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Title: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Bronx on November 08, 2012, 02:30:59 PM
Lets get rid of this Rino. Shut this party down. I want someone in my party to lead not be led. Shut him down Ohio...PLEASE.

TEA!

(CNSNews.com) -- House Speaker John Boehner held a press briefing at the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday afternoon where he congratulated Barack Obama and indicated Republicans in Congress were ready to be led by him.

"Mr President, this is your moment. We're ready to be led," said Boehner. "Not as Democrats or Republicans but as Americans. We want you to lead not as a liberal or a conservative but as president of the United States of America.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/boehner-mr-president-your-moment-we-re-ready-be-led (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/boehner-mr-president-your-moment-we-re-ready-be-led)
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 08, 2012, 02:33:10 PM
I feel sick.....
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Bronx on November 08, 2012, 02:35:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 02:33:10 PM
I feel sick.....

Of my spelling....  :confused:

Let me go fix it... :lol:
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: MichaelJ on November 08, 2012, 02:42:18 PM
UGH, how about you leading Mr Boehner?
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Bronx on November 08, 2012, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: MichaelJ on November 08, 2012, 02:42:18 PM
UGH, how about you leading Mr Boehner?

He's third in line and he wants to be led. Help us Ohio Please.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Yawn on November 08, 2012, 02:49:08 PM
Quote from: MichaelJ on November 08, 2012, 02:42:18 PM
UGH, how about you leading Mr Boehner?

He'll have to. Obama "Leads from behind" remember?

In fairness though, I think he wants the country to understand that this is OBAMA'S, to sink (the country) or swim.

WE all know it's going down.  I think he wants the "masses": to understand that.  They really can't fight the President, Senate and the Courts.  All they can do is "obstruct"
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 08, 2012, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: Yawn on November 08, 2012, 02:49:08 PM
He'll have to. Obama "Leads from behind" remember?

In fairness though, I think he wants the country to understand that this is OBAMA'S, to sink (the country) or swim.

WE all know it's going down.  I think he wants the "masses": to understand that.  They really can't fight the President, Senate and the Courts.  All they can do is "obstruct"
Yeah, bend over Boener!
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Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
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Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Sci Fi Fan on November 08, 2012, 03:07:39 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 02:54:41 PM
Yeah, bend over Boener!
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So rightfully gloating over your vicious attacks on Nate Silver, me and other liberal members of this board is not conductive to debate, but this is?   :rolleyes:

Where are your facts, Solar?  Or is that just a pretty catchphrase?

Obama won, and as long as you display obvious butthurt over it, I'm not "gloating"; I'm just responding to your butthurt.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 08, 2012, 03:07:39 PM
So rightfully gloating over your vicious attacks on Nate Silver, me and other liberal members of this board is not conductive to debate, but this is?   :rolleyes:

Where are your facts, Solar?  Or is that just a pretty catchphrase?

Obama won, and as long as you display obvious butthurt over it, I'm not "gloating"; I'm just responding to your butthurt.


Eh, Ive got pages and pages of Solar's double standards. Many of his minions too. They can dish out insults by the ton but when you start in on them its game over. 

Either way, solar says this country is made up of majority center right, so, either they aren't smart enough to figure out the voting booth OR they love them some Obama. Maybe it's the latter? Seems like Boehner's on board.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Yawn on November 08, 2012, 03:48:29 PM
I'm really more interested in what NATE SILVER thinks of all this.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 08, 2012, 03:50:27 PM
Quote from: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 03:40:23 PM

Eh, Ive got pages and pages of Solar's double standards. Many of his minions too. They can dish out insults by the ton but when you start in on them its game over. 

Either way, solar says this country is made up of majority center right, so, either they aren't smart enough to figure out the voting booth OR they love them some Obama. Maybe it's the latter? Seems like Boehner's on board.  :popcorn:
Or you could simply post the numbers that prove me wrong rather than act like an ass.

Let me make this perfectly clear to you libs, you are allowed to post here at my pleasure, acting like children is the last thing you want to do, the Marxist may have gotten another four years to destroy the country, but I'll be damned if I'll allow you libs to do the same to this forum.

Do I make myself clear?

You don't like something I post, then refute it with facts, otherwise, STFU.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 03:59:16 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 03:50:27 PM
Or you could simply post the numbers that prove me wrong rather than act like an ass.


Aww, calm down, Solar.  It'll be ok.

