Superbly stated remarks today, as the UK elevated its 'terror-level' warning to Severe.

It's heartening to hear a real leader for a change.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2737724/Terror-attack-UK-highly-likely-warns-Home-Secretary-Theresa-May-threat-level-raised-severe.html

Quote from: kit saginaw on August 29, 2014, 03:18:36 PM
Superbly stated remarks today, as the UK elevated its 'terror-level' warning to Severe.

It's heartening to hear a real leader for a change.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2737724/Terror-attack-UK-highly-likely-warns-Home-Secretary-Theresa-May-threat-level-raised-severe.html

Big words. Big deal. England's populace has been essentially disarmed, and is helpless against any sort of terrorist attack.

Still, I agree that it's nice to hear a 'leader' actually say something worth listening to. We don't get much of that on this side of the Atlantic these days.

Quote from: TboneAgain on August 29, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
Big words. Big deal. England's populace has been essentially disarmed, and is helpless against any sort of terrorist attack.

Still, I agree that it's nice to hear a 'leader' actually say something worth listening to. We don't get much of that on this side of the Atlantic these days.

The Brits dont Fk around with terrorist threats, their primary unit to handle these people are the SAS, possibly the best special forces in the world, plenty of experience with the IRA

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 29, 2014, 05:29:46 PM

The Brits dont Fk around with terrorist threats, their primary unit to handle these people are the SAS, possibly the best special forces in the world, plenty of experience with the IRA

That's like saying we in the US will depend on the Navy Seals -- and ONLY the Navy Seals -- in the case of a cross-border incursion and for everyday crime prevention. I have nothing but respect for the SAS, but come on.

Quote from: TboneAgain on August 29, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
Big words. Big deal. England's populace has been essentially disarmed, and is helpless against any sort of terrorist attack.

Still, I agree that it's nice to hear a 'leader' actually say something worth listening to. We don't get much of that on this side of the Atlantic these days.

If by the term "armed" you refer to "armed" as for example "armed" is used in our second amendment.

England was never "armed" to start with.

The right to keep and bear arms, wasn't just thrown in there because the founders liked to hunt.

LOL That made it into the bill of rights for lots of reasons. But the big two, main reasons, were to A: empower the people themselves to act as a "check" on the power of the Federal Government.

And B: because at the time, an English citizen who was just a "commoner" or what is otherwise known as a "peasant" could not legally own "weapons of warfare" as it was called back then.

Yep that's right, in England even back then, it was against the law to be "armed".

If you weren't in the military, or police, or Royal guards, etc....

Quote from: TboneAgain on August 29, 2014, 07:40:04 PM
That's like saying we in the US will depend on the Navy Seals -- and ONLY the Navy Seals -- in the case of a cross-border incursion and for everyday crime prevention. I have nothing but respect for the SAS, but come on.

SEAL Team 6 was our best. Delta Force, SpecOps people (under a number of acronyms and agencies)....there's a lot of very violent talent out there. Mix in the mercenaries like "Mad Mike" Hoare's types and this adds up to some phenomenal kickass capability. But I don't think any are the world's best. Some are just less lethal than others.

Quote from: daidalos on August 29, 2014, 07:55:17 PM
If by the term "armed" you refer to "armed" as for example "armed" is used in our second amendment.

England was never "armed" to start with.

Perhaps not to the same degree, but they certainly used to have a strong gun culture:

QuoteThat is, if they handed them in at all. Up until the '70s, especially in rural areas, it was commonplace to see kids entering and leaving their school campuses with rifle bags slung lazily over their backs. Guns were left in school lockers, and rifles and shotguns were routinely seen in high-school parking lots, hanging in the rear windows of pickup trucks. A good friend of mine is from North Dakota. His father was telling me recently that in the late 1960s he would hunt before school and then take his rifle — and his bloodstained kills — to school to show his teachers. He and his friends would compare their shooting techniques in the school grounds. Nobody batted an eyelid. In North Dakota, school shootings were non-existent; in the country at large, they were extremely rare.

