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Title: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 19, 2017, 08:15:33 AM

I know this Comey/Clinton thing is huge and as evidence rolls out it's going to get stranger and stranger.
So let's try and consolidate threads in this one post, otherwise, the forum will look like a Clinton trash heap and bury other equally important Dim scandals that deserve just as much exposure.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 19, 2017, 08:36:32 AM
Attorney: FBI Informant Was Blocked by Obama Administration from Testifying on Uranium One Deal


An American businessman who went undercover for the FBI was blocked during the Obama administration from telling Congress what he knew about Russia's efforts to influence the Clintons' and Obama administration decisions, according to a report.
Attorney Victoria Toensing, a former Reagan Justice Department official and former chief counsel of the Senate intelligence committee, told The Hill that she is trying to get the Trump administration or the FBI to free her client to talk.

"All of the information about this corruption has not come out," Toensing said.

She said her client possesses "specific allegations that Russian executives made to him about how they facilitated the Obama administration's 2010 approval of the Uranium One deal and sent millions of dollars in Russian nuclear funds to the U.S. to an entity assisting Bill Clinton's foundation."

At the time, Hillary Clinton was secretary of state and serving on the government panel that approved the deal, the lawyer said. Bill Clinton accepted $500,000 Russian speaking fees in 2010 and collected millions more in donations from parties with a stake in the Uranium One deal. The Clintons and the Obama administration have denied that had any influence on the deal.

But Toensing said her client can also testify that FBI agents made comments to him suggesting political pressure was exerted, and that there was specific evidence that could have scuttled approval of the Uranium One deal if it became public.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/18/attorney-fbi-informant-was-blocked-by-obama-administration-from-testifying-on-uranium-one-deal/
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 19, 2017, 09:07:35 AM
With Sessions head of the DOJ and Rosenstein caught right smack dab in the middle, like deer in the headlights caught ... it appears not a damn thing is going to become of this.   :cursing: :cursing:
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 19, 2017, 11:20:36 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 19, 2017, 09:07:35 AM
With Sessions head of the DOJ and Rosenstein caught right smack dab in the middle, like deer in the headlights caught ... it appears not a damn thing is going to become of this.   :cursing: :cursing:
Not till after the 2018 midterms, anyway.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 19, 2017, 01:39:00 PM
This is un fuckin believable.

WHY HAS MUELLER NOT BEEN FIRED YET??????
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 19, 2017, 01:50:50 PM
OK, Drudge, any day now.................
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 19, 2017, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 19, 2017, 01:39:00 PM
This is un fuckin believable.

WHY HAS MUELLER NOT BEEN FIRED YET??????

Because Mueller is investigating Trump ... Trump can fire him, but in the infinite wisdom from those in Trump's own party, in essence is not to fire him, because it wouldn't look good.  The corruption isn't just limited to the DOJ. That is why there has been such mayhem since Hillary lost, no one wants to be exposed.  There was an uproar when Trump appointed Sessions ... IMHO  he was bought and paid for soon after his appointment.

Unless Trump is privy to something about Sessions and knew what was coming down the pipe, Trump has no other choice but to fire him, Rosenstein and Mueller ... only thing is ... the DEMS, and the GOPe will call foul.   IMHO, don't be at all surprised if Mueller now finds something on Trump ... and it will be the story of the decade and this will all fade away into the shadows.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 19, 2017, 01:56:54 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 19, 2017, 01:54:49 PM
Because Mueller is investigating Trump ... Trump can fire him, but in the infinite wisdom from those in Trump's own party, in essence is not to fire him, because it wouldn't look good.  The corruption isn't just limited to the DOJ. That is why there has been such mayhem since Hillary lost, no one wants to be exposed.  There was an uproar when Trump appointed Sessions ... IMHO  he was bought and paid for soon after his appointment.

Unless Trump is privy to something about Sessions and knew what was coming down the pipe, Trump has no other choice but to fire him, Rosenstein and Mueller ... only thing is ... the DEMS, and the GOPe will call foul.   IMHO, don't be at all surprised if Mueller now finds something on Trump ... and it will be the story of the decade and this will all fade away into the shadows.

Proof?
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 19, 2017, 02:10:04 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 19, 2017, 01:56:54 PM
Proof?

??? Really?  Mueller's appointment was when Trump went after Sessions!  However, it was actually Rosenstein that appointed Mueller.  I also provided a link to the attorney's that Mueller has hired to investigate Trump.  Trump couldn't have been more clear when he stated that this investigation is the single greatest witch hunt in American political history.


http://www.businessinsider.com/lawyers-robert-mueller-hired-for-the-trump-russia-investigation-2017-6

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump/former-fbi-chief-mueller-appointed-to-probe-trump-russia-ties-idUSKCN18D1XT

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-investigation.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/20/us/politics/mueller-trump-russia.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/14/us/politics/jeff-sessions-trump.html
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 19, 2017, 02:13:31 PM
Typical DEMS; accuse the other side and lie and deny.  As I had stated before, all the time and money spent investigating Trump should have been spent looking at the other side.  Only problem is ... Trump's own DOJ is just as corrupt ... unless Sessions has had this in play all the while and is going to pull a rabbit out of his hat to bring them all down.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 19, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 19, 2017, 02:10:04 PM
??? Really?  Mueller's appointment was when Trump went after Sessions!  However, it was actually Rosenstein that appointed Mueller.  I also provided a link to the attorney's that Mueller has hired to investigate Trump.  Trump couldn't have been more clear when he stated that this investigation is the single greatest witch hunt in American political history.


http://www.businessinsider.com/lawyers-robert-mueller-hired-for-the-trump-russia-investigation-2017-6

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump/former-fbi-chief-mueller-appointed-to-probe-trump-russia-ties-idUSKCN18D1XT

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-investigation.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/20/us/politics/mueller-trump-russia.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/14/us/politics/jeff-sessions-trump.html

You said he's investigating Trump.  I'd like to see evidence of that specifically.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 19, 2017, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 19, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
You said he's investigating Trump.  I'd like to see evidence of that specifically.

Ok ... I'll reword it; he's investigating Trump's supposed collusion with Russia. 
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on October 19, 2017, 04:22:00 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 19, 2017, 03:50:59 PM
Ok ... I'll reword it; he's investigating Trump's supposed collusion with Russia.


Well let's just say he getting paid a lot of money to do a the investigating.    And when he hits a dead end he just adds more people on the bandwagon.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 20, 2017, 01:45:34 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 19, 2017, 03:50:59 PM
Ok ... I'll reword it; he's investigating Trump's supposed collusion with Russia.

No, he's not even doing that.  He's kicking down Manafort's door and scowering Facebook for Russian ads.  He's hanging around until something maybe pops up that he can possibly try and raise a stink about -- NOTHING to do with Russia, which apparently was the reason he was appointed.

He's the leftists' hail Mary... and unfortunately for them it turns out he's the wolf in the hen house.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 20, 2017, 05:17:22 AM
John Solomon, the reporter for The Hill who's been breaking these stories, was on Levin for a few minutes to give a summary:

https://audioboom.com/posts/6411301-10-19-17-mark-levin-audio-rewind?t=5540
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 20, 2017, 10:16:43 AM
Quote from: taxed on October 20, 2017, 05:17:22 AM
John Solomon, the reporter for The Hill who's been breaking these stories, was on Levin for a few minutes to give a summary:

https://audioboom.com/posts/6411301-10-19-17-mark-levin-audio-rewind?t=5540

Ok -- let's go with Mueller isn't investigating Trump. The fact still remains that Mueller was involved in Uranium One.  He was still appointed by Rosenstein who was also involved in Uranium One.  The fact remains that Rosenstein was appointed by Sessions.  So ... you tell me, how likely do you think it is, that with Sessions in play, how the investigation will go any further on Clinton? Or the Obama administration?  It won't.  Unless Sessions and Trump set this all up.  I don't think Sessions knew anything about any of this until after he too the position of AG ... IMHO he was bought soon afterwards. 

Perhaps the even bigger question is ...how long has Trump known about all this??
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 20, 2017, 04:13:00 PM
Before all this happened we were told repeatedly how honest Comey is and what an upstanding person he is. Well, Perhaps his past should be looked at. He's about as honest as Bill Clinton and competent as Barry Obama. 
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on October 20, 2017, 07:43:12 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on October 20, 2017, 04:13:00 PM
Before all this happened we were told repeatedly how honest Comey is and what an upstanding person he is. Well, Perhaps his past should be looked at. He's about as honest as Bill Clinton and competent as Barry Obama.


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All they chickens are coming home to roost for the Dem's.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 06:46:58 AM
Quote from: walkstall on October 20, 2017, 07:43:12 PM

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All they chickens are coming home to roost for the Dem's.

That maybe, but the problem IS Sessions.  He's not doing a darn thing. He's assisting the cover-up. Why is he so far refusing Sen. Grassley's request to lift the gag order imposed by the Obama administration as part of the Uranium 1 cover-up?

Also, remember he recused himself in dealing with investigation into Russia.  He stated in essence Rosenstein can investigate himself.

Remember when Trump was going to fire Sessions and members of Congress (on both sides) cried foul and he didn't follow through? So far it looks like the corruption of the DOJ remains.

Trump has two choices; direct Sessions to release the gag order or fire him.  If he doesn't then Trump himself is just as corrupt ... Hillary and Bill belong in jail.  For that matter, so does Obama, Rosenstein, Mueller, Holder and Lynch. 



Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 21, 2017, 07:11:50 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 06:46:58 AM
That maybe, but the problem IS Sessions.  He's not doing a darn thing. He's assisting the cover-up. Why is he so far refusing Sen. Grassley's request to lift the gag order imposed by the Obama administration as part of the Uranium 1 cover-up?

Also, remember he recused himself in dealing with investigation into Russia.  He stated in essence Rosenstein can investigate himself.

Remember when Trump was going to fire Sessions and members of Congress (on both sides) cried foul and he didn't follow through? So far it looks like the corruption of the DOJ remains.

Trump has two choices; direct Sessions to release the gag order or fire him.  If he doesn't then Trump himself is just as corrupt ... Hillary and Bill belong in jail.  For that matter, so does Obama, Rosenstein, Mueller, Holder and Lynch.
At this point, I can't help but think this has both party's prints all over it, including McStain's.
Point is, just like the TEA/IRS scandal, the GOP put on a dog and pony show and no one did the perp walk, simply because they were in on attacking TEA.

Just like TEA, the Establishment saw easy money through fleecing the Taxpayer as well as Russian money via the Clinton Foundation.
With that in mind, is it not possible the GOP put pressure on Trump top hire from a pool of corrupt Dims and Pubs to fill his Cabinet?
Ask yourself, why is the GOP so complacent over what's happening, why isn't the LSM questioning the GOP about this?


The left and Right paradigm no longer technically exists, both party's are solid leftists and neither have the best interests of the people or country at heart.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 21, 2017, 07:23:58 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 21, 2017, 07:11:50 AM
At this point, I can't help but think this has both party's prints all over it, including McStain's.
Point is, just like the TEA/IRS scandal, the GOP put on a dog and pony show and no one did the perp walk, simply because they were in on attacking TEA.

Just like TEA, the Establishment saw easy money through fleecing the Taxpayer as well as Russian money via the Clinton Foundation.
With that in mind, is it not possible the GOP put pressure on Trump top hire from a pool of corrupt Dims and Pubs to fill his Cabinet?
Ask yourself, why is the GOP so complacent over what's happening, why isn't the LSM questioning the GOP about this?


The left and Right paradigm no longer technically exists, both party's are solid leftists and neither have the best interests of the people or country at heart.

That's it right there.  If the Dems had clean hands, the proven-to-be corrupt media would be torching McCain and the others right now.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 21, 2017, 07:29:07 AM
Quote from: taxed on October 21, 2017, 07:23:58 AM
That's it right there.  If the Dems had clean hands, the proven-to-be corrupt media would be torching McCain and the others right now.
BINGO!!!!
The LSM NEVER EVER lets a Crisis go to waste, or if there's a distraction available, exploit, or be born of it.
If that doesn't work, create one out of whole cloth, but always find a way to blame the other party.
Yet none of that is happening.

This has "Political" scandal involving both party's, written all over it.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 21, 2017, 08:13:32 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 20, 2017, 10:16:43 AM
Ok -- let's go with Mueller isn't investigating Trump. The fact still remains that Mueller was involved in Uranium One.
Exactly.

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  He was still appointed by Rosenstein who was also involved in Uranium One.
He was the main guy who covered it up.

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  The fact remains that Rosenstein was appointed by Sessions.
Correct.

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  So ... you tell me, how likely do you think it is, that with Sessions in play, how the investigation will go any further on Clinton?
Grassley subpoenaed the undercover FBI witness, but he was put under an NDA by the Justice Department, which is silly.  Now that Sessions is in charge, it's up to him to waive the NDA, allowing the witness to testify.

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Or the Obama administration?  It won't.
They're in trouble.

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  Unless Sessions and Trump set this all up.
Sometimes I wonder... It would explain Sessions' recusal...

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  I don't think Sessions knew anything about any of this until after he too the position of AG ... IMHO he was bought soon afterwards. 
Possibly...

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Perhaps the even bigger question is ...how long has Trump known about all this??
He knows now, and he needs to be careful.  The left is as desperate as ever.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 08:15:56 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 21, 2017, 07:11:50 AM
At this point, I can't help but think this has both party's prints all over it, including McStain's.
Point is, just like the TEA/IRS scandal, the GOP put on a dog and pony show and no one did the perp walk, simply because they were in on attacking TEA.

Just like TEA, the Establishment saw easy money through fleecing the Taxpayer as well as Russian money via the Clinton Foundation.
With that in mind, is it not possible the GOP put pressure on Trump top hire from a pool of corrupt Dims and Pubs to fill his Cabinet?
Ask yourself, why is the GOP so complacent over what's happening, why isn't the LSM questioning the GOP about this?


The left and Right paradigm no longer technically exists, both party's are solid leftists and neither have the best interests of the people or country at heart.

Oh, absolutely, I'm not saying that the GOP is innocent in all of this; quite the opposite.  I've never been comfortable with Trump's choice of Sessions; perhaps he felt that Sessions would help him drain the swamp; the DEMS grilled Sessions for days before allowing the appointment. I believe Sessions was bought from both sides of the aisle; was he bought before or after the appointment?

The question right now is; is Trump going to allow this to be covered up or is he going to make some demands of Sessions? 

Meanwhile ... Trump has agreed to release the JFK documents next week.  The timing is perfect.  The media will be all over that.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/21/trump-suggests-hell-allow-release-classified-files-on-kennedy-assassination.html
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 21, 2017, 08:25:49 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 08:15:56 AM
Oh, absolutely, I'm not saying that the GOP is innocent in all of this; quite the opposite.  I've never been comfortable with Trump's choice of Sessions; perhaps he felt that Sessions would help him drain the swamp; the DEMS grilled Sessions for days before allowing the appointment. I believe Sessions was bought from both sides of the aisle; was he bought before or after the appointment?

The question right now is; is Trump going to allow this to be covered up or is he going to make some demands of Sessions? 

Meanwhile ... Trump has agreed to release the JFK documents next week.  The timing is perfect.  The media will be all over that.
I wouldn't say "Bought and Paid For", more like thick as thieves.
Based on the GOP' move leftward over the decades and evidence of their colluding over Commiecare, it's pretty clear these people are all aware of each other's goings-on, and without the approval of the other side, neither could get away with a thing, hence "Colluding".

This is why I'm certain both party's needed to hamstring Trump and any investigation to be forthcoming.
Based on the silence of the GOP, it's blatantly obvious they more than approved of Comey's obstruction, so much so, they allowed the left to point fingers at Trump, who had absolutely nothing to do with any of it.

So where is the GOP demanding Comey be fired? Heh, that would mean they'd have to appoint a real investigator and that's not going to happen.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on October 21, 2017, 09:14:27 AM
Quote from: taxed on October 21, 2017, 08:13:32 AM
Exactly.
He was the main guy who covered it up.
Correct.
Grassley subpoenaed the undercover FBI witness, but he was put under an NDA by the Justice Department, which is silly.  Now that Sessions is in charge, it's up to him to waive the NDA, allowing the witness to testify.
They're in trouble.
Sometimes I wonder... It would explain Sessions' recusal...
Possibly...
He knows now, and he needs to be careful.  The left is as desperate as ever.

I have a question. Ms Independence says Rosenstine was appointed by Sessions. I thought he was career DOJ employee.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Possum on October 21, 2017, 09:14:56 AM
One item all of this has given Trump is one hell of an ace in the hole. If mueller tries to prosecute any one close to Trump, mueller will be exposed as being as crooked as hillary, and there goes his legacy. All I see mueller doing from this point on is milking the tax payer for all they are worth. I must say, liberal dems and rinos have a lot in common. Guessing here mccain was a "republican" so the liberal dims would not look so bad.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on October 21, 2017, 09:14:27 AM
I have a question. Ms Independence says Rosenstine was appointed by Sessions. I thought he was career DOJ employee.
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Rosenstein worked under both Clinton and Obama and I believe as far back as Bush ... but Sessions still had to appoint him to be the Deputy AG.  Sessions obviously knew of his background and I was absolutely flabbergasted when I found out Sessions selected him.

The corruption is way too obvious right now ... it's up to Trump really to start cleaning house.  Question is, will he?  If he doesn't then what does that tell us?
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 21, 2017, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 11:35:43 AM
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Rosenstein worked under both Clinton and Obama and I believe as far back as Bush ... but Sessions still had to appoint him to be the Deputy AG.  Sessions obviously knew of his background and I was absolutely flabbergasted when I found out Sessions selected him.

The corruption is way too obvious right now ... it's up to Trump really to start cleaning house.  Question is, will he?  If he doesn't then what does that tell us?
What's your time frame for replacement, a month, after the midterms?
Point being, the RINO want nothing to happen till after the midterms have passed, because if word starts leaking of GOP involvement, be it coercing Trump into hiring these leftists, or stifling evidence, GOP RINO suffers even more under pressure from the base.

Not a fan of Trump, but it looks like Trump is playing a serious game of chess here and winning, but it may be a long time before we start to see results from Trump's moves.
Problem is, we only know what they want us to know until someone leaks the truth, until then, we can only speculate.
Keep in mind, Trump has no allies in the GOP as far as the Establishment is concerned, so he has to make his every move count.
After 2018, all bets are off.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 21, 2017, 11:50:47 AM
What's your time frame for replacement, a month, after the midterms?
Point being, the RINO want nothing to happen till after the midterms have passed, because if word starts leaking of GOP involvement, be it coercing Trump into hiring these leftists, or stifling evidence, GOP RINO suffers even more under pressure from the base.

Not a fan of Trump, but it looks like Trump is playing a serious game of chess here and winning, but it may be a long time before we start to see results from Trump's moves.
Problem is, we only know what they want us to know until someone leaks the truth, until then, we can only speculate.
Keep in mind, Trump has no allies in the GOP as far as the Establishment is concerned, so he has to make his every move count.
After 2018, all bets are off.

