Conservative groups demand McConnell step down as Senate GOP leader

Started by Ms.Independence, October 11, 2017, 01:13:46 PM

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Ms.Independence

Getting rid of McConnell would be like pulling the plug on the entire Senate swamp and then watching it drain!    :thumbsup:

Conservative groups demand McConnell step down as Senate GOP leader

The leaders of several conservative groups called Wednesday for Mitch McConnell to step down as Senate majority leader, arguing the Kentucky Republican and the rest of his team should be ousted from their posts because they have not implemented the conservative agenda they promised.

"We call on all five members of the GOP Senate leadership to step down, or for their caucus to remove them as soon as possible," Ken Cuccinelli, the former attorney general of Virginia who now leads the Senate Conservatives Fund, said at a Wednesday press conference on Capitol Hill.

All the leaders come from anti-Republican establishment organizations with ties to the Tea Party movement. They have long been thorns in McConnell's side and have backed conservative challengers to Republican incumbents in Senate races. They include representatives from FreedomWorks, the Tea Party Patriots and For America......

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/11/conservative-groups-demand-mcconnell-step-down-as-senate-gop-leader.html
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Sounds great on the surface, but, and yes, there is a butt, and it's a huge Butt, by the name of Jenny Beth Martin.
Tea Party Patriots President and co-founder Jenny Beth Martin. This bitch is nothing but a front for the Establishment, so anytime you see her associated with any TEA event, just know, there's money in it for her.


Unfortunately, whenever she's associated with a news story about Conservatives, she's shilling for the Establishment Marxist.
Case in point:

The leaders said they aren't backing specific lawmakers to replace McConnell and his deputies. But they offered praise to several current senators.

Of course they arent, but look how quickly two of these lying scum tossed out RINO names.

"If I had to pick someone, I'd love to draft like Pat Toomey maybe," FreedomWorks President Adam Brandon said of the Pennsylvania senator. "There's a lot of different people out there who I think could unite this caucus and actually lead on some issues."

Asked about Georgia Sen. , Jenny Beth Martin of Tea Party Patriots suggested she could support him as leader. "I'm from Georgia, so I'm not opposed to him," Martin said, praising his background as a CEO before being elected to the Senate.

"Who would I select?" said Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center. "I'm not going to name a name. But I'll tell you. It's on one hand those that I feel comfortable with who are real conservative leaders today."

Bozell was the only one not throwing out names, but assured, Lee, Cruz and a few others were on his list.
I just want to be sure everyone here isn't swayed by misleading headlines.
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Cryptic Bert

Actually voting him out of office has a bigger impact and sends a bigger message.

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Poor little Bitch McSpittle would be dead in 6 months without the role.

He has no other redeeming value, and no other reason to breathe.

topside

Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 11, 2017, 01:13:46 PM
Getting rid of McConnell would be like pulling the plug on the entire Senate swamp and then watching it drain!    :thumbsup:

Conservative groups demand McConnell step down as Senate GOP leader

The leaders of several conservative groups called Wednesday for Mitch McConnell to step down as Senate majority leader, arguing the Kentucky Republican and the rest of his team should be ousted from their posts because they have not implemented the conservative agenda they promised.

"We call on all five members of the GOP Senate leadership to step down, or for their caucus to remove them as soon as possible," Ken Cuccinelli, the former attorney general of Virginia who now leads the Senate Conservatives Fund, said at a Wednesday press conference on Capitol Hill.

All the leaders come from anti-Republican establishment organizations with ties to the Tea Party movement. They have long been thorns in McConnell's side and have backed conservative challengers to Republican incumbents in Senate races. They include representatives from FreedomWorks, the Tea Party Patriots and For America......