Despite my having been to school in England, this is not too strange a scene to me. Had you come through my school's gates on a Thursday afternoon, you might have been horrified to see me, along with a motley collection of boys and girls, 16 to 18 years old, dressed in the camouflage of the Combined Cadet Force and carrying SA-80s around. An SA-80 is the standard-issue rifle used by the British army. It would be accurately described as an "assault rifle," and it is a sufficiently serious piece of equipment to have been given to British soldiers fighting in both Iraq wars and in Afghanistan, Sierra Leone, Kosovo, Bosnia, and Northern Ireland. We had to learn strict gun safety. We had to disassemble and reassemble our guns under timed conditions. We had to shoot them at targets that were shaped like men. Once, at the school's firing range, we even fired a machine gun.

The clay-pigeon shooting group was one of my school's strongest sports teams, and its members would walk nonchalantly around with their shotguns in bags. Sometimes, they would even take their locked guns to lessons and prop them up against the wall. All of our teachers survived the ordeal.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2980293/posts

The British have the most race-based legal and employment policies in Europe and strict hate speech laws.

Add to that the white brits have a nihilistic "chav" culture which is worse than any ghetto black culture, though I guess they are equally comical in their style, but these chavs can't exactly blame slavery for their behavior.

      EDL demonstration  at #10 Downing Street  2nd week in Sept. 2014.
       On the schedule. Be there or be square. 

Quote from: red_dirt on August 30, 2014, 07:31:21 AM
      EDL demonstration  at #10 Downing Street  2nd week in Sept. 2014.
       On the schedule. Be there or be square. 

EDL doesn't have any support among the majority of the population unlike UKIP. EDL though they are not really racist (they support Jews and Israel) are suffering from a overtly racist profile and can never succeed. A clearer description would be British cultural-supremacists, they just want their country back. You Americans don't seem to understand the effect National Socialist Germany had on Europe, any organization that is seen to be overtly racist reminiscent of the NSDAP will fail. At least until the older generation that suffered through 1940's have died off, and even then moderate conservatives who are not racist would not want anything to do with them.

Salvation of Europe lies with the moderate conservatives, only they have won majority and continue to gain in support, the worst thing that can happen is for EDL, Golden Dawn organizations to start destroying this coalition.

Wow. Never been called a chav before.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 30, 2014, 09:36:16 AM
Wow. Never been called a chav before.

Do you casually dress in designer sports wear?
LOL! Bert, are those Speedos you're sportin?
First I ever heard the term.

QuoteChav: (informal) term for a person of working class origin, usually poorly educated, casually dressed in sportswear and designer labels (usually derogatory)

Usually derogatory? How about always derogatory...

Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2014, 09:41:10 AM
Do you casually dress in designer sports wear?
LOL! Bert, are those Speedos you're sportin?
First I ever heard the term.
Usually derogatory? How about always derogatory...

I can't think of a term that's ALWAYS derogatory. The Left preaches to us that the word 'nigger' is so overarchingly derogatory and evil that it can't even be spoken or printed, but must be referred to as the clinical 'n-word.' Yet I've heard it used many times as a term of welcome or even endearment between black people.

Perhaps a better use for the phrase 'n-word' would be to apply it to Nazis. Now THERE is a term that is pretty much always derogatory.

Quote from: Mountainshield on August 30, 2014, 07:40:45 AM
EDL doesn't have any support among the majority of the population unlike UKIP. EDL though they are not really racist (they support Jews and Israel) are suffering from a overtly racist profile and can never succeed.

     Racism? How did that enter a discussion, here? Of course the support of a grass roots anti-Sharia protest is not going to be overtly supported by the population. Have any idea what the British government has done to EDL leadership? Before the EDL came along, there were 20-40 Moslem on Brit knife attacks every weekend in London, many on children. The Islamic anti military demos were out of control. The police were hands off Moslems. That is the situation that existed pre EDL, pre Dutch POV, pre 9-11 USA.

Quote from: Mountainshield on August 30, 2014, 07:40:45 AM
       Salvation of Europe lies with the moderate conservatives, only they have won majority and continue to gain in support, the worst thing that can happen is for EDL, Golden Dawn organizations to start destroying this coalition.

       The moderate conservative coalition has no more chance of success
in Britain than it does the USA. Moderate Conservative Coalition in both
means the same, "Don't rock the boat."  In the meanwhile, the population
suffers, silently.   

Wow. Not only are we a group of low class nihilistic hooligans but apparently we have absolutely no capabilities of defending ourselves. I had no idea we were this lame. We should just give up now.