I think they need to be replaced immediately; but the problem is going to be from this point forward, that Trump will have to move mountains and need a small miracle to get the votes needed to replace them.  In that respect, I don't see Trump winning at all -- check mate. This story hasn't hit the MSM so there's no outcry from the public.   I'm guessing that perhaps they might even go as far now as to try and impeach him and 2018 will be business as usual.  The only one who seems to try to be helping right now is Grassley and Bannon.  Everyone else is very quiet.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 21, 2017, 01:13:10 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 12:43:57 PM
I think they need to be replaced immediately; but the problem is going to be from this point forward, that Trump will have to move mountains and need a small miracle to get the votes needed to replace them.  In that respect, I don't see Trump winning at all -- check mate. This story hasn't hit the MSM so there's no outcry from the public.   I'm guessing that perhaps they might even go as far now as to try and impeach him and 2018 will be business as usual.  The only one who seems to try to be helping right now is Grassley and Bannon.  Everyone else is very quiet.
Ye of little faith.
I mentioned midterms for a reason, the RINO enclave is on the verge of losing the Senate to Conservatives, when that happens, the entire dynamic changes in DC, all bets are off the table and we start anew.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 01:15:04 PM
I've not been a fan of Trump, and felt for a very long time he ran to siphon the conservative vote away from Cruz and to help out his buddy Hillary. Admittedly he's done some good things, but right now, I believe what he does from this point forward with the information he's had will be all telling.  Obamacare wasn't repealed, the wall still hasn't been built, and taxes are being worked on.  Has he put on a horse and pony show all along with lots of smoke and mirrors or is he legitimately trying to turn things around?
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 21, 2017, 01:30:21 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 01:15:04 PM
I've not been a fan of Trump, and felt for a very long time he ran to siphon the conservative vote away from Cruz and to help out his buddy Hillary. Admittedly he's done some good things, but right now, I believe what he does from this point forward with the information he's had will be all telling.  Obamacare wasn't repealed, the wall still hasn't been built, and taxes are being worked on.  Has he put on a horse and pony show all along with lots of smoke and mirrors or is he legitimately trying to turn things around?
He's working against two separate hostile entities, Pubs and Dims, and IMO maneuvering expertly well, considering.
The RINO want him to fail so they can force their agenda, the Dims want him to fail for obvious reasons, and no, there will never be an Impeachment, that's mere distraction to make him look as if he is somehow the epitome of evil.

All I can say is turn off the TV, the crap you're hearing is designed to create doubt, but again, I can't stress enough, midterms will be a game changer and Trump will be able to move about more freely after we win.
Oh, and you mention tax cut budget? The media is spinning this in the RINO favor, saying "if they pass a tax cut, that will be enough to quell the base."
Really, that's all we want? That's the narrative of a failed Congress, that all they have to do is one little thing, and all their inept activity prior, will magically be forgiven by the base.

Well, that's total Bull Shit, this is their way of feeding it pork, placing the onus on Trump to sign whatever piece of shit Legislation they send him, then claiming victory.
Trump is on no way Conservative, but to be honest, I can't see where Cruz could have faired any better with two leftist party's Hell bent on destroying his Presidency either.

Our best bet is to back Trump and call out the GOP and stand firm on gutting the party of Marxists.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 02:11:01 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 21, 2017, 01:30:21 PM
He's working against two separate hostile entities, Pubs and Dims, and IMO maneuvering expertly well, considering.
The RINO want him to fail so they can force their agenda, the Dims want him to fail for obvious reasons, and no, there will never be an Impeachment, that's mere distraction to make him look as if he is somehow the epitome of evil.

All I can say is turn off the TV, the crap you're hearing is designed to create doubt, but again, I can't stress enough, midterms will be a game changer and Trump will be able to move about more freely after we win.
Oh, and you mention tax cut budget? The media is spinning this in the RINO favor, saying "if they pass a tax cut, that will be enough to quell the base."
Really, that's all we want? That's the narrative of a failed Congress, that all they have to do is one little thing, and all their inept activity prior, will magically be forgiven by the base.

Well, that's total Bull Shit, this is their way of feeding it pork, placing the onus on Trump to sign whatever piece of shit Legislation they send him, then claiming victory.
Trump is on no way Conservative, but to be honest, I can't see where Cruz could have faired any better with two leftist party's Hell bent on destroying his Presidency either.

Our best bet is to back Trump and call out the GOP and stand firm on gutting the party of Marxists.

Except for watching an occasional movie and a soap opera (yep I'll admit to it), I don't watch TV; I read various different articles, do a little research and come to my own conclusions. I have always doubted Trump; ever since he relentlessly attacked Cruz and spent very little time attacking his supposed true opponent Hillary.  All things considering, Cruz would have faced an uphill battle as well, but I still believe he would have done a better job; strictly my opinion.

I have given Trump credit when I believe it has been due.  As for 2018; Bannon is trying to help unseat the incumbents that McConnell and swamp are trying to retain.  Trump actually trying to fire Sessions and bring this matter front and center is what he should be doing; it would IMO give him and conservatives running the credibility needed that the swamp is indeed being drained and conservative voters who haven't voted in a long time because of their disgust with the GOP might just decide to vote again.  It certainly would give reassurance that he is on our side and not the side of the establishment.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on October 21, 2017, 02:47:09 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 01:15:04 PM
I've not been a fan of Trump, and felt for a very long time he ran to siphon the conservative vote away from Cruz and to help out his buddy Hillary. Admittedly he's done some good things, but right now, I believe what he does from this point forward with the information he's had will be all telling.  Obamacare wasn't repealed, the wall still hasn't been built, and taxes are being worked on.  Has he put on a horse and pony show all along with lots of smoke and mirrors or is he legitimately trying to turn things around?


It my be just me, but some times you sound like Snowflake.  You went it all right now.  Think back when you and your other half started out.  you got one or two things at a time, or you were up to debt on your charge cards  Remember Trump is not a politician first but a business man.  All in do time.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 03:06:39 PM
Quote from: walkstall on October 21, 2017, 02:47:09 PM

It my be just me, but some times you sound like Snowflake.  You went it all right now.  Think back when you and your other half started out.  you got one or two things at a time, or you were up to debt on your charge cards  Remember Trump is not a politician first but a business man.  All in do time.

Ok ... I'll shrug off the fact that you called me a Snowflake ... thanks for the insult!!  Ok ... so what do you think is going to happen if Trump doesn't do anything and Sessions let's this slide; so far he has refused to lift the gag order.  Clinton and cronies continue to get away with whatever they want just as they have for decades.  I don't think waiting decades for the Clintons to finally be held responsible is being overly impatient.  I get your point, but in the past it seems that giving the Clintons any leeway allows the time to manuever, lie, deceive and wriggle out of responsibility, regardless of cost.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 21, 2017, 03:09:35 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 02:11:01 PM
Except for watching an occasional movie and a soap opera (yep I'll admit to it), I don't watch TV; I read various different articles, do a little research and come to my own conclusions. I have always doubted Trump; ever since he relentlessly attacked Cruz and spent very little time attacking his supposed true opponent Hillary.  All things considering, Cruz would have faced an uphill battle as well, but I still believe he would have done a better job; strictly my opinion.

I have given Trump credit when I believe it has been due.  As for 2018; Bannon is trying to help unseat the incumbents that McConnell and swamp are trying to retain.  Trump actually trying to fire Sessions and bring this matter front and center is what he should be doing; it would IMO give him and conservatives running the credibility needed that the swamp is indeed being drained and conservative voters who haven't voted in a long time because of their disgust with the GOP might just decide to vote again.  It certainly would give reassurance that he is on our side and not the side of the establishment.  Time will tell.
The election is over, move on.
Your opinions parallel those of TV media talking heads, CNN, Juan Williams etc. How is it you missed Trump's push Right while the Establishment blocks his every move, with the exception of judicial appointments, the Wall, and the list is long. I'm not saying he's being Conservative, rather doing what he was elected to do and the GOP blocks his every move, and yet you seem to think Trump's ids to blame for everything that's happening.

How would Cruz have fared better? Seriously, the Marxist RINO fight Trump on what most consider Dim issues as well as what some consider Conservative points, and it's not because it's Trump, it's the fact that he is fighting leftists at every turn.
I'd still rather Cruz had been elected, but I doubt he'd have fared any better.

I read everything, even foreign news, but I only read opinion pieces for the sheer pleasure of shredding them, and that's the problem, there is no real news out there, it's incumbent upon you to be able to cut through the opinion crap and find the tiny bits of truth that slip through the wall.

How do you think I found out and posted the thread on ISIS surrendering? It wasn't an American news site.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on October 21, 2017, 04:10:21 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 03:06:39 PM
Ok ... I'll shrug off the fact that you called me a Snowflake ... thanks for the insult!!  Ok ... so what do you think is going to happen if Trump doesn't do anything and Sessions let's this slide; so far he has refused to lift the gag order.  Clinton and cronies continue to get away with whatever they want just as they have for decades.  I don't think waiting decades for the Clintons to finally be held responsible is being overly impatient.  I get your point, but in the past it seems that giving the Clintons any leeway allows the time to manuever, lie, deceive and wriggle out of responsibility, regardless of cost.


Let me put it this way.  IF your other half controls all the money and you have to ask for every red¢ and tell you NO.  What will you do?
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 04:40:41 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 21, 2017, 03:09:35 PM
The election is over, move on.
Your opinions parallel those of TV media talking heads, CNN, Juan Williams etc. How is it you missed Trump's push Right while the Establishment blocks his every move, with the exception of judicial appointments, the Wall, and the list is long. I'm not saying he's being Conservative, rather doing what he was elected to do and the GOP blocks his every move, and yet you seem to think Trump's ids to blame for everything that's happening.

How would Cruz have fared better? Seriously, the Marxist RINO fight Trump on what most consider Dim issues as well as what some consider Conservative points, and it's not because it's Trump, it's the fact that he is fighting leftists at every turn.
I'd still rather Cruz had been elected, but I doubt he'd have fared any better.

I read everything, even foreign news, but I only read opinion pieces for the sheer pleasure of shredding them, and that's the problem, there is no real news out there, it's incumbent upon you to be able to cut through the opinion crap and find the tiny bits of truth that slip through the wall.

How do you think I found out and posted the thread on ISIS surrendering? It wasn't an American news site.


Again, not a TV watcher, nor did I miss the roadblocks given by his own party and the left every time he tries to accomplish what he promised. But if you want to form that opinion, that's certainly your prerogative. The blockades coming from his own party and from the left have been obvious. I've never denied that is happening.  Opinions are my own, like them or not.  I was of the opinion that Trump made a huge mistake when he first appointed Sessions, that opinion grew stronger when he appointed Rosenstein who in turn appointed Mueller. Yes, I looked up their backgrounds; I certainly didn't make any assumptions based on a CNN story that focused months ago on the connection; and I certainly don't think they would have reported that connection. I've expressed that opinion long ago and that opinion hasn't changed.  IF Trump still believes Sessions is helping to drain the swamp and actually doing the job that he was hired to do, then obviously he has no reason to fire him and we'll hopefully be hearing of Clinton being held responsible. IF Trump doesn't fire Sessions and no attempt is made to hold Clinton responsible and nothing becomes of all this as has happened for decades where the Clintons are concerned, then to me we've still got a huge problem, with Trump being part of that problem.

If Sessions isn't part of the problem and he actually holds the Clintons and others responsible, I'll certainly admit I was wrong. Him not lifting the gag order doesn't look to favorable for him ... just my opinion.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: walkstall on October 21, 2017, 04:10:21 PM

Let me put it this way.  IF your other half controls all the money and you have to ask for every red¢ and tell you NO.  What will you do?

First of all, I would have never married my other half if I had to ask for every red cent and secondly if that came to be I would work on rectifying the situation.  This December we'll be married for 35 years and God willing we'll both be around to celebrate a couple more anniversaries.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on October 21, 2017, 06:03:30 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 04:45:36 PM
First of all, I would have never married my other half if I had to ask for every red cent and secondly if that came to be I would work on rectifying the situation.  This December we'll be married for 35 years and God willing we'll both be around to celebrate a couple more anniversaries.

Good for you and yours.  it will be our 50 this months.

Remember it has taken over 50+ years to get this way and it will not all be change in 4 year.   Trump has the Dem party and RINO party to deal with along with the MSM.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: walkstall on October 21, 2017, 06:03:30 PM
Good for you and yours.  it will be our 50 this months.

Remember it has taken over 50+ years to get this way and it will not all be change in 4 year.   Trump has the Dem party and RINO party to deal with along with the MSM.

God Bless you and yours Walks.  Happy 50th Anniversary!!!
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 22, 2017, 06:28:22 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 04:40:41 PM
Again, not a TV watcher, nor did I miss the roadblocks given by his own party and the left every time he tries to accomplish what he promised. But if you want to form that opinion, that's certainly your prerogative. The blockades coming from his own party and from the left have been obvious. I've never denied that is happening.  Opinions are my own, like them or not.  I was of the opinion that Trump made a huge mistake when he first appointed Sessions, that opinion grew stronger when he appointed Rosenstein who in turn appointed Mueller. Yes, I looked up their backgrounds; I certainly didn't make any assumptions based on a CNN story that focused months ago on the connection; and I certainly don't think they would have reported that connection. I've expressed that opinion long ago and that opinion hasn't changed.  IF Trump still believes Sessions is helping to drain the swamp and actually doing the job that he was hired to do, then obviously he has no reason to fire him and we'll hopefully be hearing of Clinton being held responsible. IF Trump doesn't fire Sessions and no attempt is made to hold Clinton responsible and nothing becomes of all this as has happened for decades where the Clintons are concerned, then to me we've still got a huge problem, with Trump being part of that problem.

If Sessions isn't part of the problem and he actually holds the Clintons and others responsible, I'll certainly admit I was wrong. Him not lifting the gag order doesn't look to favorable for him ... just my opinion.
I get that, I thought he campaigned like a true lib, no class whatsoever, but that was a campaign, and what he did was standard  for a leftist Hell bent on winning, but he didn't campaign on typical leftist issues, so most of us tossed it all aside because Trump's win only came with the help of the Marxist RINO, so we've moved on from the low life campaign tactics that were used while never forgiving the gop'E for screwing a Conservative.

With that said, what followed the campaign was a series of moves and manipulations by the party, Trump being new to the game needed allies fast and unfortunately, many of them were Dims because he knew the gop'E couldn't be trusted, but also knew he had to work with the tools he had at his disposal.

The gop'E already had designs on his agenda and were going to make it their own at any price.
You want to blame all this on Trump yet want to ignore the machinations by a leftist gop'E. I'm not saying what you're seeing is wrong, what I'm saying is you are ignoring the obvious elephant in the room holding half the party hostage as the leftist half goes about manipulating the actions of a POTUS with his hands tied, yet you're demanding he makes moves to placate your needs on your timescale?

All I'm trying to get across to you, is that Trump is playing a serious game of chess and maneuvering as best as possible, knowing the gop'e time is running out with the Midterms approaching.
If Trump moves too soon, the leftist run the board, if he bides his time and runs out the clock, the next move the RINO make will be irrelevant because the midterms will be the big game changer, the fruit produced by the two previous midterm elections.

We've spent nearly a decade getting this far and Trump knows it, and he also knows just how precariously perched the gop'E is up against the precipice, as does the gop'E, they are trying to force Trump's hand, yet all you can focus on is what they want you to see.

Am I getting through here? You are falling for the leftist narrative the media is producing under the direction of the Establishment.
Yes, the LSM is helping the gop'E because they share the same financial backers, the same ones they helped the DNC till it collapsed.
There is far more in play than you're recognizing, you're focusing on exactly what they want you to see.

My entire point is patience, let the clock play out, it's still his first year and we still have an election to get through where we kill off the power of a RINO majority.
If after that, he still acts like a powerless fool, then there's nothing we can do to help him, but I think the exact opposite is going to happen because the Conservative majority will more than likely control the purse strings over Congress.
The Establishment will have lost, the left will  have lost and Trump will no longer be beholden to their wishes.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 22, 2017, 08:55:09 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 21, 2017, 01:15:04 PM
I've not been a fan of Trump, and felt for a very long time he ran to siphon the conservative vote away from Cruz and to help out his buddy Hillary. Admittedly he's done some good things, but right now, I believe what he does from this point forward with the information he's had will be all telling.  Obamacare wasn't repealed, the wall still hasn't been built, and taxes are being worked on.  Has he put on a horse and pony show all along with lots of smoke and mirrors or is he legitimately trying to turn things around?

He hasn't been in a whole year yet...  I like the pace.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 22, 2017, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: taxed on October 22, 2017, 08:55:09 AM
He hasn't been in a whole year yet...  I like the pace.
Some are just too impatient. This is politics, where one major play may take years to come to fruition, Hell, look how long it took Dims to infest the GOP.
Nothing is going to change in the first year, that takes groundwork.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 22, 2017, 12:18:59 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 22, 2017, 06:28:22 AM
I get that, I thought he campaigned like a true lib, no class whatsoever, but that was a campaign, and what he did was standard  for a leftist Hell bent on winning, but he didn't campaign on typical leftist issues, so most of us tossed it all aside because Trump's win only came with the help of the Marxist RINO, so we've moved on from the low life campaign tactics that were used while never forgiving the gop'E for screwing a Conservative.

With that said, what followed the campaign was a series of moves and manipulations by the party, Trump being new to the game needed allies fast and unfortunately, many of them were Dims because he knew the gop'E couldn't be trusted, but also knew he had to work with the tools he had at his disposal.

The gop'E already had designs on his agenda and were going to make it their own at any price.
You want to blame all this on Trump yet want to ignore the machinations by a leftist gop'E. I'm not saying what you're seeing is wrong, what I'm saying is you are ignoring the obvious elephant in the room holding half the party hostage as the leftist half goes about manipulating the actions of a POTUS with his hands tied, yet you're demanding he makes moves to placate your needs on your timescale?

All I'm trying to get across to you, is that Trump is playing a serious game of chess and maneuvering as best as possible, knowing the gop'e time is running out with the Midterms approaching.
If Trump moves too soon, the leftist run the board, if he bides his time and runs out the clock, the next move the RINO make will be irrelevant because the midterms will be the big game changer, the fruit produced by the two previous midterm elections.

We've spent nearly a decade getting this far and Trump knows it, and he also knows just how precariously perched the gop'E is up against the precipice, as does the gop'E, they are trying to force Trump's hand, yet all you can focus on is what they want you to see.

Am I getting through here? You are falling for the leftist narrative the media is producing under the direction of the Establishment.
Yes, the LSM is helping the gop'E because they share the same financial backers, the same ones they helped the DNC till it collapsed.
There is far more in play than you're recognizing, you're focusing on exactly what they want you to see.