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/11/conservative-groups-demand-mcconnell-step-down-as-senate-gop-leader.html

Why would McConnell's removal as Senate GOP Leader help? He doesn't seem to be any worse of a RINO than any other. He's been unable to uphold the president's agenda. But I don't think anyone would have been able to make the swamp move full conservative. Why the angst against him? I don't have a reason for strong feelings either way. He might be replaced by someone who is more to the left!  :scared:

ldub23

Boehner was replaced  by Ryan so just replacing someone  is meaningless if they are basically the same.

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Quote from: ldub23 on October 12, 2017, 04:14:51 PM
Boehner was replaced  by Ryan so just replacing someone  is meaningless if they are basically the same.


There are a lot of RINO's. :popcorn:
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Ms.Independence

Quote from: topside on October 12, 2017, 09:46:55 AM
Why would McConnell's removal as Senate GOP Leader help? He doesn't seem to be any worse of a RINO than any other. He's been unable to uphold the president's agenda. But I don't think anyone would have been able to make the swamp move full conservative. Why the angst against him? I don't have a reason for strong feelings either way. He might be replaced by someone who is more to the left!  :scared:

Nothing against the 'Turtle'?  He's a RINO; his objective is to retain as many RINO incumbents as possible and to try to ensure that conservatives are blocked from entry into his country club.  I for one have a problem with that.

There is of course no guarantee that he would be replaced by anyone more conservative, but wouldn't it be great to see someone like Cruz or Lee as the Senate majority leader?
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Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 12, 2017, 06:06:03 PM
Nothing against the 'Turtle'?  He's a RINO; his objective is to retain as many RINO incumbents as possible and to try to ensure that conservatives are blocked from entry into his country club.  I for one have a problem with that.

There is of course no guarantee that he would be replaced by anyone more conservative, but wouldn't it be great to see someone like Cruz or Lee as the Senate majority leader?

He's a coward. He has less balls than a pool hall.

topside

Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 12, 2017, 06:06:03 PM
Nothing against the 'Turtle'?  He's a RINO; his objective is to retain as many RINO incumbents as possible and to try to ensure that conservatives are blocked from entry into his country club.  I for one have a problem with that.

There is of course no guarantee that he would be replaced by anyone more conservative, but wouldn't it be great to see someone like Cruz or Lee as the Senate majority leader?

It's a very good point that McConnell's dismissal would open up the possibility for Cruz to hold the position. But with all the RINO's in play, I doubt if Cruz would get the nod. Maybe if there was a push from conservative voters to put him in as the Leader? But I know of no precedent for that - seems that there isn't much constituent influence on house or senate leaders. Just look at the Dim party ... wow. Pelosi is just embarrassing. But I know my Dim friends - they will follow those pigs right off the cliff.

That is a true difference that I see between the Pubs and Dims. The Dims stay together - for better or worse.  That sounds good on the surface, but that means that many support the wrong decisions when their leadership goes the wrong way - for whatever reason. The Dims don't think for themselves - but do appear unified.

The Pubs obviously aren't unified. It means that they do think for themselves to a degree and can keep some of the crap from happening - like when big money tries to take the party the wrong way. Those not on the inside can still turn against it. But the consequence for lack of unity is that they can't get as much done. How we get things done is by staying the course on the objectives aligned with the Republic and gaining more strength in elections. That means we won't see a lot accomplished by this presidency unless we can get more of the House and Senate. That 2018 election will be critical - and telling.

I would think that communicating to the Pubs this dynamic could help gain strength for the next election. Most folks only think about the current administration - and that it isn't accomplishing much. They can't see that this is a process that takes time - undoing the Marxist BOs work will take a LONG time - especially after he blew so much of the funds that we would rather invest otherwise; but they're spent. It's so important that the economy is doing well. I would guess that as the economy goes, so goes the Republican congressional majority and presidency for the next terms. 

Ms.Independence

Quote from: topside on October 13, 2017, 05:50:18 AM
It's a very good point that McConnell's dismissal would open up the possibility for Cruz to hold the position. But with all the RINO's in play, I doubt if Cruz would get the nod. Maybe if there was a push from conservative voters to put him in as the Leader? But I know of no precedent for that - seems that there isn't much constituent influence on house or senate leaders. Just look at the Dim party ... wow. Pelosi is just embarrassing. But I know my Dim friends - they will follow those pigs right off the cliff.

