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Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2017, 01:13:10 PM »
I think they need to be replaced immediately; but the problem is going to be from this point forward, that Trump will have to move mountains and need a small miracle to get the votes needed to replace them.  In that respect, I don't see Trump winning at all -- check mate. This story hasn't hit the MSM so there's no outcry from the public.   I'm guessing that perhaps they might even go as far now as to try and impeach him and 2018 will be business as usual.  The only one who seems to try to be helping right now is Grassley and Bannon.  Everyone else is very quiet.
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Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2017, 01:15:04 PM »
I've not been a fan of Trump, and felt for a very long time he ran to siphon the conservative vote away from Cruz and to help out his buddy Hillary. Admittedly he's done some good things, but right now, I believe what he does from this point forward with the information he's had will be all telling.  Obamacare wasn't repealed, the wall still hasn't been built, and taxes are being worked on.  Has he put on a horse and pony show all along with lots of smoke and mirrors or is he legitimately trying to turn things around?
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Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2017, 01:30:21 PM »
I've not been a fan of Trump, and felt for a very long time he ran to siphon the conservative vote away from Cruz and to help out his buddy Hillary. Admittedly he's done some good things, but right now, I believe what he does from this point forward with the information he's had will be all telling.  Obamacare wasn't repealed, the wall still hasn't been built, and taxes are being worked on.  Has he put on a horse and pony show all along with lots of smoke and mirrors or is he legitimately trying to turn things around?
He's working against two separate hostile entities, Pubs and Dims, and IMO maneuvering expertly well, considering.
The RINO want him to fail so they can force their agenda, the Dims want him to fail for obvious reasons, and no, there will never be an Impeachment, that's mere distraction to make him look as if he is somehow the epitome of evil.

All I can say is turn off the TV, the crap you're hearing is designed to create doubt, but again, I can't stress enough, midterms will be a game changer and Trump will be able to move about more freely after we win.
Oh, and you mention tax cut budget? The media is spinning this in the RINO favor, saying "if they pass a tax cut, that will be enough to quell the base."
Really, that's all we want? That's the narrative of a failed Congress, that all they have to do is one little thing, and all their inept activity prior, will magically be forgiven by the base.

Well, that's total Bull Shit, this is their way of feeding it pork, placing the onus on Trump to sign whatever piece of shit Legislation they send him, then claiming victory.
Trump is on no way Conservative, but to be honest, I can't see where Cruz could have faired any better with two leftist party's Hell bent on destroying his Presidency either.

Our best bet is to back Trump and call out the GOP and stand firm on gutting the party of Marxists.
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Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2017, 02:11:01 PM »
He's working against two separate hostile entities, Pubs and Dims, and IMO maneuvering expertly well, considering.
The RINO want him to fail so they can force their agenda, the Dims want him to fail for obvious reasons, and no, there will never be an Impeachment, that's mere distraction to make him look as if he is somehow the epitome of evil.

All I can say is turn off the TV, the crap you're hearing is designed to create doubt, but again, I can't stress enough, midterms will be a game changer and Trump will be able to move about more freely after we win.
Oh, and you mention tax cut budget? The media is spinning this in the RINO favor, saying "if they pass a tax cut, that will be enough to quell the base."
Really, that's all we want? That's the narrative of a failed Congress, that all they have to do is one little thing, and all their inept activity prior, will magically be forgiven by the base.

Well, that's total Bull Shit, this is their way of feeding it pork, placing the onus on Trump to sign whatever piece of shit Legislation they send him, then claiming victory.
Trump is on no way Conservative, but to be honest, I can't see where Cruz could have faired any better with two leftist party's Hell bent on destroying his Presidency either.

Our best bet is to back Trump and call out the GOP and stand firm on gutting the party of Marxists.

Except for watching an occasional movie and a soap opera (yep I'll admit to it), I don't watch TV; I read various different articles, do a little research and come to my own conclusions. I have always doubted Trump; ever since he relentlessly attacked Cruz and spent very little time attacking his supposed true opponent Hillary.  All things considering, Cruz would have faced an uphill battle as well, but I still believe he would have done a better job; strictly my opinion.