My entire point is patience, let the clock play out, it's still his first year and we still have an election to get through where we kill off the power of a RINO majority.
If after that, he still acts like a powerless fool, then there's nothing we can do to help him, but I think the exact opposite is going to happen because the Conservative majority will more than likely control the purse strings over Congress.
The Establishment will have lost, the left will  have lost and Trump will no longer be beholden to their wishes.

??? I have not blamed anything on Trump...he needs to ensure that Sessions does his job. He's the one that hired Rosenstein. Sessions could easily allow this to fall by the wayside and Trump could very well allow that. We don't know for certain yet what's going to happen.  Only one right now that seems to be bent on holding him responsible is Grassley. I'm not falling for any leftist narrative; I'm calling them as I see them.  I certainly called Rosenstien/Mueller corruption a long time ago. You think Trump should wait, I beg to differ. We have an opportunity knockin' on the door right now to get rid of the  RINO's and hang the DEMS by bringing all the corruption to light and holding people responsible on both sides of the aisle.  Making the corruption of the establishment crystal clear opens up seats that can be filled by conservatives in 2018. All seats are up in the House in 2018, 8 GOP seats are up in the Senate and 25 DEM seats are up.  Meanwhile Bannon has already made some headway ensuring that Luther Strange won't be running. Why wait? Why give the establishment another chance to fill those seats with incumbents in 2018?  IF Trump accomplishes hanging Clinton and Obama can you imagine how energized the conservative base will be??  He sits on his hands and waits, IMHO he's lost a golden opportunity to shift the scales in the Senate and House way to the right by 2018.  In doing so we'll get our wall, we'll get more conservative justices, we'll get full repeal of Obamacare, we'll get tax reform, the economy will take off and if he so chooses to run for re-election in 2020, his chances for re-election will have skyrocketed.  The DEMS will have lost huge with no chance of recovery for quite some time.

The ball is in Sessions hands right now.  Trump needs to remind him he either does his job right or he'll be out of one.  If he doesn't then we'll know exactly where he stands.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 22, 2017, 01:02:31 PM
Glad to see this!!

House also probing Obama-era Uranium One deal, DeSantis says

The House Oversight Committee has started its investigation into an Obama-era deal in which a Russian-backed company bought a uranium firm with mines in the U.S., Rep. Ron DeSantis told Fox News on Sunday, adding that he's spoken with the federal government's "confidential informant" on the matter.

The uranium agreement was reached while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, and some investors in the Russian-backed company, Uranium One, had relationships with former President Bill Clinton and donated to the Clinton Foundation.

"I've spoken with the confidential informant that helped the FBI uncover this bribery scheme," DeSantis, R-Fla., a member of the oversight committee, told "America's News Headquarters." "Clearly, it's in the public's interest that this individual be able to tell his story to Congress.".....

......DeSantis said Sunday the informant to whom he spoke signed his original non-disclosure deal with Obama administration Attorney General Eric Holder and was "threatened with reprisal" by the Justice Department under Attorney General Loretta Lynch when he tried to "come forward" in 2016.

DeSantis also said he has spoken with the informant's attorney, but it's unclear whether the informant is the same one to whom Grassley has referred.

The House Oversight Committee doesn't appear to have announced officially that it has opened a probe or more formal investigation. Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., could not be reached Sunday for comment.

President Trump said last week that media outlets have failed to cover the purchase of American uranium mines by the Russian-backed company adequately, as most recently reported by The Hill.

The Senate committee launched its probe after the series of Hill stories, which showed the FBI had evidence that Russian nuclear officials were involved in fraudulent dealings in 2009 before the uranium deal was approved.....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/22/house-also-probing-obama-era-uranium-one-deal-desantis-says.html
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 22, 2017, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 22, 2017, 12:18:59 PM
??? I have not blamed anything on Trump...he needs to ensure that Sessions does his job. He's the one that hired Rosenstein. Sessions could easily allow this to fall by the wayside and Trump could very well allow that. We don't know for certain yet what's going to happen.  Only one right now that seems to be bent on holding him responsible is Grassley. I'm not falling for any leftist narrative; I'm calling them as I see them.  I certainly called Rosenstien/Mueller corruption a long time ago. You think Trump should wait, I beg to differ. We have an opportunity knockin' on the door right now to get rid of the  RINO's and hang the DEMS by bringing all the corruption to light and holding people responsible on both sides of the aisle.  Making the corruption of the establishment crystal clear opens up seats that can be filled by conservatives in 2018. All seats are up in the House in 2018, 8 GOP seats are up in the Senate and 25 DEM seats are up.  Meanwhile Bannon has already made some headway ensuring that Luther Strange won't be running. Why wait? Why give the establishment another chance to fill those seats with incumbents in 2018?  IF Trump accomplishes hanging Clinton and Obama can you imagine how energized the conservative base will be??  He sits on his hands and waits, IMHO he's lost a golden opportunity to shift the scales in the Senate and House way to the right by 2018.  In doing so we'll get our wall, we'll get more conservative justices, we'll get full repeal of Obamacare, we'll get tax reform, the economy will take off and if he so chooses to run for re-election in 2020, his chances for re-election will have skyrocketed.  The DEMS will have lost huge with no chance of recovery for quite some time.

The ball is in Sessions hands right now.  Trump needs to remind him he either does his job right or he'll be out of one.  If he doesn't then we'll know exactly where he stands.
Herein lies the issue, we don't have all the answers, we don't know what Trump is dealing with where the corrupt GOP is concerned.
All you have is speculation, accusations, which does nothing but raise further suspicion on Trump, when in fact, so far he is trying to get his agenda through and the GOP blocks his every move.

You claim you have not blamed Trump for anything, yet nearly every post is full of accusations that Trump may be somehow involved in collusion or some other form of deception, and no, it's not a matter of semantics.
The guy hasn't even had a year in office and you want everything NOW, and that's just not going to happen, even Reagan had to maneuver a hostile Congress, yet he was able to accomplish his agenda in spite of the opposition.

Trump has undone more leftist agenda than Reagan did by this time in office, and look what Reagan accomplished in his first term.
Gears of govt move slowly, and when you have two party's working against you, they nearly grind to a halt.
With that in mind, Trump has so far been very successful, so I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I didn't even support the guy, but I recognize what he's up against.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 22, 2017, 04:03:37 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 22, 2017, 02:39:49 PM
Herein lies the issue, we don't have all the answers, we don't know what Trump is dealing with where the corrupt GOP is concerned.
All you have is speculation, accusations, which does nothing but raise further suspicion on Trump, when in fact, so far he is trying to get his agenda through and the GOP blocks his every move.

You claim you have not blamed Trump for anything, yet nearly every post is full of accusations that Trump may be somehow involved in collusion or some other form of deception, and no, it's not a matter of semantics.
The guy hasn't even had a year in office and you want everything NOW, and that's just not going to happen, even Reagan had to maneuver a hostile Congress, yet he was able to accomplish his agenda in spite of the opposition.

Trump has undone more leftist agenda than Reagan did by this time in office, and look what Reagan accomplished in his first term.
Gears of govt move slowly, and when you have two party's working against you, they nearly grind to a halt.
With that in mind, Trump has so far been very successful, so I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I didn't even support the guy, but I recognize what he's up against.

Our opinions differ. I sincerely hope that Trump is successful. Right now, the MSM has been absolutely silent on all of this which is not surprising but troubling nonetheless.  So ... obviously we wait ... and we see what happens.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 23, 2017, 04:54:50 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 22, 2017, 04:03:37 PM
Our opinions differ. I sincerely hope that Trump is successful.
He has been so far...

Quote
Right now, the MSM has been absolutely silent on all of this which is not surprising but troubling nonetheless.  So ... obviously we wait ... and we see what happens.
In what universe would they not be silent about it?  These schemes that Podesta, the Obamas, and the Clintons were cooking up had big paydays.  Don't think any high ups in the MSM weren't going to get a taste of that.

The pressure has been coming up from the grass roots and down from the continuous elimination of green subsidies and schemes like the Iran deal, which I have no doubt plays a role in the Uranium One/Russia scam.  Russia has been working close with Iran last time I checked....  No wonder Bob Corker has been losing his mind.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 23, 2017, 07:31:13 AM
Well this is getting interesting...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-23/mueller-russian-collusion-probe-targeting-democratic-leaning-podesta-group

...and in timing with:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/22/exclusive-podestas-green-company-forced-to-close-because-hillary-lost-the-election/

are they just going to wrap it up with a sure thing?
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 23, 2017, 07:36:33 AM
Quote from: taxed on October 23, 2017, 07:31:13 AM
Well this is getting interesting...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-23/mueller-russian-collusion-probe-targeting-democratic-leaning-podesta-group

...and in timing with:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/22/exclusive-podestas-green-company-forced-to-close-because-hillary-lost-the-election/

are they just going to wrap it up with a sure thing?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The left can no longer hide. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 23, 2017, 10:46:51 AM
I haven't heard the words "Trump" and "Collusion" in a while.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 23, 2017, 11:24:58 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 23, 2017, 07:36:33 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The left can no longer hide. :thumbup:

Meanwhile; Hilary is claiming that the Uranium One issue has been debunked!  So she's doing what she's been doing for decades; lie and deny and eventually it all goes away!  Poof!

http://dailycallernewsfoundation.org/2017/10/23/hillary-calls-uranium-one-stories-debunked/
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 23, 2017, 11:45:57 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 23, 2017, 11:24:58 AM


Meanwhile; Hilary is claiming that the Uranium One issue has been debunked!  So she's doing what she's been doing for decades; lie and deny and eventually it all goes away!  Poof!

http://dailycallernewsfoundation.org/2017/10/23/hillary-calls-uranium-one-stories-debunked/
Yeah, keep denying Hitlary...

"John Barrasso, a Senator from Wyoming where Uranium One had its largest operation, wrote President Barack Obama, saying it "would give the Russian government control over a sizable portion of America's uranium production capacity." During this time, a Russian bank that would assign a "buy rating to Uranium one stock" paid Mr. Clinton $500,000 dollars to speak in Moscow.

The decision had to go through the Committee, which included Secretary Clinton. At the time, her husband, in addition to the speaking arrangements, was "collecting millions in donations from people associated with Uranium One." The Committee approved the deal in October of 2010.

The only reported Uranium Official to give to the Foundation was the chairman, Ian Tefler, who gave in 2007 less than $250,000. Mr. Tefler's family charity the Fenwood Foundation, however, donated millions of dollars from 2009 to 2013, reports the New York Times.

The Committee approved sale of the Canadian mining stakes provided the Russians with direct control of "one-fifth of all uranium production" in the United States, reports the New York Times. While the Russians were taking control of Uranium One between 2009 and 2013, Canadian records highlight a "flow of cash made its way" into the pockets of the Clinton Foundation."[/i]
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 23, 2017, 05:21:36 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 23, 2017, 11:45:57 AM
Yeah, keep denying Hitlary...

"John Barrasso, a Senator from Wyoming where Uranium One had its largest operation, wrote President Barack Obama, saying it "would give the Russian government control over a sizable portion of America's uranium production capacity." During this time, a Russian bank that would assign a "buy rating to Uranium one stock" paid Mr. Clinton $500,000 dollars to speak in Moscow.

The decision had to go through the Committee, which included Secretary Clinton. At the time, her husband, in addition to the speaking arrangements, was "collecting millions in donations from people associated with Uranium One." The Committee approved the deal in October of 2010.

The only reported Uranium Official to give to the Foundation was the chairman, Ian Tefler, who gave in 2007 less than $250,000. Mr. Tefler's family charity the Fenwood Foundation, however, donated millions of dollars from 2009 to 2013, reports the New York Times.

The Committee approved sale of the Canadian mining stakes provided the Russians with direct control of "one-fifth of all uranium production" in the United States, reports the New York Times. While the Russians were taking control of Uranium One between 2009 and 2013, Canadian records highlight a "flow of cash made its way" into the pockets of the Clinton Foundation."[/i]

Yep ... that sums it up quite nicely.  Now ... we wait to see IF the Clintons and all involved will be held accountable and responsible.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 23, 2017, 05:26:33 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 23, 2017, 05:21:36 PM
Yep ... that sums it up quite nicely.  Now ... we wait to see IF the Clintons and all involved will be held accountable and responsible.
I hate to say it, but nothing will happen till after the midterms when we can finally put pressure on the leftist RINO.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 24, 2017, 10:27:41 AM
Gowdy and Goodlatte are launching a probe into FBI's handling of Clinton...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-24/house-officially-launches-probe-comeys-handling-clinton-email-investigation

QuoteAfter months of inexplicable delays, the chairman of the House Judiciary and Oversight committees,  Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) and Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), announced moments ago a joint investigation into how the Justice Department handled last year's investigation into Hillary Clinton's private email server.

Among other things, Goodlatte and Gowdy said that the FBI must answer for why it chose to provide public updates in the Clinton investigation but not in the Trump investigation and why the FBI decided to "appropriate full decision making in respect to charging or not charging Secretary Clinton," a power typically left to the DOJ.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on October 24, 2017, 10:52:13 AM
Quote from: taxed on October 24, 2017, 10:27:41 AM
Gowdy and Goodlatte are launching a probe into FBI's handling of Clinton...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-24/house-officially-launches-probe-comeys-handling-clinton-email-investigation

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is going to be a big deal - IF. The DOJ has to be a willing partner and not allow the FBI to stonewall information.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 24, 2017, 11:02:59 AM
Make that TWO investigations...

http://therightscoop.com/boom-nunes-announces-investigations-into-clinton-uranium-one-russia-deal/
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 24, 2017, 11:11:21 AM
DOJ reviewing Grassley letter to release FBI informant from NDA...

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/doj-reviewing-grassley-letter-about-lifting-gag-order-fbi-informant

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 24, 2017, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: taxed on October 24, 2017, 11:11:21 AM
DOJ reviewing Grassley letter to release FBI informant from NDA...

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/doj-reviewing-grassley-letter-about-lifting-gag-order-fbi-informant

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Gee, who was Secretary of State at the tyime? :lol:

"Toensing said her client can also testify that FBI agents made comments to him suggesting political pressure was exerted during the Justice Department probe of the Russia corruption case and that there was specific evidence that could have scuttled approval of the Uranium One deal if it became public."
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 06:43:33 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 24, 2017, 11:52:20 AM
Gee, who was Secretary of State at the tyime? :lol:

"Toensing said her client can also testify that FBI agents made comments to him suggesting political pressure was exerted during the Justice Department probe of the Russia corruption case and that there was specific evidence that could have scuttled approval of the Uranium One deal if it became public."

I can already feel the spears flying towards me for my opinion, but until you get major networks like MSN, CNN, and MSNBC reporting I see this going nowhere.  The MSM needs to admit and report that something is rotten and wrong in D.C. and with the Clinton and Obama administration and make the public aware of this information. There needs to be public outcry to hang 'em and hang 'em high in order for there even to be a chance of indictment. Right now I'm sure they are trying to find a major spin on this information to make it appear to be nothing more than the usual GOP witch hunt against them.

Yes, I am of little faith that anything is going to happen.  They MSM  finally reporting on the DNC involvement with the Trump dosier ... nothing but distraction news and nothing will become of it either.  Meanwhile ... whatever happened to Wasserman and Awan?  The new DNC is shouting that they were never involved.

http://www.msnbc.com/
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dnc-our-new-leadership-was-not-involved-in-trump-dossier-funding/article/2638539
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 25, 2017, 06:49:22 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 06:43:33 AM
I can already feel the spears flying towards me for my opinion, but until you get major networks like MSN, CNN, and MSNBC reporting I see this going nowhere.  The MSM needs to admit and report that something is rotten and wrong in D.C. and with the Clinton and Obama administration and make the public aware of this information. There needs to be public outcry to hang 'em and hang 'em high in order for there even to be a chance of indictment. Right now I'm sure they are trying to find a major spin on this information to make it appear to be nothing more than the usual GOP witch hunt against them.

Yes, I am of little faith that anything is going to happen.  They MSM  finally reporting on the DNC involvement with the Trump dosier ... nothing but distraction news and nothing will become of it either.  Meanwhile ... whatever happened to Wasserman and Awan?  The new DNC is shouting that they were never involved.

http://www.msnbc.com/
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dnc-our-new-leadership-was-not-involved-in-trump-dossier-funding/article/2638539
I'll go a step further, it's not so much the LSM, rather the GOP refusing to follow through after they put on a show.
Remember all the perp walks after Gowdy's show prosecuting Lois Lerner and how both party's were involved in attacking TEA.
That's my biggest fear, that is until after 2018 when we have pull.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 25, 2017, 08:44:57 AM
CNN has a box for the Clinton/dossier collusion...  it's a start...
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 10:36:26 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 25, 2017, 06:49:22 AM
I'll go a step further, it's not so much the LSM, rather the GOP refusing to follow through after they put on a show.
Remember all the perp walks after Gowdy's show prosecuting Lois Lerner and how both party's were involved in attacking TEA.
That's my biggest fear, that is until after 2018 when we have pull.


Ok ... Agreed.  (Finally get where you're coming from with waiting).
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 25, 2017, 10:45:42 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 10:36:26 AM
Ok ... Agreed.  (Finally get where you're coming from with waiting).
Yep, sadly, Gowdy gave us a purview of what we could expect from gop'E investigations.
I believe all that will change after the midterms.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 10:45:47 AM
Oh hell no!  (Please excuse my language here).  On what planet is Mueller doing a good job and what about his involvement in Uranium One??  :cursing:

Trey Gowdy Praises Robert Mueller, Gives Him Vote Of Confidence


"This is a really difficult political environment we're in. I'm not sure you could find anyone not named Jesus that everyone would be happy with. I actually am satisfied with Robert Muller," Gowdy said during the Fox News interview.

Gowdy said it shouldn't matter who leads an investigation into the Uranium One deal because it should ultimately follow the facts to a logical conclusion.

"Investigations should follow facts and it really shouldn't matter who's leading them..........

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/25/trey-gowdy-praises-robert-mueller-gives-him-vote-of-confidence-video/



Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 25, 2017, 10:48:43 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 10:45:47 AM
Oh hell no!  (Please excuse my language here).  On what planet is Mueller doing a good job and what about his involvement in Uranium One??  :cursing:

Trey Gowdy Praises Robert Mueller, Gives Him Vote Of Confidence


"This is a really difficult political environment we're in. I'm not sure you could find anyone not named Jesus that everyone would be happy with. I actually am satisfied with Robert Muller," Gowdy said during the Fox News interview.

Gowdy said it shouldn't matter who leads an investigation into the Uranium One deal because it should ultimately follow the facts to a logical conclusion.

"Investigations should follow facts and it really shouldn't matter who's leading them..........