That is a true difference that I see between the Pubs and Dims. The Dims stay together - for better or worse.  That sounds good on the surface, but that means that many support the wrong decisions when their leadership goes the wrong way - for whatever reason. The Dims don't think for themselves - but do appear unified.

The Pubs obviously aren't unified. It means that they do think for themselves to a degree and can keep some of the crap from happening - like when big money tries to take the party the wrong way. Those not on the inside can still turn against it. But the consequence for lack of unity is that they can't get as much done. How we get things done is by staying the course on the objectives aligned with the Republic and gaining more strength in elections. That means we won't see a lot accomplished by this presidency unless we can get more of the House and Senate. That 2018 election will be critical - and telling.

I would think that communicating to the Pubs this dynamic could help gain strength for the next election. Most folks only think about the current administration - and that it isn't accomplishing much. They can't see that this is a process that takes time - undoing the Marxist BOs work will take a LONG time - especially after he blew so much of the funds that we would rather invest otherwise; but they're spent. It's so important that the economy is doing well. I would guess that as the economy goes, so goes the Republican congressional majority and presidency for the next terms.

The GOP isn't unified because of the divide between the RINO's and the few conservatives that have managed to get past the blockade put out by McConnell and the NRSC.  That is why I was so  pleased to see that McConnell's candidate, Luther Strange wasn't nominated to fill the swamp in part due to Bannon.  Like Bannon or not; he's vowed to go up against McConnell and all incumbents except Cruz. So far, he has succeeded.

Yes there is no guarantee that McConnell's replacement will be any better, but the long-term leader of the swamp would be gone, opening up a chance for more conservative leadership.  The GOP has held the majority in the Senate for the past several election cycle and unfortunately under the poor leadership of McConnell.  They need to make him step down before 2018; otherwise we may very well lose that majority.

Also consider that right now he has FAILED to confirm nominees to the bench. There are 100 vacancies on the federal bench and 50 nominees awaiting action in the Senate and the number of federal court vacancies has risen to 149.  I don't think this is due to incompetency, but on purpose in an attempt to keep  the lower courts leaning left.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/10/mitch_mcconnell_gets_blamed_for_judicial_bottlenecking.html
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Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 13, 2017, 06:28:45 AM
The GOP isn't unified because of the divide between the RINO's and the few conservatives that have managed to get past the blockade put out by McConnell and the NRSC.  That is why I was so  pleased to see that McConnell's candidate, Luther Strange wasn't nominated to fill the swamp in part due to Bannon.  Like Bannon or not; he's vowed to go up against McConnell and all incumbents except Cruz. So far, he has succeeded.

Yes there is no guarantee that McConnell's replacement will be any better, but the long-term leader of the swamp would be gone, opening up a chance for more conservative leadership.  The GOP has held the majority in the Senate for the past several election cycle and unfortunately under the poor leadership of McConnell.  They need to make him step down before 2018; otherwise we may very well lose that majority.

Also consider that right now he has FAILED to confirm nominees to the bench. There are 100 vacancies on the federal bench and 50 nominees awaiting action in the Senate and the number of federal court vacancies has risen to 149.  I don't think this is due to incompetency, but on purpose in an attempt to keep  the lower courts leaning left.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/10/mitch_mcconnell_gets_blamed_for_judicial_bottlenecking.html

The long term effects of THAT, are the biggest problem.
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topside

Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 13, 2017, 06:28:45 AM
...  Also consider that right now he has FAILED to confirm nominees to the bench. There are 100 vacancies on the federal bench and 50 nominees awaiting action in the Senate and the number of federal court vacancies has risen to 149.  I don't think this is due to incompetency, but on purpose in an attempt to keep  the lower courts leaning left.

