Chaffetz Thinks Congressmen Should Get $30,000 Extra For Housing
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/28/chaffetz-thinks-congressmen-should-get-30000-extra-for-housing/
We all think that's obsurd.....they should only be in Washington twice a year for a month stretch each time tops.
They can stay at hotels....or build a govt Hostel......barebones so they want to go back home
I am unable to accept the idea that I should be an obedient subject of a gang of corrupt, unprincipled thugs who pontificate about freedom while enslaving the population.
Quote from: Sauce on February 27, 2018, 04:24:13 AM
We all think that's obsurd.....they should only be in Washington twice a year for a month stretch each time tops.
They can stay at hotels....or build a govt Hostel......barebones so they want to go back home
Yep, and part time Congress, that only goes to DC once a year, the rest of the time should be spent telecommuting.
The TX legislature meets every other year. They seem to be doing quite well.
They should be made to stay in one of Washington DC's housing projects, Potomac Gardens, Barry Farms, Sirsum Corda.... which are like a microcosm of a war zone. Let them see what their Democratic policies have wrought.
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 27, 2018, 04:47:12 AM
The TX legislature meets every other year. They seem to be doing quite well.
We can ad that or similar amendment to the list of proposed Article 5 convention of states proposed amendments.
If I might play the Devil's Advocate; Rich Congressmen can pay their own expenses and afford to be in Washington doing the work of the Devil as much as such work may require. I am rather uncomfortable with having the Representatives we sent to Washington to represent us only being individuals who are wealthy enough to be able to support their homes and families in their home districts and not bat an eye at the cost of housing Washington DC. In the great scheme of things, it's not a whole lot of money.
If we want to have good, conservative fighters in Washington, then we need to have regular, everyday neighbors who may not have the means to even compete with the wealthy Elites of the Swamp.
I'm not sure, but this point needs some consideration.
We are able to send our Representatives from our districts every two years. Why don't we have any regular every day people in Congress? Do they all have to be lawyers and millionaires?
It's supposed to be a privilege and a public service. Not a get-rich scheme or luxurious experience.
They should have cots in their office, or some sort of semi-private dormitory. They already have a fancy gym and locker room to shower in, and an equally nice dining room. They really should live in a similar manner to our military, not like the Queen of England.
They should really have a cubicle farm instead of lavish offices, too.
Somebody needs to just run for congress and senate with these stated values / goals -
-As stated above
-Tighter term limits
-Age limits
-6 months in DC, 6 months at home with constituency / mandatory town halls and planning meetings
-Enforce insider trading and similar laws of ethics / morality
The politicians in DC may all hate you, but I'll bet the voters may just go for it. I'd love to get elected just to go up there and be an outcast, say exactly what I think about everybody and everything they do. Have no plans to be re-elected, blow it out in one term and make that a calling card as well. Tell all the lobbyists to f-off, publicly, as well.
You may actually get shot by somebody !
Let them open a Lemonade Stand if they need more money.
Quote from: walkstall on February 27, 2018, 07:49:54 AM
Let them open a Lemonade Stand if they need more money.
c'mon ewalks, you really think Mad Maxine, the Pile of Schiff and some of the other losers could actually manage a Lemonade Stand.
Quote from: AndyJackson on February 27, 2018, 07:49:46 AM
It's supposed to be a privilege and a public service. Not a get-rich scheme or luxurious experience.
They should have cots in their office, or some sort of semi-private dormitory. They already have a fancy gym and locker room to shower in, and an equally nice dining room. They really should live in a similar manner to our military, not like the Queen of England.
They should really have a cubicle farm instead of lavish offices, too.
Somebody needs to just run for congress and senate with these stated values / goals -
-As stated above
-Tighter term limits
-Age limits
-6 months in DC, 6 months at home with constituency / mandatory town halls and planning meetings
-Enforce insider trading and similar laws of ethics / morality
The politicians in DC may all hate you, but I'll bet the voters may just go for it. I'd love to get elected just to go up there and be an outcast, say exactly what I think about everybody and everything they do. Have no plans to be re-elected, blow it out in one term and make that a calling card as well. Tell all the lobbyists to f-off, publicly, as well.