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/25/trey-gowdy-praises-robert-mueller-gives-him-vote-of-confidence-video/

I see that as Gowdy yanking Mueller's leash letting him know how things are running...
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 25, 2017, 10:49:50 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 10:45:47 AM
Oh hell no!  (Please excuse my language here).  On what planet is Mueller doing a good job and what about his involvement in Uranium One??  :cursing:

Trey Gowdy Praises Robert Mueller, Gives Him Vote Of Confidence [/b][/b]


"This is a really difficult political environment we're in. I'm not sure you could find anyone not named Jesus that everyone would be happy with. I actually am satisfied with Robert Muller," Gowdy said during the Fox News interview.

Gowdy said it shouldn't matter who leads an investigation into the Uranium One deal because it should ultimately follow the facts to a logical conclusion.

"Investigations should follow facts and it really shouldn't matter who's leading them..........

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/25/trey-gowdy-praises-robert-mueller-gives-him-vote-of-confidence-video/
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I rest my case, your Honor.
Title: Re: Clintons Committed More Treason Than For Which the Rosenbergs Were Executed!
Post by: walkstall on October 25, 2017, 03:12:14 PM
Quote from: mrclose on October 25, 2017, 02:30:34 PM
First things first!

Solar or Walks, I wasn't sure about where to post this so you can move it to the Comey/Clinton thread if you feel it applies.

I was thinking about all of the crap that the Clinton's have avoided being prosecuted for over the years and of course .. Bill's giveaway of our missile systems technology for 'Illegal' campaign contributions from the Chinese was #1 on my list!

I had heard the stories over the years but never really knew the breadth of the treason committed or if the stories were even true!

For those with the free time, I highly recommend this as a worthwhile time killer!

(There are some great links within the article itself.)

THE GREATER BREADTH OF THE CLINTONS' TREASON

*snip*
http://gemstatepatriot.com/blog/clintons-committed-treason-rosenbergs-executed-justice/



snip~
When President Dwight D. Eisenhower refused to invoke executive clemency for the Rosenbergs he stated, "I can only say that, by immeasurably increasing the chances of atomic war, the Rosenbergs may have condemned to death tens of millions of innocent people all over the world. The execution of two human beings is a grave matter. But even graver is the thought of the millions of dead whose deaths may be directly attributable to what these spies have done."


Does Congress and Trump have the Balls?
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Reports: DOJ has just lifted the gag order on the FBI informant
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 05:56:29 PM
It is now being reported by Fox Business News!!!! This IS HUGE!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/25/justice-department-provides-fbi-uranium-one-informant-to-congress.html
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Reports: DOJ has just lifted the gag order on the FBI informant
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 25, 2017, 06:41:31 PM
Hide your fans because shit is on the way.
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Reports: DOJ has just lifted the gag order on the FBI informant
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 06:49:54 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on October 25, 2017, 06:41:31 PM
Hide your fans because shit is on the way.

It's about dang time!!   :popcorn:  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 06:53:41 PM
Good op-ed piece.  IMHO and since it was just announced this evening that the gag order be lifted ... I would hope that this gets so big and IF they press charges against the Clinton that the MSM has no choice but to cover this.  This is much, much, bigger than Watergate. 

Stuart Varney: The media refuses to cover the Clinton Russian scandal


Russia, Russia, Russia. For months it was all we heard about. The left couldn't get enough of it. They really wanted you to believe that Hillary lost and Trump won because of Russian meddling.

My how times change! Now it's Russia and the Clinton connection. Of course the media refuses to cover and investigate, but there is yet another Clinton scandal here.

Rep. Devon Nunes, R-Calif., Chair of the House Intelligence Committee, is investigating the following:

A Russian backed company wanted to take control of a big chunk of America's uranium business. They gave millions, $145 million to a Clinton Foundation charity. Bill Clinton got a half million for a speech in Moscow and he met with Vladimir Putin, bingo. Shortly thereafter Hillary's State Department gives the okay for the Russians to buy our uranium. Is this pay to play? "Baloney," says Hillary.

Wait...there's more on the Russia/Clinton connection. The Clinton campaign and the Democrat National Committee paid for the Russian "dossier."  They bought, they funded, and they instigated, a so-called "report" on Donald Trump. Of course it was full of salacious and totally unproven dirt. Back then, the Clinton people denied any knowledge, and took great offense at the mere suggestion they knew anything about it.....

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/25/stuart-varney-media-refuses-to-cover-clinton-russian-scandal.html

Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Reports: DOJ has just lifted the gag order on the FBI informant
Post by: walkstall on October 25, 2017, 06:58:58 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on October 25, 2017, 06:41:31 PM
Hide your fans because shit is on the way.

Will the film make it to Congress?  People have been kill for less the this.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 25, 2017, 07:02:25 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 06:53:41 PM
Good op-ed piece.  IMHO and since it was just announced this evening that the gag order be lifted ... I would hope that this gets so big and IF they press charges against the Clinton that the MSM has no choice but to cover this.  This is much, much, bigger than Watergate. 

Stuart Varney: The media refuses to cover the Clinton Russian scandal


Russia, Russia, Russia. For months it was all we heard about. The left couldn't get enough of it. They really wanted you to believe that Hillary lost and Trump won because of Russian meddling.

My how times change! Now it's Russia and the Clinton connection. Of course the media refuses to cover and investigate, but there is yet another Clinton scandal here.

Rep. Devon Nunes, R-Calif., Chair of the House Intelligence Committee, is investigating the following:

A Russian backed company wanted to take control of a big chunk of America's uranium business. They gave millions, $145 million to a Clinton Foundation charity. Bill Clinton got a half million for a speech in Moscow and he met with Vladimir Putin, bingo. Shortly thereafter Hillary's State Department gives the okay for the Russians to buy our uranium. Is this pay to play? "Baloney," says Hillary.

Wait...there's more on the Russia/Clinton connection. The Clinton campaign and the Democrat National Committee paid for the Russian "dossier."  They bought, they funded, and they instigated, a so-called "report" on Donald Trump. Of course it was full of salacious and totally unproven dirt. Back then, the Clinton people denied any knowledge, and took great offense at the mere suggestion they knew anything about it.....

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/25/stuart-varney-media-refuses-to-cover-clinton-russian-scandal.html
I don't trust the Marxist Devon Nunes, any further than I could throw his ass, unless it was off a cliff.
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Reports: DOJ has just lifted the gag order on the FBI informant
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: walkstall on October 25, 2017, 06:58:58 PM
Will the film make it to Congress?  People have been kill for less the this.

Yeppers, I was kind of thinking the same thing and hopefully the 'informant' that they lifted the gag order on is under 24-7 protection and I sure as heck security around the White House has been ramped up.
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Reports: DOJ has just lifted the gag order on the FBI informant
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 07:26:49 PM
Any bets?? How far down the line do you think the Uranium One "scandal" goes?  Clinton, Obama, Lynch, Holder, Rosenstein, Mueller, Comey ... and??? 

Who can be trusted to start prosecuting??
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 07:43:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 25, 2017, 07:02:25 PM
I don't trust the Marxist Devon Nunes, any further than I could throw his ass, unless it was off a cliff.

I'm really not familiar with Nunes ... but after seeing the R-Calif after his name ... I have no doubt that you are right.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 26, 2017, 03:42:34 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 07:43:34 PM
I'm really not familiar with Nunes ... but after seeing the R-Calif after his name ... I have no doubt that you are right.
Yeah, he even rates lower than RINO Gowdy.

Representative
Devin Nunes F 43%


https://www.conservativereview.com/pdf/400297.pdf#page=2
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Reports: DOJ has just lifted the gag order on the FBI informant
Post by: supsalemgr on October 26, 2017, 04:46:50 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 25, 2017, 05:56:29 PM
It is now being reported by Fox Business News!!!! This IS HUGE!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/25/justice-department-provides-fbi-uranium-one-informant-to-congress.html

Let's hope so.
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Reports: DOJ has just lifted the gag order on the FBI informant
Post by: Bronx on October 26, 2017, 05:39:50 AM
Quote from: walkstall on October 25, 2017, 06:58:58 PM
Will the film make it to Congress?  People have been kill for less the this.

ROT ROH...move over Vince Foster to might have company soon.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Bronx on October 26, 2017, 06:49:49 AM
Wow...This is an excellent artile written with the time lines, the players, where the money went to, what went down, and who plea bargained out to keep this from going to trial.  It almost reads out like a Tom Clansy movie.

A little long but well worth the reading. Enjoy you political junkies...... :thumbsup:

The Obama Administration's Uranium One Scandal

Let's put the Uranium One scandal in perspective: The cool half-million bucks the Putin regime funneled to Bill Clinton was five times the amount it spent on those Facebook ads — the ones the media-Democrat complex ludicrously suggests swung the 2016 presidential election to Donald Trump.

The Facebook-ad buy, which started in June 2015 — before Donald Trump entered the race — was more left-wing agitprop (ads pushing hysteria on racism, immigration, guns, etc.) than electioneering. The Clintons' own long-time political strategist Mark Penn estimates that just $6,500 went to actual electioneering. (You read that right: 65 hundred dollars.) By contrast, the staggering $500,000 payday from a Kremlin-tied Russian bank for a single speech was part of a multi-million-dollar influence-peddling scheme to enrich the former president and his wife, then–secretary of state Hillary Clinton. At the time, Russia was plotting — successfully — to secure U.S. government approval for its acquisition of Uranium One, and with it, tens of billions of dollars in U.S. uranium reserves.

Here's the kicker: The Uranium One scandal is not only, or even principally, a Clinton scandal. It is an Obama-administration scandal.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452972/uranium-one-deal-obama-administration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering

Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 26, 2017, 07:09:49 AM
Quote from: Bronx on October 26, 2017, 06:49:49 AM
Wow...This is an excellent artile written with the time lines, the players, where the money went to, what went down, and who plea bargained out to keep this from going to trial.  It almost reads out like a Tom Clansy movie.

A little long but well worth the reading. Enjoy you political junkies...... :thumbsup:

The Obama Administration's Uranium One Scandal

Let's put the Uranium One scandal in perspective: The cool half-million bucks the Putin regime funneled to Bill Clinton was five times the amount it spent on those Facebook ads — the ones the media-Democrat complex ludicrously suggests swung the 2016 presidential election to Donald Trump.

The Facebook-ad buy, which started in June 2015 — before Donald Trump entered the race — was more left-wing agitprop (ads pushing hysteria on racism, immigration, guns, etc.) than electioneering. The Clintons' own long-time political strategist Mark Penn estimates that just $6,500 went to actual electioneering. (You read that right: 65 hundred dollars.) By contrast, the staggering $500,000 payday from a Kremlin-tied Russian bank for a single speech was part of a multi-million-dollar influence-peddling scheme to enrich the former president and his wife, then–secretary of state Hillary Clinton. At the time, Russia was plotting — successfully — to secure U.S. government approval for its acquisition of Uranium One, and with it, tens of billions of dollars in U.S. uranium reserves.

Here's the kicker: The Uranium One scandal is not only, or even principally, a Clinton scandal. It is an Obama-administration scandal.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452972/uranium-one-deal-obama-administration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering

Yes, Clinton, Obama, Holder, Lynch, Rosenstein, and Mueller are all involved.  That is why I shook my head when Sessions appointed Rosenstein and Mueller.  What's his part?  Either he's party to all of this, or he knew he was going to eventually try to brig them down.  Maybe this was the bigger reason why he recused himself from the Trump/Russia investigation.  In retrospect, so should have Rosenstein and Mueller and they didn't.  In reading the entire article ... enter H.W. Bush into this scenario!

Title: Gowdy opens investigation
Post by: Hoofer on October 26, 2017, 10:17:32 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/10/24/its-on-gowdy-n2399599

QuoteHouse Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte announced Tuesday morning they have officially opened a joint investigation into decisions made at the Obama Justice Department surrounding the FBI's criminal investigation into former Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. They also want to know why the FBI kept quiet about ongoing investigations into members of the Trump campaign, like Paul Manafort, while publicly discussing the Clinton probe.

"Our justice system is represented by a blind-folded woman holding a set of scales. Those scales do not tip to the right or the left; they do not recognize wealth, power, or social status. The impartiality of our justice system is the bedrock of our republic and our fellow citizens must have confidence in its objectivity, independence, and evenhandedness. The law is the most equalizing force in this country. No entity or individual is exempt from oversight," Gowdy and Goodlatte released in a statement. "Decisions made by the Department of Justice in 2016 have led to a host of outstanding questions that must be answered."

Another show-n-tell that produces zero convictions.
Title: Re: Gowdy opens investigation
Post by: Solar on October 26, 2017, 01:43:53 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on October 26, 2017, 10:17:32 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/10/24/its-on-gowdy-n2399599

Another show-n-tell that produces zero convictions.
And what did the left learn from Gowdy? Take the 5th and you're Scott free.
Title: NDA lifted - Obama admin threatened whistle blower?
Post by: Hoofer on October 27, 2017, 05:23:12 AM
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/26/fbi-informants-lawyer-obama-admin-threatened-my-client-and-his-career/

QuoteThe FBI and Justice Department had previously blocked the informant from speaking with Congress or anyone else.

"The Russians have threatened him, and up until just last night the U.S. government has threatened him," Toensing told Coglianese during an interview on WMAL's "Mornings on the Mall."

"He was told that if he didn't dismiss the case his reputation and liberty were in jeopardy."

What would you expect from a wannabe communist?   Looking like corruption and thuggary from the Obama administration was common place!

http://freebeacon.com/politics/tom-perez-says-electoral-college-not-creation-constitution/
Quote"The Electoral College is not a creation of the Constitution," Perez said during a lecture at Indiana University Law School. "It doesn't have to be there."

The Electoral College, a mechanism for indirect election of the president created by the Founding Fathers as a compromise between smaller states and larger states, is clearly laid out in Article II of the Constitution: "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress."
Opps - sorry, I know it sounds like STUPIDITY...  but this is how corruption is allowed to fester, IMOThrough ignorance of the Constitution.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/conservatives-targeted-irs-celebrate-settlement/
QuoteMark Meckler, president of Citizens for Self-Governance, hailed the $3.5 million settlement that came "after years of stonewalling." Citizens for Self-Governance spearheaded a lawsuit brought by a coalition of conservative groups that were subjected to enhanced scrutiny from the IRS delaying their approval for non-profit status. The plaintiffs asserted that the agency unconstitutionally policed their freedom of speech and harmed their chances of raising money in order to punish the Obama administration's political opponents.

"We all know the IRS unconstitutionally target tea party groups to shut down their political speech in a violation of the First Amendment. That has been unequivocally proven by the statements of IRS employees," he said in a statement. "After years of stonewalling by the federal government, the litigation against the IRS for their unconstitutional behavior has been settled and the targeted groups will receive substantial payments."

The IRS did not respond to request for comment.
Lois Learner retired a free woman, with her pension intact - the problem is still walking the streets.   3.5 million is chump change, IMO.

This makes the Obama administration, and the former POTUS look like your 3rd world, communist dictator by using or allowing these tactics to be used while in office!   Robert Mueller sends in the shock troops to search Paul Manafort's home at daybreak, enters by breaking down the door - what's with these Democrats???  OH!   I almost forgot, is Mueller is up to his eyeballs with the Clintonistas too?
Title: Re: NDA lifted - Obama admin threatened whistle blower?
Post by: walkstall on October 27, 2017, 02:12:03 PM
Quote from: mrclose on October 27, 2017, 01:08:58 PM
Rumor has it that the reason Koskinen hasn't been fired is because they are allowing him to work enough years to retire with a full pension!


I AM SO SICK OF THIS $-#-!-T !  :cursing:



?????? 
Rumor
On the Political Discussion and Debate board.
Title: Re: NDA lifted - Obama admin threatened whistle blower?
Post by: Solar on October 27, 2017, 02:56:27 PM
Quote from: mrclose on October 27, 2017, 01:08:58 PM
Rumor has it that the reason Koskinen hasn't been fired is because they are allowing him to work enough years to retire with a full pension!


I AM SO SICK OF THIS $-#-!-T !  :cursing:
So did you start it just now? This is tyhe first I've heard of it.
For whatever reason, Trump has yet to fire the slimeball, and just might have something up his sleeve. We'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Washington Free Beacon funded original Fusion GPS anti-Trump opposition effort
Post by: taxed on October 27, 2017, 04:35:26 PM
Sounds like it was just general op research on all the GOP candidates...
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 27, 2017, 05:07:26 PM
It is being reported that Mueller is facing pressure to resign.  Seems to me that they should be pressuring Rosenstein as well ... he is part of the problem.  Sessions IMHO should go as well.

Let's bring in some new people that DO NOT have a connection to the Bush, Clinton or Obama administration. That's not going to be an easy task, and for the love of God, get rid of all the Obama holdovers!
Title: Re: Company linked to Trump-Russian dossier has its own Kremlin connection ..
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 27, 2017, 05:53:26 PM
There are more Russian connections to the democrats than to Trump. After a year the left is left with borscht on their faces.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on October 27, 2017, 06:03:13 PM
First charges filed in Mueller investigation


http://myfox8.com/2017/10/27/first-charges-filed-in-mueller-investigation/
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on October 27, 2017, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: mrclose on October 27, 2017, 06:35:41 PM
Probably Manafort.

Nothing to do with the Trump Russian investigation.

JMHO

Mueller has to give them something.  As my understand more and more are asking him to close up head hunting.
Title: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Hoofer on October 28, 2017, 06:19:55 AM
Pressure is mounting on Robert Mueller to deliver heads of the Trump administration - or Donald Trump himself, ASAP.
It's a no-brainer.   Mueller and Rod Rosenstein are both coming closer to being investigated for their connections to the Clinton Foundation, Bill's winfall speaking fee in Russia, and of course, that treasonous Uranium One deal that netted Putin 20% of our Uranium.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/27/mueller-facing-new-republican-pressure-to-resign-in-russia-probe.html
QuoteHill investigators also are looking into a Russian firm's uranium deal that was approved by the Obama administration in 2010 despite reports that the FBI – then led by Mueller – had evidence of bribery involving a subsidiary of that firm.

Critics question whether Mueller's own ties to the bureau as well as fired FBI director James Comey now render him compromised as he investigates allegations of Russian meddling and collusion with Trump officials in the 2016 race.

"The federal code could not be clearer – Mueller is compromised by his apparent conflict of interest in being close with James Comey," Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., who first called for Mueller to step down over the summer, said in a statement to Fox News on Friday. "The appearance of a conflict is enough to put Mueller in violation of the code. ... All of the revelations in recent weeks make the case stronger."

Outgoing New Jersey GOP Gov. Chris Christie, a former federal prosecutor and Trump ally, also suggested Friday that Mueller consider stepping aside.
Oh, I had to leave that last zinger in there, Crispie Creme Christie - well, hells-bells, if that doesn't ruin the GOP investigation, toss in a camera shy blimp-of-a-politician... sheeze!  Bad call, FOX!

