Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'

Started by Bronx, November 08, 2012, 02:30:59 PM

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kramarat

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
Sheesh! You are a huge lib, and a liar to boot!

I have never ever deleted or banned someone for their political views or simply because I didn't agree with them, not once!
But lying about me is not a bright move.
However, I will give you a chance to prove it or take it back, your choice, show me one time I banned someone for their political stance, other than white supremacists or racists.
Name one person!

Lib trolls that are only here to disrupt. After about 30 posts of BS, banning them seems appropriate.

That doesn't mean I always agree with you.

hfishjr81

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
Sheesh! You are a huge lib, and a liar to boot!



Please post something Ive lied about.   Im not a lib, though I do lean left on some issues. Im not a conservative though I also lean that way on others. I'd consider myself a rational thinker. True, Im wrong in my ways of thinking from time to time, but the ability to admit that is one of the traits that keeps me from being allowed in the Republican party. :P

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
But lying about me is not a bright move.
However, I will give you a chance to prove it or take it back, your choice, show me one time I banned someone for their political stance, other than white supremacists or racists.
Name one person!

Youve deleted comments made by me and I have PMs from you proving it. I am not lying about you. I was also banned by your minion taxed for not believing the same way as you guys and voicing my opinion. PLUS, you've already stated on many occasions now that people need to 'watch what they say, or else'. You threaten to ban when others defined themselves against your attacks. You use the fact that 'this is a conservative forum not a liberal forum' to defend your un-American ways.

Freedom of speech should not be cut short do to your lack of respect for others opinion, your forum, or not. Especially when you invite people to speak their mind, and then attack them. By doing this you're basically sucker punching people, and thats small minded, not to mention very cowardly. 
"According to Gallup, 68 percent of Americans want corporations to have less influence in America."

Solar

Quote from: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 04:21:43 PM

Please post something Ive lied about.   Im not a lib, though I do lean left on some issues. Im not a conservative though I also lean that way on others. I'd consider myself a rational thinker. True, Im wrong in my ways of thinking from time to time, but the ability to admit that is one of the traits that keeps me from being allowed in the Republican party. :P

I said you lied about my banning someone because of their political identity.
Something I never do, I only ban if someone is disruptive to the forum.
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Youve deleted comments made by me and I have PMs from you proving it. I am not lying about you.
If I did, it not because of your political views, get that through your head.
QuoteI was also banned by your minion taxed for not believing the same way as you guys and voicing my opinion.
So now the truth comes out, it wasn't me, and I know for a fact that Taxed didn't ban you for your political views either.

QuotePLUS, you've already stated on many occasions now that people need to 'watch what they say, or else'. You threaten to ban when others defined themselves against your attacks. You use the fact that 'this is a conservative forum not a liberal forum' to defend your un-American ways.
What part of Conservative Political Forum do you not get?
You do not have the the First Amendment protections on this forum I afford Conservatives, and by insulting me or the forum/members, you get booted, it's that simple!

QuoteFreedom of speech should not be cut short do to your lack of respect for others opinion, your forum, or not. Especially when you invite people to speak their mind, and then attack them. By doing this you're basically sucker punching people, and that's small minded, not to mention very cowardly.

Bull Shit, I afford everyone the ability to speak their piece, but when they get nasty or disrespectful they get a warning, ask Scififan, he's had several and he's still here and he's one of the biggest trolls on the forum.
But his time is running short, he is disrupting the forum, we are a debate forum, not a pissing match forum.
Can you understand that?

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QuotePlease post something Ive lied about.   Im not a lib, though I do lean left on some issues.

Fish, you make a fine whine.

Unless you have your own forum, you are a GUEST in someone elses home.  As a guest, you observe THEIR rules.  Your bickering is really classless.

hfishjr81

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:44:49 PM
I said you lied about my banning someone because of their political identity.
Something I never do, I only ban if someone is disruptive to the forum.

The problem with that^ is that "disrupting the forum" in your opinion is anyone that fights back insults thrown at them by those you deem regulars/conservatives.

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:44:49 PM
I know for a fact that Taxed didn't ban you for your political views either.

Taxed's words in the ban that I could read when trying to log in was 'banned for not seeing reality'. LOL, if thats not for my political views then ok, but it's certainly for stating my opinion and you guys disagreeing.

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:44:49 PM
What part of Conservative Political Forum do you not get?
You do not have the the First Amendment protections on this forum I afford Conservatives, and by insulting me or the forum/members, you get booted, it's that simple!

Bull Shit, I afford everyone the ability to speak their piece, but when they get nasty or disrespectful they get a warning, ask Scififan, he's had several and he's still here and he's one of the biggest trolls on the forum.
But his time is running short, he is disrupting the forum, we are a debate forum, not a pissing match forum.
Can you understand that?

