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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: Solar on November 25, 2018, 12:52:32 PM

Title: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2018, 12:52:32 PM
Trump closed the border, military responds with tear gas. Video at link, also on the same site, military copters flying recon.


https://twitter.com/nbcsandiego/status/1066781243872817152
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2018, 01:14:00 PM
Trump kept his word. When are libs going to understand, the man keeps his word.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ds4D45SV4AA3Bp0.jpg)
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Ranb on November 25, 2018, 02:51:58 PM
Trump closed the border,
Actually a single border crossing was closed.  The rest of the border remained open.
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Ranb on November 25, 2018, 02:54:20 PM
Trump kept his word. When are libs going to understand, the man keeps his word.


Trump has said;
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He would deport Syrian refugees; hasn't happened yet.
He called for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the USA; not happening.
He said he would not be the vacation president, looks like he actually is one.
He was unable to cancel funding to sanctuary cities.
He was unable to stop the AT&T, Time Warner merger.
He really hasn't gone anywhere with his promise to inivestigate Clinton
As far as I know he hasn't brought back waterboarding.
I still can't detuct my health care insurance premioums from my taxes.
Where are the lawsuits against his accusers of sexual misconduct? 
We still haven't seen his tax returns as he suggested we would.  It's completely legal to release them during an audit.
I haven't seen the new child care tax deductions yet.
He hasn't cut the current 7 tax brackets to 3.

I think Trump only does what is good for Trump and hardly anyone else.  That is why he will not visit the troops overseas but would rather they march in front of him.
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2018, 03:01:54 PM

Trump has said;
I think Trump only does what is good for Trump and hardly anyone else.  That is why he will not visit the troops overseas but would rather they march in front of him.
Post a link to that lie!
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Ranb on November 25, 2018, 03:09:38 PM
Post a link to that lie!
Okay!  Here you go!

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/caravan-rushes-border/?topicseen

Surely you understand the difference between a fact and an opinion.  In my opinion Trump only does what is good for Trump.   
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2018, 03:13:58 PM
Okay!  Here you go!

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/caravan-rushes-border/?topicseen

Surely you understand the difference between a fact and an opinion.  In my opinion Trump only does what is good for Trump.
I won't play this game with you anymmore, either post a link to this:

Quote
He would deport Syrian refugees; hasn't happened yet.
He called for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the USA; not happening.
He said he would not be the vacation president, looks like he actually is one.
He was unable to cancel funding to sanctuary cities.
He was unable to stop the AT&T, Time Warner merger.
He really hasn't gone anywhere with his promise to inivestigate Clinton
As far as I know he hasn't brought back waterboarding.
I still can't detuct my health care insurance premioums from my taxes.
Where are the lawsuits against his accusers of sexual misconduct? 
We still haven't seen his tax returns as he suggested we would.  It's completely legal to release them during an audit.
I haven't seen the new child care tax deductions yet.
He hasn't cut the current 7 tax brackets to 3.

Or you're out of here, I'm sick of your ignorant ass wasting our time and bandwidth with your stupid trolling.
So post the link where you got it.
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Ranb on November 25, 2018, 03:22:32 PM
I won't play this game with you anymmore, either post a link to this:

Or you're out of here, I'm sick of your ignorant ass wasting our time and bandwidth with your stupid trolling.
So post the link where you got it.
It's not like I have a link to this stuff.  I wrote up that list myself and put it in a quote to make it more readable.

It's mostly what I read on Fox News and other news sites.  I see lots of Trumps claims in writing; he makes a ton of them.  Everyone knows that. 

I also am interested in my taxes, immigration and health care.

Why do you think my claims are false?
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2018, 03:37:27 PM
It's not like I have a link to this stuff.  I wrote up that list myself and put it in a quote to make it more readable.

It's mostly what I read on Fox News and other news sites.  I see lots of Trumps claims in writing; he makes a ton of them.  Everyone knows that. 

I also am interested in my taxes, immigration and health care.