When you hear "Watergate" thrown out as a comparison, remember it was the cover-up of a bad crime, a break in and rifling thru records - oh how horrible!!!   The MSM really inflated that one.
This is a wee-bit bigger...  Approving the sale of 20% of USA's Uranium to a hostile foreign government, curiously considing with a half-million-dollar speaking fee to the husband of a government employee, allegations of bribery by a hostile government agent, payment records a little murky...   Well, well, well.... what's going on here?  Oh, don't forget, how Robert Mueller landed his cushy job, his buddy, James Comey leaked and squirmed and begged the MSM to run off Jeff Sessions (still scratching my head on that one), and his buddy Rod Rosenstein should take over the fake Russian collusion investigation.  Oh, yeah, Sessions did say Rosenstein was impartial enough to investigate HIMSELF.   We have the script for a new TV series, the Keystone Kops, of F-Troop, starring Jeff Sessions.

One word summarizes Uranium One - Treasonous!  Cancel their passports immediately, and put them under 24hr watch... as a minimum!

Then there's Fusion GPS (..? Global Payment System?)...  this reminds me of that shell game, guess which one has the pea under it!
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/27/kimberley-strassel-fusion-gps-bombshells-have-just-begun-to-drop.html
QuoteThe answers are in Fusion's bank records. Fusion has doggedly refused to divulge the names of its clients for months now, despite extraordinary pressure. So why did the firm suddenly insist that middleman law firm Perkins Coie release Fusion from confidentiality agreements, and spill the beans on who hired it?

Because there's something Fusion cares about keeping secret even more than the Clinton-DNC news—and that something is in those bank records. The release of the client names was a last-ditch effort to appease the House Intelligence Committee, which issued subpoenas to Fusion's bank and was close to obtaining records until Fusion filed suit last week. The release was also likely aimed at currying favor with the court, given Fusion's otherwise weak legal case.

Typical in Democratic fashion, when you feel the heat coming, deflect it and turn on a flame-thrower of your own!
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/first-charges-issued-from-robert-muellers-investigation-report/article/2638863
QuoteMueller's team is also investigating former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort regarding foreign lobbying, and former national security adviser Mike Flynn, who provided disingenuous statements about his communications with Russian officials.

Subpoenas for documents and testimonies in the probe have been issued by the Mueller team, including from contacts of Manafort.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who is overseeing Mueller's probe, should have been informed of any charges prior to being presented to the grand jury for approval, via rules dictating special counsel investigations.
Hmmm.... lemme see, here... Jaywalking, Swearing in public, Disrespecting Queen Hillary, Parking Ticket, Library Book past due, littering a cigarette butt, Automobile Idling past 5 minutes... Altogether, that adds up to 3 years in prison, hard labor reading Chelsea's books to inmates.

Seriously now, you know damn well, they've found *something* minor, and when it's all spread out, the MSM will turn this pimple of lawbreaking into a 1st class Felony - or threaten "whoever" until they spill the "manufactured beans" on another Trump cabinet member.
You simply can't hire every Leftist in DC and come up empty-handed!   Ask yourself, "Was/Is the Mueller team READY to deliver, or being forced to deliver to keep this fiasco going a little longer?" - Democrat operatives bringing the heat, "Come on man!!!  Get us OFF the headlines!!!   We can't keep pumping up this Montana Whitefish Electrical thing - that's not a scandal, give us something - PLEASE!!!"

QuoteBut the Wall Street Journal editorial board cited the dossier development in calling for Mueller's resignation on Thursday, saying the "troubling question is whether the FBI played a role" in aiding a "Russian disinformation campaign."

"Two pertinent questions: Did the dossier trigger the FBI probe of the Trump campaign, and did Mr. Comey or his agents use it as evidence to seek wiretapping approval from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Trump campaign aides?" the editorial board wrote, before turning to Mueller's role:

"The Fusion news means the FBI's role in Russia's election interference must now be investigated—even as the FBI and Justice insist that Mr. Mueller's probe prevents them from cooperating with Congressional investigators. Mr. Mueller is a former FBI director, and for years he worked closely with Mr. Comey. It is no slur against Mr. Mueller's integrity to say that he lacks the critical distance to conduct a credible probe of the bureau he ran for a dozen years. He could best serve the country by resigning to prevent further political turmoil over that conflict of interest."

Another potential issue is Mueller's supervision of a bribery probe involving a subsidiary of Russia's Rosatom, which eventually got approval from the U.S. to buy a Canadian mining company that controlled a swath of American uranium reserves. At the time of the probe, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who appointed Mueller as special counsel, was a U.S. attorney and Mueller was FBI director. Republicans want to know how that deal was approved despite the evidence gathered in the bribery probe.

That last quote would have SUNK a GOP investigation.  No way in hell would the Democrats allow anything close to that, to continue.
But, leave it to the RINOs, those glittering lights of ignorance - who probably wished in secret, "How'd I miss out on that Uranium ONE deal...?"  Here we go, snatching DEFEAT from the jaws of Victory!
QuoteOther Republicans have sought to protect Mueller from interference.

There are currently two pieces of legislation in the Senate, with bipartisan sponsorship, that would ensure a judicial check on the executive branch's ability to remove a special counsel. Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Thom Tillis, R-N.C., are behind the bills, along with Democratic senators.

It's face-plant time, again.  Trump is being betrayed by the establishment, again...  Graham & Tillis may as well nominate Hillary for Sainthood.
Mueller will have all-the-time-in-the-world to deliver the goods and SAVE the Democratic chances for 2020 elections.  Hillary might win this time.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Hoofer on October 28, 2017, 06:34:40 AM
When your imagination is so limited, your best shot at the GOP is retelling your own corruption...

Sooner or later, you forget someone might connect the dots and find you standing there, guilty.
When this Trump / Russian collusion story surfaced, did ANYONE not think, "Wait a sec., they ought to be looking at the Clintons!"
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 28, 2017, 06:38:54 AM
Indeed.  Mueller has to deliver someone in order to save his own neck and to take the focus and bury Uranium One for good.  So (and this is purely my theory)... in order to save his own neck and make it impossible for Trump to fire him so he can continue to insulate himself, Rosenstein, Clinton and OBama; who would he indict?  My hunch is either Don Jr. or Kushner!  The indictment will turn into a media frenzy and the process will drag out for months if not at least until the 2018 elections.  If a member of Trump's own family is indicted it will make it next to impossible for Trump to fire Mueller, the investigation into Uranium One will be completely buried OR the story will now come out accusing Trump of being on a witch hunt for retaliation to his son or son-in-law being indicted.
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Solar on October 28, 2017, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on October 28, 2017, 06:19:55 AM
Pressure is mounting on Robert Mueller to deliver heads of the Trump administration - or Donald Trump himself, ASAP.
It's a no-brainer.   Mueller and Rod Rosenstein are both coming closer to being investigated for their connections to the Clinton Foundation, Bill's winfall speaking fee in Russia, and of course, that treasonous Uranium One deal that netted Putin 20% of our Uranium.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/27/mueller-facing-new-republican-pressure-to-resign-in-russia-probe.html  Oh, I had to leave that last zinger in there, Crispie Creme Christie - well, hells-bells, if that doesn't ruin the GOP investigation, toss in a camera shy blimp-of-a-politician... sheeze!  Bad call, FOX!

When you hear "Watergate" thrown out as a comparison, remember it was the cover-up of a bad crime, a break in and rifling thru records - oh how horrible!!!   The MSM really inflated that one.
This is a wee-bit bigger...  Approving the sale of 20% of USA's Uranium to a hostile foreign government, curiously considing with a half-million-dollar speaking fee to the husband of a government employee, allegations of bribery by a hostile government agent, payment records a little murky...   Well, well, well.... what's going on here?  Oh, don't forget, how Robert Mueller landed his cushy job, his buddy, James Comey leaked and squirmed and begged the MSM to run off Jeff Sessions (still scratching my head on that one), and his buddy Rod Rosenstein should take over the fake Russian collusion investigation.  Oh, yeah, Sessions did say Rosenstein was impartial enough to investigate HIMSELF.   We have the script for a new TV series, the Keystone Kops, of F-Troop, starring Jeff Sessions.

One word summarizes Uranium One - Treasonous!  Cancel their passports immediately, and put them under 24hr watch... as a minimum!

Then there's Fusion GPS (..? Global Payment System?)...  this reminds me of that shell game, guess which one has the pea under it!
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/27/kimberley-strassel-fusion-gps-bombshells-have-just-begun-to-drop.html
Typical in Democratic fashion, when you feel the heat coming, deflect it and turn on a flame-thrower of your own!
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/first-charges-issued-from-robert-muellers-investigation-report/article/2638863Hmmm.... lemme see, here... Jaywalking, Swearing in public, Disrespecting Queen Hillary, Parking Ticket, Library Book past due, littering a cigarette butt, Automobile Idling past 5 minutes... Altogether, that adds up to 3 years in prison, hard labor reading Chelsea's books to inmates.

Seriously now, you know damn well, they've found *something* minor, and when it's all spread out, the MSM will turn this pimple of lawbreaking into a 1st class Felony - or threaten "whoever" until they spill the "manufactured beans" on another Trump cabinet member.
You simply can't hire every Leftist in DC and come up empty-handed!   Ask yourself, "Was/Is the Mueller team READY to deliver, or being forced to deliver to keep this fiasco going a little longer?" - Democrat operatives bringing the heat, "Come on man!!!  Get us OFF the headlines!!!   We can't keep pumping up this Montana Whitefish Electrical thing - that's not a scandal, give us something - PLEASE!!!"

That last quote would have SUNK a GOP investigation.  No way in hell would the Democrats allow anything close to that, to continue.
But, leave it to the RINOs, those glittering lights of ignorance - who probably wished in secret, "How'd I miss out on that Uranium ONE deal...?"  Here we go, snatching DEFEAT from the jaws of Victory!

It's face-plant time, again.  Trump is being betrayed by the establishment, again...  Graham & Tillis may as well nominate Hillary for Sainthood.
Mueller will have all-the-time-in-the-world to deliver the goods and SAVE the Democratic chances for 2020 elections.  Hillary might win this time.
Good job Hoofer.
Early on, I kept questioning why Trump was keeping these people on, but now that I've had time to observe Trump in action, it appears he is using the leftists to his own advantage.
First, he lets them finish their investigation on him, knowing quite well they won't find a damn thing, then turn around and fire the entire lot of them in public shame and humiliate them in the process, this gives him a type of armor for any future claims of corruption.

Now start a real investigation, one that focuses on the real perpetrators, and that includes the RINO Establishment, expose the truth and make a stink about it, force the media to talk openly about it.
Remember, Trump has the power of Tweets, something the left and Establishment claim unpresidential, low for such an office, juvenile etc.
I've never fallen for the leftist narrative, it's the only way Trump is going to get past the leftist filters, is when he bypasses the left/Establishment.
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 28, 2017, 07:29:49 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 28, 2017, 07:06:50 AM
Good job Hoofer.
Early on, I kept questioning why Trump was keeping these people on, but now that I've had time to observe Trump in action, it appears he is using the leftists to his own advantage.
First, he lets them finish their investigation on him, knowing quite well they won't find a damn thing, then turn around and fire the entire lot of them in public shame and humiliate them in the process, this gives him a type of armor for any future claims of corruption.

Now start a real investigation, one that focuses on the real perpetrators, and that includes the RINO Establishment, expose the truth and make a stink about it, force the media to talk openly about it.
Remember, Trump has the power of Tweets, something the left and Establishment claim unpresidential, low for such an office, juvenile etc.
I've never fallen for the leftist narrative, it's the only way Trump is going to get past the leftist filters, is when he bypasses the left/Establishment.

Only problem is there won't be a "real investigation"; Mueller is going to make sure with this indictment that, that door is closed and the DEMS may very well win not only in 2018 but 2020 as well.  Trump made a huge mistake with not firing Rosenstein and Muller early on.  As for Sessions ... I still think he is going to be the cause of Trumps downfall.
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Hoofer on October 28, 2017, 07:31:14 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 28, 2017, 06:38:54 AM
Indeed.  Mueller has to deliver someone in order to save his own neck and to take the focus and bury Uranium One for good.  So (and this is purely my theory)... in order to save his own neck and make it impossible for Trump to fire him so he can continue to insulate himself, Rosenstein, Clinton and OBama; who would he indict?  My hunch is either Don Jr. or Kushner!  The indictment will turn into a media frenzy and the process will drag out for months if not at least until the 2018 elections.  If a member of Trump's own family is indicted it will make it next to impossible for Trump to fire Mueller, the investigation into Uranium One will be completely buried OR the story will now come out accusing Trump of being on a witch hunt for retaliation to his son or son-in-law being indicted.

Very good point!
I think you just layed out the Democrats ace-up-the-sleeve.   

Question remains, if the Democrats threaten Trump with nailing his kids - would Trump call their bluff and ignore it, or cave, back off & become a lame-duck POTUS?
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Solar on October 28, 2017, 07:40:01 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 28, 2017, 07:29:49 AM
Only problem is there won't be a "real investigation"; Mueller is going to make sure with this indictment that, that door is closed and the DEMS may very well win not only in 2018 but 2020 as well.  Trump made a huge mistake with not firing Rosenstein and Muller early on.  As for Sessions ... I still think he is going to be the cause of Trumps downfall.
In what reality does this work?
And how is he supposed to pull off this magic act? It's not up to Mueller where the investigation progresses, nor where it ends, especially after concluding Trump was not involved.
All that happens is Mueller's investigation ends and another begins and he'll have no say what happens after the fact, because he failed to produce evidence connecting Trump.
That's when a new investigation begins.
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Hoofer on October 28, 2017, 08:00:16 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 28, 2017, 07:06:50 AM
Good job Hoofer.
Early on, I kept questioning why Trump was keeping these people on, but now that I've had time to observe Trump in action, it appears he is using the leftists to his own advantage.
First, he lets them finish their investigation on him, knowing quite well they won't find a damn thing, then turn around and fire the entire lot
of them in public shame and humiliate them in the process, this gives him a type of armor for any future claims of corruption.

Now start a real investigation, one that focuses on the real perpetrators, and that includes the RINO Establishment, expose the truth and make a stink about it, force the media to talk openly about it.
Remember, Trump has the power of Tweets, something the left and Establishment claim unpresidential, low for such an office, juvenile etc.
I've never fallen for the leftist narrative, it's the only way Trump is going to get past the leftist filters, is when he bypasses the left/Establishment.
(thanks, you're pretty darn good at it too!)

Wow...  If Trump planned it this way... naaa, it would have been Bannon, IMO.  I wouldn't want to play Chess with these guys, if they plan that far ahead!   Which further convinces me, Jeff Sessions will exit.   Doesn't matter how great the guy is as a Attorney General, this *still* looks like a major blunder to appoint Rod Rosenstein Deputy Attorney General, just a question of TIMING... when, but not why.

So... what you're postulating, Trump, knowning he couldn't count on the GOPe to help him, laid an enormous net, taking Sessions as "bait" and guess who walks into it, 2 of the players who would connect all the dots.  ...and, as a bonus, a few more get sucked in from the edges.  The bottom line, if it'd work, follow-the-money-trail and along the way, pick off the other players until you find the Clintons at the end of the Rainbow, sitting on a pot of Russian Rubles.  ...er, was Trump playing the Dems *all* these years???  Staying a Dem insider, donating & keeping them in good graces ... for this?

Ever wonder why Hillary Clinton is so PISSED she LOST?  Why she is PERSISTING and not going away?  Why the Democrats can't get her to LEAVE?   Just follow the money... I got a feeling, it'll connect more than just non-elected establishment politicians & lawyers, but eventually lead to high ranking Democrats, including Obama.

Could Hillary have BLACKMAIL material to keep Schumer, Pelosi, Obama... "mum"?  Remember, Hillary and the Dems *expected* to win the White House.  It would have kept all these tracks & corruption covered forever.  In contend, when the first deeply entwined insider cracks and cuts a deal to save themselves ... it's gonna be big, bad & juicy.
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Solar on October 28, 2017, 08:19:42 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on October 28, 2017, 08:00:16 AM
  (thanks, you're pretty darn good at it too!)

Wow...  If Trump planned it this way... naaa, it would have been Bannon, IMO.  I wouldn't want to play Chess with these guys, if they plan that far ahead!   Which further convinces me, Jeff Sessions will exit.   Doesn't matter how great the guy is as a Attorney General, this *still* looks like a major blunder to appoint Rod Rosenstein Deputy Attorney General, just a question of TIMING... when, but not why.

So... what you're postulating, Trump, knowning he couldn't count on the GOPe to help him, laid an enormous net, taking Sessions as "bait" and guess who walks into it, 2 of the players who would connect all the dots.  ...and, as a bonus, a few more get sucked in from the edges.  The bottom line, if it'd work, follow-the-money-trail and along the way, pick off the other players until you find the Clintons at the end of the Rainbow, sitting on a pot of Russian Rubles.  ...er, was Trump playing the Dems *all* these years???  Staying a Dem insider, donating & keeping them in good graces ... for this?

Ever wonder why Hillary Clinton is so PISSED she LOST?  Why she is PERSISTING and not going away?  Why the Democrats can't get her to LEAVE?   Just follow the money... I got a feeling, it'll connect more than just non-elected establishment politicians & lawyers, but eventually lead to high ranking Democrats, including Obama.

Could Hillary have BLACKMAIL material to keep Schumer, Pelosi, Obama... "mum"?  Remember, Hillary and the Dems *expected* to win the White House.  It would have kept all these tracks & corruption covered forever.  In contend, when the first deeply entwined insider cracks and cuts a deal to save themselves ... it's gonna be big, bad & juicy.
Something like that. Remember, Trump knew full well this was all a lie, and an investigation would not only hit a dead end, but expose a trail to follow when a new special counsel is appointed.

A special counsel investigation would possibly take about nine months to complete, and depending on just when an investigation begins could mean the end of leftist careers in both party's as Midterms edge closer.
Trump is the one in charge now, not the left and given the time elapsed, Trump will have appointed new blood to his Cabinet and Administration.
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 28, 2017, 02:57:02 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 28, 2017, 07:40:01 AM
In what reality does this work?
And how is he supposed to pull off this magic act? It's not up to Mueller where the investigation progresses, nor where it ends, especially after concluding Trump was not involved.
All that happens is Mueller's investigation ends and another begins and he'll have no say what happens after the fact, because he failed to produce evidence connecting Trump.
That's when a new investigation begins.

Ok ... let's say another investigation into Uranium One begins.  In Grassley's infinite wisdom he wants a 'special investigation' started ... that's worked so well in the past right??  The DOJ is still so corrupt there's no way that anything is going to happen to Clinton/Obama -- Trump had is chance to fire both Rosenstein and Muller and he blew that chance.  Right now Mueller is protecting himself and his bosses by selecting someone to accuse from the Trump team, and the media will fully oblige by making this the media sensation of the decade. All the while allowing the DEMS to buy more time to bury evidence, lie and deny to the public and make Uranium One look like a Trump witch hunt against Clinton.  Come on here...this is what Clinton does best ... lie, deny and blame the other side for something she did. 

