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California judge blocks Trump order on sanctuary city money
« on: April 25, 2017, 05:07:54 PM »
I must be totally out of touch ...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/25/california-judge-blocks-trump-order-on-sanctuary-city-money.html

"The news comes on the heels of the Department of Justice threatening on Friday to cut off funding to eight so-called “sanctuary cities,” unless they were able to provide proof to the federal government that they weren’t looking the other way when it came to undocumented immigrants."

"San Francisco and Santa Clara County argued that the administration warning threatened billions of dollars in funding for each of them, making it difficult to plan budgets."

"In his ruling, Orrick sided with San Francisco and Santa Clara, saying the order "by its plain language, attempts to reach all federal grants, not merely the three mentioned at the hearing."

I'm at a loss on how a judge can restrict POTUS for directing the executive branch via EO to uphold the law and coerce cities to uphold the law. That's his job! Illegal immigrants are by definition illegal. How can a judge stay such a thing? He's approving of people that are helping others break the law - that should be grounds for getting dismissed, right? I've never witnessed a judge getting fired - it's time it happens. Isn't there some kind of Hippocratic oath that these guys take?

I guess it has to roll-over to another court to get a second look - takes a lot of time. I haven't heard where the previous EO on staying entry of immigrants from certain countries has gone. Will it be heard by a higher court in a week, month, year, ten years?


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Re: California judge blocks Trump order on sanctuary city money
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2017, 05:25:05 PM »
The judge is full of shit, he can't, he simply hasn't the power to change anything.
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Re: California judge blocks Trump order on sanctuary city money
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2017, 05:29:43 PM »
Never hold up in the SCOTUS.


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Re: California judge blocks Trump order on sanctuary city money
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2017, 07:28:22 PM »
The judge is full of shit, he can't, he simply hasn't the power to change anything.

I guess it's an individual filing a law suit; you can sue someone for anything ... but may not win. It seems that any US District Court judge can strike down an order based his interpretation of the order, or perceived intention of the order, or someone's intention on the intent of the order? And there doesn't seem to be any consequence.

This is posted about the 9th District Court:

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But in 2010, perhaps seeking to reclaim its position at the top of the heap, the Ninth Circuit was reversed a startling 19 times (79 percent), three times as many reversals as most circuits had cases before the Supreme Court. The same pattern continued in the 2011 (71 percent) and 2012 terms (86 percent), when the Ninth Circuit was reversed more than twice as many times as most circuits had cases before the Court.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/liberal-ninth-circuit-court-overturned-average-80-time/

So they keep making bad judgements and there is no consequence. Incidentally, if 19 overturns is 79% of the cases then that means they only heard 19/0.79 = 24 cases in 2010 and another court had to redo their work in 19 of these cases. The quote above also says that most circuit courts have less than half this many cases - that would be less than 10 cases per year. Doesn't seem like we're getting our money's worth from the circuit court judges. Maybe just put them on a part-time wage with no insurance. I'm still hoping the govt. shuts down ... and they don't get back pay. I'm not sure much of the non-govt. working class will notice.

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Re: California judge blocks Trump order on sanctuary city money
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2017, 07:42:31 PM »
This must change !

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Re: California judge blocks Trump order on sanctuary city money
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2017, 10:09:24 PM »
So they keep making bad judgements and there is no consequence. Incidentally, if 19 overturns is 79% of the cases then that means they only heard 19/0.79 = 24 cases in 2010 and another court had to redo their work in 19 of these cases. The quote above also says that most circuit courts have less than half this many cases - that would be less than 10 cases per year. Doesn't seem like we're getting our money's worth from the circuit court judges. Maybe just put them on a part-time wage with no insurance. I'm still hoping the govt. shuts down ... and they don't get back pay. I'm not sure much of the non-govt. working class will notice.

It probably means that that's how many cases each of those courts had
for which the Supreme Court chose to hear an appeal.

Those lower courts probably had many more cases that were not appealed,
or the higher court declined to hear an appeal.
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Re: California judge blocks Trump order on sanctuary city money
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2017, 02:31:52 AM »
I guess it's an individual filing a law suit; you can sue someone for anything ... but may not win. It seems that any US District Court judge can strike down an order based his interpretation of the order, or perceived intention of the order, or someone's intention on the intent of the order? And there doesn't seem to be any consequence.

This is posted about the 9th District Court:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/liberal-ninth-circuit-court-overturned-average-80-time/

So they keep making bad judgements and there is no consequence. Incidentally, if 19 overturns is 79% of the cases then that means they only heard 19/0.79 = 24 cases in 2010 and another court had to redo their work in 19 of these cases. The quote above also says that most circuit courts have less than half this many cases - that would be less than 10 cases per year. Doesn't seem like we're getting our money's worth from the circuit court judges. Maybe just put them on a part-time wage with no insurance. I'm still hoping the govt. shuts down ... and they don't get back pay. I'm not sure much of the non-govt. working class will notice.
This is why it's called the Ninth Circus.
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Re: California judge blocks Trump order on sanctuary city money
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2017, 05:10:38 AM »
I must be totally out of touch ...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/25/california-judge-blocks-trump-order-on-sanctuary-city-money.html

"The news comes on the heels of the Department of Justice threatening on Friday to cut off funding to eight so-called “sanctuary cities,” unless they were able to provide proof to the federal government that they weren’t looking the other way when it came to undocumented immigrants."

"San Francisco and Santa Clara County argued that the administration warning threatened billions of dollars in funding for each of them, making it difficult to plan budgets."

"In his ruling, Orrick sided with San Francisco and Santa Clara, saying the order "by its plain language, attempts to reach all federal grants, not merely the three mentioned at the hearing."

I'm at a loss on how a judge can restrict POTUS for directing the executive branch via EO to uphold the law and coerce cities to uphold the law. That's his job! Illegal immigrants are by definition illegal. How can a judge stay such a thing? He's approving of people that are helping others break the law - that should be grounds for getting dismissed, right? I've never witnessed a judge getting fired - it's time it happens. Isn't there some kind of Hippocratic oath that these guys take?

I guess it has to roll-over to another court to get a second look - takes a lot of time. I haven't heard where the previous EO on staying entry of immigrants from certain countries has gone. Will it be heard by a higher court in a week, month, year, ten years?

As I understand the judge's findings the funds cannot be withheld if the sanctuary city can prove they are cooperating with the feds. That is a big deal as the leftists running these cities would never say they are not sanctuary cities.
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Re: California judge blocks Trump order on sanctuary city money
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2017, 08:07:42 AM »
Never hold up in the SCOTUS.

So then hold up the funds until there's a Supreme Court ruling.

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Re: California judge blocks Trump order on sanctuary city money
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2017, 08:23:21 AM »
So then hold up the funds until there's a Supreme Court ruling.

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Re: California judge blocks Trump order on sanctuary city money
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2017, 09:44:19 AM »
There are so many ways around this, Trump could wait until congress submits a budget and then line item veto funds to ALL American cities. I'm wondering if he could do it State by State?

If it were me, I order the justice dept and treasury to do an audit of all federal funding into those democrat held cities to see what the books look like. You just know there is all sorts of fraud, misappropriation and mishandling of federal funds going on with the bunch of corrupt crooks who hold office in major cities. Then you start indicting people.

Trump and Sessions are trying to play it safe until they can get the proper people in the Judiciary.

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Re: California judge blocks Trump order on sanctuary city money
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2017, 03:02:01 PM »
There are so many ways around this, Trump could wait until congress submits a budget
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God knows that's not gonna happen. :biggrin:
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