It doesn't get much clearer than this. Sessions is part of the swamp; he appoints a Deputy AG (Rosenstein) who worked for both Clinton and Bammy and is part of Uranium One, who in turn appoints Mueller who worked with him during Uranium One who also is responsible for the indictment of Manafort who worked for Trump and now Sessions is recusing himself from Uranium One! So basically, unless Trump fires Sessions the investigation into Uranium One goes nowhere ... oh ... that's right, basically Sessions stated that his Deputy AG could investigate himself. Trump needs to make a phone call from Asia and fire him and Rosenstein and Mueller. If he doesn't then in my opinion Trump is insulating Clinton as well ... and we would then have the rest of the story ...Trump was nothing more than a siphon for the DEMS. (Ok ... I'm already deflecting the daggers on this one).
Congressman Says Jeff Sessions Has Recused Himself on Uranium One Deal
............Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) told Breitbart News on Wednesday that he and other House Judiciary Committee Republicans had met with Sessions at the Justice Department on September 28 in advance of an upcoming committee hearing with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein later this month.
Gaetz said that when he asked Sessions to appoint a special counsel to investigate the 2010 Uranium One deal and Fusion GPS, the attorney general stood up, said he could not discuss the matter because he had recused himself, and walked out of the room, leaving them with a group of Rosenstein staffers "who showed no interest."
"He said that anything that had to do with 2016 election, or Russia, or the candidates in the 2016 election, fell under the scope of his recusal, and he left the room," Gaetz said.
"It was Sessions' position that his recusal on the Russia matter divorced him from any oversight on Uranium One and Fusion GPS. That's troubling. Sessions' recusal is a function of his involvement in the Trump campaign. In no world does that impact his judgment as it relates to Fusion GPS and Uranium One. But he views the recusal more broadly. That's troubling because that puts Rosenstein in charge," he said..............
..........Other House members present at the meeting were Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) and Reps. Jim Jordan (R-OH), Ron DeSantis (R-FL), and Louis Gohmert (R-TX).............
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/02/rep-matt-gaetz-says-jeff-sessions-recused-uranium-one-deal/
Hannity tonight just reported that the Justice Dept. said he hasn't Recused Himself on Uranium One! He is free to appoint his own special counsel. Their probably searching for the right one right now! I will bet it's taken this long to get the Ethics office for the justice dept. to review it and give Sessions their go ahead!
Quote from: redbeard on November 03, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Hannity tonight just reported that the Justice Dept. said he hasn't Recused Himself on Uranium One! He is free to appoint his own special counsel. Their probably searching for the right one right now! I will bet it's taken this long to get the Ethics office for the justice dept. to review it and give Sessions their go ahead!
Redbeard, I sure hope your right. This would make one fantastic Christmas present.
Quote from: redbeard on November 03, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Hannity tonight just reported that the Justice Dept. said he hasn't Recused Himself on Uranium One! He is free to appoint his own special counsel. Their probably searching for the right one right now! I will bet it's taken this long to get the Ethics office for the justice dept. to review it and give Sessions their go ahead!
If JEFFIE appoints a special counsel expext the first report around 2050? He is a SWAMP member and is their to protect the SWAMP and if does anything to PYA himself it will never get done in our lifetime. He has to go but someone is telling TRUMP to keep him and most know who the suspects are blowing in TRUMP ear.
I'm thinking SPECIAL PROSECUTOR from what it sounds.....Sessions has too much on his plate.
Quote from: redbeard on November 03, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Hannity tonight just reported that the Justice Dept. said he hasn't Recused Himself on Uranium One! He is free to appoint his own special counsel. Their probably searching for the right one right now! I will bet it's taken this long to get the Ethics office for the justice dept. to review it and give Sessions their go ahead!
:lol: :lol: Appoint his own 'special counsel'! What a joke. Remember Session's appointment of Rosenstein? Yeppers, how's that working out? NOT!!
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 04, 2017, 06:18:08 AM
:lol: :lol: Appoint his own 'special counsel'! What a joke. Remember Session's appointment of Rosenstein? Yeppers, how's that working out? NOT!!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :smile: :smile:
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 04, 2017, 05:50:39 AM
I'm thinking SPECIAL PROSECUTOR from what it sounds.....Sessions has too much on his plate.
That's the real term, but Congress changed it, to a more, "Touchy Feely" term of "Special Counsel".
I think it was to soften the 'blow' for Clinton's Impeachment. (pun intended)
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 04, 2017, 06:18:08 AM
:lol: :lol: Appoint his own 'special counsel'! What a joke. Remember Session's appointment of Rosenstein? Yeppers, how's that working out? NOT!!
