Quote from: DaisyJane on November 21, 2014, 04:16:48 PM
I am well aware that the new Congress isn't in until January. 

However, I feel, if they were really serious, they would have stayed in Washington and worked on putting a STOP to this.  Nothing has a sense of urgency?  They would be making plans on dealing with the 100,000 children who invaded the country this summer. 

How about making sure there are no benefits to people who are here illegally?  Why does everyone keep saying "we cannot possibly deport people?"  Why the hell not?  What about what this costs to the American people?

Now that what they really care about is over, reelection, they can focus on what is really important.  That is who the leaders are, who is on what committee, how can we not offend Latinos, etc.

These people will NEVER go anywhere the way things have been going.  You get any idea that ONE PERSON won't stay here for good - not 3 years of delay?  Any reason to think Obama won't do more?  He has nothing to lose no matter what his own party says!

Yes, the best predictor of the future is the past.  We're going to fix this - good bye for now.  Got to go for Thanksgiving.

DaisyJane     

Harry Reid is still in a position to play blocker on anything that would cross Obama. I'll bet there are plenty representatives working on this now and something will be happening when they return. We don't want a knee jerk response besides I don't want the Lame duck Senate pushing through a bunch of crap. If their in recess all the better. To bad it's not until January!!

Quote from: Solar on November 21, 2014, 11:41:08 AM
Did it ever occur to you that maybe not everyone shares your pessimism, that just maybe they're as tired of hearing it as I am?
Look for something good to post, like how TEA/Sessions is kicking rino ass, anything but this shit!

Was this amnesty or wasn't it?  The people I respect say it is.  I say it absolutely is.  I don't want to be rude, after all, this is your playground, but you seem out of touch as to what REALLY happened Nov 4th.  Yeah, Dems took a beating, but that doesn't mean the American People woke up and embraced Conservative principles.  All that happened, was the FAR Left wasn't motivated to vote this cycle. They didn't die off.

Like I said from the beginning, Obama couldn't care less about saving his PARTY. He's pushing his ideology as far as he's allowed. Nobody has or will stop him, and once something is done, it's NEVER undone.  We won't UNDO amnesty and his actions will create a tidal wave of new "immigrants."  The DHS has even said to prepare for it.

http://www.alipac.us/f9/laura-ingraham-obama-dhs-reporting-huge-new-wave-illegal-immigrants-crossing-303633/

Quote from: carlb on November 21, 2014, 06:12:19 PM
Was this amnesty or wasn't it?  The people I respect say it is.  I say it absolutely is.  I don't want to be rude, after all, this is your playground, but you seem out of touch as to what REALLY happened Nov 4th.  Yeah, Dems took a beating, but that doesn't mean the American People woke up and embraced Conservative principles.  All that happened, was the FAR Left wasn't motivated to vote this cycle. They didn't die off.

Like I said from the beginning, Obama couldn't care less about saving his PARTY. He's pushing his ideology as far as he's allowed. Nobody has or will stop him, and once something is done, it's NEVER undone.  We won't UNDO amnesty and his actions will create a tidal wave of new "immigrants."  The DHS has even said to prepare for it.

http://www.alipac.us/f9/laura-ingraham-obama-dhs-reporting-huge-new-wave-illegal-immigrants-crossing-303633/

That's true.  We've been a conservative country.

Quote from: taxed on November 21, 2014, 06:13:35 PM
That's true.  We've been a conservative country.

The relentless assault by the MSM & academia & haters of america of all stripes for last 75 +years is paying dividends

Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 21, 2014, 06:17:54 PM
The relentless assault by the MSM & academia & haters of america of all stripes for last 75 +years is paying dividends

How so?

Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 21, 2014, 05:15:07 PM
How red is that border map south of the border ?

What in the Hell is that supposed to mean?

Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 21, 2014, 06:17:54 PM
The relentless assault by the MSM & academia & haters of america of all stripes for last 75 +years is paying dividends

And guess what? They are about to get the Bill for all of it!

Quote from: carlb on November 21, 2014, 06:12:19 PM
Was this amnesty or wasn't it?  The people I respect say it is.  I say it absolutely is.  I don't want to be rude, after all, this is your playground, but you seem out of touch as to what REALLY happened Nov 4th.

You're under the illusion that suddenley every illegal in the country just became citizens, they didn't!

And you claim you don't want to be rude yet claim this is some kind of "Playground"?
Give me a break. I pay a lot of money out of my own pocket so as to give Conservatives a voice, I take this very serious, and like it or not, I and Taxed have an agenda, and it does not include pissy whining about the future, a future I predicted going back two years, that came to fruition.

So if you think I'm saying all this from a purely optimistic POV, you're sadly mistaken.

 

QuoteYeah, Dems took a beating, but that doesn't mean the American People woke up and embraced Conservative principles.  All that happened, was the FAR Left wasn't motivated to vote this cycle. They didn't die off.

