I call BS on the whole "study".

Likely these stats are baed on gang bangers, corner yo Boys and assorted criminals shooting at each other over some territorial imperative or rip off.

Show me incidents where honest armed citizens confront armed criminals and come out unscathed....oh wait...the NRA publishes these ancedotes every month...

Quote from: BILLY Defiant on January 22, 2013, 02:48:46 PM
I call BS on the whole "study".

Likely these stats are baed on gang bangers, corner yo Boys and assorted criminals shooting at each other over some territorial imperative or rip off.

Show me incidents where honest armed citizens confront armed criminals and come out unscathed....oh wait...the NRA publishes these ancedotes every month...

Agreed. If we were to eliminate all gang related gun crime, the US gun crime stats would nose dive.

Interestingly, we have an administration that calls for amnesty for illegals, and gun bans on the law abiding citizens; and they tell us that we will be safer.

You were also right on the superior court cases, in one of your other posts. They roll violent felons right back into the street. I've seen it myself.

Quote from: kramarat on January 22, 2013, 02:59:21 PM
Agreed. If we were to eliminate all gang related gun crime, the US gun crime stats would nose dive.

Interestingly, we have an administration that calls for amnesty for illegals, and gun bans on the law abiding citizens; and they tell us that we will be safer.

You were also right on the superior court cases, in one of your other posts. They roll violent felons right back into the street. I've seen it myself.

Considering that almost 33% of violent felons imprisoned in various states are illegal aliens and the overwhelming rest of the majority of those incarecerted are repeat ofenders it is very easy to identify the problems.

But we can't have the constituency get locked up behind bars when they should be out there collecting benefits and voting.

Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 01:00:06 PM
Guns mean freedom to you?  I think Mexicans have a more profound understanding of freedom than Americans will ever hope to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_escape

In Mexico, for instance, escapees who do not break any other laws are not charged for anything and no extra time is added to their sentence;[4] however, officers are allowed to shoot prisoners attempting to escape.[5] In Mexico, an escape is illegal if violence is used against prison personnel or property or if prison inmates or officials aid the escape.[6]

Capt Oblivious, Wiki is not considered a reference on any reputable forum, Ever.
Using it here to make a point shows two things, one, you are lazy as Hell and two, it exposes your lack of intellect.
If you want to be taken seriously, try using actual references.

Quote from: kramarat on January 22, 2013, 01:59:40 PM
Sorry Capt., you may want to consider cracking open a history book. It in no way supports your argument.

I can provide lots of links, in which gun control preceded genocide.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north367.html

His response: "History schmistry, that's yesterdays news, we libs look to tomorrow"...

Quote from: Solar on January 22, 2013, 05:16:03 PM
His response: "History schmistry, that's yesterdays news, we libs look to tomorrow"...

By forcing failed liberal policies of yesterday on the country....

Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 22, 2013, 05:23:53 PM
By forcing failed liberal policies of yesterday on the country....

That's their idea of Forward or progressive, looking backward.
But in their defense, all the previous communist/Marxists/dictators/fascists just didn't apply liberalism correctly.

Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 02:55:14 AM

Hey Capt. Long time no see 

Quote from: Josie on January 23, 2013, 10:54:51 AM
Hey Capt. Long time no see 

Where do you know him from?

Quote from: Solar on January 23, 2013, 11:03:48 AM
Where do you know him from?

Met him on Myspace US political forum, also on the USP outland forum on yuku... He's a nice guy but we obviously don't agree when it comes to politics LOL

Quote from: Josie on January 23, 2013, 11:23:31 AM
Met him on Myspace US political forum, also on the USP outland forum on yuku... He's a nice guy but we obviously don't agree when it comes to politics LOL

Thanks, I was just curious, since some thought he came from LNF.

Quote from: Solar on January 23, 2013, 11:25:54 AM
Thanks, I was just curious, since some thought he came from LNF.

He may have posted there too but idk cause I havent been on there much ... it's not much fun there without Harry.

Quote from: Josie on January 23, 2013, 11:29:16 AM
He may have posted there too but idk cause I havent been on there much ... it's not much fun there without Harry.

Quote from: Josie on January 23, 2013, 11:29:16 AM
He may have posted there too but idk cause I havent been on there much ... it's not much fun there without Harry.

Harry quit too?

Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 22, 2013, 05:23:53 PM
By forcing failed liberal policies of yesterday on the country....

It's the only way for them to ignore the failures of today.....