But seriously, It's all good, obviously this country is "center right" leaning.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 03:50:27 PM
Let me make this perfectly clear to you libs, you are allowed to post here at my pleasure, acting like children is the last thing you want to do, the Marxist may have gotten another four years to destroy the country, but I'll be damned if I'll allow you libs to do the same to this forum.

Now let me make this perfectly clear to you. Im not a lib, but Im not a hive minded Republiblah either.

I do appreciate you allowing me to post here, however, you say some off the wall things that are often called out and then you choose to take a very un-American stance pertaining to freedom of speech on your forum (deleting and banning what you dont agree with) but hey, we cant all be perfect I guess.  :drool:
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
Quote from: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 03:59:16 PM

Aww, calm down, Solar.  It'll be ok.

But seriously, It's all good, obviously this country is "center right" leaning.  :rolleyes:

Now let me make this perfectly clear to you. Im not a lib, but Im not a hive minded Republiblah either.

I do appreciate you allowing me to post here, however, you say some off the wall things that are often called out and then you choose to take a very un-American stance pertaining to freedom of speech on your forum (deleting and banning what you dont agree with) but hey, we cant all be perfect I guess.  :drool:
Sheesh! You are a huge lib, and a liar to boot!

I have never ever deleted or banned someone for their political views or simply because I didn't agree with them, not once!
But lying about me is not a bright move.
However, I will give you a chance to prove it or take it back, your choice, show me one time I banned someone for their political stance, other than white supremacists or racists.
Name one person!
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Spatbat on November 08, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: Yawn on November 08, 2012, 03:48:29 PM
I'm really more interested in what NATE SILVER thinks of all this.

Agree with you that in the future we can trust Nate on statistical matters. Predicting all 50 states this time and 49/50 in 2008 is quite impressive.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: kramarat on November 08, 2012, 04:20:37 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
Sheesh! You are a huge lib, and a liar to boot!

I have never ever deleted or banned someone for their political views or simply because I didn't agree with them, not once!
But lying about me is not a bright move.
However, I will give you a chance to prove it or take it back, your choice, show me one time I banned someone for their political stance, other than white supremacists or racists.
Name one person!

Lib trolls that are only here to disrupt. After about 30 posts of BS, banning them seems appropriate.

That doesn't mean I always agree with you.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
Sheesh! You are a huge lib, and a liar to boot!



Please post something Ive lied about.   Im not a lib, though I do lean left on some issues. Im not a conservative though I also lean that way on others. I'd consider myself a rational thinker. True, Im wrong in my ways of thinking from time to time, but the ability to admit that is one of the traits that keeps me from being allowed in the Republican party. :P

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
But lying about me is not a bright move.
However, I will give you a chance to prove it or take it back, your choice, show me one time I banned someone for their political stance, other than white supremacists or racists.
Name one person!

Youve deleted comments made by me and I have PMs from you proving it. I am not lying about you. I was also banned by your minion taxed for not believing the same way as you guys and voicing my opinion. PLUS, you've already stated on many occasions now that people need to 'watch what they say, or else'. You threaten to ban when others defined themselves against your attacks. You use the fact that 'this is a conservative forum not a liberal forum' to defend your un-American ways.

Freedom of speech should not be cut short do to your lack of respect for others opinion, your forum, or not. Especially when you invite people to speak their mind, and then attack them. By doing this you're basically sucker punching people, and thats small minded, not to mention very cowardly. 
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:44:49 PM
Quote from: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 04:21:43 PM

Please post something Ive lied about.   Im not a lib, though I do lean left on some issues. Im not a conservative though I also lean that way on others. I'd consider myself a rational thinker. True, Im wrong in my ways of thinking from time to time, but the ability to admit that is one of the traits that keeps me from being allowed in the Republican party. :P

I said you lied about my banning someone because of their political identity.
Something I never do, I only ban if someone is disruptive to the forum.
Quote
Youve deleted comments made by me and I have PMs from you proving it. I am not lying about you.
If I did, it not because of your political views, get that through your head.
QuoteI was also banned by your minion taxed for not believing the same way as you guys and voicing my opinion.
So now the truth comes out, it wasn't me, and I know for a fact that Taxed didn't ban you for your political views either.

QuotePLUS, you've already stated on many occasions now that people need to 'watch what they say, or else'. You threaten to ban when others defined themselves against your attacks. You use the fact that 'this is a conservative forum not a liberal forum' to defend your un-American ways.
What part of Conservative Political Forum do you not get?
You do not have the the First Amendment protections on this forum I afford Conservatives, and by insulting me or the forum/members, you get booted, it's that simple!