You may actually get shot by somebody !
Many of them do "have cots in their office" and ...
this is not for himself... Jason Chaffetz said this on the way out the door...
" but before going, the Utah Republican gave an exit interview to the Hill on Tuesday in which he bemoaned the costs that members of Congress bear in splitting their time between Washington and their home states. "Washington, DC, is one of the most expensive places in the world, and I flat-out cannot ..."
" To top it off, Chaffetz has been one of those guys who sleeps on a rollaway cot in his office rather than test the waters of DC's cutthroat real-estate market. At least 40 other House members share this habit, "
https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/06/27/congress-housing-stipends-chaffetz/
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on February 27, 2018, 09:00:07 AM
c'mon ewalks, you really think Mad Maxine, the Pile of Schiff and some of the other losers could actually manage a Lemonade Stand.
Only if it was against the law and they did not have to work in the stand.
Quote from: gunchick on February 27, 2018, 04:06:39 AM
Chaffetz Thinks Congressmen Should Get $30,000 Extra For Housing
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/28/chaffetz-thinks-congressmen-should-get-30000-extra-for-housing/
Isn't it ironic, I think that is the same $ amount to house a federal convict. Maybe we can come up with a solution for the same $ amount. :thumbup:
Quote from: s3779m on February 28, 2018, 04:10:17 AM
Isn't it ironic, I think that is the same $ amount to house a federal convict. Maybe we can come up with a solution for the same $ amount. :thumbup:
Ignore this troll, it came in and puked a bunch of outdated articles all over the forum, I left a couple.
This troll does not have the ability to gather its thoughts and debate actual points, so it's pissed that it was banned, and now it comes by like like lawn snails to be stepped on after a rain.
I knew my "Devil's Advocate" post would be controversial. However, I know for a fact that we have difficulty finding qualified individuals who share our values and beliefs who are willing to make the sacrifices it take to run for and then remain in political office. The fact is that it takes a person of some personal wealth to be able to support a home and family in their home state and be in Washington when we need them to and balance travel and time between their family and paying their bills at home and doing the people's business in Washington for two years! I don't think we necessarily get our best and our brightest when we only have candidate who are very wealthy (and/or lawyers). Does that make sense to anyone else?
Jason Chavez floated this idea after he did not seek reelection and it would not be self serving.
Quote from: wally on February 27, 2018, 07:35:35 AM
If I might play the Devil's Advocate; Rich Congressmen can pay their own expenses and afford to be in Washington doing the work of the Devil as much as such work may require. I am rather uncomfortable with having the Representatives we sent to Washington to represent us only being individuals who are wealthy enough to be able to support their homes and families in their home districts and not bat an eye at the cost of housing Washington DC. In the great scheme of things, it's not a whole lot of money.
If we want to have good, conservative fighters in Washington, then we need to have regular, everyday neighbors who may not have the means to even compete with the wealthy Elites of the Swamp.
I'm not sure, but this point needs some consideration.
We are able to send our Representatives from our districts every two years. Why don't we have any regular every day people in Congress? Do they all have to be lawyers and millionaires?
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Hmm.........................so $30,000 for a good conservative fighter? Wow, sounds like a real bargain. So How many have we got now??? Er..................???? Time for a reality check!
The frauds and hustlers who infest DC wound't know a Rule (Principle) of Conservatism from
the Rule on Pass Completion/Incompletion in the NFL.
Suggestion. Keep them as far ways from DC as possible w/ their ability to conspire and cheat.
Have them vote on the Net so at least we can save the $30,000 bucks per asshole.
It should be mandatory that if you wanna be any politician that bad, you should be forced to sleep on a cot in that position's office.
