CA Soldiers Forced To Pay Back Enlistment Bonus 10 Years Later

Started by Ghoulardi, October 24, 2016, 03:41:31 PM

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Ghoulardi

The disgusting item of the week:

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Short of troops to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan a decade ago, the California National Guard enticed thousands of soldiers with bonuses of $15,000 or more to reenlist and go to war.

Now the Pentagon is demanding the money back.

Nearly 10,000 soldiers, many of whom served multiple combat tours, have been ordered to repay large enlistment bonuses — and slapped with interest charges, wage garnishments and tax liens if they refuse — after audits revealed widespread overpayments by the California Guard at the height of the wars last decade.

Investigations have determined that lack of oversight allowed for widespread fraud and mismanagement by California Guard officials under pressure to meet enlistment targets.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-national-guard-bonus-20161020-snap-story.html

Just goes to show you how low the government will go.

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walkstall

Quote from: Ghoulardi on October 24, 2016, 03:41:31 PM
The disgusting item of the week:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-national-guard-bonus-20161020-snap-story.html

Just goes to show you how low the government will go.


QuoteCalifornia National Guard enticed thousands of soldiers with bonuses of $15,000 or more to reenlist and go to war.

So I take it no one will reenlist again as of today. 

But the government will tell us soon that all college will be free. 
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The officials who lied yes LIED and defrauded the enlistee's should be the ones to pay....or slapped in jail....not the guy who answered the call.
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Ghoulardi

As one vetern put it: "I'll give you your money back, if you'll give me my years back."

je_freedom

Quote from: Ghoulardi on October 24, 2016, 03:41:31 PM
Short of troops to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan a decade ago, the California National Guard enticed thousands of soldiers with bonuses of $15,000 or more to reenlist and go to war.

Now the Pentagon is demanding the money back.

Nearly 10,000 soldiers, many of whom served multiple combat tours, have been ordered to repay large enlistment bonuses — and slapped with interest charges, wage garnishments and tax liens if they refuse — after audits revealed widespread overpayments by the California Guard at the height of the wars last decade.

Investigations have determined that lack of oversight allowed for widespread fraud and mismanagement by California Guard officials under pressure to meet enlistment targets.

NBC News reported on this tonight.
They made no mention of the parts I highlighted.
They just said that some of the recipients were later found
to not qualify for the payments received.
They gave no further details.

NBC said that the overpayments totaled around $20 million.
Not one cent should be clawed back from these soldiers.

Unlike Solyndra.  I'm sure that there still are some
big chunks of that $500 million that could be clawed back!
How much of that failure was due to bad market predictions,
and how much was due to skimming and fat salaries and bonuses?
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Quote from: je_freedom on October 24, 2016, 07:53:52 PM
NBC News reported on this tonight.
They made no mention of the parts I highlighted.
They just said that some of the recipients were later found
to not qualify for the payments received.
They gave no further details.

NBC said that the overpayments totaled around $20 million.
Not one cent should be clawed back from these soldiers.

Unlike Solyndra.  I'm sure that there still are some
big chunks of that $500 million that could be clawed back!
How much of that failure was due to bad market predictions,
and how much was due to skimming and fat salaries and bonuses?
Excellent comparison!!!!
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Cryptic Bert

Pretty f**king disgusting but I don 't think the government can renege on a contract. Especially when the soldiers upheld their end.

je_freedom

Quote from: The Boo Man... on October 24, 2016, 09:37:57 PM
Pretty f**king disgusting but I don 't think the government can renege on a contract. Especially when the soldiers upheld their end.

The Federal Acquisition Regulations (FARs) say that the government
can terminate ANY contract at ANY time "for convenience."
(No matter how much money the contractor has invested in
building up his capability to fulfill the contract.)

The FARs are incorporated, by reference,
into every contract the government makes.
That is, every contract contains a clause that says that the FARs apply.
(Convenient way of getting people to
sign on to conditions of which they are unaware.)
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supsalemgr

How abut firing the people who let this oversight occur? I did just here Kevin McCarthy on FNC say once congress is back in session they will address this situation in favor of the troops.
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I wonder if they will go after the ones KIA like they go after the dead man's vote.
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Ghoulardi

Just when you think you've heard the stupidest thing yet, liberals keep governing.

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The federal government is trying to recoup enlistment bonuses given erroneously to thousands of California soldiers despite routinely allowing poor-performing VA employees to keep their bonus checks.

The Los Angeles Times reported last week that the Pentagon demanded that thousands of California soldiers repay bonuses they were given to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Defense Department asked the soldiers to repay the bonuses, which amounted to $15,000 or more each, after audits revealed they were overpaid by the California National Guard.

But the practice stands in contrast with that of the Obama administration's Department of Veterans Affairs, which has failed to take back hundreds of thousands of dollars paid to high-ranking bureaucrats who have been scrutinized for bad behavior or poor management.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/obama-admin-targets-soldiers-bonuses-lets-bad-va-employees-keep/

So the government can demand bonuses back from people who put their lives at risk every day, but some pencil pusher who's a bad employee, my god, let's not even think about taking his bonus.