This is real bad news for RINO, they refused to push our primary up because they knew the Conservatives in this state would flat out reject their Establishment whore candidates, so they purposely stifled the voice of a conservative state.
This should prove to be very interesting, in that the state is solidly divided between Marxists and far right Conservatives, meaning trouble for both party's.

"A state as populous and diverse as California should not be an afterthought. Moving up the California primary in 2020 makes sense and will give California voters a more significant role. By holding our primary earlier, we will ensure that issues important to Californians are prioritized by presidential candidates from all political parties," said Secretary Padilla.

"California is the largest, most diverse state in the nation with one of the largest economies in the world," said Senator Ricardo Lara. "Yet Californians' voices are silenced when it comes to choosing presidential nominees. California is leading the nation on clean air, criminal justice reform, and expanding healthcare for all, and moving up our presidential primary will ensure our state's voters are heard in the national debate."
http://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advisories/2017-news-releases-and-advisories/secretary-state-padilla-and-senator-lara-announce-legislation-moving-californias-presidential-primary/

Quote from: Solar on April 12, 2017, 04:17:26 PM
This is real bad news for RINO, they refused to push our primary up because they knew the Conservatives in this state would flat out reject their Establishment whore candidates, so they purposely stifled the voice of a conservative state.
This should prove to be very interesting, in that the state is solidly divided between Marxists and far right Conservatives, meaning trouble for both party's.

"A state as populous and diverse as California should not be an afterthought. Moving up the California primary in 2020 makes sense and will give California voters a more significant role. By holding our primary earlier, we will ensure that issues important to Californians are prioritized by presidential candidates from all political parties," said Secretary Padilla.

"California is the largest, most diverse state in the nation with one of the largest economies in the world," said Senator Ricardo Lara. "Yet Californians' voices are silenced when it comes to choosing presidential nominees. California is leading the nation on clean air, criminal justice reform, and expanding healthcare for all, and moving up our presidential primary will ensure our state's voters are heard in the national debate."
http://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advisories/2017-news-releases-and-advisories/secretary-state-padilla-and-senator-lara-announce-legislation-moving-californias-presidential-primary/

You are going to have to dumb this down for me.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 12, 2017, 07:03:12 PM
You are going to have to dumb this down for me.

The Establishment have fought to keep Ca as a late entry into the Presidential primary, because they knew the Conservatives in Ca would never accept their clowns/clones.
Most people don't realize, Ca has always been full of hardcore Conservatives, not milk toast moderates, no, actual Conservatives, but with Gerrymandered lib districts designed to monopolize their power, they stole the State and have for the last 40 years owned it, but not the people.
The GOP let this happen because they have never really liked us out here, they've despised us for Reagan and a host of other Conservative candidates.
Anyway, by keeping Ca late in the process, we've never had a voice in picking our candidate.
There is a difference in State GOP and the National GOP who pulled the strings at state level.

Like I said, this is good news for Conservatives, and not as good as the Dims think it will be.

Quote from: Solar on April 12, 2017, 09:16:08 PM
The Establishment have fought to keep Ca as a late entry into the Presidential primary, because they knew the Conservatives in Ca would never accept their clowns/clones.
Most people don't realize, Ca has always been full of hardcore Conservatives, not milk toast moderates, no, actual Conservatives, but with Gerrymandered lib districts designed to monopolize their power, they stole the State and have for the last 40 years owned it, but not the people.
The GOP let this happen because they have never really liked us out here, they've despised us for Reagan and a host of other Conservative candidates.
Anyway, by keeping Ca late in the process, we've never had a voice in picking our candidate.
There is a difference in State GOP and the National GOP who pulled the strings at state level.

Like I said, this is good news for Conservatives, and not as good as the Dims think it will be.

How does moving their entrance into the primary help conservatives?

Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 12, 2017, 11:33:50 PM
How does moving their entrance into the primary help conservatives?

Take Cruz for example, we never got the chance to support him.
You see, the GOP set it up, so open primary states get to select the candidates. This allows Dims to cross over and support the Establishment hacks.
This is nothing new and it wasn't only Ca, but you have to ask yourself, why would they suppress such a large state such as Ca?
It was only the last 40 years that the Dims have locked up this state, before that only Conservatives came out of this state to move on politically.
I remember my dad talking about it back in the early 60s how the party feared the base out west, and only wanted to promote libs within the party, as evidenced by Nixon, Ford, Dole, McCain all tied to the left side of the GOP.

Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2017, 06:38:10 AM
Take Cruz for example, we never got the chance to support him.
You see, the GOP set it up, so open primary states get to select the candidates. This allows Dims to cross over and support the Establishment hacks.
This is nothing new and it wasn't only Ca, but you have to ask yourself, why would they suppress such a large state such as Ca?
It was only the last 40 years that the Dims have locked up this state, before that only Conservatives came out of this state to move on politically.
I remember my dad talking about it back in the early 60s how the party feared the base out west, and only wanted to promote libs within the party, as evidenced by Nixon, Ford, Dole, McCain all tied to the left side of the GOP.

Ah, it prevents conservatives from building any sort of momentum.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 13, 2017, 05:17:55 PM
Ah, it prevents conservatives from building any sort of momentum.

Exactly!

Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2017, 06:05:08 PM
Exactly!

See? all you have to do is explain it to me 45 times and I will pick it up immediately. With that said the conservatives need to take advantage of this. Hit it hard and I'm not talking about Naughty Thursdays. They need to spend every moment promoting their candidates.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 13, 2017, 08:59:05 PM
See? all you have to do is explain it to me 45 times and I will pick it up immediately. With that said the conservatives need to take advantage of this. Hit it hard and I'm not talking about Naughty Thursdays. They need to spend every moment promoting their candidates.

At least you asked, I just move on in my ignorant bliss pretending I understood your genius.

Now we'll have an actual fighting chance.
Notice how the GOP would promote the Iowa caucus as a bellwether for the country in the past, as if one tiny state represents the nation, but it was their way of locking down the narrative that their candidate was the chosen one, simply because they threw millions into the state.

After Cruz locked it down, they are looking at different strategies, but having Ca pushed up to the front of the pack has them in a panic.