Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread

Started by Solar, October 19, 2017, 08:15:33 AM

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Ms.Independence

Quote from: Solar on October 22, 2017, 06:28:22 AM
I get that, I thought he campaigned like a true lib, no class whatsoever, but that was a campaign, and what he did was standard  for a leftist Hell bent on winning, but he didn't campaign on typical leftist issues, so most of us tossed it all aside because Trump's win only came with the help of the Marxist RINO, so we've moved on from the low life campaign tactics that were used while never forgiving the gop'E for screwing a Conservative.

With that said, what followed the campaign was a series of moves and manipulations by the party, Trump being new to the game needed allies fast and unfortunately, many of them were Dims because he knew the gop'E couldn't be trusted, but also knew he had to work with the tools he had at his disposal.

The gop'E already had designs on his agenda and were going to make it their own at any price.
You want to blame all this on Trump yet want to ignore the machinations by a leftist gop'E. I'm not saying what you're seeing is wrong, what I'm saying is you are ignoring the obvious elephant in the room holding half the party hostage as the leftist half goes about manipulating the actions of a POTUS with his hands tied, yet you're demanding he makes moves to placate your needs on your timescale?

All I'm trying to get across to you, is that Trump is playing a serious game of chess and maneuvering as best as possible, knowing the gop'e time is running out with the Midterms approaching.
If Trump moves too soon, the leftist run the board, if he bides his time and runs out the clock, the next move the RINO make will be irrelevant because the midterms will be the big game changer, the fruit produced by the two previous midterm elections.

We've spent nearly a decade getting this far and Trump knows it, and he also knows just how precariously perched the gop'E is up against the precipice, as does the gop'E, they are trying to force Trump's hand, yet all you can focus on is what they want you to see.

Am I getting through here? You are falling for the leftist narrative the media is producing under the direction of the Establishment.
Yes, the LSM is helping the gop'E because they share the same financial backers, the same ones they helped the DNC till it collapsed.
There is far more in play than you're recognizing, you're focusing on exactly what they want you to see.

My entire point is patience, let the clock play out, it's still his first year and we still have an election to get through where we kill off the power of a RINO majority.
If after that, he still acts like a powerless fool, then there's nothing we can do to help him, but I think the exact opposite is going to happen because the Conservative majority will more than likely control the purse strings over Congress.
The Establishment will have lost, the left will  have lost and Trump will no longer be beholden to their wishes.

??? I have not blamed anything on Trump...he needs to ensure that Sessions does his job. He's the one that hired Rosenstein. Sessions could easily allow this to fall by the wayside and Trump could very well allow that. We don't know for certain yet what's going to happen.  Only one right now that seems to be bent on holding him responsible is Grassley. I'm not falling for any leftist narrative; I'm calling them as I see them.  I certainly called Rosenstien/Mueller corruption a long time ago. You think Trump should wait, I beg to differ. We have an opportunity knockin' on the door right now to get rid of the  RINO's and hang the DEMS by bringing all the corruption to light and holding people responsible on both sides of the aisle.  Making the corruption of the establishment crystal clear opens up seats that can be filled by conservatives in 2018. All seats are up in the House in 2018, 8 GOP seats are up in the Senate and 25 DEM seats are up.  Meanwhile Bannon has already made some headway ensuring that Luther Strange won't be running. Why wait? Why give the establishment another chance to fill those seats with incumbents in 2018?  IF Trump accomplishes hanging Clinton and Obama can you imagine how energized the conservative base will be??  He sits on his hands and waits, IMHO he's lost a golden opportunity to shift the scales in the Senate and House way to the right by 2018.  In doing so we'll get our wall, we'll get more conservative justices, we'll get full repeal of Obamacare, we'll get tax reform, the economy will take off and if he so chooses to run for re-election in 2020, his chances for re-election will have skyrocketed.  The DEMS will have lost huge with no chance of recovery for quite some time.

The ball is in Sessions hands right now.  Trump needs to remind him he either does his job right or he'll be out of one.  If he doesn't then we'll know exactly where he stands.
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House also probing Obama-era Uranium One deal, DeSantis says

The House Oversight Committee has started its investigation into an Obama-era deal in which a Russian-backed company bought a uranium firm with mines in the U.S., Rep. Ron DeSantis told Fox News on Sunday, adding that he's spoken with the federal government's "confidential informant" on the matter.

The uranium agreement was reached while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, and some investors in the Russian-backed company, Uranium One, had relationships with former President Bill Clinton and donated to the Clinton Foundation.

"I've spoken with the confidential informant that helped the FBI uncover this bribery scheme," DeSantis, R-Fla., a member of the oversight committee, told "America's News Headquarters." "Clearly, it's in the public's interest that this individual be able to tell his story to Congress.".....