I realize this is a conservative political forum, but you seemingly invite debate but when someone disagrees you and your cronies attack them, then, when they attack back, you ban, delete, or try to strong arm the discussion. 

You allow your certain people to disrespect others and get nasty, which is fine, but you become the school yard bully when you dont allow others to defend themselves based on "your house your rules" bs. 

If this is a debate forum than allow debate, but if you and yours attack others expect to be attacked back, and stop being a kid about it. That type of double standard cheapens this place, and that sucks, cause this could be a really cool spot to argue points and waste some time. 

Hope you understand that.   :smile:

"According to Gallup, 68 percent of Americans want corporations to have less influence in America."

hfishjr81

Quote from: Yawn on November 08, 2012, 05:07:55 PM
Fish, you make a fine whine.

Unless you have your own forum, you are a GUEST in someone elses home.  As a guest, you observe THEIR rules.  Your bickering is really classless.


And yours is kinda bitter, with a bad after taste.  :ohmy:


But I haven't read any rules here that state that guests are allowed to be attacked by regulars, and I certainly havent got the memo about guests not having the ability to defend themselves against those regulars. If that be the case then those rules should be posted where all can see before entering, that would at least give people the ability to make a proper decision upon joining. But hey, it is Solars joint so he can play bully if he wants, you got me there.
"According to Gallup, 68 percent of Americans want corporations to have less influence in America."

Solar

Quote from: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 05:13:22 PM
The problem with that^ is that "disrupting the forum" in your opinion is anyone that fights back insults thrown at them by those you deem regulars/conservatives.

Taxed's words in the ban that I could read when trying to log in was 'banned for not seeing reality'. LOL, if thats not for my political views then ok, but it's certainly for stating my opinion and you guys disagreeing.

I realize this is a conservative political forum, but you seemingly invite debate but when someone disagrees you and your cronies attack them, then, when they attack back, you ban, delete, or try to strong arm the discussion. 

You allow your certain people to disrespect others and get nasty, which is fine, but you become the school yard bully when you dont allow others to defend themselves based on "your house your rules" bs. 

If this is a debate forum than allow debate, but if you and yours attack others expect to be attacked back, and stop being a kid about it. That type of double standard cheapens this place, and that sucks, cause this could be a really cool spot to argue points and waste some time. 

Hope you understand that.   :smile:
I know Taxed, he was just being a smart ass, but if he put you in timeout, then I know you deserved it.
You don't seem to get it, we aren't a lib forum, you don't have the pleasure of being an ass, your presence alone is a tolerated disruption in and of itself, but when the libs start arguing, it becomes a forum wide disruption, something I've seen ruin other forums, something that will never happen to this forum.

Now, if you don't understand the simple meaning of debate as opposed to disruption, then I can't help you.
Point is, if someone insults you, don't respond, let them look like the fool, but if you, as the lib respond and itr escalates, you will be the one to suffer the penalty.
Fair? Too damn bad, it's not your forum, I started this forum to give Conservatives a safe place to vent, NOT LIBS.

Now do you get it?

You can piss, bitch and whine all you want, but in the end, I set the rules.
And I reiterate, I never ban anyone for being liberal, just being an ass, something I've banned more Conservatives for believe it or not.
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hfishjr81

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
I know Taxed, he was just being a smart ass, but if he put you in timeout, then I know you deserved it.



Oh, so not seeing his version of "reality" qualifies as "deserved", got it.  :thumbup:


Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Now, if you don't understand the simple meaning of debate as opposed to disruption, then I can't help you.
Point is, if someone insults you, don't respond, let them look like the fool, but if you, as the lib respond and itr escalates, you will be the one to suffer the penalty.
Fair? Too damn bad, it's not your forum, I started this forum to give Conservatives a safe place to vent, NOT LIBS.

Now do you get it?

Now if you dont understand the simple meaning of bullying as opposed to debate, then I can't help you.

But Im glad you are being open about your double standard, good job. That's a start. 
"According to Gallup, 68 percent of Americans want corporations to have less influence in America."

Solar

Quote from: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 06:28:02 PM

Oh, so not seeing his version of "reality" qualifies as "deserved", got it.  :thumbup:


Now if you dont understand the simple meaning of bullying as opposed to debate, then I can't help you.

But Im glad you are being open about your double standard, good job. That's a start.
I'm glad you just got slapped upside the head with a dose of reality.
Life's not fair, deal with it!
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hfishjr81

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 06:47:46 PM
I'm glad you just got slapped upside the head with a dose of reality.
Life's not fair, deal with it!


Im just surprised you were capable of honesty.  Agreed though, life's not always fair.   But hey, at least big bird is safe.