QuoteFreedom of speech should not be cut short do to your lack of respect for others opinion, your forum, or not. Especially when you invite people to speak their mind, and then attack them. By doing this you're basically sucker punching people, and that's small minded, not to mention very cowardly.

Bull Shit, I afford everyone the ability to speak their piece, but when they get nasty or disrespectful they get a warning, ask Scififan, he's had several and he's still here and he's one of the biggest trolls on the forum.
But his time is running short, he is disrupting the forum, we are a debate forum, not a pissing match forum.
Can you understand that?

Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Yawn on November 08, 2012, 05:07:55 PM
QuotePlease post something Ive lied about.   Im not a lib, though I do lean left on some issues.

Fish, you make a fine whine.

Unless you have your own forum, you are a GUEST in someone elses home.  As a guest, you observe THEIR rules.  Your bickering is really classless.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 05:13:22 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:44:49 PM
I said you lied about my banning someone because of their political identity.
Something I never do, I only ban if someone is disruptive to the forum.

The problem with that^ is that "disrupting the forum" in your opinion is anyone that fights back insults thrown at them by those you deem regulars/conservatives.

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:44:49 PM
I know for a fact that Taxed didn't ban you for your political views either.

Taxed's words in the ban that I could read when trying to log in was 'banned for not seeing reality'. LOL, if thats not for my political views then ok, but it's certainly for stating my opinion and you guys disagreeing.

Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:44:49 PM
What part of Conservative Political Forum do you not get?
You do not have the the First Amendment protections on this forum I afford Conservatives, and by insulting me or the forum/members, you get booted, it's that simple!

Bull Shit, I afford everyone the ability to speak their piece, but when they get nasty or disrespectful they get a warning, ask Scififan, he's had several and he's still here and he's one of the biggest trolls on the forum.
But his time is running short, he is disrupting the forum, we are a debate forum, not a pissing match forum.
Can you understand that?

I realize this is a conservative political forum, but you seemingly invite debate but when someone disagrees you and your cronies attack them, then, when they attack back, you ban, delete, or try to strong arm the discussion. 

You allow your certain people to disrespect others and get nasty, which is fine, but you become the school yard bully when you dont allow others to defend themselves based on "your house your rules" bs. 

If this is a debate forum than allow debate, but if you and yours attack others expect to be attacked back, and stop being a kid about it. That type of double standard cheapens this place, and that sucks, cause this could be a really cool spot to argue points and waste some time. 

Hope you understand that.   :smile:

Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 05:19:36 PM
Quote from: Yawn on November 08, 2012, 05:07:55 PM
Fish, you make a fine whine.

Unless you have your own forum, you are a GUEST in someone elses home.  As a guest, you observe THEIR rules.  Your bickering is really classless.


And yours is kinda bitter, with a bad after taste.  :ohmy:


But I haven't read any rules here that state that guests are allowed to be attacked by regulars, and I certainly havent got the memo about guests not having the ability to defend themselves against those regulars. If that be the case then those rules should be posted where all can see before entering, that would at least give people the ability to make a proper decision upon joining. But hey, it is Solars joint so he can play bully if he wants, you got me there.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 08, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Quote from: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 05:13:22 PM
The problem with that^ is that "disrupting the forum" in your opinion is anyone that fights back insults thrown at them by those you deem regulars/conservatives.

Taxed's words in the ban that I could read when trying to log in was 'banned for not seeing reality'. LOL, if thats not for my political views then ok, but it's certainly for stating my opinion and you guys disagreeing.

I realize this is a conservative political forum, but you seemingly invite debate but when someone disagrees you and your cronies attack them, then, when they attack back, you ban, delete, or try to strong arm the discussion. 

You allow your certain people to disrespect others and get nasty, which is fine, but you become the school yard bully when you dont allow others to defend themselves based on "your house your rules" bs. 

If this is a debate forum than allow debate, but if you and yours attack others expect to be attacked back, and stop being a kid about it. That type of double standard cheapens this place, and that sucks, cause this could be a really cool spot to argue points and waste some time. 

Hope you understand that.   :smile:
I know Taxed, he was just being a smart ass, but if he put you in timeout, then I know you deserved it.
You don't seem to get it, we aren't a lib forum, you don't have the pleasure of being an ass, your presence alone is a tolerated disruption in and of itself, but when the libs start arguing, it becomes a forum wide disruption, something I've seen ruin other forums, something that will never happen to this forum.

