Heard this on Fox last night and read it in the Daily Mail today.

Some speculation is that the results of this investigation won't be released until after the November elections, but of course that has been denied.

I find it incredible the things that are withheld from the American people to please politicians.

DaisyJane     

Quote from: DaisyJane on October 15, 2014, 03:51:28 PM
Heard this on Fox last night and read it in the Daily Mail today.

Some speculation is that the results of this investigation won't be released until after the November elections, but of course that has been denied.

I find it incredible the things that are withheld from the American people to please politicians.

DaisyJane     

Correction: Not to please politicians, but to coverup another Obama screw up. However, it was on purpose.

Quote from: DaisyJane on October 15, 2014, 03:51:28 PM
Heard this on Fox last night and read it in the Daily Mail today.

Some speculation is that the results of this investigation won't be released until after the November elections, but of course that has been denied.

I find it incredible the things that are withheld from the American people to please politicians.

DaisyJane     

The Bergdahl report? We'll be told after the election.

The new KenyaCare health insurance rates for 2015? We'll be told after the election.

The nature of the Kenyan's promised executive action on immigration? We'll be told after the election.

Man, I'm struggling to identify a... pattern, maybe?

This is all of a piece with everything the Kenyan's administration does. It's all about managing the flow of information the the LIVs, the dumb rubes they're counting on to watch the news on NBC and not ask any questions. You and I and every thinking person who cares to take a serious look at these things know what's going on.

When Lois Lerner took the Fifth, did you have to wonder why? She's guilty, that's why. In fact, I'd bet my pension that when the truth finally comes out -- and most of it eventually will -- we'll learn that Ms. Lerner is every bit the vindictive political bitch we think she is, and then some. But the LIVs have been told and told and told and told some more that she's as pure as the driven snow and perfectly within her God-given rights to do what she did.

We won't be told about the Bergdahl report until after the election because Bowe Bergdahl is a goddam deserter, a traitor to his country, guilty of treason. And that would make the Kenyan and his supporters look even worse than they already do because they traded five of the most dangerous terrorists on Earth for his worthless hide. We won't be told about the new KenyaCare rates until after the election because they're MUCH HIGHER THAN EXPECTED, and that would even further stain the filthy Democrats -- all sixty of them in the Senate -- that voted for that abortion. We won't be told about the Kenyan's plans for immigration reform via executive orders until after the election because, again, WE'RE NOT GONNA LIKE IT, and it would, again, screw the Dems who will of course support it like the good little Communist soldiers they are.

Makes me all the more want to know what's in that investigation.

Quote from: ConservativeMe on October 16, 2014, 08:26:30 AM
Makes me all the more want to know what's in that investigation.

It was actually completed in 2009. 

This is just the perp's testimony & review-summary. 

This is another one of those "tar babies" Obama keeps getting involved with. The findings will not come out until at least after the mid terms. If he is not charged, the military and conservatives will be even more energized to vote against dems. If he is charged the fawning left will be outraged and more will stay away from the polls. There is a pattern of when he does do or say something it does not seem to work for him. That is why he is always scripted and does not make hard decisions.

This is exactly what FOIA and lawsuits were invented for.  Anybody from GOP / TP filing  ?  I doubt it.

Should be an emergency, fast-track, release it NOW action.  2008, holy hell.  Otherwise they get away scot free with yet another huge cheat.  ho-hum, don't make waves.

Bitch at me all you want.  The GOP / TP are gonna make this next 3 weeks close as hell, if not give it away.  DNC-MSM-SEIU-ACORN-NBP are in full theft mode.

Quote from: AndyJackson on October 16, 2014, 02:29:37 PM
This is exactly what FOIA and lawsuits were invented for.  Anybody from GOP / TP filing  ?  I doubt it.

Should be an emergency, fast-track, release it NOW action.  2008, holy hell.  Otherwise they get away scot free with yet another huge cheat.  ho-hum, don't make waves.

Bitch at me all you want.  The GOP / TP are gonna make this next 3 weeks close as hell, if not give it away.  DNC-MSM-SEIU-ACORN-NBP are in full theft mode.

Andy, the left is in hibernation and this is what has the dems petrified about the mid terms. A lawsuit now by the GOP against Obama would be the gift the dems are hoping for to energize the base. Things are looking good for the mid terms and the GOP should maintain their game plan of tying dem candidates to Obama.