Quote from: kansas on July 07, 2018, 03:45:41 AM
Every day the US gets worse. We pretend everything is fine, justify things, lie to ourselves, and stay silent.
Do you think things will get better on their own?
At point will you get mad? When will you resist? What will say when the economy collapses, you get sent to the concentration camps, the civil war starts, and WWIII breaks out?
Will you feel any responsibility at all?
Are you just going to take it?
You are really a bad troll. So easily identified. This is a serious forum so you may be excused.
Quote from: kansas on July 07, 2018, 03:45:41 AM
Every day the US gets worse. We pretend everything is fine, justify things, lie to ourselves, and stay silent.
Do you think things will get better on their own?
At point will you get mad? When will you resist? What will say when the economy collapses, you get sent to the concentration camps, the civil war starts, and WWIII breaks out?
Will you feel any responsibility at all?
Are you just going to take it?
You must lead a pretty dismal life if you think things are getting worse.
Well the Liberals are making it worse.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on July 07, 2018, 07:16:50 AM
Well the Liberals are making it worse.
Now that I think about it, life is getting harder for libs under Trump. :lol:
Quote from: wally on February 27, 2018, 09:09:17 AM
Many of them do "have cots in their office" and ...
this is not for himself... Jason Chaffetz said this on the way out the door...
" but before going, the Utah Republican gave an exit interview to the Hill on Tuesday in which he bemoaned the costs that members of Congress bear in splitting their time between Washington and their home states. "Washington, DC, is one of the most expensive places in the world, and I flat-out cannot ..."
" To top it off, Chaffetz has been one of those guys who sleeps on a rollaway cot in his office rather than test the waters of DC's cutthroat real-estate market. At least 40 other House members share this habit, "
https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/06/27/congress-housing-stipends-chaffetz/
Actually, I commend Chaffetz, as you said he slept in his office. I object to the ones who can
afford expensive digs, and can deduct it on their taxes.
I see the issue as this and I always wondered why the Federal Government is paying members of
the House and Senate...one could consider that a conflict of interest. They are sent to Washington
to represent their States, and the citizens of their States. Why aren't the States paying their
salaries, and providing a stipend.
Quote from: Solar on July 07, 2018, 05:59:54 AM
You must lead a pretty dismal life if you think things are getting worse.
He's right. Everything comes to an end on Tuesday.
Quote from: harry12 on July 07, 2018, 03:30:22 PM
Actually, I commend Chaffetz, as you said he slept in his office. I object to the ones who can
afford expensive digs, and can deduct it on their taxes.
I see the issue as this and I always wondered why the Federal Government is paying members of
the House and Senate...one could consider that a conflict of interest. They are sent to Washington
to represent their States, and the citizens of their States. Why aren't the States paying their
salaries, and providing a stipend.
Why are they not working for home 90% of the time. With the communications we have now days they don't need to spend 24/7 in DC. It was to be a part time job not a full time job. They have made it full time.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 07, 2018, 05:36:06 PM
He's right. Everything comes to an end on Tuesday.
And the answer is 42, I repeat, the answer o life is 42.
Quote from: Solar on July 07, 2018, 06:59:46 PM
And the answer is 42, I repeat, the answer o life is 42.
I assume you have your towel at the ready.
Quote from: Solar on July 07, 2018, 06:59:46 PM
And the answer is 42, I repeat, the answer o life is 42.
Only if you know what the question was in the first place.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 07, 2018, 07:03:32 PM
I assume you have your towel at the ready.
(https://i.giphy.com/media/26uf5ZYRXKOIszEQw/giphy.webp)
Quote from: Solar on July 07, 2018, 07:28:28 PM
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Well said.
Life is a nightmare now.
You'll be wiretapped if you make a phone call and tracked by license plate readers if you drive.
If you go to a baseball game or Disneyland, you'll need to give your fingerprints, be molested, and be made to carry a microchip.
