This is what happens when you give to much power to invirowhackos. This is how they passed the job killing AB32 laws.  Every last CARB employee should be fired and the unconstitutional board shut down. Liars, every last one of them. Everything you purchase is higher in this state because of these people, and it will get even more expensive if this law goes into effect. Vote YES on 23 multiple times if you can. Then kill the bill before it destroys this state even more.
Mary Nichols, chairwoman of the California Air Resources Board should be fired immediately. Appointed by Moonbeam Brown when Governor in 78.These radicals need to be stopped.


Overestimate fueled state's landmark diesel law
Wyatt Buchanan, Chronicle Sacramento Bureau

San Francisco Chronicle October 8, 2010 04:00 AM Copyright San Francisco Chronicle. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. 
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California grossly miscalculated pollution levels in a scientific analysis used to toughen the state's clean-air standards, and scientists have spent the past several months revising data and planning a significant weakening of the landmark regulation, The Chronicle has found.

The pollution estimate in question was too high - by 340 percent, according to the California Air Resources Board, the state agency charged with researching and adopting air quality standards. The estimate was a key part in the creation of a regulation adopted by the Air Resources Board in 2007, a rule that forces businesses to cut diesel emissions by replacing or making costly upgrades to heavy-duty, diesel-fueled off-road vehicles used in construction and other industries.

The staff of the powerful and widely respected Air Resources Board said the overestimate is largely due to the board calculating emissions before the economy slumped, which halted the use of many of the 150,000 diesel-exhaust-spewing vehicles in California. Independent researchers, however, found huge overestimates in the air board's work on diesel emissions and attributed the flawed work to a faulty method of calculation - not the economic downturn.

The overestimate, which comes after another bad calculation by the air board on diesel-related deaths that made headlines in 2009, prompted the board to suspend the regulation this year while officials decided whether to weaken the rule.

Proposal announced
On Thursday, after months of work, the air board and construction industry officials announced a proposal that includes delaying the start of the requirements until 2014 and exempting more vehicles from the rule. It would be a major scaling back of the rule if the air board approves it in a vote scheduled for December. The announcement was made as The Chronicle was preparing to publish this report, which had been in the works for several weeks.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/10/07/BAOF1FDMRV.DTL#ixzz11mw7m700

I'm still banging my head over this one my friend.
They institute laws that have no validity in the real World.
MTBE comes to mind.

Quote from: Solar on October 09, 2010, 10:44:55 AM
I'm still banging my head over this one my friend.
They institute laws that have no validity in the real World.
MTBE comes to mind.

They really got caught with their pants down this time. They should all be fired and brought up on charges.Then shut CARB down for good. CARB is nothing but a dictatorship hell bent on the destruction of industry. The are killing jobs and running companies out of the state. Mary Nichols was hired by Moonbeam Brown.She should be fired immediately. >:(

Quote from: Indy on October 09, 2010, 04:10:05 PM
They really got caught with their pants down this time. They should all be fired and brought up on charges.Then shut CARB down for good. CARB is nothing but a dictatorship hell bent on the destruction of industry. The are killing jobs and running companies out of the state. Mary Nichols was hired by Moonbeam Brown.She should be fired immediately. >:(

It really makes no sense why these people even get funding.
They all share one single goal, socialism, one World Gov.
I bet they even think this is a good idea.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6981CU20101009

Can you tell me how paying a tax that still allows you to do what you have been doing all along, is somehow going to help the atmosphere?

Quote from: Solar on October 09, 2010, 04:21:56 PM
It really makes no sense why these people even get funding.
They all share one single goal, socialism, one World Gov.
I bet they even think this is a good idea.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6981CU20101009

Can you tell me how paying a tax that still allows you to do what you have been doing all along, is somehow going to help the atmosphere?

This should explain it.

Climate Change Dictionary

PEER REVIEW: The act of banding together a group of like-minded academics with a funding conflict of interest, for the purpose of squeezing out any research voices that threaten the multi-million dollar government grant gravy train.

SETTLED SCIENCE: Betrayal of the scientific method for politics or money or both.

DENIER: Anyone who suspects the truth.

CLIMATE CHANGE: What has been happening for billions of years, but should now be flogged to produce 'panic for profit.'

NOBEL PEACE PRIZE: Leftist Nutcase Prize, unrelated to "Peace" in any meaningful way.

DATA, EVIDENCE: Unnecessary details. If anyone asks for this, see "DENIER," above.

CLIMATE SCIENTIST: A person skilled in spouting obscure, scientific-sounding jargon that has the effect of deflecting requests for "DATA" by "DENIERS." Also skilled at affecting an aura of "Smartest Person in the Room" to buffalo gullible legislators and journalists.

JUNK SCIENCE: The use of invalid scientific evidence resulting in findings of causation which simply cannot be justified or understood from the standpoint of the current state of credible scientific or medical knowledge.

Quote from: Indy on October 09, 2010, 04:59:10 PM
This should explain it.

Climate Change Dictionary

PEER REVIEW: The act of banding together a group of like-minded academics with a funding conflict of interest, for the purpose of squeezing out any research voices that threaten the multi-million dollar government grant gravy train.

SETTLED SCIENCE: Betrayal of the scientific method for politics or money or both.

DENIER: Anyone who suspects the truth.

CLIMATE CHANGE: What has been happening for billions of years, but should now be flogged to produce 'panic for profit.'

NOBEL PEACE PRIZE: Leftist Nutcase Prize, unrelated to "Peace" in any meaningful way.

DATA, EVIDENCE: Unnecessary details. If anyone asks for this, see "DENIER," above.

CLIMATE SCIENTIST: A person skilled in spouting obscure, scientific-sounding jargon that has the effect of deflecting requests for "DATA" by "DENIERS." Also skilled at affecting an aura of "Smartest Person in the Room" to buffalo gullible legislators and journalists.

JUNK SCIENCE: The use of invalid scientific evidence resulting in findings of causation which simply cannot be justified or understood from the standpoint of the current state of credible scientific or medical knowledge.

;D ;D ;D ;D
That's it in a nutshell.

That about covers it.  ;D

These people actually lie so they can be self righteous...