I have given Trump credit when I believe it has been due.  As for 2018; Bannon is trying to help unseat the incumbents that McConnell and swamp are trying to retain.  Trump actually trying to fire Sessions and bring this matter front and center is what he should be doing; it would IMO give him and conservatives running the credibility needed that the swamp is indeed being drained and conservative voters who haven't voted in a long time because of their disgust with the GOP might just decide to vote again.  It certainly would give reassurance that he is on our side and not the side of the establishment.  Time will tell.
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Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2017, 02:47:09 PM »
I've not been a fan of Trump, and felt for a very long time he ran to siphon the conservative vote away from Cruz and to help out his buddy Hillary. Admittedly he's done some good things, but right now, I believe what he does from this point forward with the information he's had will be all telling.  Obamacare wasn't repealed, the wall still hasn't been built, and taxes are being worked on.  Has he put on a horse and pony show all along with lots of smoke and mirrors or is he legitimately trying to turn things around?


It my be just me, but some times you sound like Snowflake.  You went it all right now.  Think back when you and your other half started out.  you got one or two things at a time, or you were up to debt on your charge cards  Remember Trump is not a politician first but a business man.  All in do time.
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Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2017, 03:06:39 PM »

It my be just me, but some times you sound like Snowflake.  You went it all right now.  Think back when you and your other half started out.  you got one or two things at a time, or you were up to debt on your charge cards  Remember Trump is not a politician first but a business man.  All in do time.

Ok ... I'll shrug off the fact that you called me a Snowflake ... thanks for the insult!!  Ok ... so what do you think is going to happen if Trump doesn't do anything and Sessions let's this slide; so far he has refused to lift the gag order.  Clinton and cronies continue to get away with whatever they want just as they have for decades.  I don't think waiting decades for the Clintons to finally be held responsible is being overly impatient.  I get your point, but in the past it seems that giving the Clintons any leeway allows the time to manuever, lie, deceive and wriggle out of responsibility, regardless of cost.
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Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2017, 03:09:35 PM »
Except for watching an occasional movie and a soap opera (yep I'll admit to it), I don't watch TV; I read various different articles, do a little research and come to my own conclusions. I have always doubted Trump; ever since he relentlessly attacked Cruz and spent very little time attacking his supposed true opponent Hillary.  All things considering, Cruz would have faced an uphill battle as well, but I still believe he would have done a better job; strictly my opinion.

I have given Trump credit when I believe it has been due.  As for 2018; Bannon is trying to help unseat the incumbents that McConnell and swamp are trying to retain.  Trump actually trying to fire Sessions and bring this matter front and center is what he should be doing; it would IMO give him and conservatives running the credibility needed that the swamp is indeed being drained and conservative voters who haven't voted in a long time because of their disgust with the GOP might just decide to vote again.  It certainly would give reassurance that he is on our side and not the side of the establishment.  Time will tell.
The election is over, move on.
Your opinions parallel those of TV media talking heads, CNN, Juan Williams etc. How is it you missed Trump's push Right while the Establishment blocks his every move, with the exception of judicial appointments, the Wall, and the list is long. I'm not saying he's being Conservative, rather doing what he was elected to do and the GOP blocks his every move, and yet you seem to think Trump's ids to blame for everything that's happening.

How would Cruz have fared better? Seriously, the Marxist RINO fight Trump on what most consider Dim issues as well as what some consider Conservative points, and it's not because it's Trump, it's the fact that he is fighting leftists at every turn.
I'd still rather Cruz had been elected, but I doubt he'd have fared any better.

I read everything, even foreign news, but I only read opinion pieces for the sheer pleasure of shredding them, and that's the problem, there is no real news out there, it's incumbent upon you to be able to cut through the opinion crap and find the tiny bits of truth that slip through the wall.