......DeSantis said Sunday the informant to whom he spoke signed his original non-disclosure deal with Obama administration Attorney General Eric Holder and was "threatened with reprisal" by the Justice Department under Attorney General Loretta Lynch when he tried to "come forward" in 2016.

DeSantis also said he has spoken with the informant's attorney, but it's unclear whether the informant is the same one to whom Grassley has referred.

The House Oversight Committee doesn't appear to have announced officially that it has opened a probe or more formal investigation. Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., could not be reached Sunday for comment.

President Trump said last week that media outlets have failed to cover the purchase of American uranium mines by the Russian-backed company adequately, as most recently reported by The Hill.

The Senate committee launched its probe after the series of Hill stories, which showed the FBI had evidence that Russian nuclear officials were involved in fraudulent dealings in 2009 before the uranium deal was approved.....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/22/house-also-probing-obama-era-uranium-one-deal-desantis-says.html
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Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 22, 2017, 12:18:59 PM
??? I have not blamed anything on Trump...he needs to ensure that Sessions does his job. He's the one that hired Rosenstein. Sessions could easily allow this to fall by the wayside and Trump could very well allow that. We don't know for certain yet what's going to happen.  Only one right now that seems to be bent on holding him responsible is Grassley. I'm not falling for any leftist narrative; I'm calling them as I see them.  I certainly called Rosenstien/Mueller corruption a long time ago. You think Trump should wait, I beg to differ. We have an opportunity knockin' on the door right now to get rid of the  RINO's and hang the DEMS by bringing all the corruption to light and holding people responsible on both sides of the aisle.  Making the corruption of the establishment crystal clear opens up seats that can be filled by conservatives in 2018. All seats are up in the House in 2018, 8 GOP seats are up in the Senate and 25 DEM seats are up.  Meanwhile Bannon has already made some headway ensuring that Luther Strange won't be running. Why wait? Why give the establishment another chance to fill those seats with incumbents in 2018?  IF Trump accomplishes hanging Clinton and Obama can you imagine how energized the conservative base will be??  He sits on his hands and waits, IMHO he's lost a golden opportunity to shift the scales in the Senate and House way to the right by 2018.  In doing so we'll get our wall, we'll get more conservative justices, we'll get full repeal of Obamacare, we'll get tax reform, the economy will take off and if he so chooses to run for re-election in 2020, his chances for re-election will have skyrocketed.  The DEMS will have lost huge with no chance of recovery for quite some time.

The ball is in Sessions hands right now.  Trump needs to remind him he either does his job right or he'll be out of one.  If he doesn't then we'll know exactly where he stands.
Herein lies the issue, we don't have all the answers, we don't know what Trump is dealing with where the corrupt GOP is concerned.
All you have is speculation, accusations, which does nothing but raise further suspicion on Trump, when in fact, so far he is trying to get his agenda through and the GOP blocks his every move.

You claim you have not blamed Trump for anything, yet nearly every post is full of accusations that Trump may be somehow involved in collusion or some other form of deception, and no, it's not a matter of semantics.
The guy hasn't even had a year in office and you want everything NOW, and that's just not going to happen, even Reagan had to maneuver a hostile Congress, yet he was able to accomplish his agenda in spite of the opposition.

Trump has undone more leftist agenda than Reagan did by this time in office, and look what Reagan accomplished in his first term.
Gears of govt move slowly, and when you have two party's working against you, they nearly grind to a halt.
With that in mind, Trump has so far been very successful, so I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I didn't even support the guy, but I recognize what he's up against.
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Quote from: Solar on October 22, 2017, 02:39:49 PM
Herein lies the issue, we don't have all the answers, we don't know what Trump is dealing with where the corrupt GOP is concerned.
All you have is speculation, accusations, which does nothing but raise further suspicion on Trump, when in fact, so far he is trying to get his agenda through and the GOP blocks his every move.

You claim you have not blamed Trump for anything, yet nearly every post is full of accusations that Trump may be somehow involved in collusion or some other form of deception, and no, it's not a matter of semantics.
The guy hasn't even had a year in office and you want everything NOW, and that's just not going to happen, even Reagan had to maneuver a hostile Congress, yet he was able to accomplish his agenda in spite of the opposition.

Trump has undone more leftist agenda than Reagan did by this time in office, and look what Reagan accomplished in his first term.
Gears of govt move slowly, and when you have two party's working against you, they nearly grind to a halt.
With that in mind, Trump has so far been very successful, so I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I didn't even support the guy, but I recognize what he's up against.

Our opinions differ. I sincerely hope that Trump is successful. Right now, the MSM has been absolutely silent on all of this which is not surprising but troubling nonetheless.  So ... obviously we wait ... and we see what happens.
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Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 22, 2017, 04:03:37 PM
Our opinions differ. I sincerely hope that Trump is successful.
He has been so far...