Rothstein/Mueller are not 'prosecutors' they are trying to desperately find "probable cause" that a crime was committed, any crime by anyone. More of a 'public investigation' than anything else. IE ALL SHOW
A special prosecutor is designated when there is ample evidence, abundant probable cause that a crime has been committed and the case is very complicated. These are the types of prosecutors that handle "mob" type indictments and organized crime prosecutions.....Rudy Guliani was one such "Special Prosecutor". For the AG to handle such COMPLICATED prosecutions would be impractical and unwise politically.
Problem is who in the Justice dept with all Obama leftist plants do you trust to handle such case? Who is above reproach? It might be wiser to bring someone in from the outside....but WHO?
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 04, 2017, 11:06:38 AM
Rothstein/Mueller are not 'prosecutors' they are trying to desperately find "probable cause" that a crime was committed, any crime by anyone. More of a 'public investigation' than anything else. IE ALL SHOW
A special prosecutor is designated when there is ample evidence, abundant probable cause that a crime has been committed and the case is very complicated. These are the types of prosecutors that handle "mob" type indictments and organized crime prosecutions.....Rudy Guliani was one such "Special Prosecutor". For the AG to handle such COMPLICATED prosecutions would be impractical and unwise politically.
Problem is who in the Justice dept with all Obama leftist plants do you trust to handle such case? Who is above reproach? It might be wiser to bring someone in from the outside....but WHO?
You rang?
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Quote from: taxed on November 04, 2017, 11:59:28 AM
You rang?
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Never been a fan of the RINO, but this is one of those positions I'd actually trust him in, upholding the Constitution.
Quote from: Solar on November 04, 2017, 01:08:29 PM
Never been a fan of the RINO, but this is one of those positions I'd actually trust him in, upholding the Constitution.
He should be given credit for his tough position on law and order.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 05, 2017, 03:50:30 AM
He should be given credit for his tough position on law and order.
Cleaned up NY, that alone means something.
Quote from: Solar on November 05, 2017, 04:05:31 AM
Cleaned up NY, that alone means something.
That, he did and De Blassio is undoing it all.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 05, 2017, 05:26:55 PM
That, he did and De Blassio is undoing it all.
Same thing will happen when a DEM gets back in power as POTUS!
Quote from: Solar on November 04, 2017, 01:08:29 PM
Never been a fan of the RINO, but this is one of those positions I'd actually trust him in, upholding the Constitution.
...and to not sweep Clinton crimes under the rug...
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 04, 2017, 06:18:08 AM
:lol: :lol: Appoint his own 'special counsel'! What a joke. Remember Session's appointment of Rosenstein? Yeppers, how's that working out? NOT!!
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The comments about Sessions are spot on, which begs a larger
issue; specifically, Trump's total inability to judge character.
His appalling appointments are mute testament to that reality.
This cannot continue as the collapse of his presidency is simply a matter of time.
Quote from: Walter Josh on November 15, 2017, 10:44:04 AM
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The comments about Sessions are spot on, which begs a larger
issue; specifically, Trump's total inability to judge character.
His appalling appointments are mute testament to that reality.
This cannot continue as the collapse of his presidency is simply a matter of time.
Are you on the distribution list for daily democrat talking points?
Quote from: Walter Josh on November 15, 2017, 10:44:04 AM
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The comments about Sessions are spot on, which begs a larger
issue; specifically, Trump's total inability to judge character.
His appalling appointments are mute testament to that reality.
This cannot continue as the collapse of his presidency is simply a matter of time.
:rolleyes:
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 15, 2017, 11:33:59 AM
Are you on the distribution list for daily democrat talking points?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 15, 2017, 11:33:59 AM
Are you on the distribution list for daily democrat talking points?
I think nzone is on that list also.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 15, 2017, 11:33:59 AM
Are you on the distribution list for daily democrat talking points?
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Uninterested in getting into a urinary contest over Trump, who I voted for and still support.
His choices include the likes of Preibus, Spicer, Price, Scaramouche, Tillerson, Sessions; among other mistakes.
Session's cowardice in recusing himself from the Russian fandango has allowed the msm and Democrats to erode Trump's support, effectively transferring DoJ power to the Mueller-Rosenstein tag team.
Additionally, Sessions has done absolutely nothing to remove the Obama squatters who infest Justice.
So much for Sessions competence and Trump's judgement.
I'd like to know what this "collapse of Trump's presidency" entails.
Anarchy ? Dissolution of the govt. ? It's just a stupid phrase that leftists keep repeating and mouth breathing.