We're all slaves living in a prison.
Who would want to be born into this world?
Quote from: dcrifle on July 14, 2018, 05:11:54 AM
Life is a nightmare now.
You'll be wiretapped if you make a phone call and tracked by license plate readers if you drive.
If you go to a baseball game or Disneyland, you'll need to give your fingerprints, be molested, and be made to carry a microchip.
We're all slaves living in a prison.
Who would want to be born into this world?
What a wonderful outlook on life!
Quote from: dcrifle on July 14, 2018, 05:11:54 AM
Life is a nightmare now.
You'll be wiretapped if you make a phone call and tracked by license plate readers if you drive.
If you go to a baseball game or Disneyland, you'll need to give your fingerprints, be molested, and be made to carry a microchip.
We're all slaves living in a prison.
Who would want to be born into this world?
Let me guess...You live in a lib city?
http://www.desototimes.com/opinion/columns_editorials/we-re-all-inmates-in-the-american-police-state/article_e81415aa-16c8-11e5-8c24-bbaf57c99d50.html
Quote from: dcrifle on July 14, 2018, 05:51:03 AM
http://www.desototimes.com/opinion/columns_editorials/we-re-all-inmates-in-the-american-police-state/article_e81415aa-16c8-11e5-8c24-bbaf57c99d50.html
Hey Dumb Ass! That was during the Marxist Administration.
Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2018, 06:06:27 AM
Hey Dumb Ass! That was during the Marxist Administration.
Damm solar, you just insulted all the smart dumb asses.
Quote from: s3779m on July 14, 2018, 06:28:39 AM
Damm solar, you just insulted all the smart dumb asses.
:biggrin:
The guy doesn't even try, he sticks "bad news for Trump" in google, and whatever it spits out, he posts.
Problem is, even google has trouble finding bad news on Trump, so it goes back to before the election. :lol:
I find it funny that conservatives are attacking democrats for a proposal that a so-called conservative made
This is why things don't change in Washington -- because they know sycophants will shake their red or blue poms poms for their team and the game keeps being played.
Quote from: Biff_Poindexter on July 16, 2018, 06:52:23 AM
I find it funny that conservatives are attacking democrats for a proposal that a so-called conservative made
This is why things don't change in Washington -- because they know sycophants will shake their red or blue poms poms for their team and the game keeps being played.
Wait, did you just conflate Conservatives with the GOP? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The party's are inseparable, which is why Trump was elected, to put an end to this one party leftist rule.
Does anyone get the feeling that the Uniparty has been bought off by the elites?
Quote from: idaho on September 18, 2018, 07:12:07 PM
Does anyone get the feeling that the Uniparty has been bought off by the elites?
Yep, more than 30 years ago.
https://www.srnnews.com/jimmy-carter-us-more-like-oligarchy-than-democracy/
Quote from: idaho on September 18, 2018, 07:39:31 PM
https://www.srnnews.com/jimmy-carter-us-more-like-oligarchy-than-democracy/
The Idiot still thinks we're a Democracy instead of a Republic.
Quote from: mabel on September 18, 2018, 08:52:31 PM
Democracy or Republic, the US should not be a police state.
Thank a leftist for all the oppression coming from our govt.
Quote from: mabel on September 18, 2018, 08:52:31 PM
Democracy or Republic, the US should not be a police state.
Who did you vote for in the past 3 elections?
Quote from: mabel on September 18, 2018, 08:52:31 PM
Democracy or Republic, the US should not be a police state.
I dont know where you live, but out here in the Midwest there is alot of space and alot of freedom.
I agree that gvt power needs to be restrained, our founders said that. And ya the legal system needs to be revamped. And ya, local police need to be policed by citizens. But the closest thing to a police state is the deep state which trump and Q r taking care of now. So sleep easy and prepare for a new age of freedom.
Quote from: T Hunt on September 19, 2018, 05:31:03 PM
I dont know where you live, but out here in the Midwest there is alot of space and alot of freedom.
