Carrying a Gun Increases Your Risk of Getting Shot and Killed

Started by Capt.Obvious, January 22, 2013, 02:55:14 AM

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Quote from: Josie on January 23, 2013, 11:29:16 AM
He may have posted there too but idk cause I havent been on there much ... it's not much fun there without Harry.

Sorry I let you down :-(
#PureBlood #TrumpWon

Capt.Obvious

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 22, 2013, 12:49:48 PM
uhhhh, I've been here 53 years, served the USAF for 22 of 'em.

You can have opinions all you want, but you can't just say stuff that's either lies or simply ridiculous, and expect that you just "have a special right" to do so, without getting some blowback from reasonable people.

Your nasty outlook on the constitution does indeed make you look un-American.  It's THE THING that's made America the greatest example of freedom, excellence, and service to each other.....EVER.

Little hipster snarkers who get their giggles by insulting the constitution are absolutely un-American.

They are all completely allowed to articulate something intelligent about anything, and propose an amendment that makes sense.  Not just snark away about "mindlessly following the constitution".

I just don't believe anything created by man particularly a document, need be sacred. Again, the founders knew it was a fallible document and of course included an amendment process for when it needs to adapt.

I find it telling that because you believe I have a nasty outlook on the constitution, I must hate America.  Our founders debated over each provision, were they also un-American for arguing their views?

Maybe those confederates were  un-American for not agreeing with the abolition of slavery. Would you say that?  Or is it just people who don't agree with the glorious 2nd?

Shooterman

Has anyone heard from Harry?

I look in on the Loose Nut Forum occasionally, see most of the same children posting, and leave.
There's no ticks like Polyticks-bloodsuckers all Davy Crockett 1786-1836

Yankees are like castor oil. Even a small dose is bad.
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Shooterman

Has anyone heard from Harry?

I look in on the Loose Nut Forum occasionally, see most of the same children posting, and leave.
There's no ticks like Polyticks-bloodsuckers all Davy Crockett 1786-1836

Yankees are like castor oil. Even a small dose is bad.
[IMG]

Capt.Obvious

Quote from: Josie on January 23, 2013, 10:54:51 AM
Hey Capt. Long time no see  :smile:

Wow!  Surprise surprise!  Nice to you again Josie!  USP Outlands is really pretty dead, they all went to e-face it seems.  I still avoid Book Face like the plague but I did break down and make a profile.  =-(

Thought I'd break it up bit and take some lumps over here.  I sense a banning soon though if I don't fall in line it seems. Heh.

supsalemgr

Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 23, 2013, 12:39:20 PM
I just don't believe anything created by man particularly a document, need be sacred. Again, the founders knew it was a fallible document and of course included an amendment process for when it needs to adapt.

I find it telling that because you believe I have a nasty outlook on the constitution, I must hate America.  Our founders debated over each provision, were they also un-American for arguing their views?

Maybe those confederates were  un-American for not agreeing with the abolition of slavery. Would you say that?  Or is it just people who don't agree with the glorious 2nd?

"Again, the founders knew it was a fallible document and of course included an amendment process for when it needs to adapt."

Based on that response I take it that Cpt.Obvious believes that 2nd amendment should be left as it is until it is amended?
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

Capt.Obvious

Quote from: supsalemgr on January 23, 2013, 12:56:27 PM
"Again, the founders knew it was a fallible document and of course included an amendment process for when it needs to adapt."

Based on that response I take it that Cpt.Obvious believes that 2nd amendment should be left as it is until it is amended?

Yes, something that likely will not happen unless it's a push from the right to clear up the language and remove the Well regulated militia part.

I am still governed by our constitution and therefore an American.

AndyJackson

You are clearly an American.

Your disdain or lack thereof for America is what defines what type of American you are.

We see this all the time from liberals.  "I'm the greatest Catholic ever because I'm always denigrating the church !".  "I'm the greatest American ever because I run around screaming loudly about everything that's wrong with America !".  "I'm an awesome patriot because I crap all over the military whenever possible !".

It doesn't really work that way.  We know that liberals like to claim that trashing and insulting and denigrating  is a way to "show you care, so much that you're fixing everything that's wrong".

A sincere, intelligent, non-juvenile person can speak reasonably about their beliefs, and those of others.  And accept the fact that they don't have a monopoly on "what's right".

"Mindlessly following" and "gun to their heads" indicate that you have no plans to do this.  And you certainly aren't as bad as many liberals, this much is true.

But you still have a little trouble understanding the difference between presenting a competing belief, and scoffing, mocking, insulting everything traditional and conservative.

