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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #105 on: January 23, 2013, 03:21:03 PM »
There'd be no more debate as to the meaning.  I know it's been upheld in the Scotus to mean an individuals right to bear arms, let's make the wording less ambiguous regardless of a Scotus ruling.

It's the least clear of all the amendments. Are you supposed to be in a well regulated militia to carry a firearm?
It says nothing of the sort.  Step back, grab the reigns of honesty, and join us in glorious adultness.

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« Reply #106 on: January 23, 2013, 03:27:50 PM »
There'd be no more debate as to the meaning.  I know it's been upheld in the Scotus to mean an individuals right to bear arms, let's make the wording less ambiguous regardless of a Scotus ruling.

It's the least clear of all the amendments. Are you supposed to be in a well regulated militia to carry a firearm?


All you have to be is a "people".

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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #107 on: January 23, 2013, 03:29:12 PM »
haha, awesome.

If you keep them blabbing long enough, they will accidentally let out some truths that blow up their carefully cultivated alter egos.

On the other PF, it was slowly discovered that most of the bigmouth, imperious liberals were 15 to 20 years old, one failed out of school and took welfare falsely until he could get back ahead, one was a convict, and most of them haven't had jobs in a long, long time.  All Obama fans, of course.

If one only knew the skeevy, dirty people behind these know-it-all blowhards, it would be astonishing.

But that's the wonder of the internet.  The people who were formerly hidden by their families, or even too ashamed themselves to venture outside....are now the smartest, loudest folks on every site.

Stop being so foolish, it's unbecoming.

You are aware that people sometimes retrain and return to school for an education throughout their adult life?  Probably why I'm so elite.  I have a fairly useless music degree and also a certification!

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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #108 on: January 23, 2013, 03:30:10 PM »
A well regulated militia is that which will be created at any time, based on the individual's right to bear arms.

In their time, the founders saw many militias of every possible form and identity.

This is how freedom is kept during anarchy, confusion, and oppression.  Citizens need to react, and need to be able to fight to see another day if they face an armed dictator and his/her army.

I don't know if your revisionist liberal history allows for it, but part of the dialogue of the axis powers and the idea of invading America.......was that they'd never do it, because the citizens were too well armed even without the military.

I'm sure it never happened, and really is quite impossible, in liberal land.  Just like guns never really save anyone, streets always run red with blood whenever gun laws are relaxed, and guns are the culprit in human violence.

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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #109 on: January 23, 2013, 03:31:02 PM »

All you have to be is a "people".

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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #110 on: January 23, 2013, 03:44:58 PM »

Wait...you went to art school, but you work in a hospital... :huh:


I know right?!  I did go back to school after failing at being a rock star, but still.  I should be fired immediately, totally agree.


Hmm...Capt.Obvious said in post 90, Political Discussion and Debate / Re: One more reason why the Lib Gun attack is wrong « on: January 21, 2013, 16:20:31 »

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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #111 on: January 23, 2013, 04:07:05 PM »


Hmm...Capt.Obvious said in post 90, Political Discussion and Debate / Re: One more reason why the Lib Gun attack is wrong « on: January 21, 2013, 16:20:31 »

I'm elite and double educated. You also might want to look up the connection between music and medical arts. It seems musically inclined people are also attracted to medicine.

I assume it's because we're so awesome. 

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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #112 on: January 23, 2013, 04:17:22 PM »
Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed

Any time one chooses to defend themsleves rather than pass that job off to someone else, the assume greater risks.

I'd suggest the liklyhood of death or injuy to the ciminal increases far more than to the victim.

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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #113 on: January 23, 2013, 04:22:42 PM »
There'd be no more debate as to the meaning.  I know it's been upheld in the Scotus to mean an individuals right to bear arms, let's make the wording less ambiguous regardless of a Scotus ruling.

It's the least clear of all the amendments. Are you supposed to be in a well regulated militia to carry a firearm?

Are you avoiding my posts because you hate facts?
I repeat!

As I pointed out once before, if you understood the meaning behind it, you wouldn't expose your ignorance every time the subject is broached.
Jefferson spoke on the subject, Madison wrote about it in the the Federalist papers.
Here is a simplified version you might be able to grasp.
http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndpur.html
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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #114 on: January 23, 2013, 04:23:02 PM »
Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed

Any time one chooses to defend themsleves rather than pass that job off to someone else, the assume greater risks.

I'd suggest the liklyhood of death or injuy to the ciminal increases far more than to the victim.
Excellent point!
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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #115 on: January 23, 2013, 04:32:30 PM »
There'd be no more debate as to the meaning.  I know it's been upheld in the Scotus to mean an individuals right to bear arms, let's make the wording less ambiguous regardless of a Scotus ruling.

It's the least clear of all the amendments. Are you supposed to be in a well regulated militia to carry a firearm?

No! Because men were armed, they were in the militia. Well regulated simply meant well trained and well equipped, with every terrible weapon of the regular army. Pre-state days, BTW, the states formed the union, the union did not form the states, everyone from 16 to 60 were required upon moving into a community or region to have a weapon, so much powder, so many rounds for projectiles, two blankets, and enough food to sustain him while in the field. If he was mounted, he was required to have fodder for his mount. Later, the requirements generally was reduced to 16 to 45 years of age. They were the first line of defense against invasion, whether foreign, by another state, by bands of Indians, or by gangs of criminals.

If an individual did not have the money, or a sponsor, or could borrow the money, he was indentured and the necessary equipment and rifle or musket, furnished him. He stayed indentured until the debt was paid in full. He was required to once a month, present himself upon the green, with his weapons for drill and marksmanship practice.
 
That, Sir, was the well regulated militia. My fifth, fourth, and third great grand paps fought with militias. By the War of 1812, most militias were voluntary. My second great grand pap enlisted out of Angelina County in Texas with Hoods Brigade to fight the Blue Bellies.

You are a member of the militia, unorganized, most probably, but still a member unless the upper age limits have gotten you. I would, of necessity, be too old.
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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #116 on: January 23, 2013, 04:34:38 PM »
Didn't Chicago ban hand guns?


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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #117 on: January 23, 2013, 04:36:50 PM »
Are you avoiding my posts because you hate facts?
I repeat!

As I pointed out once before, if you understood the meaning behind it, you wouldn't expose your ignorance every time the subject is broached.
Jefferson spoke on the subject, Madison wrote about it in the the Federalist papers.
Here is a simplified version you might be able to grasp.
http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndpur.html


I'm ignoring your posts because they are passive aggressive and derisive.

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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #118 on: January 23, 2013, 04:40:23 PM »
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Re: Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed
« Reply #119 on: January 23, 2013, 04:49:51 PM »
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Solar! Stop being passive aggressive! It's upsetting the tourists....

I always thought libs were the masters of passive aggressive snobiness anyway.   

 

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