Boehner re-elected Speaker

Started by Darth Fife, January 03, 2013, 11:12:16 AM

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AndyJackson

"I" voted for Obama and Reid  ?

lol, I know that's not precisely what you meant.  But it's an overly simplistic way to kick the can.

If we can't win with the most bland, vanilla GOP candidate out there, and we didn't gain in the houses of congress after 4 years of abject Obama failure......what's our plan besides 'wait a while longer'  ?

Hillary's waiting in the wings, and you can bet that the dems and media will milk the first woman president thing just like the Obama spectacle.  The woman vote, the minority vote, the America-sucks vote, will all rush to her just like Obama.

Who's the "let's just wait a while" GOP candidate for 2016  ?  If we let the dems, media, and our own general inaction choose.....it will be some putz like Huntsman.....perfect for the liberal pickin's, and very little middle America interest.  Huntsman will quickly pass on any women or minorities, and pick a veep candidate that looks just like him.

We don't need to be changing tactics just for change's sake.  We need it to stop the leftist / marxist train.

What's our plan for 2016  ?  The dems and media are already destroying select conservatives and hiding Hillary from Benghazi and anything else, in preparation.

supsalemgr

http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/20130104/NEWS/130109903/1014?p=2&tc=pg

This is an opinion piece by a regular contributor to my local newpsaper. He also posts on a local board controlled by libs and runs them nuts. I think he sums up pretty well how dems operate during campaigns. If we are going to fight we need to also fight on the same level as the dems.
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Charliemyboy

Quote from: Solar on January 03, 2013, 02:14:48 PM
Whatever happened to real men? :glare:
I really despise emotional men, and it may have had a lot to do with why he got screwed by Husein so badly, he relied on emotion, instead of following a core set of beliefs.
He FELT he could trust the Marxist... :rolleyes:

Uh....Excuse me Solar, but integrity and courage are not the exclusive province of men.  You wouldn't want to see me mad.  Neither would Boehner.

AndyJackson

The dems and media have a strategy to praise the GOP candidate they want to run, then destroy him as soon as the primary votes are tallied.  Planning his demise all during the primaries.

It worked like a charm with McCain and Romney.  I assure you that the left and media are loving the Boehner election.

They are also all about destroying conservative minority leaders, 24/7/365.  They are all over folks like Gonzales, Arpaio, Cruz, West, Cain, Watts, C. Rice, Steele (until he gave in and started questioning conservatism lol), Tim Scott, Nikki Haley.....on an everyday, all day basis.  No personal or racial insult is low enough.

They also create their own version of every real or perceived gaffe of repubs or conservatives, and the media plays it endlessly for months and years.  Think of the abortion comments, or "macaca", or Palin's (actually Tina Fey's) "I can see Russia", and so on.  These things don't even actually happen, yet they become standards that the left wins with.  Just for Romney we had -

Loves to fire poor people
Thinks the poor people shouldn't get help
Terrorized gay kids 50 years ago
Probably commited a felony
Cheated on his taxes
Didn't file his taxes
Even with copies of his taxes, they're still wrong somehow
Caused some guy's wife to die
Mistreats dogs
haha, he said binders full of women

As the GOP just muddles along, doing nothing at all to defend itself or mount an offense......it's a slaughter.

Solar

Quote from: Charliemyboy on January 04, 2013, 07:39:35 AM
Uh....Excuse me Solar, but integrity and courage are not the exclusive province of men.  You wouldn't want to see me mad.  Neither would Boehner.
Women aren't to blame for the mess the GOP is in at the moment, it's all due to emotional men, real men follow a core set of values.
These spineless wannabes are only making things worse.
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AndyJackson

We should've gotten a clue when Boehner began his little habit of crying like a little schoolgirl whenever anything of importance takes place.

This is not the person you want going into battle for you.  Who the hell picks weepy willie or boo-hoo boner to fight it out for them ?

But then again, I guess it does boil down to what's out there that we can have any respect for.  Slim Pickin's.

Where's Newt or the Gipper when we need them  ?  Though Bachmann would have been nice.

Solar

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 04, 2013, 08:13:25 AM
We should've gotten a clue when Boehner began his little habit of crying like a little schoolgirl whenever anything of importance takes place.

This is not the person you want going into battle for you.  Who the hell picks weepy willie or boo-hoo boner to fight it out for them ?

But then again, I guess it does boil down to what's out there that we can have any respect for.  Slim Pickin's.

Where's Newt or the Gipper when we need them  ?  Though Bachmann would have been nice.
Agree, West was a good choice, and Bachman as well, I have no idea why the rest voted the way they did, unless Brayner made some serious promises after getting an embarrassing as whipping by Husein.
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AndyJackson

I did hear a very generic description of Boehner saying that his direct negotiations with Obama are finished, and that he's going to be representing a larger group of opinions, or some such yadayadayada.

As described, it sounds promising.  But we should have learned to believe nothing anymore, by now.

On the negative, he also said some crap about "not being in it for personal victories, but rather doing the right thing".  Which of course is the oppposite of what he did over the last year.