   :thumbsup:

"According to Gallup, 68 percent of Americans want corporations to have less influence in America."

Solar

Quote from: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 08:04:09 PM

Im just surprised you were capable of honesty.  Agreed though, life's not always fair.   But hey, at least big bird is safe.


   :thumbsup:
Of course you don't get it, that's the problem with libs, they think since they lie, they assume everyone else does.
Being a Conservative means being a man and owning your words.
A real mans worth is his word, if you don't have that, you're worthless.

Think about it, it's what separates Conservatives from RINO/Libs.
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Fish, do you want the address of an "uncensored forum" that i visited before I came here?  I thought the forum was either party opinion but it was as liberal as you can get.  There were about 4 of us conservatives on that forum and all we did was defend our opinions.  It didn't matter how far right you leaned, if they sensed it, they had you for breakfast, dinner and supper.  The mods, at one point and the reason i left, openly discussed a cons poster that was a friend of mine from another forum.  Their words were based on a comment  not unlike some i've heard on this forum and they didn't like it.  They discussed him on the forum, called him white trash and agreed to boot him off.  I know that he didn't care but that's not the point.  Anyway, he doesn't post there anymore and that was my cue for leaving as well.  All that arguing and name calling and vulgar language just shows a lack of intelligence.  I've done some of it myself in the past but just had to stop.  Who are you trying to impress with stuff like that?  It certainly is a turnoff to anyone who might like your normal opinion.  Don't tell me that it's your normal opinion.   :glare:
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hfishjr81

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 08:31:48 PM
Think about it, it's what separates Conservatives from RINO/Libs.


I disagree. I think being a good person is equal to being an honest person and that isn't monopolized by any party or label. 



Quote from: keyboarder on November 08, 2012, 08:45:01 PM
Fish, do you want the address of an "uncensored forum" that i visited before I came here?  I thought the forum was either party opinion but it was as liberal as you can get.  There were about 4 of us conservatives on that forum and all we did was defend our opinions.  It didn't matter how far right you leaned, if they sensed it, they had you for breakfast, dinner and supper.  The mods, at one point and the reason i left, openly discussed a cons poster that was a friend of mine from another forum.  Their words were based on a comment  not unlike some i've heard on this forum and they didn't like it.  They discussed him on the forum, called him white trash and agreed to boot him off.  I know that he didn't care but that's not the point.  Anyway, he doesn't post there anymore and that was my cue for leaving as well.  All that arguing and name calling and vulgar language just shows a lack of intelligence.  I've done some of it myself in the past but just had to stop.  Who are you trying to impress with stuff like that?  It certainly is a turnoff to anyone who might like your normal opinion.  Don't tell me that it's your normal opinion.   :glare:

The vulgar language some choose to post is unnecessary, I agree, though it has a time and place. 

Im not trying to impress anyone with my posts, I was just speaking my opinion. I am REALLY happy that Romney isnt the Prez. I also really enjoyed the political victory over people that say they"hate Obama cause he's Muslim" , LOL... Those lies got really old. However, I dont like Obama either, based on the fact that he's just another bought politician, but he will at least still allow for pre-existing condition coverage within his flawed healthcare legislation, and he is saying he wants to tax the wealthy a bit more which doesn't hurt my feelings, he is also an advocate for equal rights, and last, but not least, He's not a Mormon. :P Sorry, but anyone that believes they need to wear certain types of underwear as a pact to their god doesn't need their hands anywhere near nukes , just my opinion.  :blink:
"According to Gallup, 68 percent of Americans want corporations to have less influence in America."

kramarat

I honestly don't know what Boehner is supposed to do?

Once again, Obama has 2/3 of the government. More than that, if you include all of his appointed czars.

Obama blamed republicans when he had a super majority. He doesn't care. He'll just get on TV and lie.

In a way, it seems like a sound strategy to just let Obama take ownership of all of his bad policies, and sign off on them. It will drive conservatives nuts, but at the end of 4 more years, democrats will own the mess. If republicans fight, they will lose anyway, and just be called obstructionist.

I don't think anyone on the republican side knows what to do. Everything has to be looked at in the context, that a majority of the electorate likes what the last 4 years have brought, and wants 4 more. It's incomprehensible.

The democrat/liberals have taken the schools and all mainstream media outlets. Obama was able to run his campaign as a challenger. After 4 years, he came across as a blank tapestry that people could project whatever they wanted onto............again. No questions about the debt. No questions about the high unemployment. Most people still don't know what Obamacare is bringing, and nobody asked the question.

Obama voters are able to filter out things like fast and furious, massive debt, no passed budget and Benghazi. They just want shallow "feel good" messages, and they work. I think the only thing that's going to change that, is to allow Obama to pick their pockets clean, and leave them with nothing.