Brett Kavanaugh Senate Confirmation Hearing

Started by Solar, September 04, 2018, 06:58:47 AM

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Dubinsky

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My apologies if this was posted or addressed by anyone. I happened to read it elsewhere and it linked to Wikipedia and I was struck with how eerily familiar it sounds. Of course not every detail. Kavanaugh's situation could be this script rewritten with slight adjustments


In 1991, President George H. W. Bush nominated Clarence Thomas, a federal Circuit Judge, to succeed retiring Associate Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall. Senate hearings on his confirmation were initially completed with Thomas's good character being presented as a primary qualification for the high court because he had only been a judge for slightly more than one year. There had been little organized opposition to Thomas's nomination, and his confirmation seemed assured until a report of a private interview of Hill by the FBI was leaked to the press. The hearings were then reopened, and Hill was called to publicly testify. Hill said in the October 1991 televised hearings that Thomas had sexually harassed her while he was her supervisor at the Department of Education and the EEOC. When questioned on why she followed Thomas to the second job after he had already allegedly harassed her, she said working in a reputable position within the civil rights field had been her ambition. The position was appealing enough to inhibit her from going back into private practice with her previous firm. She only realized later in her life that this ambitious venture was a poor judgment and also explained that "at that time, it appeared that the sexual overtures ... had ended."

During court session, Republican Senator Orrin Hatch implied that "Hill was working in tandem with 'slick lawyers' and interest groups bent on destroying Thomas' chances to join the court." Thomas said he considered Hill a friend whom he had helped at every turn, so when accusations of harassment came from her they were particularly hurtful and he said, "I lost the belief that if I did my best, all would work out."

Four female witnesses reportedly waited in the wings to support Hill's credibility, but they were not called, due to what the Los Angeles Times described as a private, compromise deal between Republicans and the Senate Judiciary Committee Chair, Democrat Joe Biden. According to Time magazine, one of the witnesses, Angela Wright, may not have been considered credible on the issue of sexual harassment because she had been fired from the EEOC by Thomas.

Hill agreed to take a polygraph test. While senators and other authorities noted that polygraph results cannot be relied upon and are inadmissible in courts, Hill's results did support her statements. Thomas did not take a polygraph test. He made a vehement and complete denial, saying that he was being subjected to a "high-tech lynching for uppity blacks" by white liberals who were seeking to block a black conservative from taking a seat on the Supreme Court. After extensive debate, the United States Senate confirmed Thomas to the Supreme Court by a vote of 52–48, the narrowest margin since the 19th century.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Hill

tac

64 'partners'? Sounds like the school slut.  :rolleyes:

supsalemgr

After watching this unfold today it is clearly seen by any blind person this is a pure sham. What pisses me off is the GOP senators are acting like scared children. I ask, of what? Now, there is a question as to whether the accuser wants to meet with the committee and supposedly the republicans don't know what to do. To me it is simple. If she doesn't show, they vote. Nothing has changed except for an non substantiated charge - period. It is time to tell the senate democrats to pound sand. F--- them!
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ConservativeInCT

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 18, 2018, 11:35:09 AM
After watching this unfold today it is clearly seen by any blind person this is a pure sham. What pisses me off is the GOP senators are acting like scared children. I ask, of what? Now, there is a question as to whether the accuser wants to meet with the committee and supposedly the republicans don't know what to do. To me it is simple. If she doesn't show, they vote. Nothing has changed except for an non substantiated charge - period. It is time to tell the senate democrats to pound sand. F--- them!

This whole story is a disgrace. Clearly, this woman (who is undoubtedly a piece of liberal trash) is somehow trying to throw this vote by making these false claims, and I do not say that lightly. The fact that for thirty years she didn't bother to say anything and now all of a sudden she is coming forward with this just goes to show her political motive. Even so her story is inconsistent, and with evidence showing her to have suffered through substantial mental problems through her teens puts this in even more shallow water. Personally, I don't believe this story in its entirety. Anything could have happened, really only her, Brett, and the third man know it to bring this up now of all times is just disgusting to me.

Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 18, 2018, 11:35:09 AM
After watching this unfold today it is clearly seen by any blind person this is a pure sham. What pisses me off is the GOP senators are acting like scared children. I ask, of what? Now, there is a question as to whether the accuser wants to meet with the committee and supposedly the republicans don't know what to do. To me it is simple. If she doesn't show, they vote. Nothing has changed except for an non substantiated charge - period. It is time to tell the senate democrats to pound sand. F--- them!
It's very possible the GOP has more on this fraud than they're letting on.
They could be setting the Dims up here.
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T Hunt

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 18, 2018, 11:35:09 AM
After watching this unfold today it is clearly seen by any blind person this is a pure sham. What pisses me off is the GOP senators are acting like scared children. I ask, of what? Now, there is a question as to whether the accuser wants to meet with the committee and supposedly the republicans don't know what to do. To me it is simple. If she doesn't show, they vote. Nothing has changed except for an non substantiated charge - period. It is time to tell the senate democrats to pound sand. F--- them!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/18/grassley-suggests-last-minute-kavanaugh-hearing-could-be-canceled-if-accuser-doesn-t-accept-invite.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fpolitics+%28Internal+-+Politics+-+Text%29

Grassley threatens to nix 11th-hour session if Kavanaugh accuser won't respond to invite
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supsalemgr

Quote from: Solar on September 18, 2018, 11:54:43 AM
It's very possible the GOP has more on this fraud than they're letting on.
They could be setting the Dims up here.

I totally agree with you the GOP has a lot of ammo on this babe. She scrubbed all her social media stuff, took a polygraph in August - ???, her lawyer is card carrying leftist. The question is, will the GOP senators have the courage to go after her? They are walking scared seven year old girls.
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harry12

I am beginning to think you are correct, first the letter coming to Feinstein, even though it was address to her, was
second hand.  Why didn't Ford send it directly to Feinstein.  That makes me question whether the Reps didn't have wind
of it, and had a few bases covered.  I am surprised the FBI said it was too old to investigate, which is obviously true.
Appearances are at this time, Madame64 has gone into hiding, or at least refuses to respond to invitations to appear
before the committee. 


ConservativeInCT

Quote from: harry12 on September 18, 2018, 12:50:39 PM
I am beginning to think you are correct, first the letter coming to Feinstein, even though it was address to her, was
second hand.  Why didn't Ford send it directly to Feinstein.  That makes me question whether the Reps didn't have wind
of it, and had a few bases covered.  I am surprised the FBI said it was too old to investigate, which is obviously true.
Appearances are at this time, Madame64 has gone into hiding, or at least refuses to respond to invitations to appear
before the committee.

The fact that Feinstein sat on this for so long is probably the most damaging piece of evidence as to the instability of these claims. Had the Dems been serious about then they would have pushed it forward a lot sooner they are now, and this would have been investigated and sorted out weeks ago, which is why so many people are looking at this saying that it's politically motivated. Its an extreme delay tactic being used by the Dems to try and push this election, and I hope and pray it does not work. The fact that she won't show just goes more to Brett's case here. She knows she is going to get ripped apart and discredited up there because the allegations are not what she says they are.

Solar

Quote from: harry12 on September 18, 2018, 12:50:39 PM
I am beginning to think you are correct, first the letter coming to Feinstein, even though it was address to her, was
second hand.  Why didn't Ford send it directly to Feinstein.  That makes me question whether the Reps didn't have wind
of it, and had a few bases covered.
  I am surprised the FBI said it was too old to investigate, which is obviously true.
Appearances are at this time, Madame64 has gone into hiding, or at least refuses to respond to invitations to appear
before the committee.

This is why I think they have a huge bomb to drop. They did know about this long beforehand, and I say this based on the fact that they had already lined up 64 women from his past as character witnesses, signed letters stating he is a great guy.
Hell, I couldn't come up with 30 if my life depended on it, so they had been working on this for quite some time.
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T Hunt

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 18, 2018, 12:38:58 PM
I totally agree with you the GOP has a lot of ammo on this babe. She scrubbed all her social media stuff, took a polygraph in August - ???, her lawyer is card carrying leftist. The question is, will the GOP senators have the courage to go after her? They are walking scared seven year old girls.

