Brexit: Will Britian Exit, Or Stay?

Started by Solar, June 22, 2016, 04:16:10 PM

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MACMan

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 26, 2016, 08:03:14 AM
Obama is not the PM so they will have to abide by the vote. I am sure the elites are behind closed doors trying to undo this though.

I'm also sure the elites will pull every underhanded maneuver they can to undo the vote.

As for the vote itself..............

Quote...........the legal blogger David Allen Green has explained clearly, the measure Britons just voted for "was an advisory not a mandatory referendum," meaning that it is not legally binding on the government. No matter who the prime minister is, he or she is not required by the outcome to trigger Article 50. And, despite what senior figures in the EU and its other states might say, there is no way for them to force the UK to invoke Article 50.

https://theintercept.com/2016/06/24/british-exit-eu-still-not-inevitable-despite-referendum/

Solar

   
Article 50

1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.

2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.

3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.

A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.

http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the-lisbon-treaty/treaty-on-european-union-and-comments/title-6-final-provisions/137-article-50.html
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Quote from: Solar on June 26, 2016, 01:35:24 PM
   
Article 50

1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.

2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.

3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.

A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.

http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the-lisbon-treaty/treaty-on-european-union-and-comments/title-6-final-provisions/137-article-50.html



So as each country joins jumping ship there will be less and less on the "Council".
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Solar

This BS reminds me of my long term girlfriend when I broke up.
I said in a long drawn out explanation that it was no longer working and I was breaking up. She actually said "No", I'm not breaking up, that's that. :blink:
Yes, I was  dumbfounded, and I see the rule 50 bull shit the same way, if the UK no longer wants any part of socialism, it simply tells the rest of the leaches, the free ride is over, move on bitches.
Arguing with a bunch of leftists is exactly what they want, the longer you postpone the break up, the more they dig in, the more reasons they find to keep you attached.

Make a clean break of Britain, the Bitch is a user, and will most likely give you the clap, or worse.
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Quote from: Solar on June 25, 2016, 08:38:45 AM...Asked about gun controls, Farage said: "I think proper gun licensing is something we've done in this country responsibly and well for a long time, and I think the kneejerk legislation that Blair brought in that meant that the British Olympic pistol team have to go to France to even practise was just crackers.
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Do you guys want to know how STUPID these socialist/liberal morons are?  The British Olympic pistol team has to go to France to practice shooting...and the French have go to England or the Netherlands or somewhere to practice Karate because MMA is illegal in France.  How bloody brilliant is THAT?
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Solar

Quote from: jdzbrain on June 27, 2016, 08:14:07 AM
Do you guys want to know how STUPID these socialist/liberal morons are?  The British Olympic pistol team has to go to France to practice shooting...and the French have go to England or the Netherlands or somewhere to practice Karate because MMA is illegal in France.  How bloody brilliant is THAT?
Leaves one speechless just thinking about the ignorance that drives this madness.
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Quote from: Solar on June 26, 2016, 03:41:28 PM
This BS reminds me of my long term girlfriend when I broke up.
I said in a long drawn out explanation that it was no longer working and I was breaking up. She actually said "No", I'm not breaking up, that's that. :blink:
Yes, I was  dumbfounded, and I see the rule 50 bull shit the same way, if the UK no longer wants any part of socialism, it simply tells the rest of the leaches, the free ride is over, move on bitches.
Arguing with a bunch of leftists is exactly what they want, the longer you postpone the break up, the more they dig in, the more reasons they find to keep you attached.

Make a clean break of Britain, the Bitch is a user, and will most likely give you the clap, or worse.