I actually agree about Sessions, he sucks. But Trump had no way of knowing that the guy would be bribed or blackmailed, or was simply being a trojan horse for his 40-year buddies. Though he should be shitcanning him already. You have to adapt and respond when you make a mistake. Trump's been way too slow with Sessions, Mueller, Rosenstein, McCabe. Shoulda canned them all with Comey.
My guess is that one of the moles in Trump's inner circle is telling him it's wrong or bad optics, in order to help these bastards hang on and screw him. I just don't understand Trump's hesitation to blast people that are obviously screwing him every which way, and he damn well knows it. That's just annoying.
Unless he's got a much more dedicated strategy than anybody knows, except for those involved in it. And I hope like hell THAT's true.
Quote from: walkstall on November 15, 2017, 12:11:08 PM
I think nzone is on that list also.
don't THINK no one wants to see U have the big one. Stay calm and continue to be , well maybe you will get the point if you think about it??
Quote from: nzone on November 15, 2017, 03:17:48 PM
don't THINK no one wants to see U have the big one. Stay calm and continue to be , well maybe you will get the point if you think about it??
Hell at my age I have no problems staying calm. :lol: But the sky keeps falling most of your posts. Trump has not even put in one full year and people are looking for miracles from him. He does not control congress as much as people would like to think he can. Trump is only one small part of the law making. He can sign it into law or veto it. He can also make EO that can be changed just like b o's are being changed. I don't like some of his people also, but I will give him time as he may know something we don't. Just the short time Trump been in he has done more for the U.S. then the last 8 years of b o.
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 15, 2017, 02:45:02 PM
I'd like to know what this "collapse of Trump's presidency" entails.
Anarchy ? Dissolution of the govt. ? It's just a stupid phrase that leftists keep repeating and mouth breathing.
I actually agree about Sessions, he sucks. But Trump had no way of knowing that the guy would be bribed or blackmailed, or was simply being a trojan horse for his 40-year buddies. Though he should be shitcanning him already. You have to adapt and respond when you make a mistake. Trump's been way too slow with Sessions, Mueller, Rosenstein, McCabe. Shoulda canned them all with Comey.
My guess is that one of the moles in Trump's inner circle is telling him it's wrong or bad optics, in order to help these bastards hang on and screw him. I just don't understand Trump's hesitation to blast people that are obviously screwing him every which way, and he damn well knows it. That's just annoying.
Unless he's got a much more dedicated strategy than anybody knows, except for those involved in it. And I hope like hell THAT's true.
Agree. That's the thing Andy, we don't know what kind of deals Trump was forced into keeping these leftists. I have heard many RINO threaten Trump if he cans a bunch of them, so it's safe to say he had to make allotments for other things on his agenda.
I think time is on Trump's side in this, after 2018 midterms, there will be one Hell of a lot less RINO to butt heads with, might even get to the point McCon is forced to step aside after the smoke clears.
Quote from: Solar on November 15, 2017, 04:08:42 PM
Agree. That's the thing Andy, we don't know what kind of deals Trump was forced into keeping these leftists. I have heard many RINO threaten Trump if he cans a bunch of them, so it's safe to say he had to make allotments for other things on his agenda.
I think time is on Trump's side in this, after 2018 midterms, there will be one Hell of a lot less RINO to butt heads with, might even get to the point McCon is forced to step aside after the smoke clears.
You know the younger generations is asking for
everything right now. No one that have worked for a living is going to there boss and say I want change right now. :lol: They would get change right now, their ass out the door. :lol: If you don't like your job get the hell out of the kitchen.
He must be doing something right with all the Dem's and RINO's trying to impeach him every week. It scares the hell out of the Dem's and RINO's :lol:
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 15, 2017, 02:45:02 PM
I'd like to know what this "collapse of Trump's presidency" entails.
Anarchy ? Dissolution of the govt. ? It's just a stupid phrase that leftists keep repeating and mouth breathing.
I actually agree about Sessions, he sucks. But Trump had no way of knowing that the guy would be bribed or blackmailed, or was simply being a trojan horse for his 40-year buddies. Though he should be shitcanning him already. You have to adapt and respond when you make a mistake. Trump's been way too slow with Sessions, Mueller, Rosenstein, McCabe. Shoulda canned them all with Comey.
My guess is that one of the moles in Trump's inner circle is telling him it's wrong or bad optics, in order to help these bastards hang on and screw him. I just don't understand Trump's hesitation to blast people that are obviously screwing him every which way, and he damn well knows it. That's just annoying.
Unless he's got a much more dedicated strategy than anybody knows, except for those involved in it. And I hope like hell THAT's true.
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A year ago, Trump won w/about half the popular vote and 60% of the EC.