But hey, you're in good company with your dear leader -

"Typical white person"
"Cops acted stupidly"
"Clinging to bibles and guns"
"Never proud of America before they elected Barack"
"You didn't build that"

supsalemgr

Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 23, 2013, 01:06:10 PM
Yes, something that likely will not happen unless it's a push from the right to clear up the language and remove the Well regulated militia part.

I am still governed by our constitution and therefore an American.

Thanks you.  :thumbup:
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

walkstall

Quote from: Shooterman on January 23, 2013, 12:41:27 PM
Has anyone heard from Harry?

I look in on the Loose Nut Forum occasionally, see most of the same children posting, and leave.

He posted to Droog just the other day in the Loose Nut Forum.  Just to say hi is all.  He is lurking but not posting.   As I am sure he is here also, I think he has just given himself a time out.
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Shooterman

Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 23, 2013, 01:06:10 PM
Yes, something that likely will not happen unless it's a push from the right to clear up the language and remove the Well regulated militia part.

I am still governed by our constitution and therefore an American.

What do you dislike about the well regulated militia clause?

What exactly was a 'well regulated militia' at the time?
There's no ticks like Polyticks-bloodsuckers all Davy Crockett 1786-1836

Yankees are like castor oil. Even a small dose is bad.
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Capt.Obvious

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Quote from: AndyJackson on January 23, 2013, 01:38:18 PM
You are clearly an American.

Your disdain or lack thereof for America is what defines what type of American you are.

We see this all the time from liberals.  "I'm the greatest Catholic ever because I'm always denigrating the church !".  "I'm the greatest American ever because I run around screaming loudly about everything that's wrong with America !".  "I'm an awesome patriot because I crap all over the military whenever possible !".

It doesn't really work that way.  We know that liberals like to claim that trashing and insulting and denigrating  is a way to "show you care, so much that you're fixing everything that's wrong".

A sincere, intelligent, non-juvenile person can speak reasonably about their beliefs, and those of others.  And accept the fact that they don't have a monopoly on "what's right".

"Mindlessly following" and "gun to their heads" indicate that you have no plans to do this.  And you certainly aren't as bad as many liberals, this much is true.

But you still have a little trouble understanding the difference between presenting a competing belief, and scoffing, mocking, insulting everything traditional and conservative.

But hey, you're in good company with your dear leader -

"Typical white person"
"Cops acted stupidly"
"Clinging to bibles and guns"
"Never proud of America before they elected Barack"
"You didn't build that"

Thank you for validating me, was kind of worried for s sec.  I am an American but also a citizen of the world, like Ben Franklin.

I find it interesting you accuse me of all sorts of things up to and including shitting on our military anytime I can.  VN war was before my time and I would have likely served or been drafted anyway, had I been alive then.  No, I would not have spit on our returning soldiers.

Go ahead and paint me into your little box labeled "liberals," If you must.  Going to be rather difficult to convince me of your world view if I'm constantly demonized.  Just a little debate tip, probably shouldn't piss all over the audience you wish to persuade.

AndyJackson

lol, their whole strategy is to change the meanings of everything in the constitution to what they want, under the guise of "living document" and ""things change".

2nd is only about "the army", though there was an army at that time, and they didn't say that.
14th is only about "a liberal president doing whatever he says must be done".
"Pursuit of happiness" is anything and everything a liberal feels like doing, no filth or crime excluded.

Capt.Obvious

Quote from: Shooterman on January 23, 2013, 01:46:04 PM
What do you dislike about the well regulated militia clause?

What exactly was a 'well regulated militia' at the time?

I don't mind that clause at all but you should.  You should amend it and remove that language, really make the 2nd clear.  Just pro tip, keep it for free.

AndyJackson

Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 23, 2013, 01:49:54 PM
Thank you for validating me, was kind of worries for s sec.  I am an American but also a citizen of the world, like Ben Franklin.

I find it interesting you accuse me of all sorts of things up to and including shitting on our military anytime I can.  VN war was before my time and I would have likely served or been drafted anyway, had I been alive then.  No, I would not have spit on our returning soldiers.

Go ahead and paint me into your little box labeled "liberals," If you must.  Going to be rather difficult to convince me of your world view if I'm constantly demonized.  Just a little debate tip, probably shouldn't piss all over the audience you wish to persuade.

I didn't tie you to anything military, or Vietnam.  Go back and read more closely.  Then reply honestly in your next post.

I don't care to persuade you of anything.  I'm commenting on your language and antics.

Why do liberals pretend they're not liberal  ?  That's always fascinated me.  I've always guessed that it's just part of the mosaic of never-ending little dishonesties that must propagate each liberal post (everything but the kitchen sink, lol).  But go ahead and correct me if it's something more interesting than that.