LOL... and "It's really your fault, how could you be so insensitive!?" - she adds, "I knew you'd do this to me!  So-n-so warned me, I should have listened, how could you be so cruel after-all-we've-been-through?"  ...and when it's all over, your friends are both relieved, and silently questioning your intelligence... :blink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm12NYSBg84

"That was YOUR wife...!?  Bitch"   LOL   Hot-Crazy-Dangerous ... pack your bags and skedaddle outta da county, fast!   :ttoung: :ttoung:
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Solar

Quote from: Hoofer on June 27, 2016, 02:50:34 PM
LOL... and "It's really your fault, how could you be so insensitive!?" - she adds, "I knew you'd do this to me!  So-n-so warned me, I should have listened, how could you be so cruel after-all-we've-been-through?"  ...and when it's all over, your friends are both relieved, and silently questioning your intelligence... :blink:

"That was YOUR wife...!?  Bitch"   LOL   Hot-Crazy-Dangerous ... pack your bags and skedaddle outta da county, fast!   :ttoung: :ttoung:
Actually it was kind of pathetic in that she pleaded that I act like we we're still together while she worked through it. :blink:
No, it's over!..... BWAHHHHHH!!!! ...Ok ok, I'll play along.... See, there's no need to break up, it was just a misunderstanding and I forgive you for wanting to date other women,,,,,,.
NOOOOOO!!! IT"S  O V E R, Dammit!!!! BWAHHHHHHH..... I'm going.... Nooooo don't go.....Let go of my leg, IT'S O V E R !!!!
NO , THIS   IS   N O T  O V E R!!!!!

Tires screeching in my departure......
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Quote from: Solar on June 27, 2016, 04:05:20 PM
Actually it was kind of pathetic in that she pleaded that I act like we we're still together while she worked through it. :blink:
No, it's over!..... BWAHHHHHH!!!! ...Ok ok, I'll play along.... See, there's no need to break up, it was just a misunderstanding and I forgive you for wanting to date other women,,,,,,.
NOOOOOO!!! IT"S  O V E R, Dammit!!!! BWAHHHHHHH..... I'm going.... Nooooo don't go.....Let go of my leg, IT'S O V E R !!!!
NO , THIS   IS   N O T  O V E R!!!!!

Tires screeching in my departure......

I'm tellin' ya, breaking up is harder on guys than gals!   Women learn at an early age, maybe it's genetic or something - especially women from the south... they instinctively know how to "play" guys.  A week later, they honk the horn as they drive by with a new boyfriend (yup, some poor sap listened to her story, felt sorry... etc., and thinks he found a really-nice-girl-who-fits-him-perfect).

Liberal women are like a Chinese Kung Fu flick - they gotta get revenge... for everything.  Toilet seats up, toilet paper unrolling the wrong way, squeezing the toothpaste in the middle or accidentally touching the underwear on the doorknob with your "wet" hand, as you get out of the shower.  Anything can set-the-off...

Must be a lot of Liberals in England, they're already talking buyer's remorse!
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walkstall

EU Could Drop English as Official Language After Brexit.

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BRUSSELS — English, the world's second language and the main working tongue of EU institutions, may no longer be an official language of the European Union once Britain leaves the bloc, a senior EU lawmaker said on Monday.


more @
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/brexit-referendum/au-revoir-anglais-eu-could-drop-english-official-language-after-n599911



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Charliemyboy

Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 25, 2016, 06:57:20 PM
I just read on Facebook my sister supports a second vote. Well she's a democrats so I shouldn't be too surprised.

Do the English just keep having referendums until the result desired by the government wins?

walkstall

Quote from: Charliemyboy on June 27, 2016, 06:29:55 PM
Do the English just keep having referendums until the result desired by the government wins?


Just recounting ballots in Washington state has always worked.   :cursing:
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Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Solar

Quote from: walkstall on June 27, 2016, 06:22:41 PM
EU Could Drop English as Official Language After Brexit.

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BRUSSELS — English, the world's second language and the main working tongue of EU institutions, may no longer be an official language of the European Union once Britain leaves the bloc, a senior EU lawmaker said on Monday.


more @
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/brexit-referendum/au-revoir-anglais-eu-could-drop-english-official-language-after-n599911




Tell that to the world's pilots. :laugh:
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quiller

Quote from: Solar on June 27, 2016, 07:11:31 PM
Tell that to the world's pilots. :laugh:

...Or diplomats. Or business people. Or bankers. Oh my yes, especially bankers.....