Why are they more scared of lossing dem voters which they never had in the first place, and not at all scared of losing gop base voters who will be furious if they let the dems win???
They shld be more scared of losing us than the dems.
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Dubinsky

Quote from: Abe on September 18, 2018, 11:02:50 AM
My apologies if this was posted or addressed by anyone. I happened to read it elsewhere and it linked to Wikipedia and I was struck with how eerily familiar it sounds. Of course not every detail. Kavanaugh's situation could be this script rewritten with slight adjustments


In 1991, President George H. W. Bush nominated Clarence Thomas, a federal Circuit Judge, to succeed retiring Associate Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall. Senate hearings on his confirmation were initially completed with Thomas's good character being presented as a primary qualification for the high court because he had only been a judge for slightly more than one year. There had been little organized opposition to Thomas's nomination, and his confirmation seemed assured until a report of a private interview of Hill by the FBI was leaked to the press. The hearings were then reopened, and Hill was called to publicly testify. Hill said in the October 1991 televised hearings that Thomas had sexually harassed her while he was her supervisor at the Department of Education and the EEOC. When questioned on why she followed Thomas to the second job after he had already allegedly harassed her, she said working in a reputable position within the civil rights field had been her ambition. The position was appealing enough to inhibit her from going back into private practice with her previous firm. She only realized later in her life that this ambitious venture was a poor judgment and also explained that "at that time, it appeared that the sexual overtures ... had ended."

During court session, Republican Senator Orrin Hatch implied that "Hill was working in tandem with 'slick lawyers' and interest groups bent on destroying Thomas' chances to join the court." Thomas said he considered Hill a friend whom he had helped at every turn, so when accusations of harassment came from her they were particularly hurtful and he said, "I lost the belief that if I did my best, all would work out."

Four female witnesses reportedly waited in the wings to support Hill's credibility, but they were not called, due to what the Los Angeles Times described as a private, compromise deal between Republicans and the Senate Judiciary Committee Chair, Democrat Joe Biden. According to Time magazine, one of the witnesses, Angela Wright, may not have been considered credible on the issue of sexual harassment because she had been fired from the EEOC by Thomas.

Hill agreed to take a polygraph test. While senators and other authorities noted that polygraph results cannot be relied upon and are inadmissible in courts, Hill's results did support her statements. Thomas did not take a polygraph test. He made a vehement and complete denial, saying that he was being subjected to a "high-tech lynching for uppity blacks" by white liberals who were seeking to block a black conservative from taking a seat on the Supreme Court. After extensive debate, the United States Senate confirmed Thomas to the Supreme Court by a vote of 52–48, the narrowest margin since the 19th century.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Hill

Just to follow up.

This story comes out an hour ago.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/18/dems-make-new-demands-on-kavanaugh-hearing-as-republicans-cry-foul.html


"Feinstein, meanwhile, put out a statement underscoring there had been 22 witnesses at the 1991 Anita Hill hearing, pressing for more witnesses in this case."

Almost an admission they are doing it again.

Solar

OOPS! Dims don't have a witness. :biggrin:

Man identified as witness to alleged Kavanaugh sexual assault, Mark Judge, says has no memory of incident, does not want to speak publicly - Reuters

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-09-18%20Judge%20to%20Grassley,%20Feinstein%20(Kavanaugh%20Nomination).pdf
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supsalemgr

It is clear the democrats and this babe have nothing. I am not concerned about them. It is the gutless GOP senators that concern me.
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Possum

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 19, 2018, 04:46:45 AM
It is clear the democrats and this babe have nothing. I am not concerned about them. It is the gutless GOP senators that concern me.
The gutless rinos have been our problem for quite some time. However we are seeing the end of that game. We got lucky, the obama years and legacy ( :lol: :lol:) are behind us and the damage is being reversed. Many of the rinos saw the light and retired and there will be no blue wave. the lsm is being exposed time after time for what the are. It is a great time to be a citizen of this great country.