Quote from: supsalemgr on October 17, 2014, 04:49:19 AM
Andy, the left is in hibernation and this is what has the dems petrified about the mid terms. A lawsuit now by the GOP against Obama would be the gift the dems are hoping for to energize the base. Things are looking good for the mid terms and the GOP should maintain their game plan of tying dem candidates to Obama.

I can almost grasp the logic in what you're describing.......as a very narrow slice of the situation.

But something is still incredibly wrong in the big picture, when we have to be scared to tell the truth and pursue justice.

That needs to be changed.  Needs to be major goal of a 5 or 10-year plan.

I get the MSM-Hollywood-Academia-Union thing, tough nut to crack.  But we still need to use what we have against them, in an all-out war to change this.

Quote from: AndyJackson on October 17, 2014, 08:22:56 AM
I can almost grasp the logic in what you're describing.......as a very narrow slice of the situation.

But something is still incredibly wrong in the big picture, when we have to be scared to tell the truth and pursue justice.

That needs to be changed.  Needs to be major goal of a 5 or 10-year plan.

I get the MSM-Hollywood-Academia-Union thing, tough nut to crack.  But we still need to use what we have against them, in an all-out war to change this.

I understand your point. However, politics is about appealing to the masses. One thing a party does not want to do is help the other party to energize the base when they are down and out.

Quote from: supsalemgr on October 17, 2014, 10:59:39 AM
I understand your point. However, politics is about appealing to the masses. One thing a party does not want to do is help the other party to energize the base when they are down and out.

Again, I hear you to certain extent.  But allow me to paraphrase Rush once more.  He was saying this morning that today's crop of Republicans is so cowed by MSM-Hollywood, Academia, DNC, LGBT-Reparations industry, etc......that they choose to try and hide 24/7/365.  Just don't be seen or heard, be anonymous but keep getting elected.

Even now that we have a golden opportunity to point up the differences between the Obama failure of 8 years, and true conservative principles a la Reagan.  But nobody will.

Local talk guy was hammering the Bush decision to just not bother with the WMD truth, to not tell anybody that we were right and the left was lying about the WMD.  10 years of letting the left run all over us when they were wrong and we were right.  How stupid is that  ?  And even today, now that the truth is out, we're letting them clean our clocks again.  They just shifted the discussion to "What  ???  There was WMD  ???  Rumsfeld-Cheney gave them to Hussein !!!"  And we aren't even answering to that.  Even when we win, we lose.

Quote from: AndyJackson on October 18, 2014, 06:47:59 AM
Again, I hear you to certain extent.  But allow me to paraphrase Rush once more.  He was saying this morning that today's crop of Republicans is so cowed by MSM-Hollywood, Academia, DNC, LGBT-Reparations industry, etc......that they choose to try and hide 24/7/365.  Just don't be seen or heard, be anonymous but keep getting elected.

Even now that we have a golden opportunity to point up the differences between the Obama failure of 8 years, and true conservative principles a la Reagan.  But nobody will.

Local talk guy was hammering the Bush decision to just not bother with the WMD truth, to not tell anybody that we were right and the left was lying about the WMD.  10 years of letting the left run all over us when they were wrong and we were right.  How stupid is that  ?  And even today, now that the truth is out, we're letting them clean our clocks again.  They just shifted the discussion to "What  ???  There was WMD  ???  Rumsfeld-Cheney gave them to Hussein !!!"  And we aren't even answering to that.  Even when we win, we lose.

Why are you assuming we're losing, what fuckin hole are you dwelling in, that you can't see the panic on the left, and the RINO running scared as if it were open season on the Establishment?
We're on the verge of seizing power, and all you see is loss and despair?

Find another forum where the failed gather, no one here wants to associate with losers.

Quote from: Solar on October 18, 2014, 07:01:27 AM
Why are you assuming we're losing, what fuckin hole are you dwelling in, that you can't see the panic on the left, and the RINO running scared as if it were open season on the Establishment?
We're on the verge of seizing power, and all you see is loss and despair?

Find another forum where the failed gather, no one here wants to associate with losers.

I'm only asking for an effort that at least matches that of our enemies.  Don't see the "loser" in that.

We're on the same side, and I agree with most of what you say.

