Is AOC GOP's Useful Idiot, Or Part of an Even Bigger plot?

Started by Solar, March 10, 2019, 01:19:09 PM

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Quote from: s3779m on March 12, 2019, 05:16:52 AM
But I keep asking myself, if they have pelosi as speaker, why would they need a puppet?
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Kind of like the "Proxy Wars", where neither side admit they are warring, all the while using the locals to do their bidding and dying.
I guess if we were to expose those pulling the strings, we would see the likes of Soros, Bloomberg, Moonbeam, CAIR and a litany of other hardcore failed leftists that know, if the public knew the truth would reject them out of hand.
Which begs the question, what is the identity of the Dim party, what is a Dim these days?

Usually when someone describes a composite in an ideal form, it entails certain qualities, such as honesty, vigilance, faith, values.
That was the Dim of yesteryear, what is the dim of today? I was trying to answer this very question honestly so I went to a prominent leftist site to see what they thought.
But before I do, I'd like to pose the same question about a Pub.

We know what we want in a Pub, but the leftist RINO fight us at every turn because they don't want honesty, they like a dirty and underhanded fight, dark money to manipulate people as a way of garnering power. A true Conservative would never stand for such behavior and want to open govt back up to what it was supposed to be as envisioned by our Founders.

With that in mind, look at the Dim party. According to fivethirtyeight.com.
Talk about hiding the wounds, his description is about as generic as they come. The first in the list are communists, the second, Marxist idealists, the third, fascists, the fourth are Fabian Socialists.
The last two in the list no longer exist.

QuoteThe Super Progressives
Very liberal on economic and identity/cultural issues, anti-establishment.

The Very Progressives
Very liberal on economic issues, fairly liberal on identity issues, skeptical of the Democratic establishment.

The Progressive New Guard
Liberal on both economic and identity issues but also somewhat concerned about the "electability" of candidates and the appeal of ideas to the political center; generally rose to prominence after Barack Obama was elected president.

The Progressive Old Guard
Solidly center-left on both economic and identity issues, but very concerned about the "electability" of candidates and the appeal of ideas to the political center; generally rose to prominence before Obama was elected president.

The Moderates
More conservative and business-friendly than other Democrats on economic policies; somewhat liberal on cultural issues; anti-establishment.

Conservative Democrats
Skeptical of liberal views on both economic and cultural issues, often supportive of abortion limits, generally from conservative-leaning areas.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-six-wings-of-the-democratic-party/

While writing this I looked up his poll on "Generic Dim vs Generic Pub". They had the Dim winning by a large margin.
If you asked me to describe a generic Dim in the 70s, that wouldn't have been too hard, but today no one even knows, but the fact that the Dim base when queried about the candidates and who they want running in 2020, they all say "Someone Else".
This means there is not one individual running that holds the values of the party of yesteryear. Simply put, the party is dead.

Sorry for the long post, but I tend to do these when I first wake up. After this, the mind shuts down. :lol:
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Quote from: Solar on March 12, 2019, 06:13:37 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kind of like the "Proxy Wars", where neither side admit they are warring, all the while using the locals to do their bidding and dying.
I guess if we were to expose those pulling the strings, we would see the likes of Soros, Bloomberg, Moonbeam, CAIR and a litany of other hardcore failed leftists that know, if the public knew the truth would reject them out of hand.
Which begs the question, what is the identity of the Dim party, what is a Dim these days?

Usually when someone describes a composite in an ideal form, it entails certain qualities, such as honesty, vigilance, faith, values.
That was the Dim of yesteryear, what is the dim of today? I was trying to answer this very question honestly so I went to a prominent leftist site to see what they thought.
But before I do, I'd like to pose the same question about a Pub.

We know what we want in a Pub, but the leftist RINO fight us at every turn because they don't want honesty, they like a dirty and underhanded fight, dark money to manipulate people as a way of garnering power. A true Conservative would never stand for such behavior and want to open govt back up to what it was supposed to be as envisioned by our Founders.

With that in mind, look at the Dim party. According to fivethirtyeight.com.
Talk about hiding the wounds, his description is about as generic as they come. The first in the list are communists, the second, Marxist idealists, the third, fascists, the fourth are Fabian Socialists.
The last two in the list no longer exist.

While writing this I looked up his poll on "Generic Dim vs Generic Pub". They had the Dim winning by a large margin.
If you asked me to describe a generic Dim in the 70s, that wouldn't have been too hard, but today no one even knows, but the fact that the Dim base when queried about the candidates and who they want running in 2020, they all say "Someone Else".
This means there is not one individual running that holds the values of the party of yesteryear. Simply put, the party is dead.

Sorry for the long post, but I tend to do these when I first wake up. After this, the mind shuts down. :lol:
Perfect way of putting it. I keep wondering why the polls still use the term "generic" dim, they are gone. Well maybe biden is still one but the rest are generic socialist, much as I agree the term generic pub means rino like a romney.  Might as well poll generic vs. generic to see who is leading, maybe a generic socialist vs. generic conservative. The dims running toward socialism is the main reason I see hillary giving it one more shot, after 2020 I just see too many off shoots for the socialist to choose from, I believe that is where the shooting will start. Interesting question on who is pulling the strings, and there has only been one politician without strings, Trump, but whoever is pulling the dim strings must really hate this country, or thinks he can walk away with untold wealth.

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Quote from: s3779m on March 12, 2019, 06:39:26 AM
Perfect way of putting it. I keep wondering why the polls still use the term "generic" dim, they are gone. Well maybe biden is still one but the rest are generic socialist, much as I agree the term generic pub means rino like a romney.  Might as well poll generic vs. generic to see who is leading, maybe a generic socialist vs. generic conservative. The dims running toward socialism is the main reason I see hillary giving it one more shot, after 2020 I just see too many off shoots for the socialist to choose from, I believe that is where the shooting will start. Interesting question on who is pulling the strings, and there has only been one politician without strings, Trump, but whoever is pulling the dim strings must really hate this country, or thinks he can walk away with untold wealth.
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Excellent Idea! I'd love to see that poll, I know there was one for 2018 Midterms and the "Generic Conservative" won by something like 7 points.
I posted a link to a Daily caller article above that exposes 10 individuals, including Soros backing the hard leftists in the Dim party.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Fuglosi' office. :biggrin:
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Quote from: ConservativeInCT on March 11, 2019, 06:35:01 AM
I don't think anyone at this point. In my opinion, which can be debated, I think it's a melee right there. From what I see there is a push by the media to promote these new radical heads in the party like Cortez, Omar and, Talib. All of whom hit the trifecta to run the now highly intersectional party. Who is behind the move exactly? It's hard to say. I don't think it's any on person in particular. I think its a mix of media endorsement peppered with the self interest of these new elects.

IMO... there's things at play.
a.  The media IS making AOC a star, her ugly friends are riding her coat tail.
b.  We have a pretty good idea "who" is funding her effort... nothing new at all.
c.  Pelosi's hands are tied, she's not as popular, she doesn't have enough of a majority to "take control" of these children, if she had a wider majority, more support would be in Nancy's corner, these kids are popular.
d.  Democrats have nothing positive to run on - Trump has stolen all the good issues.  The next election is a Democrat throw-away, WTH... just run everyone and let Hillary take another shot (split the vote up to pay her way to the nomination).
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