How do you think I found out and posted the thread on ISIS surrendering? It wasn't an American news site.
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Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2017, 04:10:21 PM »
Ok ... I'll shrug off the fact that you called me a Snowflake ... thanks for the insult!!  Ok ... so what do you think is going to happen if Trump doesn't do anything and Sessions let's this slide; so far he has refused to lift the gag order.  Clinton and cronies continue to get away with whatever they want just as they have for decades.  I don't think waiting decades for the Clintons to finally be held responsible is being overly impatient.  I get your point, but in the past it seems that giving the Clintons any leeway allows the time to manuever, lie, deceive and wriggle out of responsibility, regardless of cost.


Let me put it this way.  IF your other half controls all the money and you have to ask for every red¢ and tell you NO.  What will you do?
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« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2017, 04:40:41 PM »
The election is over, move on.
Your opinions parallel those of TV media talking heads, CNN, Juan Williams etc. How is it you missed Trump's push Right while the Establishment blocks his every move, with the exception of judicial appointments, the Wall, and the list is long. I'm not saying he's being Conservative, rather doing what he was elected to do and the GOP blocks his every move, and yet you seem to think Trump's ids to blame for everything that's happening.

How would Cruz have fared better? Seriously, the Marxist RINO fight Trump on what most consider Dim issues as well as what some consider Conservative points, and it's not because it's Trump, it's the fact that he is fighting leftists at every turn.
I'd still rather Cruz had been elected, but I doubt he'd have fared any better.

I read everything, even foreign news, but I only read opinion pieces for the sheer pleasure of shredding them, and that's the problem, there is no real news out there, it's incumbent upon you to be able to cut through the opinion crap and find the tiny bits of truth that slip through the wall.

How do you think I found out and posted the thread on ISIS surrendering? It wasn't an American news site.


Again, not a TV watcher, nor did I miss the roadblocks given by his own party and the left every time he tries to accomplish what he promised. But if you want to form that opinion, that's certainly your prerogative. The blockades coming from his own party and from the left have been obvious. I've never denied that is happening.  Opinions are my own, like them or not.  I was of the opinion that Trump made a huge mistake when he first appointed Sessions, that opinion grew stronger when he appointed Rosenstein who in turn appointed Mueller. Yes, I looked up their backgrounds; I certainly didn't make any assumptions based on a CNN story that focused months ago on the connection; and I certainly don't think they would have reported that connection. I've expressed that opinion long ago and that opinion hasn't changed.  IF Trump still believes Sessions is helping to drain the swamp and actually doing the job that he was hired to do, then obviously he has no reason to fire him and we'll hopefully be hearing of Clinton being held responsible. IF Trump doesn't fire Sessions and no attempt is made to hold Clinton responsible and nothing becomes of all this as has happened for decades where the Clintons are concerned, then to me we've still got a huge problem, with Trump being part of that problem.

If Sessions isn't part of the problem and he actually holds the Clintons and others responsible, I'll certainly admit I was wrong. Him not lifting the gag order doesn't look to favorable for him ... just my opinion.
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Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2017, 04:45:36 PM »

Let me put it this way.  IF your other half controls all the money and you have to ask for every red¢ and tell you NO.  What will you do?

First of all, I would have never married my other half if I had to ask for every red cent and secondly if that came to be I would work on rectifying the situation.  This December we'll be married for 35 years and God willing we'll both be around to celebrate a couple more anniversaries.
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« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2017, 06:03:30 PM »
First of all, I would have never married my other half if I had to ask for every red cent and secondly if that came to be I would work on rectifying the situation.  This December we'll be married for 35 years and God willing we'll both be around to celebrate a couple more anniversaries.

Good for you and yours.  it will be our 50 this months.

Remember it has taken over 50+ years to get this way and it will not all be change in 4 year.   Trump has the Dem party and RINO party to deal with along with the MSM.
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« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2017, 06:11:15 PM »
Good for you and yours.  it will be our 50 this months.

Remember it has taken over 50+ years to get this way and it will not all be change in 4 year.   Trump has the Dem party and RINO party to deal with along with the MSM.