But the more frantic and bombastic that you get regarding anybody else's beliefs that differ from yours.......the more I think you're getting worried about predicting a magical biblical victory for our side, regardless of effort, simply because "you just know it".

Things won't happen because "you know it and it's right and good".  They'll happen because our side gets around to slugging it out in the trenches, in addition to being right and good.

Apparently, McDaniel beating Cochran, and proving out & out cheating by Cochran......wasn't enough to win anything.

You'd better be magically, mystically prescient with all of your undeniable truths.  If we don't win this time, there's no need to discuss "fighting back some other time".

Quote from: AndyJackson on October 18, 2014, 08:00:00 AM
I'm only asking for an effort that at least matches that of our enemies.  Don't see the "loser" in that.

Why? Lets win first, why give their media any fuel for fodder?

QuoteWe're on the same side, and I agree with most of what you say.

Except you're a damned pessimist and I'm not. If I didn't know better, I'd accuse you of being an enemy plant.

QuoteBut the more frantic and bombastic that you get regarding anybody else's beliefs that differ from yours.......the more I think you're getting worried about predicting a magical biblical victory for our side, regardless of effort, simply because "you just know it".

Pure bull shit and you know it, which is why your posts are suspect!

Show me one top general, or professional coach that briefs his team before going into battle with the degree of pessimism you display.
I know for a fact we'll seize power in Nov, anyone half a brain can see it as well, yet you, for some reason, beyond reason want to see defeat. It's in your every sabotaging post.

QuoteThings won't happen because "you know it and it's right and good".  They'll happen because our side gets around to slugging it out in the trenches, in addition to being right and good.

We don't have to, thats the beauty of this climate, the more the left does, the better for us.

QuoteApparently, McDaniel beating Cochran, and proving out & out cheating by Cochran......wasn't enough to win anything.

Damn you really aren't very bright, are you? Is the Establishment not in control at the moment, do they not set the agenda, do they not have connections in the legal system?
Yet you expected a different outcome?

QuoteYou'd better be magically, mystically prescient with all of your undeniable truths.  If we don't win this time, there's no need to discuss "fighting back some other time".

Wherein lies the problem, you're blind as a bat! The only way a fool could possibly believe we'll lose, is if they saturate their day with leftist news and ignore the truth, or a leftist plant.

I mean this in all sincerity, you come off looking like an uninformed moron, when even the left admits they will lose control in Nov.
Do you think they are lying? They're trying to buffer their constituency from the real shock about to hit their party, otherwise, if it was even close, they'd be fighting all the way and claiming victory early.

Can you not see that?

Quote from: Solar on October 18, 2014, 09:02:29 AM
Why? Lets win first, why give their media any fuel for fodder?Except you're a damned pessimist and I'm not. If I didn't know better, I'd accuse you of being an enemy plant.
Pure bull shit and you know it, which is why your posts are suspect!

Show me one top general, or professional coach that briefs his team before going into battle with the degree of pessimism you display.
I know for a fact we'll seize power in Nov, anyone half a brain can see it as well, yet you, for some reason, beyond reason want to see defeat. It's in your every sabotaging post.

We don't have to, thats the beauty of this climate, the more the left does, the better for us.
Damn you really aren't very bright, are you? Is the Establishment not in control at the moment, do they not set the agenda, do they not have connections in the legal system?
Yet you expected a different outcome?
Wherein lies the problem, you're blind as a bat! The only way a fool could possibly believe we'll lose, is if they saturate their day with leftist news and ignore the truth, or a leftist plant.

I mean this in all sincerity, you come off looking like an uninformed moron, when even the left admits they will lose control in Nov.
Do you think they are lying? They're trying to buffer their constituency from the real shock about to hit their party, otherwise, if it was even close, they'd be fighting all the way and claiming victory early.

Can you not see that?

I'm sorry my old friend, but it's you that's adopting the sorry old habits of juvenile liberals.

We have differing beliefs.  It's only you that's getting all excited and insulting and smarter-than-thou, because somebody has the nerve to disagree on a single, narrow point.

I say again, you're out on a thin limb, and you're acting out because all of your credibility is riding on a "conservative hope & change" hail Mary.

I'm not.  I'm just asking for something very simple and specific, to go with the fact that we're right, and poised to do good things.

Me a plant.  Reach back, credibility is just an inch or so behind.