IMHO this is now a full blown fued as to which side is going to prevail in this chess match ... looks like Trump is running out of moves.
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Solar on October 28, 2017, 03:04:09 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 28, 2017, 02:57:02 PM
Ok ... let's say another investigation into Uranium One begins.  In Grassley's infinite wisdom he wants a 'special investigation' started ... that's worked so well in the past right??  The DOJ is still so corrupt there's no way that anything is going to happen to Clinton/Obama -- Trump had is chance to fire both Rosenstein and Muller and he blew that chance.  Right now Mueller is protecting himself and his bosses by selecting someone to accuse from the Trump team, and the media will fully oblige by making this the media sensation of the decade. All the while allowing the DEMS to buy more time to bury evidence, lie and deny to the public and make Uranium One look like a Trump witch hunt against Clinton.  Come on here...this is what Clinton does best ... lie, deny and blame the other side for something she did. 

IMHO this is now a full blown fued as to which side is going to prevail in this chess match ... looks like Trump is running out of moves.
Here's how I see it. Trump was forced into accepting this fake investigation, if at any time along the way he was to interfere or "Fire" someone, the left would use it as proof Trump is hiding something. Are you getting a mental image yet?
So he left the left follow through, knowing all the time they won't make a single connection, and in the end being forced to concede, Trump had zero connection to Russians, at the same time the left is facing the fact it was all a lie, an investigation is taking place on Clinton and the Dim circus under the banner of "Uranium One".

So like Sun Tzu explains, never interfere with your enemy when he is committing suicide.
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 28, 2017, 03:05:18 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on October 28, 2017, 07:31:14 AM
Very good point!
I think you just layed out the Democrats ace-up-the-sleeve.   

Question remains, if the Democrats threaten Trump with nailing his kids - would Trump call their bluff and ignore it, or cave, back off & become a lame-duck POTUS?

Here's my take on that question.  I believe Don Jr. is innocent and Trump knows it and will call their bluff.  I believe Trump found out that his son-in-law is corrupt, two-face and can't be trusted; and will see this as being a disloyal family member; Trump's not going to back off and become a lame-duck POTUS.  Daddy's princess will have to deal with it. Jared and Ivanka will be asked to leave the West Wing, which isn't going to bother a whole lot of people anyways.
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 28, 2017, 03:43:24 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 28, 2017, 03:04:09 PM
Here's how I see it. Trump was forced into accepting this fake investigation, if at any time along the way he was to interfere or "Fire" someone, the left would use it as proof Trump is hiding something. Are you getting a mental image yet?
So he left the left follow through, knowing all the time they won't make a single connection, and in the end being forced to concede, Trump had zero connection to Russians, at the same time the left is facing the fact it was all a lie, an investigation is taking place on Clinton and the Dim circus under the banner of "Uranium One".

So like Sun Tzu explains, never interfere with your enemy when he is committing suicide.

Sure I follow your theory and I agree up to the point of the investigation of Clinton and the Dim circus ... the investigation IMHO will go nowhere because those investigating are part of that corruption.
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: walkstall on October 28, 2017, 06:18:32 PM
Quote from: mrclose on October 28, 2017, 04:24:39 PM
Take this as you will:

LS is Larry Earl Schweikart (born April 21, 1951 in Mesa, Arizona) an American historian and professor of history at the University of Dayton.

He is the author of more than a dozen scholarly and popular fiction books; his best known popular book is A Patriot's History of the United States , coauthored with Michael Allen.

According to professors Guy Burton and Ted Goertzel, "Schweikart and Allen are both history professors with distinguished publication records."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Schweikart


IF LS is Larry Earl Schweikart and he said this then you should have not problem with showing his quote.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 28, 2017, 07:20:21 PM
Already being buried and as Clinton herself claimed "debunked".

The Hillary Clinton Russia Uranium One Conspiracy Theory Doesn't Make Any Sense


.............Conservative media outlets have been circulating theories about the deal for years, and Donald Trump even brought it up while campaigning for the presidency. Trump claimed that Clinton "approved the transfer of 20 percent of America's uranium holdings to Russia, while nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation."

The Hill article sent such coverage into overdrive. Lou Dobbs ran a segment on his Fox Business show under the banner "Russia Collusion" and featuring a photo of Clinton the day the story was published. Trump hyped the theory again several times in the past week, calling the deal a "modern-day Watergate" and the "real Russia story."

The guilt by association theory centers on Clinton's role on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS). The committee reviews deals that would transfer to foreign ownership companies that might be sensitive to national security.

According to the conspiracy theory, Clinton received money from several people affiliated with the uranium mine deal, and then pushed the CFIUS to approve it in return.

The problem is, that's not how CFIUS works. Clinton's vote would have been only one of nine, as the reviews are run by the Treasury Department and other Cabinet secretaries get to weigh in.

"The secretary of state is one, and frankly not usually a very powerful, member of the committee," said Steve Grundman, a fellow at the Atlantic Council who dealt with CFIUS reviews while serving in the Pentagon in the 1990s. "You have to remember with CFIUS, the first letter stands for the committee."

Also, Cabinet secretaries almost never deal with the committee themselves, instead delegating to underlings. For Clinton, that delegate was the assistant secretary of state for economic and business affairs, Jose Fernandez.

"Secretary Clinton never intervened with me on any CFIUS matter," Fernandez told Time in 2015. Two former State Department officials who served under Clinton told Newsweek that Clinton would have been notified of a CFIUS decision only if there were disagreement among members of the committee, which would push a final decision to the president. The CFIUS decision on the Uranium One deal, however, was unanimous—all nine representatives agreed to approve it............

According to the experts, even if Clinton had somehow managed to tilt the CFIUS decision in favor of Russian buyers, it wouldn't matter: The mine isn't very important.

The Russian-owned company does not have a license to export the uranium, and the actual mining process is not sensitive at all.

"It's just a mine," Lewis said. "There's no technology that's special. There's no shortage of uranium around the world."

Also, the deal took place during a period when the U.S. was trying to rebuild economic ties to Russia after Clinton and President Barack Obama initiated a "reset" with that country. The U.S. was buying helicopters from Russia for Afghanistan's army, as well as rockets for U.S. satellite programs. It was a time before Russia had invaded Ukraine and meddled in the U.S. election........

http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-conspiracy-theory-distraction-trump-russia-694525
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: walkstall on October 28, 2017, 09:27:25 PM
Quote from: mrclose on October 28, 2017, 08:35:08 PM
It's him.

I don't 'normally' like to post links to other forums but since you insist .. scroll down the page, (at link) you'll find it.


He has been a member of FR for almost 18 years.




So what your saying it is hear say from some other board.  Not a quote from  Larry Earl Schweikart himself.   
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Solar on October 29, 2017, 06:20:22 AM
Quote from: mrclose on October 28, 2017, 08:35:08 PM
It's him.

I don't 'normally' like to post links to other forums but since you insist ..
Then Don't!!!
If you can't find the information your own, what makes you think another forum like ours did?
Either source your claims from original sources, or don't post it!
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Hoofer on October 29, 2017, 07:00:52 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 28, 2017, 03:43:24 PM
Sure I follow your theory and I agree up to the point of the investigation of Clinton and the Dim circus ... the investigation IMHO will go nowhere because those investigating are part of that corruption.
Tend to agree...  based on the Trey Gowdy media circuses, which yielded .... crickets.
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Hoofer on October 29, 2017, 07:22:17 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 29, 2017, 06:20:22 AM
Then Don't!!!
If you can't find the information your own, what makes you think another forum like ours did?
Either source your claims from original sources, or don't post it!

Yeah, an opinion of an opinion, of another opinion of an opinion, of an opinion of a source...  makes good material for humor.
I don't mind commenting on "news quotes" (the source) and occasionally "news reporters" to show BIAS - but, are we really *wise* to become an "Info-Boars" style forum?

Simply put, once the reputation is known, it's pretty darn hard to change it.   That 12am to 5am radio talk show, which covers at least 50% of the airwaves with the most outlandish, freakish, occultic, whacko, alien stuff... does *anyone* take them SERIOUSLY?
Or "Before-It's-News-it-was-dropped" style site - if that stuff was printed, I'd be afraid to line a bird cage with it.

Solar & Walks are trying to increase your credibility as a poster, get it from the source, you'll be more believable.


Speaking of credibility - CNN has been *almost* delivering the story... except, their reporters are good-ole-boys with Fusion GPS!
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/28/cnns-undisclosed-ties-to-fusion-gps/
QuoteCNN's reporting on the Trump-Russia dossier has left out at least one crucial fact: the close ties between the network and the opposition research firm at the center of the dossier controversy.

CNN's reporting on the dossier, led by justice correspondent Evan Perez, has been favorable to the firm, Fusion GPS, and hyped the dossier's credibility. Left out of Perez's reporting, which has relied largely on unnamed sources, is his personal closeness to Fusion GPS' operatives. Fusion has repeatedly been described in Senate testimonies as a smear-for-hire operation that manufactures misleading or false media narratives for its clients.

Glenn Simpson, the Fusion co-founder most often associated with the dossier, is used to working on stories with Perez. As reporters at The Wall Street Journal, Perez and Simpson regularly co-authored stories on national security.

Another Fusion founder, Tom Catan, worked as a reporter for the Journal at the same time as Perez and Simpson. The third Fusion co-founder, Peter Fritsch, worked above Perez and Simpson as the senior national security editor.

Simpson and Fritsch left the WSJ in 2011 to launch Fusion. Perez jumped from the paper to CNN in 2013. Another longtime Journal reporter, Neil King, left the paper to join Fusion in December 2016.

Well, it might help knowing the source to get the story, but... if you want to remain fishing buddies, eh.. you might ignore a Jack Ass's steaming pile, behind him!
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Solar on October 29, 2017, 07:52:00 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on October 29, 2017, 07:22:17 AM
Yeah, an opinion of an opinion, of another opinion of an opinion, of an opinion of a source...  makes good material for humor.
I don't mind commenting on "news quotes" (the source) and occasionally "news reporters" to show BIAS - but, are we really *wise* to become an "Info-Boars" style forum?

Simply put, once the reputation is known, it's pretty darn hard to change it.   That 12am to 5am radio talk show, which covers at least 50% of the airwaves with the most outlandish, freakish, occultic, whacko, alien stuff... does *anyone* take them SERIOUSLY?
Or "Before-It's-News-it-was-dropped" style site - if that stuff was printed, I'd be afraid to line a bird cage with it.

Solar & Walks are trying to increase your credibility as a poster, get it from the source, you'll be more believable.


Speaking of credibility - CNN has been *almost* delivering the story... except, their reporters are good-ole-boys with Fusion GPS!
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/28/cnns-undisclosed-ties-to-fusion-gps/
Well, it might help knowing the source to get the story, but... if you want to remain fishing buddies, eh.. you might ignore a Jack Ass's steaming pile, behind him!
It tends to go beyond frustrating when for 7 years, it has been policy to not post innuendo or rumor, and still people insist upon doping it baffles my mind.
What part of "Fact-Based Forum" do people not freakin get?
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Solar on October 29, 2017, 07:59:08 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 28, 2017, 03:43:24 PM
Sure I follow your theory and I agree up to the point of the investigation of Clinton and the Dim circus ... the investigation IMHO will go nowhere because those investigating are part of that corruption.
For Now!
What part of"Patience" did you not get?
Let this BS play out and produce nothing substantial, and that's when "Special Counsel" is appointed, beyond the reach of political agenda.
They have no choice, the only other option is to throw out the Republic and end the country.

Do you seriously think that's going to happen?
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 29, 2017, 08:15:11 AM
Trump calls for investigation into Clinton ties to dossier

President Trump on Sunday lashed out in a series of tweets over the ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and what he termed a "lack of investigation" into Hillary Clinton.

"Never seen such Republican ANGER & UNITY as I have concerning the lack of investigation on Clinton made Fake Dossier," Trump tweeted.

"Instead they look at phony Trump/Russia 'collusion,' which doesn't exist. The Dems are using this terrible (and bad for our country) Witch Hunt for evil politics, but the R's are now fighting back like never before. There is so much GUILT by Democrats/Clinton, and now the facts are pouring out. DO SOMETHING!" Trump tweeted.

The president's outrage on Sunday was apparently prompted by a Washington Post report earlier this week that a lawyer working for Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund an unverified dossier that contains allegations about Trump and his ties to Russia as well as more salacious charges.

Trump claimed the dossier cost $12 million which is apparently a reference to the amount the law firm Perkins Coie was paid to represent the Clinton campaign and the DNC during the 2016 campaign.  Perkins Coie retained the firm Fusion GPS to conduct research on Trump, but the law firm did a variety of other work for Clinton and the DNC.

Trump also listed an Obama-era Uranium One deal with Russia, the loss of some of Clinton's emails during her tenure as secretary of State, and "the Comey fix," apparently meaning FBI Director James Comey's decision to clear Clinton of charges during the election, as sources of outrage.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/357700-trump-calls-for-investigation-into-clinton-russia-ties
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: walkstall on October 29, 2017, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 29, 2017, 07:52:00 AM
It tends to go beyond frustrating when for 7 years, it has been policy to not post innuendo or rumor, and still people insist upon doping it baffles my mind.
What part of "Fact-Based Forum" do people not freakin get?


My point was we are not like other board.  We work hard to have people come for the truth.  In doing so it helps keep out the trolls.  Now I have been posting on boards for over 25+ years.  I had my ass handed to more then once in my younger years of posting for not being able to back up what I posted.   25 years of posting does not make me right. 
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: Solar on October 29, 2017, 08:47:48 AM
Quote from: walkstall on October 29, 2017, 08:42:03 AM

My point was we are not like other board.  We work hard to have people come for the truth.  In doing so it helps keep out the trolls.  Now I have been posting on boards for over 25+ years.  I had my ass handed to more then once in my younger years of posting for not being able to back up what I posted.   25 years of posting does not make me right.
It's what separates Conservatives from libs, knowing what you post can be challenged.
It's that critical thinking equation that gives us the edge over the left, they function on innuendo and feelings, while we base our arguments in fact.
This really pisses off the left big time, it makes debating us a near impossibility.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 29, 2017, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: mrclose on October 29, 2017, 02:48:40 PM
Enough of the 'source' crap!

I gave the source of the comment but I'm guessing that you (and others) are upset that LS didn't 'source' HIS source?

You don't expect him to give out that info do you!

As for 'another board' finding info that 'other boards' can't or don't find ... with  half a million users (a million a while back) and a number of them being within government, courts, talk shows (radio and tv) there is often insider news broken there!

Not all news items are broken by known people on mainstream news sites!

Some are actually broken on forums!

FR became known to many when it  got involved in getting Bill Clinton impeached and the Bush/Florida recount fiasco.

People like Jim Robinson, Matt Drudge, Bob Barr, Gary Aldrich, Alan Keyes, Larry Klayman, Lucianne Goldberg, Billy Dale many others spoke at, organized and attended Free Republic's nationally televised rally supporting Clinton's impeachment on October 31, 1998.



====================

Below is the post that started this whole nasty .. "Show the source or Don't show another board's source!"

Which I did.

Again, comprehension should have come into play before 'this' was posted!


Not only did I provide a screenshot of Larry's comment .. I gave the link to his posting history and a way to contact the man by giving the link to his http://www.rockinthewall.com page!

Email the guy!
He always gets back to you IF you're able to pen a decent letter!

Either some of you don't bother to actually read and comprehend the questions and the given answers or .. some of you are just becoming ruder as you age!
I really don't care what you think you were going after, we Do Not source other forums, because they are forums, just like other forums don't source us, because, like them, we are not the original source for news.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 29, 2017, 06:37:25 PM
Good grief  .... where's the referee when we need one?      :popcorn:

Hopefully Monday we'll know who's in handcuffs.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on October 29, 2017, 07:06:47 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 29, 2017, 06:37:25 PM
Good grief  .... where's the referee when we need one?      :popcorn:

Hopefully Monday we'll know who's in handcuffs.

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I came for The Palace of Mean.™       If he would like to start his own board I have no problem with that.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 30, 2017, 03:54:11 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 29, 2017, 06:37:25 PM
Good grief  .... where's the referee when we need one?      :popcorn:
andcuffs.
You call?
Though, most know me as, Judge, Jury, and Hangman.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on October 30, 2017, 05:09:11 AM
FNC just reported that Manafort and an associate are the one's to be indicted. Mueller had to do something. This is not the end, but just the beginning.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 30, 2017, 05:20:22 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on October 30, 2017, 05:09:11 AM
FNC just reported that Manafort and an associate are the one's to be indicted. Mueller had to do something. This is not the end, but just the beginning.
Yep, the left just shot their wad, now it's our turn to take the field.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on October 30, 2017, 06:59:40 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on October 30, 2017, 05:09:11 AM
FNC just reported that Manafort and an associate are the one's to be indicted. Mueller had to do something. This is not the end, but just the beginning.

Paul Manafort, Rick Gates Charged In Special Prosecutor's Probe

snip~
Former Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and his longtime business associate Rick Gates were indicted by a federal grand jury on 12 charges, including conspiracy against the U.S., Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office announced Monday.

Other charges against Manafort and Gates include money laundering, being an unregistered foreign agent and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts.


more @
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/paul-manafort-rick-gates-told-surrender-special-prosecutor-probe-n815536
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Hoofer on October 30, 2017, 07:13:32 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 30, 2017, 05:20:22 AM
Yep, the left just shot their wad, now it's our turn to take the field.
I concur...   Apparently all the charges are Pre-Trump and no mention of Russian collusion...?  (so says the news on WMAL this morning).

Here's the challenge for MSNBC, CNN hacks:  Milk this for all it's worth, keep the Democrats OFF the headlines, exonerate Hillary, Obama, etc., ok, it's LIE and create as much fake or semi-fake news as you can - just protect your political party!!!
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on October 30, 2017, 07:43:13 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on October 30, 2017, 07:13:32 AM
I concur...   Apparently all the charges are Pre-Trump and no mention of Russian collusion...?  (so says the news on WMAL this morning).

Here's the challenge for MSNBC, CNN hacks:  Milk this for all it's worth, keep the Democrats OFF the headlines, exonerate Hillary, Obama, etc., ok, it's LIE and create as much fake or semi-fake news as you can - just protect your political party!!!



But, but he work for Trump.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 30, 2017, 07:53:24 AM
Quote from: walkstall on October 30, 2017, 06:59:40 AM
Paul Manafort, Rick Gates Charged In Special Prosecutor's Probe

snip~
Former Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and his longtime business associate Rick Gates were indicted by a federal grand jury on 12 charges, including conspiracy against the U.S., Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office announced Monday.

Other charges against Manafort and Gates include money laundering, being an unregistered foreign agent and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts.


more @
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/paul-manafort-rick-gates-told-surrender-special-prosecutor-probe-n815536
We now have precedent for the Clinton connection.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on October 30, 2017, 09:28:30 AM
The indictment...