God Bless you and yours Walks.  Happy 50th Anniversary!!!
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« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2017, 06:28:22 AM »
Again, not a TV watcher, nor did I miss the roadblocks given by his own party and the left every time he tries to accomplish what he promised. But if you want to form that opinion, that's certainly your prerogative. The blockades coming from his own party and from the left have been obvious. I've never denied that is happening.  Opinions are my own, like them or not.  I was of the opinion that Trump made a huge mistake when he first appointed Sessions, that opinion grew stronger when he appointed Rosenstein who in turn appointed Mueller. Yes, I looked up their backgrounds; I certainly didn't make any assumptions based on a CNN story that focused months ago on the connection; and I certainly don't think they would have reported that connection. I've expressed that opinion long ago and that opinion hasn't changed.  IF Trump still believes Sessions is helping to drain the swamp and actually doing the job that he was hired to do, then obviously he has no reason to fire him and we'll hopefully be hearing of Clinton being held responsible. IF Trump doesn't fire Sessions and no attempt is made to hold Clinton responsible and nothing becomes of all this as has happened for decades where the Clintons are concerned, then to me we've still got a huge problem, with Trump being part of that problem.

If Sessions isn't part of the problem and he actually holds the Clintons and others responsible, I'll certainly admit I was wrong. Him not lifting the gag order doesn't look to favorable for him ... just my opinion.
I get that, I thought he campaigned like a true lib, no class whatsoever, but that was a campaign, and what he did was standard  for a leftist Hell bent on winning, but he didn't campaign on typical leftist issues, so most of us tossed it all aside because Trump's win only came with the help of the Marxist RINO, so we've moved on from the low life campaign tactics that were used while never forgiving the gop'E for screwing a Conservative.

With that said, what followed the campaign was a series of moves and manipulations by the party, Trump being new to the game needed allies fast and unfortunately, many of them were Dims because he knew the gop'E couldn't be trusted, but also knew he had to work with the tools he had at his disposal.

The gop'E already had designs on his agenda and were going to make it their own at any price.
You want to blame all this on Trump yet want to ignore the machinations by a leftist gop'E. I'm not saying what you're seeing is wrong, what I'm saying is you are ignoring the obvious elephant in the room holding half the party hostage as the leftist half goes about manipulating the actions of a POTUS with his hands tied, yet you're demanding he makes moves to placate your needs on your timescale?

All I'm trying to get across to you, is that Trump is playing a serious game of chess and maneuvering as best as possible, knowing the gop'e time is running out with the Midterms approaching.
If Trump moves too soon, the leftist run the board, if he bides his time and runs out the clock, the next move the RINO make will be irrelevant because the midterms will be the big game changer, the fruit produced by the two previous midterm elections.

We've spent nearly a decade getting this far and Trump knows it, and he also knows just how precariously perched the gop'E is up against the precipice, as does the gop'E, they are trying to force Trump's hand, yet all you can focus on is what they want you to see.

Am I getting through here? You are falling for the leftist narrative the media is producing under the direction of the Establishment.
Yes, the LSM is helping the gop'E because they share the same financial backers, the same ones they helped the DNC till it collapsed.
There is far more in play than you're recognizing, you're focusing on exactly what they want you to see.

My entire point is patience, let the clock play out, it's still his first year and we still have an election to get through where we kill off the power of a RINO majority.
If after that, he still acts like a powerless fool, then there's nothing we can do to help him, but I think the exact opposite is going to happen because the Conservative majority will more than likely control the purse strings over Congress.
The Establishment will have lost, the left will  have lost and Trump will no longer be beholden to their wishes.
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Re: Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2017, 08:55:09 AM »
I've not been a fan of Trump, and felt for a very long time he ran to siphon the conservative vote away from Cruz and to help out his buddy Hillary. Admittedly he's done some good things, but right now, I believe what he does from this point forward with the information he's had will be all telling.  Obamacare wasn't repealed, the wall still hasn't been built, and taxes are being worked on.  Has he put on a horse and pony show all along with lots of smoke and mirrors or is he legitimately trying to turn things around?

He hasn't been in a whole year yet...  I like the pace.
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« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2017, 10:04:21 AM »
He hasn't been in a whole year yet...  I like the pace.
Some are just too impatient. This is politics, where one major play may take years to come to fruition, Hell, look how long it took Dims to infest the GOP.
Nothing is going to change in the first year, that takes groundwork.
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