Now, if you don't understand the simple meaning of debate as opposed to disruption, then I can't help you.
Point is, if someone insults you, don't respond, let them look like the fool, but if you, as the lib respond and itr escalates, you will be the one to suffer the penalty.
Fair? Too damn bad, it's not your forum, I started this forum to give Conservatives a safe place to vent, NOT LIBS.

Now do you get it?

You can piss, bitch and whine all you want, but in the end, I set the rules.
And I reiterate, I never ban anyone for being liberal, just being an ass, something I've banned more Conservatives for believe it or not.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Yawn on November 08, 2012, 05:44:18 PM
Is there any way, We the People can get this guy out before he destroys the party entirely?

***UPDATED WITH VIDEO*** Speaker Boeher is done fighting Obamacare: It's "the law of the land" (http://www.therightscoop.com/speaker-boeher-is-done-fighting-obamacare-its-the-law-of-the-land/)

He's completely given up the fight to stop Obamacare and Amnesty for 20 million ILLEGALS
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 06:28:02 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
I know Taxed, he was just being a smart ass, but if he put you in timeout, then I know you deserved it.



Oh, so not seeing his version of "reality" qualifies as "deserved", got it.  :thumbup:


Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Now, if you don't understand the simple meaning of debate as opposed to disruption, then I can't help you.
Point is, if someone insults you, don't respond, let them look like the fool, but if you, as the lib respond and itr escalates, you will be the one to suffer the penalty.
Fair? Too damn bad, it's not your forum, I started this forum to give Conservatives a safe place to vent, NOT LIBS.

Now do you get it?

Now if you dont understand the simple meaning of bullying as opposed to debate, then I can't help you.

But Im glad you are being open about your double standard, good job. That's a start. 
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 08, 2012, 06:47:46 PM
Quote from: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 06:28:02 PM

Oh, so not seeing his version of "reality" qualifies as "deserved", got it.  :thumbup:


Now if you dont understand the simple meaning of bullying as opposed to debate, then I can't help you.

But Im glad you are being open about your double standard, good job. That's a start.
I'm glad you just got slapped upside the head with a dose of reality.
Life's not fair, deal with it!
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 08:04:09 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 06:47:46 PM
I'm glad you just got slapped upside the head with a dose of reality.
Life's not fair, deal with it!


Im just surprised you were capable of honesty.  Agreed though, life's not always fair.   But hey, at least big bird is safe.


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Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 08, 2012, 08:31:48 PM
Quote from: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 08:04:09 PM

Im just surprised you were capable of honesty.  Agreed though, life's not always fair.   But hey, at least big bird is safe.


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Of course you don't get it, that's the problem with libs, they think since they lie, they assume everyone else does.
Being a Conservative means being a man and owning your words.
A real mans worth is his word, if you don't have that, you're worthless.

Think about it, it's what separates Conservatives from RINO/Libs.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: keyboarder on November 08, 2012, 08:45:01 PM
Fish, do you want the address of an "uncensored forum" that i visited before I came here?  I thought the forum was either party opinion but it was as liberal as you can get.  There were about 4 of us conservatives on that forum and all we did was defend our opinions.  It didn't matter how far right you leaned, if they sensed it, they had you for breakfast, dinner and supper.  The mods, at one point and the reason i left, openly discussed a cons poster that was a friend of mine from another forum.  Their words were based on a comment  not unlike some i've heard on this forum and they didn't like it.  They discussed him on the forum, called him white trash and agreed to boot him off.  I know that he didn't care but that's not the point.  Anyway, he doesn't post there anymore and that was my cue for leaving as well.  All that arguing and name calling and vulgar language just shows a lack of intelligence.  I've done some of it myself in the past but just had to stop.  Who are you trying to impress with stuff like that?  It certainly is a turnoff to anyone who might like your normal opinion.  Don't tell me that it's your normal opinion.   :glare:
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 09:24:47 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 08:31:48 PM
Think about it, it's what separates Conservatives from RINO/Libs.


I disagree. I think being a good person is equal to being an honest person and that isn't monopolized by any party or label. 