A PDF file.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4163388/Manafort-Gates-Indictment-Filed-and-Redacted.pdf
Title: Re: Mueller better deliver!
Post by: taxed on October 30, 2017, 10:01:57 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 28, 2017, 02:57:02 PM
Ok ... let's say another investigation into Uranium One begins.  In Grassley's infinite wisdom he wants a 'special investigation' started ... that's worked so well in the past right??  The DOJ is still so corrupt there's no way that anything is going to happen to Clinton/Obama -- Trump had is chance to fire both Rosenstein and Muller and he blew that chance.  Right now Mueller is protecting himself and his bosses by selecting someone to accuse from the Trump team, and the media will fully oblige by making this the media sensation of the decade. All the while allowing the DEMS to buy more time to bury evidence, lie and deny to the public and make Uranium One look like a Trump witch hunt against Clinton.  Come on here...this is what Clinton does best ... lie, deny and blame the other side for something she did. 

IMHO this is now a full blown fued as to which side is going to prevail in this chess match ... looks like Trump is running out of moves.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, the Dems have him right where they want him...........
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Bronx on October 30, 2017, 11:14:05 AM
Something tells me this fake dossier arrow is turning into a real boomerang.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Hoofer on October 30, 2017, 11:28:38 AM
Quote from: Bronx on October 30, 2017, 11:14:05 AM
Something tells me this fake dossier arrow is turning into a real boomerang.
That is the problem with projecting your guilt.  When a real investigation is launched, the guy they intended to smear is innocent (Trump), and you're standing in the middle of the guilty (Hillary, Obama, Powers, Learner, etc., etc., etc., etc.,).

I guessing... Right about -now- the MSM is burning up the phone lines, trying to get Clinton and company out of the War Room, so they can get the "spin" right.  Meanwhile, Clinton & company are desperately working on a story(s) to gently guide Mueller's investigators *away* from the obvious offenders, themselves!  Calling in anyone with any knowledge or connection to this and warning them, "See all those bodies littering our path the WH?!?!  there's room for one more who can't keep their mouth shut!"
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: nzone on October 30, 2017, 11:44:54 AM
Want to bet that Mueller will somehow lead this to a TRUMP impeachment move. All he needs are a tie to TRUMP somehow and he will make up FAKE Charges. Give the HOUSE and SENATE to vote TRUMP out of office and nothing would please them more. TRUMP should appoint a special proscutor to investigate the BEAST, Obama Uranium deal and he better do it quick. He cannot use JEFFIE because well you all know that story. Maybe someone outside like Christie or RUDY ? Both would luv to nail their ass but if TRUMP does nothing look for this to somehow be a impeachment opportunity on TRUMP. JMO :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on October 30, 2017, 12:05:24 PM
Quote from: nzone on October 30, 2017, 11:44:54 AM
Want to bet that Mueller will somehow lead this to a TRUMP impeachment move. All he needs are a tie to TRUMP somehow and he will make up FAKE Charges. Give the HOUSE and SENATE to vote TRUMP out of office and nothing would please them more. TRUMP should appoint a special proscutor to investigate the BEAST, Obama Uranium deal and he better do it quick. He cannot use JEFFIE because well you all know that story. Maybe someone outside like Christie or RUDY ? Both would luv to nail their ass but if TRUMP does nothing look for this to somehow be a impeachment opportunity on TRUMP. JMO :rolleyes:

I believe you are really getting ahead of yourself. The left is in no way looking for ways to get Trump right now. They are in full CYA mode. The more Mueller digs the more dirt he will find on the left. It cannot be ignored.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 30, 2017, 12:26:42 PM
Quote from: nzone on October 30, 2017, 11:44:54 AM
Want to bet that Mueller will somehow lead this to a TRUMP impeachment move. All he needs are a tie to TRUMP somehow and he will make up FAKE Charges. Give the HOUSE and SENATE to vote TRUMP out of office and nothing would please them more. TRUMP should appoint a special proscutor to investigate the BEAST, Obama Uranium deal and he better do it quick. He cannot use JEFFIE because well you all know that story. Maybe someone outside like Christie or RUDY ? Both would luv to nail their ass but if TRUMP does nothing look for this to somehow be a impeachment opportunity on TRUMP. JMO :rolleyes:
Wow, talk about baseless conspiracy crap.
First off, Trump can't appoint Special Council. Second, all of this happened to the guy almost a decade before Trump ran for office, not to mention, Trump is the man with the pardon pen, so why would he want to falsely implicate Trump in any made up bull shit?

Do me a favor, use some critical thought, then check and see if your theories even have a shot in reality before posting. we have a conspiracy forum for this very kind of nonsense.
Remember, you represent the forum when you post, so please, don't force me to review your every post for sanity before releasing it to the public, because I will if I have to.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 30, 2017, 01:13:49 PM
Quote from: nzone on October 30, 2017, 11:44:54 AM
Want to bet that Mueller will somehow lead this to a TRUMP impeachment move. All he needs are a tie to TRUMP somehow and he will make up FAKE Charges. Give the HOUSE and SENATE to vote TRUMP out of office and nothing would please them more. TRUMP should appoint a special proscutor to investigate the BEAST, Obama Uranium deal and he better do it quick. He cannot use JEFFIE because well you all know that story. Maybe someone outside like Christie or RUDY ? Both would luv to nail their ass but if TRUMP does nothing look for this to somehow be a impeachment opportunity on TRUMP. JMO :rolleyes:

Grassley has called for a special investigation.  Trump needs to FIRE Rosenstein and Sessions. He made a mistake in not firing Mueller a long time ago.  Krispy Kreme is out of the realm of possibility as he helped to prosecute Jared's pappy.  Rudy, has been accused of leaking Clinton e-mails during Trump's campaign so he's out of the picture as well.

I've said it before, he needs Ted Cruz in his corner right now and he needs to appoint him as AG.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 30, 2017, 01:16:44 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on October 30, 2017, 11:28:38 AM
That is the problem with projecting your guilt.  When a real investigation is launched, the guy they intended to smear is innocent (Trump), and you're standing in the middle of the guilty (Hillary, Obama, Powers, Learner, etc., etc., etc., etc.,).

I guessing... Right about -now- the MSM is burning up the phone lines, trying to get Clinton and company out of the War Room, so they can get the "spin" right.  Meanwhile, Clinton & company are desperately working on a story(s) to gently guide Mueller's investigators *away* from the obvious offenders, themselves!  Calling in anyone with any knowledge or connection to this and warning them, "See all those bodies littering our path the WH?!?!  there's room for one more who can't keep their mouth shut!"

Agreed ... the Mueller indictments give the Clinton/Obama team time to do some side shuffling and knock some people into line.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 30, 2017, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: mrclose on October 29, 2017, 02:48:40 PM
Enough of the 'source' crap!


"Source Crap"???  Sorry, but I with all due respect .... this isn't your forum and therefore you aren't responsible.  The owner of this forum IS responsible for content and what is posted.  Just sayin'. I don't always like the answers or rebuttals in here to what I post, but I do post here because I like getting a different perspective and a different opinion.  Secondly, I try to back my opinion with citing my source of information. 
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Possum on October 30, 2017, 02:43:30 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 30, 2017, 01:13:49 PM
Grassley has called for a special investigation.  Trump needs to FIRE Rosenstein and Sessions. He made a mistake in not firing Mueller a long time ago.  Krispy Kreme is out of the realm of possibility as he helped to prosecute Jared's pappy.  Rudy, has been accused of leaking Clinton e-mails during Trump's campaign so he's out of the picture as well.

I've said it before, he needs Ted Cruz in his corner right now and he needs to appoint him as AG.
Here's another way to look at it, mueller probably went to court with all he had. it ain't much. If he is counting on them to "spill the beans" he has forgotten the main facts from his 9 months investigation and that is there ain't no beans to spill. If mueller was even close to finding anything of value, there would have been leaks all over the lsm, that is how the liberals "prove" it is true, but there were no leaks damaging to Trump. What I find amusing is the liberals are not celebrating this shallow victory, could it be because all the leaks have been about hillary??
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on October 30, 2017, 04:10:42 PM
I like the head lines that try to make it look like Trump had ties.   :cursing:

Secret Guilty Plea of Ex-Trump Adviser Reveals Russian Ties NBC 

Top News
Secret Guilty Plea of Ex-Trump Adviser Reveals Russian Ties.

Then when you open it up you get this.

Ex-Trump Adviser George Papadopoulos Pleads Guilty in Mueller's Russia Probe


more @
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-campaign-adviser-george-papadopoulos-pleads-guilty-lying-n815596
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Bronx on October 30, 2017, 05:25:28 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on October 30, 2017, 11:28:38 AM
That is the problem with projecting your guilt.  When a real investigation is launched, the guy they intended to smear is innocent (Trump), and you're standing in the middle of the guilty (Hillary, Obama, Powers, Learner, etc., etc., etc., etc.,).

I guessing... Right about -now- the MSM is burning up the phone lines, trying to get Clinton and company out of the War Room, so they can get the "spin" right.  Meanwhile, Clinton & company are desperately working on a story(s) to gently guide Mueller's investigators *away* from the obvious offenders, themselves!  Calling in anyone with any knowledge or connection to this and warning them, "See all those bodies littering our path the WH?!?!  there's room for one more who can't keep their mouth shut!"

I think you might be onto something here Hoofer. The dems are already telling each other to keep the focus off of this investigation knowing it will boomerang right back at them.

Ohio Democrat Party Warns: Stop Talking About Mueller Investigation, Stick to Real Issues

READ MORE......
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/30/ohio-democrat-party-warns-stop-talking-mueller-investigation-stick-real-issues/
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Hoofer on October 30, 2017, 07:52:46 PM
Quote from: Bronx on October 30, 2017, 05:25:28 PM
I think you might be onto something here Hoofer. The dems are already telling each other to keep the focus off of this investigation knowing it will boomerang right back at them.

Ohio Democrat Party Warns: Stop Talking About Mueller Investigation, Stick to Real Issues

READ MORE......
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/30/ohio-democrat-party-warns-stop-talking-mueller-investigation-stick-real-issues/
As a former Liberal...  some things just make sense, self preservation.. at all costs - demand an underling fall-on-the-sword (regardless of how innocent or faithful they are), demand a fair hearing (devoid of the convicting facts), leverage every MSM outlet to clear-your-good-name (ie, call in favors for future access & ad buys), deflect, deflect, deflect, not-as-bad-as, was-singled-out, settled-long-ago, gave-the-money-back, my-record-speaks-for-itself, the-real-criminal-is (fill in the blank, Racist, Traitor, Sexist, Bigot, Homophobic, KKK, etc).

The Democrats have already used every angle in the playbook for decades, like tax cuts will bankrupt the government, women & children hit hardest.  It really SUCKS for them, the Hillary loss, changed the entire landscape - they know it, and there's nobody but a bunch of insiders embedded in the various departments... holding Hillary, Obama & his administration in their hands like a fragile egg.
If I were the GOP... I'd start going after those career seeking embedded folks, the ones with the "records", and squeeze them like Mueller has been squeezing Manifort.   A couple of them crack, and it's all over.

Hence, Hillary & Obama & company is probably calling the 'troops' and just sort of "checking in"... "Hello, how's it going, are you happy with your job?  You remember who placed you there, right?  Yeah, we've been thinking about you, I'll send you a couple of tickets for a Football game on the 50 yard line..."  Meh.. easy to get football tickets lately, eh!?   Between the phone calls, just imagine...  "What's the latest from Mueller?   OH?  Crap, he keeps turning up indictment stuff on us - tell that SOB to quit leaking to the press before we get our story straight & circulate it to our insiders - OK!?"   They probably would be working down the list, checking off the faithful, putting heat on the fence-sitters, and threatening the fallen-from-grace.  Count on it, they are working the phones!

Where's Barak Obama?   I guess his handlers have him chained down & gagged, "If he goes off-script, he's likely to throw Hillary under-the-bus, and she & Bill will unload on us!!!   Just shut-the-hell-up, Barry, smoke another doobie."   I think they believe, he is honor-less, and would be first in line to stab Hillary in the back - if it meant saving his skin -or- the DNC.  Should something like THAT happen, and you can guess the entire Obama Administration is paying close attention to Obama, "Is my old boss gonna ask me to fall on the sword, or just stick it in me...?  hmmmm....".   Obama has a lot of MONEY, so do the Clintons ... for such a situation like this, when they need a "volunteer".

Lest anyone forget, Don Jr., who backed out of that set-up meeting...  That guy showed keen business sense, getting the hell-out-of-there, before it could have been blown up into a regretful event.  Hollywood people are too stupid & short-sighted, look what's happening to those serial perverts.  Did they just cancel Kevin Spacey's big series.. for some accusation a decade ago?   Don & Eric are telling "us" they've got a good name from Dad, and they want to keep it that way.  All it takes is ONE screwup to ruin decades of a stellar reputation.  Don & Eric seem to be better at it than Dad, and determined to learn from his past.  Donald Trump has a couple of smart boys, IMO.

Yep, it really SUCKS when your enemy is popular, and his loyalists' faith can't be shaken...  going negative only makes him stronger!?!?

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Title: Gowdy: The Battle Is Not Just With House Democrats…It’s Also With the DOJ
Post by: Ms.Independence on October 31, 2017, 03:50:59 AM
Gee ... perhaps the understatement of the year!  Trump's DOJ seems indeed to be just as corrupt as Obama's. I sure as heck hope Trump has held on to his AG and deputy AG for a reason.  If not, then in my humble opinion, he has opened up the great possibility of he himself undergoing false charges big league.  Members of the establishment from his own party have objected to him firing them and now Limpy is coming forward with stern warnings to Trump about Mueller.

Gowdy: The Battle Is Not Just With House Democrats...It's Also With the Department of Justice

House Democrats "want all the facts" in the Trump-Russia investigation, "except who financed the dossier," Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, told "Fox News Sunday."

Gowdy also complained about the Trump Justice Department, saying it's no different than the Obama Justice Department when it comes to "transparency.".......

........it's sometimes hard to tell the difference between the Obama Department of Justice and the current Department of Justice in terms of transparency and their willingness to share information with Congress.

"This is a really simple request. Did you rely on the dossier? And if so, did you vet it before you relied upon it? You can answer that in 30 seconds," Gowdy said. "But it's taken three months for the Department of Justice, and only recently have they agreed to give us the information.".........

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/gowdy-battle-not-just-house-democrats-its-also-department-justice

Lindsey Graham: There 'will be holy hell to pay' if Trump fires Mueller


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/30/lindsey-graham-there-will-be-holy-hell-to-pay-if-trump-fires-mueller.html
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on October 31, 2017, 04:16:16 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on October 30, 2017, 07:52:46 PM
As a former Liberal...  some things just make sense, self preservation.. at all costs - demand an underling fall-on-the-sword (regardless of how innocent or faithful they are), demand a fair hearing (devoid of the convicting facts), leverage every MSM outlet to clear-your-good-name (ie, call in favors for future access & ad buys), deflect, deflect, deflect, not-as-bad-as, was-singled-out, settled-long-ago, gave-the-money-back, my-record-speaks-for-itself, the-real-criminal-is (fill in the blank, Racist, Traitor, Sexist, Bigot, Homophobic, KKK, etc).

The Democrats have already used every angle in the playbook for decades, like tax cuts will bankrupt the government, women & children hit hardest.  It really SUCKS for them, the Hillary loss, changed the entire landscape - they know it, and there's nobody but a bunch of insiders embedded in the various departments... holding Hillary, Obama & his administration in their hands like a fragile egg.
If I were the GOP... I'd start going after those career seeking embedded folks, the ones with the "records", and squeeze them like Mueller has been squeezing Manifort.   A couple of them crack, and it's all over.

Hence, Hillary & Obama & company is probably calling the 'troops' and just sort of "checking in"... "Hello, how's it going, are you happy with your job?  You remember who placed you there, right?  Yeah, we've been thinking about you, I'll send you a couple of tickets for a Football game on the 50 yard line..."  Meh.. easy to get football tickets lately, eh!?   Between the phone calls, just imagine...  "What's the latest from Mueller?   OH?  Crap, he keeps turning up indictment stuff on us - tell that SOB to quit leaking to the press before we get our story straight & circulate it to our insiders - OK!?"   They probably would be working down the list, checking off the faithful, putting heat on the fence-sitters, and threatening the fallen-from-grace.  Count on it, they are working the phones!

Where's Barak Obama?   I guess his handlers have him chained down & gagged, "If he goes off-script, he's likely to throw Hillary under-the-bus, and she & Bill will unload on us!!!   Just shut-the-hell-up, Barry, smoke another doobie."   I think they believe, he is honor-less, and would be first in line to stab Hillary in the back - if it meant saving his skin -or- the DNC.  Should something like THAT happen, and you can guess the entire Obama Administration is paying close attention to Obama, "Is my old boss gonna ask me to fall on the sword, or just stick it in me...?  hmmmm....".   Obama has a lot of MONEY, so do the Clintons ... for such a situation like this, when they need a "volunteer".

Lest anyone forget, Don Jr., who backed out of that set-up meeting...  That guy showed keen business sense, getting the hell-out-of-there, before it could have been blown up into a regretful event.  Hollywood people are too stupid & short-sighted, look what's happening to those serial perverts.  Did they just cancel Kevin Spacey's big series.. for some accusation a decade ago?   Don & Eric are telling "us" they've got a good name from Dad, and they want to keep it that way.  All it takes is ONE screwup to ruin decades of a stellar reputation.  Don & Eric seem to be better at it than Dad, and determined to learn from his past.  Donald Trump has a couple of smart boys, IMO.

Yep, it really SUCKS when your enemy is popular, and his loyalists' faith can't be shaken...  going negative only makes him stronger!?!?

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Don't sell Obama short. He is a smart cookie and operating below the radar screen. He is pulling all the strings.
Title: Re: Gowdy: The Battle Is Not Just With House Democrats…It’s Also With the DOJ
Post by: walkstall on October 31, 2017, 04:21:02 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on October 31, 2017, 03:50:59 AM
Gee ... perhaps the understatement of the year!  Trump's DOJ seems indeed to be just as corrupt as Obama's. I sure as heck hope Trump has held on to his AG and deputy AG for a reason.  If not, then in my humble opinion, he has opened up the great possibility of he himself undergoing false charges big league.  Members of the establishment from his own party have objected to him firing them and now Limpy is coming forward with stern warnings to Trump about Mueller.

Gowdy: The Battle Is Not Just With House Democrats...It's Also With the Department of Justice

House Democrats "want all the facts" in the Trump-Russia investigation, "except who financed the dossier," Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, told "Fox News Sunday."

Gowdy also complained about the Trump Justice Department, saying it's no different than the Obama Justice Department when it comes to "transparency.".......

........it's sometimes hard to tell the difference between the Obama Department of Justice and the current Department of Justice in terms of transparency and their willingness to share information with Congress.

"This is a really simple request. Did you rely on the dossier? And if so, did you vet it before you relied upon it? You can answer that in 30 seconds," Gowdy said. "But it's taken three months for the Department of Justice, and only recently have they agreed to give us the information.".........