Why do you think my claims are false?
No, the onus is upon you to prove your claims correct, which I know you can't do, which is why I called you out to back up the lies.
So get to it, prove your bull shit, or take a hike, I'm sick and tried of you derailing threads, do it again, and you're gone troll!
And do it in another thread you create, because this is about illegal immigration, not about you!
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Ranb on November 25, 2018, 03:49:08 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34397272
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If I win, they're going back.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/1/16959158/syria-tps-trump-extension-mean
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The Trump administration considers the war in Syria such a dire humanitarian crisis that it’s doing something unusual: It’s not forcing Syrians who’ve been temporarily allowed to stay in the US for the past few years to return.
I have not been able to find a single case of a non-criminal Syrian refugee that was forced to leave the USA since Trump was elected.
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2018, 04:09:01 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34397272
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/1/16959158/syria-tps-trump-extension-meanI have not been able to find a single case of a non-criminal Syrian refugee that was forced to leave the USA since Trump was elected.
Are you fucking stupid? Are you trying to get banned?

"do it in another thread you create, because this is about illegal immigration, not about you!"
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: ConservativeInCT on November 25, 2018, 04:42:08 PM
Okay!  Here you go!

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/caravan-rushes-border/?topicseen

Surely you understand the difference between a fact and an opinion.  In my opinion Trump only does what is good for Trump.

You can't be saying stuff like that without having solid evidence
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: walkstall on November 25, 2018, 06:31:05 PM
It's not like I have a link to this stuff.  I wrote up that list myself and put it in a quote to make it more readable.



 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/EV1L1/114_bsflag.gif)
When you put it in quotes you were looking to pass it off as fact. 
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2018, 06:36:29 PM

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/EV1L1/114_bsflag.gif)
When you put it in quotes you were looking to pass it off as fact.
For some odd reason, he has a mental block and thinks the rest of the world is as stupid and gullible as he is.
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Bronx on November 26, 2018, 05:37:40 AM

Trump has said;
I think Trump only does what is good for Trump and hardly anyone else.  That is why he will not visit the troops overseas but would rather they march in front of him.



Why in the world would Donald J. Trump leave a billionaire's lifestyle...according to you.. "so he can have the troops overseas march in front of him"...... :lol:

Hey, Ranb you know how people say everyone has a twin...well guess what my friend I just found yours. You see the twin gene in you two...?

Sen. Brian Schatz who claim President Trump used chemical weapons on the fools that are trying to crash the border.... :lol:

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/11/26/uninformed-dem-senator-tweets-deletes-claim-us-border-patrol-is-using-chemical-weapons-on-migrants-696702

Title: UPDATE:::
Post by: Solar on November 26, 2018, 09:26:58 AM
Mexico deporting nearly 500 migrants after California border blitz

The Mexican government announced Sunday evening that it will deport nearly 500 migrants who rushed the U.S. border between Tijuana and San Diego, Calif.

In a statement, Mexico's interior department said these migrants were captured with the help of local authorities of the government from the state of Baja California and will be deported after attempting to cross the border "violently" and "illegally."

Videos and photos of the migrants, including children, crossing a footbridge over a canal in Tijuana as they headed to the border were posted to social media. The incident prompted both the U.S. and Mexico to shut down the port of entry on their respective sides.


U.S. border agents fired tear gas at some of the migrants as they tried to break through the border fence.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection announced Sunday evening that the San Ysidro port of entry had reopened for cars and pedestrians, and confirmed that multiple illegal entrants were apprehended by Border Patrol agents. CBP also confirmed that multiple U.S. Border Patrol agents hit by rocks, and in response CBP personnel were "required to deploy crowd dispersing devices, to include pepper ball launching systems, and CS canisters."