Quote from: keyboarder on November 08, 2012, 08:45:01 PM
Fish, do you want the address of an "uncensored forum" that i visited before I came here?  I thought the forum was either party opinion but it was as liberal as you can get.  There were about 4 of us conservatives on that forum and all we did was defend our opinions.  It didn't matter how far right you leaned, if they sensed it, they had you for breakfast, dinner and supper.  The mods, at one point and the reason i left, openly discussed a cons poster that was a friend of mine from another forum.  Their words were based on a comment  not unlike some i've heard on this forum and they didn't like it.  They discussed him on the forum, called him white trash and agreed to boot him off.  I know that he didn't care but that's not the point.  Anyway, he doesn't post there anymore and that was my cue for leaving as well.  All that arguing and name calling and vulgar language just shows a lack of intelligence.  I've done some of it myself in the past but just had to stop.  Who are you trying to impress with stuff like that?  It certainly is a turnoff to anyone who might like your normal opinion.  Don't tell me that it's your normal opinion.   :glare:

The vulgar language some choose to post is unnecessary, I agree, though it has a time and place. 

Im not trying to impress anyone with my posts, I was just speaking my opinion. I am REALLY happy that Romney isnt the Prez. I also really enjoyed the political victory over people that say they"hate Obama cause he's Muslim" , LOL... Those lies got really old. However, I dont like Obama either, based on the fact that he's just another bought politician, but he will at least still allow for pre-existing condition coverage within his flawed healthcare legislation, and he is saying he wants to tax the wealthy a bit more which doesn't hurt my feelings, he is also an advocate for equal rights, and last, but not least, He's not a Mormon. :P Sorry, but anyone that believes they need to wear certain types of underwear as a pact to their god doesn't need their hands anywhere near nukes , just my opinion.  :blink:
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: kramarat on November 09, 2012, 02:52:43 AM
I honestly don't know what Boehner is supposed to do?

Once again, Obama has 2/3 of the government. More than that, if you include all of his appointed czars.

Obama blamed republicans when he had a super majority. He doesn't care. He'll just get on TV and lie.

In a way, it seems like a sound strategy to just let Obama take ownership of all of his bad policies, and sign off on them. It will drive conservatives nuts, but at the end of 4 more years, democrats will own the mess. If republicans fight, they will lose anyway, and just be called obstructionist.

I don't think anyone on the republican side knows what to do. Everything has to be looked at in the context, that a majority of the electorate likes what the last 4 years have brought, and wants 4 more. It's incomprehensible.

The democrat/liberals have taken the schools and all mainstream media outlets. Obama was able to run his campaign as a challenger. After 4 years, he came across as a blank tapestry that people could project whatever they wanted onto............again. No questions about the debt. No questions about the high unemployment. Most people still don't know what Obamacare is bringing, and nobody asked the question.

Obama voters are able to filter out things like fast and furious, massive debt, no passed budget and Benghazi. They just want shallow "feel good" messages, and they work. I think the only thing that's going to change that, is to allow Obama to pick their pockets clean, and leave them with nothing.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Yawn on November 09, 2012, 05:08:55 AM
QuoteIn a way, it seems like a sound strategy to just let Obama take ownership of all of his bad policies, and sign off on them.

I agree with that, in this particular case, but he has a problem with creating a debate even when there isn't one already going on.

He's also leading an effort by the RINOs to drive the Tea Party out of Congress. Like the Liberals, the RINOs believe the Tea Party candidates are the problem with the Republican Party.

The guy is evil and needs to go, but WE are powerless to get him out.  All we can do is give the more Constitutionalists candidates in office. WE failed to do that this time.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: kramarat on November 09, 2012, 05:28:07 AM
Quote from: Yawn on November 09, 2012, 05:08:55 AM
I agree with that, in this particular case, but he has a problem with creating a debate even when there isn't one already going on.

He's also leading an effort by the RINOs to drive the Tea Party out of Congress. Like the Liberals, the RINOs believe the Tea Party candidates are the problem with the Republican Party.

The guy is evil and needs to go, but WE are powerless to get him out.  All we can do is give the more Constitutionalists candidates in office. WE failed to do that this time.

I've been trying to get my brain wrapped around the reality of what's coming in January, as far as the tax increases that are coming, Obamacare, etc. Anyone that still has a job is going to be feeling the hit.

The people that thought that Obama was going to soak the rich and give breaks to everyone else, are going to find out the truth.

As depressing as it is, Obama's lame duck term is going to be a fascinating thing to witness. His own actions, as well as the 2016 movie and several books, have indicated that his true intention is to knock America down several pegs, downgrading our global status to a marginal one.