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Right now, the MSM has been absolutely silent on all of this which is not surprising but troubling nonetheless.  So ... obviously we wait ... and we see what happens.
In what universe would they not be silent about it?  These schemes that Podesta, the Obamas, and the Clintons were cooking up had big paydays.  Don't think any high ups in the MSM weren't going to get a taste of that.

The pressure has been coming up from the grass roots and down from the continuous elimination of green subsidies and schemes like the Iran deal, which I have no doubt plays a role in the Uranium One/Russia scam.  Russia has been working close with Iran last time I checked....  No wonder Bob Corker has been losing his mind.
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Quote from: Solar on October 23, 2017, 07:36:33 AM
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The left can no longer hide. :thumbup:

Meanwhile; Hilary is claiming that the Uranium One issue has been debunked!  So she's doing what she's been doing for decades; lie and deny and eventually it all goes away!  Poof!

http://dailycallernewsfoundation.org/2017/10/23/hillary-calls-uranium-one-stories-debunked/
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Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 23, 2017, 11:24:58 AM


Meanwhile; Hilary is claiming that the Uranium One issue has been debunked!  So she's doing what she's been doing for decades; lie and deny and eventually it all goes away!  Poof!

http://dailycallernewsfoundation.org/2017/10/23/hillary-calls-uranium-one-stories-debunked/
Yeah, keep denying Hitlary...

"John Barrasso, a Senator from Wyoming where Uranium One had its largest operation, wrote President Barack Obama, saying it "would give the Russian government control over a sizable portion of America's uranium production capacity." During this time, a Russian bank that would assign a "buy rating to Uranium one stock" paid Mr. Clinton $500,000 dollars to speak in Moscow.

The decision had to go through the Committee, which included Secretary Clinton. At the time, her husband, in addition to the speaking arrangements, was "collecting millions in donations from people associated with Uranium One." The Committee approved the deal in October of 2010.

The only reported Uranium Official to give to the Foundation was the chairman, Ian Tefler, who gave in 2007 less than $250,000. Mr. Tefler's family charity the Fenwood Foundation, however, donated millions of dollars from 2009 to 2013, reports the New York Times.

The Committee approved sale of the Canadian mining stakes provided the Russians with direct control of "one-fifth of all uranium production" in the United States, reports the New York Times. While the Russians were taking control of Uranium One between 2009 and 2013, Canadian records highlight a "flow of cash made its way" into the pockets of the Clinton Foundation."[/i]
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Quote from: Solar on October 23, 2017, 11:45:57 AM
Yeah, keep denying Hitlary...

"John Barrasso, a Senator from Wyoming where Uranium One had its largest operation, wrote President Barack Obama, saying it "would give the Russian government control over a sizable portion of America's uranium production capacity." During this time, a Russian bank that would assign a "buy rating to Uranium one stock" paid Mr. Clinton $500,000 dollars to speak in Moscow.

The decision had to go through the Committee, which included Secretary Clinton. At the time, her husband, in addition to the speaking arrangements, was "collecting millions in donations from people associated with Uranium One." The Committee approved the deal in October of 2010.

The only reported Uranium Official to give to the Foundation was the chairman, Ian Tefler, who gave in 2007 less than $250,000. Mr. Tefler's family charity the Fenwood Foundation, however, donated millions of dollars from 2009 to 2013, reports the New York Times.

The Committee approved sale of the Canadian mining stakes provided the Russians with direct control of "one-fifth of all uranium production" in the United States, reports the New York Times. While the Russians were taking control of Uranium One between 2009 and 2013, Canadian records highlight a "flow of cash made its way" into the pockets of the Clinton Foundation."[/i]

Yep ... that sums it up quite nicely.  Now ... we wait to see IF the Clintons and all involved will be held accountable and responsible.
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Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 23, 2017, 05:21:36 PM
Yep ... that sums it up quite nicely.  Now ... we wait to see IF the Clintons and all involved will be held accountable and responsible.
I hate to say it, but nothing will happen till after the midterms when we can finally put pressure on the leftist RINO.
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Gowdy and Goodlatte are launching a probe into FBI's handling of Clinton...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-24/house-officially-launches-probe-comeys-handling-clinton-email-investigation

QuoteAfter months of inexplicable delays, the chairman of the House Judiciary and Oversight committees,  Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) and Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), announced moments ago a joint investigation into how the Justice Department handled last year's investigation into Hillary Clinton's private email server.

Among other things, Goodlatte and Gowdy said that the FBI must answer for why it chose to provide public updates in the Clinton investigation but not in the Trump investigation and why the FBI decided to "appropriate full decision making in respect to charging or not charging Secretary Clinton," a power typically left to the DOJ.

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Quote from: taxed on October 24, 2017, 10:27:41 AM
Gowdy and Goodlatte are launching a probe into FBI's handling of Clinton...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-24/house-officially-launches-probe-comeys-handling-clinton-email-investigation

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This is going to be a big deal - IF. The DOJ has to be a willing partner and not allow the FBI to stonewall information.
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