Today his voter approval ranking is below 40%.
Not only do the D's loathe him but so does the GOP Establishment.
And this is a scenario for his success in 2020 ?????
On the positive side, Trump's successor, if it ever comes to that, is neither Biden,
Pelosi, Warren, Sanders; nor any other Democrat schmuck; it's Michael Pence!!!
Quote from: Walter Josh on November 15, 2017, 06:24:07 PM
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A year ago, Trump won w/about half the popular vote and 60% of the EC.
Today his voter approval ranking is below 40%.
Not only do the D's loathe him but so does the GOP Establishment.
And this is a scenario for his success in 2020 ?????
On the positive side, Trump's successor, if it ever comes to that, is neither Biden,
Pelosi, Warren, Sanders; nor any other Democrat schmuck; it's Michael Pence!!!
So tell me, who would sponsor these polls, Establishment whores, Dims? Certainly, Trump doesn't care, nor do his supporters, so why waste your money in an off election year doing polling that doesn't mean shit?
Oh, I know, for the gullible and those that hate him as a way to sell papers and ad space for leftist driven companies, that's who.
Seriously, post one of those polls, and let us dissect the metrics, shall we?
Quote from: Walter Josh on November 15, 2017, 02:18:04 PM
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Uninterested in getting into a urinary contest over Trump, who I voted for and still support.
His choices include the likes of Preibus, Spicer, Price, Scaramouche, Tillerson, Sessions; among other mistakes.
Session's cowardice in recusing himself from the Russian fandango has allowed the msm and Democrats to erode Trump's support, effectively transferring DoJ power to the Mueller-Rosenstein tag team.
Additionally, Sessions has done absolutely nothing to remove the Obama squatters who infest Justice.
So much for Sessions competence and Trump's judgement.
There is no question Trump has made mistakes on some appointments. That is not unusual for any new administration. Like many, I too am disappointed with Sessions. Looking back, his credentials were good. I think the verdict is till out on whether the DOJ was so corrupted by Obama it needs to be blown up or Sessions is a RINO. I am still on the side that the DOJ is just a disaster after Holder, Lynch and Obama.
Quote from: walkstall on November 15, 2017, 03:40:39 PM
Hell at my age I have no problems staying calm. :lol: But the sky keeps falling most of your posts. Trump has not even put in one full year and people are looking for miracles from him. He does not control congress as much as people would like to think he can. Trump is only one small part of the law making. He can sign it into law or veto it. He can also make EO that can be changed just like b o's are being changed. I don't like some of his people also, but I will give him time as he may know something we don't. Just the short time Trump been in he has done more for the U.S. then the last 8 years of b o.
Cannot help how u interpret things. Maybe a age gap? But when I see people like Jeffie staying in power and doing nothing but protecting the Swamp after hearing four a year from Trump he is going to drain the Swamp you might call it negative but that is real world and he lets it continue. Maybe and I hope so Trump is waiting for Moore election is over and will do something about Jeffie. His appointments are mostly all leftover Bush or Obama Swamp Criters. Jill Vogel his new DHS appointment and BUSHIE who wants open borders as long as they don't live next to her. DeVos another BUSHIE leftover believes in common core which has proven to fail like Michelle Obama lunch program did. The kids refused to eat. Then Trump complains about not getting any support and blames Fake News that he refuses to do anything about. You would think and maybe u might even agree that any leader would surround themselves with people who might have the same goals and objectives as the leader does? Do not need a Harvard MBA to figure that out. Call that negative that is you choice but that is Real World IMO. I support and like Trump Voted and contributed to his campaign but I will never blindly follow him like as sheep as some people do. He is the worst POTUS thus far in judging and picking personnel and hopefully he changes which I doubt. JARVANKA, well that is another subject and he sure is working out well and I do mean to be negative on that subject. Good day :lol:
Quote from: nzone on November 16, 2017, 05:52:22 AM
Cannot help how u interpret things. Maybe a age gap? But when I see people like Jeffie staying in power and doing nothing but protecting the Swamp after hearing four a year from Trump he is going to drain the Swamp you might call it negative but that is real world and he lets it continue. Maybe and I hope so Trump is waiting for Moore election is over and will do something about Jeffie. His appointments are mostly all leftover Bush or Obama Swamp Criters. Jill Vogel his new DHS appointment and BUSHIE who wants open borders as long as they don't live next to her. DeVos another BUSHIE leftover believes in common core which has proven to fail like Michelle Obama lunch program did. The kids refused to eat. Then Trump complains about not getting any support and blames Fake News that he refuses to do anything about. You would think and maybe u might even agree that any leader would surround themselves with people who might have the same goals and objectives as the leader does? Do not need a Harvard MBA to figure that out. Call that negative that is you choice but that is Real World IMO. I support and like Trump Voted and contributed to his campaign but I will never blindly follow him like as sheep as some people do. He is the worst POTUS thus far in judging and picking personnel and hopefully he changes which I doubt. JARVANKA, well that is another subject and he sure is working out well and I do mean to be negative on that subject. Good day :lol:
OK, quit acting like a mouth breather, Trump just turned the corner on 6 months in office, and like an impatient Millennial, you want everything yesterday, regardless of the fact that 70% of Congress is leftist, with the inclusion of both party's.