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said DHS would "not tolerate this type of lawlessness."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mexico-deporting-nearly-500-migrants-after-california-border-blitz
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: tac on November 26, 2018, 09:34:45 AM
Mexico would not have had this problem if they had stopped this invasion at their southern border.
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Solar on November 26, 2018, 09:40:41 AM
Mexico would not have had this problem if they had stopped this invasion at their southern border.
They need Captain Obvious to tell them. :biggrin:

Yeah, I think they just figured out Trump was never once bluffing when he told Mexico no illegals will be entering the country, I think they thought he'd cave like all spineless Pubs and let another wave of invaders flood our nation.
Now they're paying the ultimate price for not defending their own borders.
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: tac on November 26, 2018, 10:13:49 AM
Mexico has some of the most strict immigration laws in the world; too bad they didn't enforce them. It's possible they assumed that the USA would roll over and allow this invading hoard of illegals into the country. WRONG!

Needless to say, I am very happy that the President said NO and meant it, unlike some of our past spineless presidents.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Solar on November 26, 2018, 10:24:31 AM
Mexico has some of the most strict immigration laws in the world; too bad they didn't enforce them. It's possible they assumed that the USA would roll over and allow this invading hoard of illegals into the country. WRONG!

Needless to say, I am very happy that the President said NO and meant it, unlike some of our past spineless presidents.  :thumbup:
Isn't it odd, we too have a strict immigration system of laws as well, but Congress refused to fund it, instead, they funded welfare for illegals.
On the books, we have limits as to how many can enter the US from any given country, and when that number was reached, that was it.

I've mentioned this before, but it deserves repeating. In WWII Congress implemented the bracero act, because so many able bodied men were fighting the war, that there wasn't enough labor to harvest the fields.
The war ended, but agriculture loved the cheap labor so nothing changed.
Year after year Congress turned a blind eye to the problem because lobbyists lined their pockets.
Fast forward to the late 60s when the Dim party saw an entire untapped class of victims to exploit, in the early 70s the Dims forced the state of Ca to allow illegals the right to give birth in our hospitals unquestioned.
And so the decline began.
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: supsalemgr on November 26, 2018, 11:27:19 AM
Facebook and the news is full of BS from the left and democrats about Trump ordering tear gas attacks against the children. They are barking up the wrong tree with this strategy. The American people see what is going on and don't like it.
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Belenus on November 26, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
Meanwhile, as Ranb and others might just manufacture nonsense and pull "facts" from their lower cheeks, the friggin' UN is assisting the *caravan* invasion.

Most reasonable, rational Americans possessing a modicum of education knows full well the friggin' UN has been an organization of American-hating mongrels for decades.
Now we have this:
https://www.judicialwatch.org/video-update/on-watch-exposing-mainstream-media-lies-about-the-illegal-alien-invasion/?utm_source=deployer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=action+alert&utm_term=members&utm_content=20181126215254
Title: "Yes we can!" Whose slogan was that? Now the invasion claims it. Coincidence?
Post by: Belenus on November 26, 2018, 02:30:17 PM
OK, so you lost your memory and cannot recall what rock star, ill-prepared, severely challenged personage had that slogan ... I'll help:  OBAMA!

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/tear-gas-border/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=criticalimpact&utm_campaign=TPI_Morning_Newsletter_11_26_2018&utm_content=e5252b460855fe7fa6473c7b9fa19141&source=CI
Title: MSNBC Reporter In Mexico Refutes Media Narrative: Majority Of Caravan Are Men..
Post by: mrclose on November 26, 2018, 03:27:46 PM
MSNBC Reporter In Mexico Refutes Media Narrative: Majority Of Caravan Are Men, Not Seeking Asylum


A random act of journalism... It will not be tolerated! :scared:

The talking heads must have been "Shocked" to hear the truth!?
(The newswoman was making up stuff to fit her narrative. He gave a real report.)

Well, he’ll be looking for work soon. :cry:

Seeking 'asylum' for economic reasons (or "freebies") is not a valid reason to invade a country!

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MSNBC’s Gadi Schwartz refutes the media narrative by reporting from the ground in Mexico that the majority of people in the migrant caravan are not women and children, but rather men who are not seeking asylum (for the legal reasons)<--my words. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT0aMubKdAI

Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Billy's bayonet on November 27, 2018, 05:13:04 AM
This was pre planned by the organizers of the "Caravan" they needed an "Incident" to invoke sympathy for the gang of theives and drug dealers and human flesh peddlers that comprise the "caravan's" denizens. They failed.