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/gowdy-battle-not-just-house-democrats-its-also-department-justice

Lindsey Graham: There 'will be holy hell to pay' if Trump fires Mueller


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/30/lindsey-graham-there-will-be-holy-hell-to-pay-if-trump-fires-mueller.html

From what I can see Gowdy is all blow and no go himself.  He has dropped the ball more then once as chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee in my book.  Hello Pot!
Title: Re: Gowdy: The Battle Is Not Just With House Democrats…It’s Also With the DOJ
Post by: nzone on October 31, 2017, 05:04:34 AM
Quote from: walkstall on October 31, 2017, 04:21:02 AM
From what I can see Gowdy is all blow and no go himself.  He has dropped the ball more then once as chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee in my book.  Hello Pot!

Very True, Gowdy all talk and NO go in anything. He loves the spotlight and seeing himself on TV. People like GOWDY is why nothing gets done in Liarland. Next to him Issa likely to try and  one up him and about to say something to get the spotlight.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Gowdy: The Battle Is Not Just With House Democrats…It’s Also With the DOJ
Post by: Solar on October 31, 2017, 05:45:12 AM
I knew the rino was behind this. They're thick as thieves with the leftists.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Hoofer on October 31, 2017, 06:09:44 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on October 31, 2017, 04:16:16 AM
Don't sell Obama short. He is a smart cookie and operating below the radar screen. He is pulling all the strings.
Not selling him short at all, I'm suggesting he's narcissistic, itching to get into a fight - his handlers would be holding him back, planning, plotting.. the final demise of of the thorn in the side of the Democrats, the end of the Clintons.   It'd be a NEW DAY for Democrats - the day Bill and Hillary are swept aside, IMO.   Hillary's usefulness has almost ended, time for her to 'take one for the team', and show the world the Democratic Party is cleansed of evil.

I'd like to suggest Barak is the new leader of the Democratics, but, he's a puppet to Soros & ?.  There is no reasonable explanation for his rise to power, with zero accomplishments, the guy became POTUS...?   He has his handlers.   Geeze.... I'm starting to sound like Alex Jones - Timeout for me.
Title: Re: Gowdy: The Battle Is Not Just With House Democrats…It’s Also With the DOJ
Post by: Hoofer on October 31, 2017, 06:14:44 AM
Quote from: walkstall on October 31, 2017, 04:21:02 AM
From what I can see Gowdy is all blow and no go himself.  He has dropped the ball more then once as chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee in my book.  Hello Pot!
He's just good on the silver screen.  Like a hollywood fantasy, a movie, an actor, playing the part of Prosecutor.
Sure felt good there for a minute, but like the movie, it ended, and we're scratching our heads, "why are these criminals still loose?"
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 31, 2017, 07:08:14 AM
So who is the Freebeacon?

Then it was that the Washington Free Beacon, a neocon website, engaged a firm of researchers called Fusion GPS to do deep dirt-diving into Trump's personal and professional life – and take him out.

A spinoff of Bill Kristol's The Weekly Standard, the Beacon is run by his son-in-law. And its Daddy Warbucks is the GOP oligarch and hedge-fund billionaire Paul Singer.

From October 2015 to May 2016, Fusion GPS dug up dirt for the neocons and never-Trumpers. By May, however, Trump had routed all rivals and was the certain Republican nominee.

So the Beacon bailed, and Fusion GPS found two new cash cows to finance its dirt-diving – the DNC and the Clinton campaign.

To keep the sordid business at arm's length, both engaged the party's law firm of Perkins Coie. Paid $12.4 million by the DNC and Clinton campaign, Perkins used part of this cash hoard to pay Fusion GPS.
http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/that-other-plot-to-bring-down-trump/
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 31, 2017, 11:08:23 AM
Hussein's advisor on Uranium heist was an Islamic activist...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l26YbGLgyT0
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 31, 2017, 11:15:30 AM
Quote from: taxed on October 31, 2017, 11:08:23 AM
Hussein's advisor on Uranium heist was an Islamic activist...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l26YbGLgyT0
I want to know how much money did the taxpayer get for the uranium deal? Looks like all the profit went to the DNC and Clinton's.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 31, 2017, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 31, 2017, 11:15:30 AM
I want to know how much money did the taxpayer get for the uranium deal? Looks like all the profit went to the DNC and Clinton's.

That's a point Levin made last night... In this entire deal, what did the US get?
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 31, 2017, 11:18:07 AM
Levin completely shredded these clowns last night:

https://audioboom.com/posts/6443550-10-30-17-mark-levin-audio-rewind

A few charges are past their statute of limitations, and points like if this was such a crime, why didn't Muller bring charges years ago? 
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 31, 2017, 11:19:02 AM
Quote from: taxed on October 31, 2017, 11:16:09 AM
That's a point Levin made last night... In this entire deal, what did the US get?
Yes, it appears as if the Clinton's saw this as their very own to sell off to the highest bidder.
Gee, seems like an investigation is in order, just keep Gowdy as far away from it as possible, I want actual results, and not allowing these scum to take the First as a bailout.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on October 31, 2017, 02:36:16 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 31, 2017, 11:19:02 AM
Yes, it appears as if the Clinton's saw this as their very own to sell off to the highest bidder.
Gee, seems like an investigation is in order, just keep Gowdy as far away from it as possible, I want actual results, and not allowing these scum to take the First as a bailout.

Gowdy is picking out a new haircut as we speak....  he's camera-ready...
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on October 31, 2017, 02:47:40 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 31, 2017, 02:36:16 PM
Gowdy is picking out a new haircut as we speak....  he's camera-ready...
:biggrin:
Oh, kind of like polishing a turd?
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 31, 2017, 06:19:36 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 31, 2017, 02:36:16 PM
Gowdy is picking out a new haircut as we speak....  he's camera-ready...

That's not a haircut. That's a misadventure.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on November 02, 2017, 06:12:42 AM
Interesting that after the indictment(s) by Mueller; there seems to be little reporting now on any Clinton corruption (Uranium One - Benghazi) of which Mueller is a party to!  I tend to agree with Tom Fitton - Mueller is out of control and President Trump needs to FIRE him now and I say he needs to go further and FIRE Rosenstein & Sessions.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/tom-fitton-shut-mueller-investigation-control/
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on November 02, 2017, 11:14:44 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 02, 2017, 06:12:42 AM
Interesting that after the indictment(s) by Mueller; there seems to be little reporting now on any Clinton corruption (Uranium One - Benghazi) of which Mueller is a party to!  I tend to agree with Tom Fitton - Mueller is out of control and President Trump needs to FIRE him now and I say he needs to go further and FIRE Rosenstein & Sessions.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/tom-fitton-shut-mueller-investigation-control/

I'm not worried about Mueller at all.  There's too much light on him for them to pull anything.  Congress is now involved, and they probably aren't happy about this scandal being withheld from them by the FBI.  People will continue to jump the Clinton ship and spill the beans.  Even Comey has a book coming out.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on November 02, 2017, 11:57:14 AM
I am disappointed that DOJ does not seem to be holding the FBI accountable. After all the FBI works for the DOJ.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on November 02, 2017, 12:00:55 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 02, 2017, 11:57:14 AM
I am disappointed that DOJ does not seem to be holding the FBI accountable. After all the FBI works for the DOJ.

I really do think they're on top of it and have to keep quiet for now...
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on November 02, 2017, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: taxed on November 02, 2017, 12:00:55 PM
I really do think they're on top of it and have to keep quiet for now...
That's what I think. The FBI is still packed full of Obozo appointees that can still raise havoc, so Trump is biding his time till he can purge a few more, which is why he's considering suspending the Unions, so he can fire the dead weight without issue.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on November 03, 2017, 06:01:52 AM
Don't hold your breath waiting for further investigation of Clinton/Obama Uranium One and don't expect anything to become of the Clinton dossier issue.  Jeff Sessions stated during his confirmation hearing that he would recuse himself from any investigation of Clinton that might emerge.

Trump needs to fire Sessions now.  The only ongoing investigations that he seems to be conducting are those surrounding his boss!

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1345/appoint-special-prosecutor-investigate-hillary-cli/
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on November 03, 2017, 06:21:29 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 03, 2017, 06:01:52 AM
Don't hold your breath waiting for further investigation of Clinton/Obama Uranium One and don't expect anything to become of the Clinton dossier issue.  Jeff Sessions stated during his confirmation hearing that he would recuse himself from any investigation of Clinton that might emerge.

Trump needs to fire Sessions now.  The only ongoing investigations that he seems to be conducting are those surrounding his boss!

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1345/appoint-special-prosecutor-investigate-hillary-cli/
Just because Sessions recused himself, in no way stops anyone from moving forward, as in the Deputy AG, Congress etc.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on November 03, 2017, 11:34:31 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 03, 2017, 06:21:29 AM
Just because Sessions recused himself, in no way stops anyone from moving forward, as in the Deputy AG, Congress etc.

??? Ok, but the Deputy AG, is Rosenstein who was appointed by Sessions.  Rosenstein is to me more of a concern than even Sessions, because Rosenstein worked under both Clinton and Obama.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on November 03, 2017, 11:43:28 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 03, 2017, 11:34:31 AM
??? Ok, but the Deputy AG, is Rosenstein who was appointed by Sessions.  Rosenstein is to me more of a concern than even Sessions, because Rosenstein worked under both Clinton and Obama.
Both of which will most likely be gone after the midterms, if not sooner.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on November 03, 2017, 12:59:31 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 03, 2017, 11:43:28 AM
Both of which will most likely be gone after the midterms, if not sooner.

The sooner the better ... IF (and I know this is a big if) Trump were to appoint a new AG and in turn he were to appoint a new Deputy AG and one of them were to do a full blown investigation into Clinton/Obama Uranium One and the dossiers and actually indict her and or him before the 2018 mid terms, could you imagine the GOP turn out at the mid terms?  I believe the figures would be the largest turn out ever in history for any mid term.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on November 03, 2017, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 03, 2017, 12:59:31 PM
The sooner the better ... IF (and I know this is a big if) Trump were to appoint a new AG and in turn he were to appoint a new Deputy AG and one of them were to do a full blown investigation into Clinton/Obama Uranium One and the dossiers and actually indict her and or him before the 2018 mid terms, could you imagine the GOP turn out at the mid terms?  I believe the figures would be the largest turn out ever in history for any mid term.
Right now, the biggest obstacle to Trump replacing any leftist in his Administration, is the gop'E.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on November 03, 2017, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 03, 2017, 05:20:22 PM
Right now, the biggest obstacle to Trump replacing any leftist in his Administration, is the gop'E.

Agreed.  Trump's biggest obstacle IS the GOPe.  I find it interesting that the DEMS were in such opposition to Sessions in the nomination hearings; I believe it was then or shortly thereafter, that he was bought.  But, in all fairness to Trump, months ago he mentioned that he wanted to get rid of Sessions ... he should have listened to himself.  If I recall, Limpy Graham threw a tantrum at the time.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on November 03, 2017, 06:26:38 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 03, 2017, 05:50:11 PM
Agreed.  Trump's biggest obstacle IS the GOPe.  I find it interesting that the DEMS were in such opposition to Sessions in the nomination hearings; I believe it was then or shortly thereafter, that he was bought.  But, in all fairness to Trump, months ago he mentioned that he wanted to get rid of Sessions ... he should have listened to himself.  If I recall, Limpy Graham threw a tantrum at the time.
Exactly, the gop'E threatened Trump if he fired the whole lot of them, Grahmnasty leading the pack.
I believe the Dim's opposition to Sessions appointment was all part of the leftist show produced by the Establishment.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Ms.Independence on November 04, 2017, 06:27:56 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 03, 2017, 06:26:38 PM
Exactly, the gop'E threatened Trump if he fired the whole lot of them, Grahmnasty leading the pack.
I believe the Dim's opposition to Sessions appointment was all part of the leftist show produced by the Establishment.

That could very well be, but that leads me back to my very first question; why, oh why did Trump appoint Sessions in the first place?  I'm leaning towards ... Trump maybe part of the very swamp he proclaims to be draining and was nothing more than a siphon for the DEMS during the campaign.  If you recall Sessions was defending Cruz on illegal immigration and then suddenly jumped to team Trump.   

Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on November 04, 2017, 06:35:48 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 04, 2017, 06:27:56 AM
That could very well be, but that leads me back to my very first question; why, oh why did Trump appoint Sessions in the first place?  I'm leaning towards ... Trump maybe part of the very swamp he proclaims to be draining and was nothing more than a siphon for the DEMS during the campaign.  If you recall Sessions was defending Cruz on illegal immigration and then suddenly jumped to team Trump.

We have to remember the pool of true conservatives in Washington is very small. Once we get past Cruz, Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows where are the conservatives in congress? Hopefully Trump will begin to recognize the frauds and take action. However, I believe the priorities should be filling the judge positions and executive positions.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on November 04, 2017, 12:12:00 PM
FBI turns over Clinton investigation docs to Congress...

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/358762-fbi-turns-over-new-clinton-investigation-documents-to-congress

I think I heard the boat snap in half.....
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on November 04, 2017, 12:35:07 PM
Quote from: taxed on November 04, 2017, 12:12:00 PM
FBI turns over Clinton investigation docs to Congress...

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/358762-fbi-turns-over-new-clinton-investigation-documents-to-congress

I think I heard the boat snap in half.....

What half, the black out half?  We know from the last 8 years the FBI don't give out everything.   So what are they holding back, as the FBI has been in front of congress and did not tell the truth.  Do I think the FBI will do the right thing now.  NO WAY IN HELL!
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Hoofer on November 07, 2017, 03:44:46 PM
Quote from: walkstall on November 04, 2017, 12:35:07 PM
What half, the black out half?  We know from the last 8 years the FBI don't give out everything.   So what are they holding back, as the FBI has been in front of congress and did not tell the truth.  Do I think the FBI will do the right thing now.  NO WAY IN HELL!

You just nailed it.  The FBI & DOJ have credibility issues - all by design.  Put a Marxist in the White House, and the plan to destroy confidence in the American Capitalist system is rolled out.   Harass businesses and individuals, restrict the free market system with regulations & investigations, create an air of distrust in every facet of the political system, from the Police Officer to the Attorney General.

Donald Trump can only do so much, but he's already done MORE than I expected, even with a silly slogan, MAGA.   It resonates, gives us hope, something we can work for.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Hoofer on November 11, 2017, 05:31:23 AM
I wonder if the DOJ is inching closer and closer to the obvious, here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-podestas-washingtons-powerful-political-brother-act/2017/11/10/04bf1f6e-c4a6-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html?utm_term=.c8e9a8d0afb9
QuoteNow Tony's work for a Ukrainian nonprofit group is part of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's Russia investigation, prompting the powerful lobbyist to resign from the Podesta Group, the firm he founded three decades ago.

"I didn't leave with a sense of tragedy or regret about anything I had done," Tony said nonchalantly in an interview last week. "I thought it was better for the clients and better for the people in the office for me to get out of there."

OK, so the guy is still smiling.   Remember when the MSM & DNC operatives were hell-bent on the Koch brothers.. who are not really all that conservative to begin with, but evil, pure evil?

QuoteThey've become a particular fixation for President Trump, who has repeatedly attacked the two in tweets and interviews. On the eve of his current trip to Asia, he told reporters he was "disappointed" that the Justice Department was not investigating Hillary Clinton and her advisers instead of him: "Honestly they should be looking at the Democrats, they should be looking at Podesta and all of that dishonesty."

Meanwhile, Fox News is calling the Podesta brothers "central figures" in the Mueller probe.

Actually it's the toughest task the MSM has - how to avoid, ignore and eventually cover-up the crimes of their allies!   Maybe they got their own "war room", floating ideas and calling the Podesta brothers, "Hey, John... If we said Donna Brazille was really behind the Ukranian & Russian election ...  Oh?  nevermind...  wait, you mean Debbie Wasserman-shultz might be remotely connected to that Dossier?"
Man-o-man, it's gotta take a lot of imagination to come up with a plausible fairy-tale - not to mention the guts to publish it!

Well, the article goes on to describe the humble roots and liberal successes...
QuoteFrom this background, colored by the Vietnam War and the political upheavals of the 1960s and '70s, emerged two men with a shared passion for liberal issues and a weakness for losing candidates: They worked for Gene McCarthy, Edmund Muskie, George McGovern and many more. "We weren't doing it to go to the White House," Tony says. "We were doing it because we believed in what we were doing."

Opsie, forgot to mention Hillary Clinton, or... does she still have a shot, 3rd time is the charm?
How many times do you have to LOSE at something, before you realize, "Meh, this isn't for me..".
I guess that's answered with, "It pays the bills!  Besides, look at how RICH Hillary has gotten as a LOSER!"
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: taxed on November 18, 2017, 01:40:11 PM
Looks like the FBI informant has some good information:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-18/fbi-informant-has-video-russian-agents-briefcases-bribe-money-clinton-uranium-scanda

QuoteAn undercover FBI informant in the Russian nuclear industry who was made to sign an "illegal NDA" by former AG Loretta Lynch, claims to have video evidence showing Russian agents with briefcases full of bribe money related to the controversial Uranium One deal – according to The Hill investigative journalist John Solomon and Circa's Sara Carter.

The informant, whose identity was revealed by Reuters as William D. Campbell, will testify before congress next week after the NDA which carried the threat of prison time was lifted. Campbell, originally misidentifed by Reuters as a lobbyist is actually a nuclear industry consultant who is currently battling cancer.

As previously reported, Campbell was deeply embedded in the Russian nuclear industry where he gathered extensive evidence of a racketeering scheme involving bribes and kickbacks.

"The Russians were compromising American contractors in the nuclear industry with kickbacks and extortion threats, all of which raised legitimate national security concerns. And none of that evidence got aired before the Obama administration made those decisions," a person who worked on the case told The Hill, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution by U.S. or Russian officials.
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: walkstall on November 18, 2017, 02:19:07 PM
Will the cancer kill him or will he some how commit suicide, before he can testify.   He will be naming people with money and power. 
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Hoofer on November 21, 2017, 05:48:22 PM
Quote from: walkstall on November 18, 2017, 02:19:07 PM
Will the cancer kill him or will he some how commit suicide, before he can testify.   He will be naming people with money and power.
At that political level, and this kind of public exposure.. knocking him off would call for a real specialist.   I wonder if witness protection could keep him safe.  :thumbdown:  They publish the guy's name, you have to wonder if he's already being "hunted".
Title: Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
Post by: Solar on November 21, 2017, 06:33:16 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on November 21, 2017, 05:48:22 PM
At that political level, and this kind of public exposure.. knocking him off would call for a real specialist.   I wonder if witness protection could keep him safe.  :thumbdown:  They publish the guy's name, you have to wonder if he's already being "hunted".
I have a pretty good idea they've already secured his statement, so killing him off would only make matters worse for the left.