So let's look at what you obviously have yet to either grasp, or simply ignore.
Trump was nominated by the RNC because they sooo feared Cruz, a Conservative, since it was blatantly obvious the nation not only rejected leftists of every stripe, there was no way in Hell we would ever vote for one of their establishment hacks, so, as a last minute move, they conceded to accept a Trump ticket, with the thought they could control him.
Are ya following me so far? Trump was their last option for the WH, so they liter4ally screwed Cruz through a series of new rules and old rule changes, giving them Trump.
Fast forward a few months, when Trump tweets his lack of confidence in Sessions.
Remember that? When Trump was trying to replace Sessions? Of course you don't, you apparently either have the attention span of a gnat, or the memory of a flea.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/344106-gop-senator-holy-hell-to-pay-if-trump-fires-sessions
GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham (S.C.) is warning President Trump that any move to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions will spark backlash from lawmakers."If Jeff Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay," Graham told reporters on Thursday morning.
Graham added that Trump's public criticism of Sessions is an effort to "marginalize" and "humiliate" the attorney general. The president's actions aren't "going over well" with his former colleagues, according to the senior Republican senator.
Graham also warned Trump against firing special counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating any potential connections between the Trump campaign and Russia. Graham warned it "could be the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency."
Trump has stepped up his public criticism of Sessions, a former GOP senator and his first public supporter in the Senate. He has also warned that Mueller has multiple conflicts of interest that threaten his investigation.
In Trump's latest tweets venting his frustration on Wednesday morning, he questioned why Sessions didn't fire acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe — who has been a target of Trump's dating back to his presidential campaign.
Trump is reportedly considering trying to replace Sessions using a recess appointment, according to The Washington Post.
Democrats have pledged to block any move by requiring the Senate to have pro-forma sessions throughout the August recess.
Quote from: nzone on November 16, 2017, 05:52:22 AM
Cannot help how u interpret things. Maybe a age gap? But when I see people like Jeffie staying in power and doing nothing but protecting the Swamp after hearing four a year from Trump he is going to drain the Swamp you might call it negative but that is real world and he lets it continue. Maybe and I hope so Trump is waiting for Moore election is over and will do something about Jeffie. His appointments are mostly all leftover Bush or Obama Swamp Criters. Jill Vogel his new DHS appointment and BUSHIE who wants open borders as long as they don't live next to her. DeVos another BUSHIE leftover believes in common core which has proven to fail like Michelle Obama lunch program did. The kids refused to eat. Then Trump complains about not getting any support and blames Fake News that he refuses to do anything about. You would think and maybe u might even agree that any leader would surround themselves with people who might have the same goals and objectives as the leader does? Do not need a Harvard MBA to figure that out. Call that negative that is you choice but that is Real World IMO. I support and like Trump Voted and contributed to his campaign but I will never blindly follow him like as sheep as some people do. He is the worst POTUS thus far in judging and picking personnel and hopefully he changes which I doubt. JARVANKA, well that is another subject and he sure is working out well and I do mean to be negative on that subject. Good day :lol:
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Maybe a age gap?
Where in the hell have you been for the last 80 + years. Congress controls us, we do not control Congress. Dem's run in both the Dem party and the Republican party. If you can not make it as a Dem, run as a Republican.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 16, 2017, 04:46:15 AM
There is no question Trump has made mistakes on some appointments. That is not unusual for any new administration. Like many, I too am disappointed with Sessions. Looking back, his credentials were good. I think the verdict is till out on whether the DOJ was so corrupted by Obama it needs to be blown up or Sessions is a RINO. I am still on the side that the DOJ is just a disaster after Holder, Lynch and Obama.
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Fair enough.
Over time great leadership rises to the occasion and seizes the moment;
otherwise nations decline and fade away; among them the Spanish Empire.
In my opinion, we are at a decisive point and such leadership
does not exist in our nation, as the daily DC fandango attests.
That's why I'm raising the character/competence issue as a matter
of critical importance and certainly not to provoke an argument.