Certainly the lack of appointments is an obstruction to the progress of this administration. I've just figured that the Dims were dragging the confirmation process out. But you / the reference you supplied suggest that McConnell is dragging his feet too. I haven't seen enough facts to conclude that it's true, but it's certainly true that the appointments are taking way too long under his watch.

It would be good if McConnell stepped down as leader to see if another leader, even another RINO, would speed the appointments. That would be telling. We would lose a leader that isn't getting much done in exchange for another leader that would probably do no worse. 

Ms.Independence

IMHO, the possibility of forcing McConnell to step down as Senate Majority Leader is becoming more likely.  Trump's meeting with him yesterday and reported by the MSM to me is indicative of how strong this sentiment is becoming.  Trump knows that tax reform is on the line and has probably told Mitch he better start doing his job.  Many (inside and outside the beltway) are starting to become vocal as to what is going on.

...."We look at the Senate and go: 'What the hell is going on?'" White House budget director Mick Mulvaney said in an interview Friday.

"The House passed health care, the House has already passed its budget, which is the first step of tax reform. The Senate hasn't done any of that. Hell, the Senate can't pass any of our confirmations," Mulvaney fumed in an interview, slapping a table for emphasis. "You ask me if the Republican-controlled Senate is an impediment to the administration's agenda: All I can tell you is so far, the answer's yes."

The revulsion for the Senate's age-old traditions and byzantine procedure boiled over in public repeatedly on Monday. Trump complained in front of TV cameras that the Senate is "not getting the job done" and said he sees where Steve Bannon — his former chief strategist now planning to run primary challengers against incumbent Republican senators — "is coming from."

And House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), when asked Monday to name the biggest impediment to tax reform, replied: "You ever heard of the United States Senate before?"........

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/16/trump-senate-taxes-republicans-243839
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Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 17, 2017, 05:16:51 AM
IMHO, the possibility of forcing McConnell to step down as Senate Majority Leader is becoming more likely.  Trump's meeting with him yesterday and reported by the MSM to me is indicative of how strong this sentiment is becoming.  Trump knows that tax reform is on the line and has probably told Mitch he better start doing his job.  Many (inside and outside the beltway) are starting to become vocal as to what is going on.

...."We look at the Senate and go: 'What the hell is going on?'" White House budget director Mick Mulvaney said in an interview Friday.

"The House passed health care, the House has already passed its budget, which is the first step of tax reform. The Senate hasn't done any of that. Hell, the Senate can't pass any of our confirmations," Mulvaney fumed in an interview, slapping a table for emphasis. "You ask me if the Republican-controlled Senate is an impediment to the administration's agenda: All I can tell you is so far, the answer's yes."

The revulsion for the Senate's age-old traditions and byzantine procedure boiled over in public repeatedly on Monday. Trump complained in front of TV cameras that the Senate is "not getting the job done" and said he sees where Steve Bannon — his former chief strategist now planning to run primary challengers against incumbent Republican senators — "is coming from."

And House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), when asked Monday to name the biggest impediment to tax reform, replied: "You ever heard of the United States Senate before?"........

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/16/trump-senate-taxes-republicans-243839
I don't believe it's about forcing change, rather Trump asserting pressure on the Bitch, means he knows he has Mitch the Bitch in Check and asserting his dominance over him.
Never interfere when your enemy is screwing up, just make certain they know, that you know, they're on the ropes.

It was just recently that leftist media was trying to peg all this on Trump, thing is, Trump needs Bills to sign.
Like this silly shit from the La Times.

Last time I checked, Trump doesn't write laws, that's Congress job. But this is the narrative the left has been running on, and completely ignoring McConnel's failure on the job.

Now Trump has made lawmakers' jobs even harder by punting to Congress some of the most serious policy questions of his administration — on healthcare, immigration and foreign policy with Iran — with potentially dire political and practical outcomes if lawmakers do not act.
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