This looks like a reason to shut down all border check point.... :thumbup:
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Belenus on November 27, 2018, 06:04:26 AM
This was pre planned by the organizers of the "Caravan" they needed an "Incident" to invoke sympathy for the gang of theives and drug dealers and human flesh peddlers that comprise the "caravan's" denizens. They failed.

This looks like a reason to shut down all border check point.... :thumbup:

Absolutely. Until things actually become reasonable and law-abiding, yes; shut the effer down... lock it up. How else will the southern neighbors and the world know we are not their door mat?
Title: Winning: Caravan migrants packing up and going home
Post by: tac on November 28, 2018, 04:48:47 AM
Winning: Caravan migrants packing up and going home

By Monica Showalter

You often see it at the bottom of news stories or in less prominently placed news stories, from the more serious local news outlets near the scene of the Tijuana caravan encampment:

Migrants are taking a look at the lay of the land and deciding to pack up and go home.

According to the San Diego Union-Tribune:

Outside the Benito Juárez migrant shelter in Tijuana, dozens stood in line Monday for a chance to return to their home country, a day after chaotic clashes at the border dimmed their hopes of entering the United States.Members of the Central American migrant caravan slumped in a line late afternoon to ask for return passage, after traveling for more than a month and trekking thousands of miles by foot, by bus and crammed into the beds of trucks for days.
<snip>
Obviously, the great grand bid to storm the gringo border and jump in and avail oneself of all the welfare benefits the U.S. has to offer, leftwing lawyers in tow, has failed, and migrants, as it turns out, with no fear of returning to their home countries after all, (contrary to their organizers' asylum arguments), are going home. Some of them even have the bus fare. Turns out the free stuff wasn't free. Their quest to enter the U.S. on Tijuana's hospitality is not popular. And the leftist organizers, promising these migrants instant entry as well as a Chavista-sized banquet of free stuff, courtesy of the gringos, stand exposed as frauds.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/11/winning_caravan_migrants_packing_up_and_going_home.html


 :thumbsup:

Big win for the WH. A Bush, Clinton or Obozo would have welcomed this invasion with open arms. I'm very happy the President stood him ground and didn't cave to the leftist media.

Title: Re: Winning: Caravan migrants packing up and going home
Post by: Solar on November 28, 2018, 05:44:13 AM
 :thumbup:
And so it begins.
From the original article. "I asked for asylum. I went up to the border and asked to come into the United States, but they said “No!” she said. “Maybe I’ll apply for asylum here, just so I can find another shelter, but there’s no way I’m going back to Honduras.”

 :lol:

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/sd-me-two-tents-20181126-story.html
Title: Re: Winning: Caravan migrants packing up and going home
Post by: supsalemgr on November 30, 2018, 09:28:53 AM
Notice how this story of the teargas has totally dried up with MSM and democrats? Once again their hypocrisy showed up with the reports on how the BP used similar tactics on many occasions under the Obama regime. It appears to me an urgent talking points e-mail was distributed for all to shut up about the incident.
Title: Illegal immigrant pulls gun on Border Patrol agent
Post by: mrclose on November 30, 2018, 05:44:50 PM

The Dems say the (Illegal) "immigrants" are not violent?

Reagan:
 Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so. :lol:


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Violence against Border Patrol agents continued to spiral this week with authorities reporting one agent held at gunpoint by an illegal immigrant in California, and two agents in Arizona facing attacks by hand.

In the California incident agents responded Monday morning to a report that two illegal immigrants had been detected crossing the border on foot. The first man was apprehended without any problem, but the second, Hector Rodriguez-Chavez, aimed a loaded Star Echeverria pistol at an agent.

The agent and Rodriguez struggled for the gun, and even the help of two other agents was not enough to pry the weapon from Rodriguez’s hand, the agents said in court documents.