I agree that gvt power needs to be restrained, our founders said that. And ya the legal system needs to be revamped. And ya, local police need to be policed by citizens. But the closest thing to a police state is the deep state which trump and Q r taking care of now. So sleep easy and prepare for a new age of freedom.
Crap like that worries me. Do you really want your Liberal neighbor controlling law enforcement? It's bad enough they are more worried about the police than the actual criminal with these "cop-blocker" videos on YouTube.
Weird how this thread keeps popping up.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 19, 2018, 08:14:08 PM
Weird how this thread keeps popping up.
I think he a troll. We will see in time.
Some Americans may have felt uneasy 35 years ago when DUI laws, DWI checkpoints, seatbelt laws, and car liability insurance laws were started, but most people felt that the experts must be right.
Pro-police state shows like "COPS" and "America's Most Wanted" were then aired, neighborhood watch groups were formed, "get tough on crime" candidates were elected, and laws allowing mandatory minimums, IMBRA, 3 strikes laws, curfews, police militarization, teen boot camps, school metal detectors, private prisons, and chain gangs were enacted.
Nanny state smoking laws then started appearing.
When 9/11 happened, the Patriot Act was passed, NSA wiretapping, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, Jade Helm, sneak and peek warrants, policing for profit, no refusal blood checkpoints, license plate readers, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, tattoo databases, gun bans, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, CISPA, SOPA, private prison quotas, supermax prisons, FOSTA, sex offender registration laws, and sex offender restriction laws were allowed.
Now that the USA is a total police state, Americans are finding out that changing anything is impossible and that freedom is lost forever.
Quote from: tozi on September 19, 2018, 09:34:11 PM
Some Americans may have felt uneasy 35 years ago when DUI laws, DWI checkpoints, seatbelt laws, and car liability insurance laws were started, but most people felt that the experts must be right.
Pro-police state shows like "COPS" and "America's Most Wanted" were then aired, neighborhood watch groups were formed, "get tough on crime" candidates were elected, and laws allowing mandatory minimums, IMBRA, 3 strikes laws, curfews, police militarization, teen boot camps, school metal detectors, private prisons, and chain gangs were enacted.
Nanny state smoking laws then started appearing.
When 9/11 happened, the Patriot Act was passed, NSA wiretapping, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, Jade Helm, sneak and peek warrants, policing for profit, no refusal blood checkpoints, license plate readers, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, tattoo databases, gun bans, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, CISPA, SOPA, private prison quotas, supermax prisons, FOSTA, sex offender registration laws, and sex offender restriction laws were allowed.
Now that the USA is a total police state, Americans are finding out that changing anything is impossible and that freedom is lost forever.
Watch "Bait Car". The cops aren't the problem. It's the endless supply of minorities stealing cars is.
You wanna complain about cops? I can point to situations where the cops didn't do enough, because bullshit policies.
The same moral police officer who earns $24,000 per year and says that he loves the Bill of Rights might be happy to torture if he was paid $100,000 a year.
Quote from: tozi on September 19, 2018, 11:50:09 PM
The same moral police officer who earns $24,000 per year and says that he loves the Bill of Rights might be happy to torture if he was paid $100,000 a year.
The same could be said for citizens. By the way, what the hell is your point or solution?
Quote from: tozi on September 19, 2018, 11:50:09 PM
The same moral police officer who earns $24,000 per year and says that he loves the Bill of Rights might be happy to torture if he was paid $100,000 a year.
Just move to another country and let real men, Patriots, Trump fix the problems, we don't need whiners.
Quote from: tozi on September 19, 2018, 11:50:09 PM
The same moral police officer who earns $24,000 per year and says that he loves the Bill of Rights might be happy to torture if he was paid $100,000 a year.
We don't do torture. I guess we just do waterboarding, where the only torture involved is the muzzi being forced to finally get a bath.