Quick question: If you could repeal, not change or amend, but repeal one and only one Constitutional Amendment what would it be?
I'll start.... I would repeal the 22d Amendment.
Anyone wish to play?
I say the 16th.
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
Quote from: Solar on November 12, 2012, 11:17:25 AM
I say the 16th.
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
Bingo.
Without coercing away the wealth of others, the boondoggles of the state would be much more limited.
I say let government services be voluntary, if you sign up, you pay. If you opt out, you dont.
Simple as that.
In this way, we wont have to pay for things we dont want and political decision making will no longer be forced on to people.
The voting booth turns into the grocery store, where social programs are bought like loaves of bread.
Quote from: TowardLiberty on November 12, 2012, 11:19:45 AM
Bingo.
Without coercing away the wealth of others, the boondoggles of the state would be much more limited.
I say let government services be voluntary, if you sign up, you pay. If you opt out, you dont.
Simple as that.
In this way, we wont have to pay for things we dont want and political decision making will no longer be forced on to people.
The voting booth turns into the grocery store, where social programs are bought like loaves of bread.
Exactly!!!
Money breeds power and dissent and makes slaves of those they rob.
Looking at the Fed budget, a lion share of our money went to vote buying via social programs, all sponsored by the leftists.
Definitely the 16th. If possible the 17th. And until women figure out that the POTUS doesn't have squat to do with abortion or contraception, the 19th.
Quote from: a777pilot on November 12, 2012, 11:02:10 AM
Quick question: If you could repeal, not change or amend, but repeal one and only one Constitutional Amendment what would it be?
I'll start.... I would repeal the 22d Amendment.
Anyone wish to play?
The 22nd?
You want to have the possibility that Obama could get re-elected for a third time in 2016? :scared:
Are you stoned or stupid?!
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 13, 2012, 01:17:08 AM
The 22nd?
You want to have the possibility that Obama could get re-elected for a third time in 2016? :scared:
Are you stoned or stupid?!
I thought it was a trick question, or he was screwing with us somehow. :laugh:
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 13, 2012, 01:17:08 AM
The 22nd?
You want to have the possibility that Obama could get re-elected for a third time in 2016? :scared:
Are you stoned or stupid?!
Neither. I've been fighting for the repeal of the 22d Amendment since 1972.
I opine that if there was NOT a 22d Amendment Obama would not have been the Democrat's nominee. Think it through. Also, that Clinton would not have been the candidate either. Governor Mario Cuomo would have been.
Quote from: a777pilot on November 13, 2012, 07:39:56 AM
Neither. I've been fighting for the repeal of the 22d Amendment since 1972.
I opine that if there was NOT a 22d Amendment Obama would not have been the Democrat's nominee. Think it through. Also, that Clinton would not have been the candidate either. Governor Mario Cuomo would have been.
Question. Are you assuming a Reagan 3rd term?
And it it's only one can be repealed, it
HAS to be the 16th. No money to hand out means no base of support for the Democratic party. No source of funds means no big government. No tax law to constantly rewrite means no support from various segments of the public.
Again, if I had to choose one to repeal it would be the 22d.
As for the 16th, well, just because the Congress has the power to do something does not make it smart to use that power. I would like to see a revamp of our entire tax structure and the first thing that must be changed is WHAT is taxed. I would not, repeat, NOT tax income or profit from any source at all levels of government nor would I tax, on an annual basis, private real property.
Quote from: a777pilot on November 13, 2012, 12:22:55 PM
Again, if I had to choose one to repeal it would be the 22d.
And what would be the benefit?
It just might bring sanity back to the Presidential nominating process, to both parties.
Quote from: a777pilot on November 13, 2012, 12:38:14 PM
It just might bring sanity back to the Presidential nominating process, to both parties.
Again, how?
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2012, 12:41:47 PM
Again, how?
Good point. I see the "President for Life" situation easily arising. Had he been in good health (which includes not dying of course, can't get in worse health than that), When do you believe Roosevelt would have left office? Say he won, as Truman did in 1948; when 1952 rolled around, there would be people hitting voting age, who would never recall there having been any other President.
Quote from: mdgiles on November 13, 2012, 12:52:17 PM
Good point. I see the "President for Life" situation easily arising. Had he been in good health (which includes not dying of course, can't get in worse health than that), When do you believe Roosevelt would have left office? Say he won, as Truman did in 1948; when 1952 rolled around, there would be people hitting voting age, who would never recall there having been any other President.
Yeah, I just don't see the benefit, maybe a one term of six years might be a better approach, but open ended just doesn't make sense.
One good thing about repealing the 22nd Amendment would be the end of the "Lame Duck" presidency. As it stands now, Obama can do what he damned well pleases. He doesn't have to face the voters again in 2016 and even Boehner and the boys in Congress actually grew a spine and tried to Impeach his ass, The Senate would never remove him from office.
There ya go. That is one of the reasons I oppose the 22d Amendment.
As long as he can't run again I really don't care. I would really like to see a new ammendment for term limits.