Finally, one of the agents used his taser on Rodriguez, who dropped the pistol and stopped resisting.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/29/illegal-immigrant-pulls-gun-border-patrol-agent/
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: mrclose on November 30, 2018, 07:12:24 PM
BREAKING: Group Coaching Caravan Migrants to Gain Asylum Finally Revealed

“Al Otro Lado” = The other side

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According to new reports, a left-wing organization by the name of "Al Otro Lado" is now working closely with caravan migrants and coaching them on how to have the best chance to gain Asylum.

In addition, according to reporting from the Epoch Times, their goal is to train Caravan migrants into not only entering the U.S. but also scoring U.S. government benefits.

Epoch Times reported that the group is operating well-oiled asylum machine, and they are going into the camp to advise migrants on the process and how to deal with certain questions.

The organization's litigation director, Erika Pinheiro, was giving advice over a loudspeaker at the migrant camp at the Benito Juarez sports complex on Nov. 19.

The caravan of migrants that traveled from Honduras to Mexico includes foreign nationals pledging to abolish the U.S. immigration authorities, openly discussing their intent to illegally enter the U.S., and reading communist literature about overthrowing President Donald Trump, according to an in-depth report by journalists on the ground in Tijuana for the Epoch Times.


María Luisa Cáceres, who said she joined the caravan with her 15-year-old special needs son, told the paper “we are forced to” join the protests even though she did not plan to. Caceres was sleeping in a tent that said “Abolish ICE” and declined an offer of asylum by Mexico.

But she blamed the large number of male migrants who stormed past police at the border for creating a confrontation that led to her being tear gassed.

https://magavoter.com/breaking-group-coaching-caravan-migrants-to-gain-asylum-finally-revealed/?fbclid=IwAR2Wp511ZfteLMMtmkBFces7t0pkANiMdMUY8bjw0BfqvDLWDm6hXNknaF8

Title: Migrants announce plan to rush border (sat) to embarrass new Mexican president
Post by: mrclose on December 01, 2018, 12:45:45 AM

There are two links here.

The first link is to the titled site while the 2nd (At bottom) goes to the story on the screenshot.
(Both are relevant)

https://www.kusi.com/migrants-announce-plan-to-rush-border-to-embarrass-new-mexican-president/


 (https://i.postimg.cc/pr9sbr0q/00000000000000000.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Yvette Felarca is the leader.... one violent gal, ....Bamn stands for 'by any means necessary' and they take pleasure in their violence.

She's also the spokesperson for Antifa and BAMN....Felarca is a middle school teacher in Oakland, CA. She has been suspended multiple times for recruiting her students for Antifa and for violent protest such as The Battle of Berkley. She wields a lot of power in the teachers union and keeps being returned to her job where the whole cycle restarts.


http://www.bamn.com/openitup
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: Ranb on December 01, 2018, 11:19:04 AM
When you put it in quotes you were looking to pass it off as fact.
Since I was not quoting anyone, I was not "passing it off as fact"  But they are factual even if you don't believe them.

Why in the world would Donald J. Trump leave a billionaire's lifestyle...according to you.. "so he can have the troops overseas march in front of him"...... :lol:
Trump does want a military parade.  I did not suggest that he wanted to bring troops from overseas to march in front of him.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/planning-trump-s-military-parade-finally-getting-underway-n887431
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Trump got the idea for the parade while viewing France's Bastille Day Parade last summer. Naturally, he wanted it to be really big-league.

"We're going to have to try to top it," he later told French President Emmanuel Macron.
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: walkstall on December 01, 2018, 01:43:31 PM
Since I was not quoting anyone, I was not "passing it off as fact"  But they are factual even if you don't believe them.


(http://dontstepinthepoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/BullShit.jpg) 

Even Romper Room Kid Debater™ would not flinging poo like that and hope it will stick.  :lol:
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: mdgiles on December 03, 2018, 11:17:20 AM
The migrants looked at the news, and saw that rushing the border worked in Europe. They just assumed that the same tactics would work against the US. Oops!!!!!
Title: Re: Caravan Rushes Border
Post by: flash on December 05, 2018, 07:48:17 PM
I guess they found out Trump was not Merkel, Macron, and Mae....hope I spelled their name right....looks like 'M's' are having a bad run of it. 

seax :cool: