Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed

Started by Capt.Obvious, January 22, 2013, 02:55:14 AM

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AndyJackson

Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 23, 2013, 01:52:00 PM
I don't mind that clause at all but you should.  You should amend it and remove that language, really make the 2nd clear.  Just pro tip, keep it for free.
What could be more clear than "well regulated militia", since it's not the federal army, and over the centuries could take many forms depending on the internal threat, or dictator.

The founders were much more intelligent than you (really everybody, to be fair), despite your insinuation that they must have bolloxed up everything because you disagree with it.  They were specific at the right times, and generic at the right times, and created a process for change that would be reserved for only the most important, agreed-upon needs....not the whims of a bunch of political hacks.

Capt.Obvious

Whatever Andy, you can stop wasting your time. I'm here to debate, argue, and learn.  The title of this forum is Political Discussion and Debate.

Maybe you'd prefer The Conservative Political Discussion and Circle Jerk?  You won't have to be trouble with debate.

AndyJackson

ahhh, circle jerk.

I told you already, we only have to keep folks like you engaged to see your true colors leak out.

You pretend to not be liberal, to be a real patriot, and to be super-de-duper smarter than the conservative rubes.

But the real you is showing.

Capt.Obvious

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 23, 2013, 02:13:03 PM
ahhh, circle jerk.

I told you already, we only have to keep folks like you engaged to see your true colors leak out.

You pretend to not be liberal, to be a real patriot, and to be super-de-duper smarter than the conservative rubes.

But the real you is showing.

I sound super educated?  Cheer mate!  Very kind of you. I want to art college though, so unexpected.  I am a card carrying democrat and a liberal.  That should have been painfully obvious even to you.

What makes you think I'm pretending to not be predominantly liberal and left wing?

AndyJackson

"paint me into your little box labeled liberals" is what you said.  Not exactly identifying yourself as a liberal, in fact insinuating quite the opposite.

I didn't say you were educated, I said that your snarky, smarmy little asides drip with "I'm smart / smarter".

It's obvious that you're a liberal, as your serial little dishonesties and half-truths and continual inaccurate "quotes" attest to.  That's not even in question.  Your dodgy little approach is the issue.

Solar

Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 23, 2013, 01:52:00 PM
I don't mind that clause at all but you should.  You should amend it and remove that language, really make the 2nd clear.  Just pro tip, keep it for free.
As I pointed out once before, if you understood the meaning behind it, you wouldn't expose your ignorance every time the subject is broached.
Jefferson spoke on the subject, Madison wrote about it in the the Federalist papers.
Here is a simplified version you might be able to grasp.
http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndpur.html
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AndyJackson

And by "issue" I mean point in question.  Not "issue" as in "it actually matters" lol.

You do seem to be a fairly nice person.  Better than most liberals.

But you still do have all the annoying, cloying, oblivious attributes.  A lot of what you say is silly and/or annoying, and you're oblivious to it, apparently thinking that this is how it's done.

Shooterman

Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 23, 2013, 01:52:00 PM
I don't mind that clause at all but you should.  You should amend it and remove that language, really make the 2nd clear.  Just pro tip, keep it for free.

WHY?
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AndyJackson

lol, that little quip keeps taking a pounding.

It feels like she just thinks it's obvious and can't be questioned, though.

Solar

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 23, 2013, 02:59:34 PM
And by "issue" I mean point in question.  Not "issue" as in "it actually matters" lol.

You do seem to be a fairly nice person.  Better than most liberals.

But you still do have all the annoying, cloying, oblivious attributes.  A lot of what you say is silly and/or annoying, and you're oblivious to it, apparently thinking that this is how it's done.
It is, if you only listen to, or watch network news/media.
MSNBC is full of this kind of myopic thinking, history is old news, were Progressives, Forward thinkers, we can't be bothered with documents written by old white guys 200+ years ago.
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JustKari

Wait...you went to art school, but you work in a hospital... :huh:

AndyJackson

It is funny, their mythology.

You'd never know that Joe McCarthy was correct in most of his claims and accusations.  They just yell "McCarthyism" as if they have a point.

You'd never know that virtually every stance Romney took was sharp and accurate.  Not with the focus on dogs on the car roof, beating up fellow 9th graders 50 years ago, killing that guy's wife, not filing tax returns for 20 years, and so on.

You'd never know that Akin's quote was about lying, padded statistics about rape abortions.  Of course not...he was saying that some rapes are good, OBVIOUSLY.

The whole leftist operation is built on a framework of daily lying.  Supported by the media. And it's working for now.  God help us if we don't find a counter to it.

Capt.Obvious

Quote from: Shooterman on January 23, 2013, 03:01:42 PM
WHY?

There'd be no more debate as to the meaning.  I know it's been upheld in the Scotus to mean an individuals right to bear arms, let's make the wording less ambiguous regardless of a Scotus ruling.

It's the least clear of all the amendments. Are you supposed to be in a well regulated militia to carry a firearm?

AndyJackson

Quote from: JustKari on January 23, 2013, 03:08:04 PM
Wait...you went to art school, but you work in a hospital... :huh:
haha, awesome.

If you keep them blabbing long enough, they will accidentally let out some truths that blow up their carefully cultivated alter egos.

On the other PF, it was slowly discovered that most of the bigmouth, imperious liberals were 15 to 20 years old, one failed out of school and took welfare falsely until he could get back ahead, one was a convict, and most of them haven't had jobs in a long, long time.  All Obama fans, of course.

If one only knew the skeevy, dirty people behind these know-it-all blowhards, it would be astonishing.

But that's the wonder of the internet.  The people who were formerly hidden by their families, or even too ashamed themselves to venture outside....are now the smartest, loudest folks on every site.

Capt.Obvious

Quote from: JustKari on January 23, 2013, 03:08:04 PM
Wait...you went to art school, but you work in a hospital... :huh:

I know right?!  I did go back to school after failing at being a rock star, but still.  I should be fired immediately, totally agree.