He's taking a page right out of the Obama playbook there.  Do one thing, then announce you've done just the opposite.  Obama usually throws in an accusation that his opponent is doing precisely what he's doing, too, lol.

Indy

Quote from: supsalemgr on January 04, 2013, 07:26:21 AM
http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/20130104/NEWS/130109903/1014?p=2&tc=pg

This is an opinion piece by a regular contributor to my local newpsaper. He also posts on a local board controlled by libs and runs them nuts. I think he sums up pretty well how dems operate during campaigns. If we are going to fight we need to also fight on the same level as the dems.
Did you read the first delusional response from a democrat that can't tell fact from fiction? Anyone with an honest bone in their body knows the man was spot on with truth of what was one of the most disgusting attacks on a man, who after forty years has one of the most stellar records of honesty I've ever heard of. Even after all the filth they threw at him he refused to lower himself to the same level. Personally I think it was a mistake not to respond in kind, especially when you consider the intellectual capacity of the current crop of leftists democrats. Hate and dishonesty seem to be all they are capable of.

raptor5618

I agree that Newt would have been able to fire back much more effectively than Romney.  I think West would have done well too although he could not win his own election.  I intellectually cannot understand how someone could vote for Obama but if you listen and believe the crap they said about Romney you would never want to vote for him.  Hell he wanted to put blacks back in slavery and women in bondage to men and take away their vote.   Take food out of the mouths of children and give it to rich fat old men. OH and kill granny. 

I am not sure how you fight a group that is so willing to just make stuff up no matter how shameful the lie is.
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AndyJackson

They are getting away with it and winning with it, so I'm not sure they care much whether some people like us know they're lying.

They only need a certain number, or certain demographics, to believe everything they say.  And apparently they've found them and locked them up.

I do remember how fervently the libs hated Atwater, then Rove and Cheney.  What did those guys do that worked, and was so hated by the leftists  ?  I know that Rove is part of the problem now, but what did he do that worked in the beginning of GW's run ?

I'd also like to study certain success stories, like the great run that the GOP is on, here in TN.

We know that the basic idea is to get out from under Boehner, OConnel, Rove, et al......but what's the plan beyond that  ?

Some have said "go full Hispanic", with George Bush 3, or Rubio, or Cruz, and so on.  I've always though that Condoleeza Rice was a winner that we've deftly avoided.

supsalemgr

Quote from: keyboarder on January 04, 2013, 04:37:29 AM
Sadly, Graham voted yay and he said that this would give him the leverage he wanted to holler about spending cuts.  I'm gonna' bet one of you a lunch (money mailed of course) that Graham doesn't say a thing about spending cuts of Obama's.  He's another McCain.

Is he up for re-election in 2014? Do you believe Trey Gowdy might run against him in the primary and what do you think his chances would be?
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raptor5618

I mostly agree but disagree on some points.  I think the GOP has to destroy the lies that are believed by Obama's base.  Nominating a minority might work but the Dems and lib media trash them so bad that no matter their ethnicity they are made out to be no inclusive in that group. 

I am not sure how much influence Rove had on this election. I know he had his pact but I doubt that he had much to do with how the campaign was run.   I personally think that Rove is a brilliant man when it comes to understanding what is going on politically.  I think he is able to see both sides of the issue and that helps when figuring out how to move forward.  I think Newt is also very smart and creative but is so biased that at times he cannot see the forest because of the trees.

Perhaps I have not studied these issues enough to come to the same conclusion as you but I think that in part Romney just like McCain started campaigning like they did not what to lose when it looked like they had a shot of actually winning.  McCain was opinionated and a straight shooter when he ran to get nominated and then when he won he seemed weak and timid.   Romney was never a real powerhouse but why he started using baseless arguments when there were so many arguments that could be backed by solid data is in my mind such a bad mistake.  Part of his allure was that he was pragmatic and informed.

I think then they shut Ryan up and had him parrot campaign slogans instead of talking about what he knew inside out.  Put him on a web site answering every question that anyone could come up with and he would never make a mistake.  I think that if Romney went on the offensive and attacked Obama for every issue that could only be countered with lies that once again could be shown to be lies Romney might have swayed just enough voters to overcome the nearly unanimous vote for Obama by the African American group. 

I know that as the campaign got towards the end I started to think that Romney would not be that pragmatic leader who did what was best for this country but instead was just one more politician trying to blow the right kind of smoke up my butt.  My enthusiasm faded but not enough not to vote for him but if I was on the fence about him at that time I might have not voted or voted for some other party thinking what difference does it make.   I think Bush was bad for this country although not as bad as Obama but if we were just getting another bush well the choice between really bad and just plain bad is not all that stimulating.
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Cryptic Bert

Quote from: Solar on January 03, 2013, 02:14:48 PM
Whatever happened to real men? :glare:
I really despise emotional men, and it may have had a lot to do with why he got screwed by Husein so badly, he relied on emotion, instead of following a core set of beliefs.
He FELT he could trust the Marxist... :rolleyes:
The water in Congress may be spiked with estrogen....

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 04, 2013, 03:06:29 PM
The water in Congress may be spiked with estrogen....
Dims wanting to level the playing field.
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