Then you didn't read the exit polling or the poll results where the lib base did a protest vote by not voting.
I did, I've seen the numbers, nearly half the base and 90% of the youth vote refused to support the dims, in fact, nearly half the youth vote did vote, just not for libs.

QuoteLike I said from the beginning, Obama couldn't care less about saving his PARTY. He's pushing his ideology as far as he's allowed. Nobody has or will stop him, and once something is done, it's NEVER undone.

Technically correct, but we've had the establishment in charge for decades, and that precedent doesn't mean a thing anymore, now that the rino are being relegated tyo the back of the room.

QuoteWe won't UNDO amnesty and his actions will create a tidal wave of new "immigrants."  The DHS has even said to prepare for it.

What amnesty, an EO, seriously?

Quote from: taxed on November 21, 2014, 12:24:49 PM
The only destruction he's going to do is on the Democrat party.

??? What about his destruction to the country??  He has bypassed Congress and acted on his OWN.  In other words, Obama doesn't give a damn and in essence has made Congress ineffective.  The actions of the new GOP House and Senate in the first several weeks will speak volumes. 

Yep, we definitely kicked butt in the mid terms.  Those votes are screaming very loudly ... damn it, somebody do something!  The reality is; the emperor still has veto power.  The emperor can still utilize his executive powers.  534 members of Congress failed to stop him. We'll see who has the most power ... the newly elected GOP majority or the emperor.

Quote from: carlb on November 21, 2014, 06:12:19 PM
Was this amnesty or wasn't it?  The people I respect say it is.  I say it absolutely is.  I don't want to be rude, after all, this is your playground, but you seem out of touch as to what REALLY happened Nov 4th.  Yeah, Dems took a beating, but that doesn't mean the American People woke up and embraced Conservative principles.  All that happened, was the FAR Left wasn't motivated to vote this cycle. They didn't die off.

Like I said from the beginning, Obama couldn't care less about saving his PARTY. He's pushing his ideology as far as he's allowed. Nobody has or will stop him, and once something is done, it's NEVER undone.  We won't UNDO amnesty and his actions will create a tidal wave of new "immigrants."  The DHS has even said to prepare for it.

http://www.alipac.us/f9/laura-ingraham-obama-dhs-reporting-huge-new-wave-illegal-immigrants-crossing-303633/

I agree.  Obama has already been re-elected.  He doesn't care about you, me, his party, this country, Congress or the Constitution.  His agenda was to destroy this country and transform it.  He is making his dreams come true.  This country has been invaded.  Legal American citizens will become the minority.  Illegals will within a short time become the new majority.

Does anyone really think for a minute that this new tidal wave of illegals are going to obey our laws or honor our Constitution when the Marxist in charge doesn't?

The ONLY way this is going to stop is somehow removing him from office which is going to take a miracle.  Uncle Joe is looking damn good right now.

Quote from: suzziY on November 21, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
I agree.  Obama has already been re-elected.  He doesn't care about you, me, his party, this country, Congress or the Constitution.  His agenda was to destroy this country and transform it.  He is making his dreams come true.  This country has been invaded.  Legal American citizens will become the minority.  Illegals will within a short time become the new majority.

Does anyone really think for a minute that this new tidal wave of illegals are going to obey our laws or honor our Constitution when the Marxist in charge doesn't?

The ONLY way this is going to stop is somehow removing him from office which is going to take a miracle.  Uncle Joe is looking damn good right now.

Come on Suzzi,do you really need to be so dramatic?
What is roughly 10% of 300 million?
Is that what you consider a majority

Quote from: DaisyJane on November 21, 2014, 10:00:23 AM
Congress is leaving Washington for their Thanksgiving holiday.

There are no obvious plans to combat Obama's actions. 

I remember the outrage when we heard all the stories about the "unaccompanied children?"  I don't hear it anymore.

It kind of seems like let them get used to the idea and then we really don't have to do anything substantial.  Let's put it off and hope they forget about it. 

This has been the pattern.  Obama just gets away with everything.  He has 2 more years to hurt us.

Can't help but be cynical it will be much business as usual.  El President thinks so.

DaisyJane   

Who would you rather have deal with immigration, this congress or the next one which is more conservative and in the majority?

Quote from: taxed on November 21, 2014, 07:14:57 PM
How so?

Sanctuary Cities led to a Sanctuary State and then a Sanctuary Country for starters, creeping acceptance of Gay Marriage, Choice to point of fourth trimester abortions, and assimilation of immigrants no longer lauded as paramount.

Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 21, 2014, 09:05:54 PM
Sanctuary Cities led to a Sanctuary State and then a Sanctuary Country for starters, creeping acceptance of Gay Marriage, Choice to point of fourth trimester abortions, and assimilation of immigrants no longer lauded as paramount.

Excuse me, but I thought you just said 'fourth trimester abortions.' Did I read that right?

Unfettered choice is heading that way (seemingly)