Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 21, 2014, 11:13:31 PM
What exactly do you expect this congress, a congress that has but a few days left before a boatload of liberals and RINOS pack their bags and depart to do? Fists off some of the things Obama has done has to be challenged in the courts. That is out of congress' hands. Not to mention going through the courts can take years. Secondly laws take time to write. Especially if you are dealing with something as complex and emotional as immigration reform. Finally what sense does it make to go after Obama now when in a few weeks leadership and chairmanships will change? Ina few weeks the GOP will have unprecedented influence and control and they are more conservative then they have been in decades. Wouldn't you rather it be them that takes Obama to task? What could they possibly accomplish now with Reid still in control?

If you recall, Obama has already been challenged in the courts.  He declared executive privilege.  He refused to comply.  Do you really think that the outcome is going to be any different with a newly elected GOP majority and a newly elected attorney general?

Impeachment is the only viable solution that will work.  America voted. America wants his overreach stopped.

Quote from: Darth Fife on November 22, 2014, 11:09:06 PM
This didn't happen overnight. It didn't start with Bush - either of them.

It started with Wilson and both Roosevelts and the Kennedys and the Clintons...

The Progressives started this ball rolling about a hundred years ago, the Marxists co-opted the movement in the late 50s and early 60s. By the 70s the Democrat Party was nearly 100% Socialist, and a majority of the Republican Party was Progressive. 

From there, things just got worse!

Thinking a new Congress or even a new president will change things is naive. This perfect storm you speak of has been building for over 100 years. Its damage won't be undone in a the tenure of a single president or Congress.

It will take decades to undo what the Socialists and the Progressives have done to this country - even if it can be undone.

Darth

Comprehension an issue?

"It's true, the super storm was already brewing with the Marxist plan, as part of their agenda they created the "Bush is Evil mantra" "

I never claimed it started under Bush, I said it was "Part" of the Marxist agenda.
So to use the straw man claim that I insinuated an all out reversal of the past 100 years is a false premise as well as weak.
I'm a realist, you'll never kill off Marxist ideals, ever.

Get some new glasses, though something tells me you see only what you want to see.

Quote from: suzziY on November 23, 2014, 05:39:09 AM
If you recall, Obama has already been challenged in the courts.  He declared executive privilege.  He refused to comply.  Do you really think that the outcome is going to be any different with a newly elected GOP majority and a newly elected attorney general?

Impeachment is the only viable solution that will work.  America voted. America wants his overreach stopped.

It is clear you do not understand the impeachment and removal from office process.

Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2014, 07:32:24 AM
I'm a realist, you'll never kill off Marxist ideals, ever.

There was a time, the founding of this country to be precise, when the same thing was thought about slavery.

"No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due."

Article IV, Section 2, Clause 3, Constitution of the United States

However, history proved otherwise!

We can do it! We can make the concepts of Marx and Engles as abhorrent to the Average American as smoking is today! And, the best part is, unlike the Progressives, we don't have to lie to do it. All we have to do is tell the truth -  and keep telling it over and over until it sinks in!

Darth

Quote from: Darth Fife on November 23, 2014, 08:37:34 AM
There was a time, the founding of this country to be precise, when the same thing was thought about slavery.

"No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due."

Article IV, Section 2, Clause 3, Constitution of the United States

However, history proved otherwise!

We can do it! We can make the concepts of Marx and Engles as abhorrent to the Average American as smoking is today! And, the best part is, unlike the Progressives, we don't have to lie to do it. All we have to do is tell the truth -  and keep telling it over and over until it sinks in!

Darth

And your example is as flawed as is Marxist ideals.
Slavery is alive and well in the world, as is the idealistic vision of a communist state.

There will always be people that pursue the grip of ultimate power, as do those that wish to enslave others for power and profit.
You cant outlaw human nature and it's need of dominion to conquer it's domain.

Did we not outlaw murder?

Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2014, 08:46:45 AM
And your example is as flawed as is Marxist ideals.
Slavery is alive and well in the world, as is the idealistic vision of a communist state.

But slavery is dead in the United States.

Let's save the U.S. from falling into the grips of Communism, first. Then we can think about saving the rest of the world...

...first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."

Matthew 7:5

Darth

Quote from: Darth Fife on November 23, 2014, 08:52:51 AM
But slavery is dead in the United States.

Let's save the U.S. from falling into the grips of Communism, first. Then we can think about saving the rest of the world...

...first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."

Matthew 7:5

Darth

Slavery is an action, Marxism is an idea/ideal. You cannot outlaw a belief, even slavers knew you couldn't stop slaves from yearning for their freedom as an ideal.

Dont know if you respect Mark Levin's opinion, but he shares my concern about Congress just leaving for Thanksgiving.  He said something to the effect that they are hoping in a couple months, they really won't have to do anything.  That something distracts our attention, and it can just fade away.

I am sick and tired of it right now.  I have been very involved for over twenty years.  I am now wondering if is all worth it anymore.  My dad even has said he regrets fighting for what this country has become.  It saddens me to say I feel we are leaving a lesser version of this country than what we were given.

You have an opposition party too afraid to stand up to the msm and says what they won't do.  I believe a lot of the country would actually support them IF they stood strongly.  They just let statements stand like "we can't deport them."  Why the hell not?  I am done with caring if no one takes care of this.  Like anyone would care!

DaisyJane.   

If stranded on an Island (Like TV Series "LOST ")  and you had a little AM Radio (Like one on Gilligans Island ) that would only get signal of three AM radio shows (ALL politically oriented hosts) which would you choose ? My choices are (1) El Rushbo (2) Levin (3) Savage

Quote from: supsalemgr on November 23, 2014, 08:23:03 AM
It is clear you do not understand the impeachment and removal from office process.

It is also clear that she does not understand how someone becomes the U.S. Attorney General. It is not an "elected" position. AGs are appointed by the president, and approved by the Senate.

Testimony to the lack of Civics education in the public screwls. 

C'mon Daisey You don;t know how Washington Works, What you think is gonna happen between now and January when the Pubs take the senate.....not much. dON'T FORGET THE DEMS ARE LEAVING TOWN TOO

All the good little Gov Bureacrats are using up their comp time and vacation days and sick days to go out and party it up. Washington becomes a ghost town in August and DECEMBER.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 23, 2014, 05:07:11 PM
C'mon Daisey You don;t know how Washington Works, What you think is gonna happen between now and January when the Pubs take the senate.....not much. dON'T FORGET THE DEMS ARE LEAVING TOWN TOO

All the good little Gov Bureacrats are using up their comp time and vacation days and sick days to go out and party it up. Washington becomes a ghost town in August and DECEMBER.

The "she" I was referring to was suzziY. I hope you have some shiny new reasons for picking on DaisyJane.

Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 23, 2014, 01:52:54 PM
If stranded on an Island (Like TV Series "LOST ")  and you had a little AM Radio (Like one on Gilligans Island ) that would only get signal of three AM radio shows (ALL politically oriented hosts) which would you choose ? My choices are (1) El Rushbo (2) Levin (3) Savage

I'd have to ditch Savage after his remarks about Vet's and PTSD.

I don't know anyone who is nearly as impressed with Michael Savage as he is with himself!

Maybe Laura Ingram would be good, or Inga Bartz!

Darth