Now that he has nothing to campaign for and no reason to try to keep people happy, we will see if that is truly his agenda, or if he honestly loves the country and wants to restore our greatness. If it's taking us down, the left will be forced to acknowledge it. There will be no one else to blame.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Yawn on November 09, 2012, 05:32:37 AM
From everything I'm seeing and hearing, we're going to become a PART-TIME economy.  People will be forced to depend on the government for healthcare.  Larger companies will layoff employees to get below the minimum threshold where they're expected to provide healthcare or pay the fine.  Larger employers will pay the fine and you'll still depend of government healthcare.

They REALLY screwed this country up and now, because WE didn't fix it, it'll be set in stone.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 09, 2012, 05:36:38 AM
Quote from: hfishjr81 on November 08, 2012, 09:24:47 PM

I disagree. I think being a good person is equal to being an honest person and that isn't monopolized by any party or label. 

In politics there is no real honesty, but to a conservative, these people are our representatives, they are supposed to be an extension of us, the constituent.
It's the reason we kick scum out of office and the reason the Dim/lib circle the wagons to protect it.

Now tell me again about one party monopolizing corruption over the other.
 
Quoteand he is saying he wants to tax the wealthy a bit more which doesn't hurt my feelings, he is also an advocate for equal rights,
:blink:... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
And you wonder why we give you so much crap?
Since I know you'll never figure it out, you and he are total hypocrites.

Quoteand last, but not least, He's not a Mormon. :P Sorry, but anyone that believes they need to wear certain types of underwear as a pact to their god doesn't need their hands anywhere near nukes , just my opinion.  :blink:
Yet overlook Hussein spending 20+ years in a black separatist Racist Church?

Man, you really need to check your base morals, look and see if someone hasn't stolen them.
Please read what I said and tell me honestly if you get it or not.
Your entire post is filled with dishonesty in the form of lying to yourself and hypocrisy .
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: kramarat on November 09, 2012, 05:42:25 AM
Quote from: Yawn on November 09, 2012, 05:32:37 AM
From everything I'm seeing and hearing, we're going to become a PART-TIME economy.  People will be forced to depend on the government for healthcare.  Larger companies will layoff employees to get below the minimum threshold where they're expected to provide healthcare or pay the fine.  Larger employers will pay the fine and you'll still depend of government healthcare.

They REALLY screwed this country up and now, because WE didn't fix it, it'll be set in stone.

The single largest tax increase in US history. The republicans really screwed the pooch when they allowed themselves to get dragged into the stupid birth control/abortion debate. I hope it doesn't cost us the country.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Yawn on November 09, 2012, 05:44:55 AM
Unfortunately the MSM made it the debate, not the Repub Party.  I also underestimated their power over the masses.  Idiots still listen to ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN

Nobody listens to MSLSD
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: kramarat on November 09, 2012, 05:55:19 AM
Quote from: Yawn on November 09, 2012, 05:44:55 AM
Unfortunately the MSM made it the debate, not the Repub Party.  I also underestimated their power over the masses.  Idiots still listen to ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN

Nobody listens to MSLSD

Akin didn't help matters. They were able to pin his position on the entire republican party. Quite frankly, Romney never had any intention of banning abortion, but he did a really crappy job of explaining it. The left capitalized on it.

I have to head out to work, but this afternoon I'm going to post a thread on what I think the GOP official position should be, on birth control and abortion. Allowing these things to determine the entire direction of the country, is not working out well.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Yawn on November 09, 2012, 06:18:16 AM
You just can't make the argument that dismantling Roe v Wade (it has to be) doesn't make it illegal.  It goes back to the states. Some will make it illegal, and others will still permit turning your child into hamburger.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 06:18:32 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 04:44:49 PM
I said you lied about my banning someone because of their political identity.
Something I never do, I only ban if someone is disruptive to the forum.If I did, it not because of your political views, get that through your head.So now the truth comes out, it wasn't me, and I know for a fact that Taxed didn't ban you for your political views either.
What part of Conservative Political Forum do you not get?
You do not have the the First Amendment protections on this forum I afford Conservatives, and by insulting me or the forum/members, you get booted, it's that simple!

Bull Shit, I afford everyone the ability to speak their piece, but when they get nasty or disrespectful they get a warning, ask Scififan, he's had several and he's still here and he's one of the biggest trolls on the forum.
But his time is running short, he is disrupting the forum, we are a debate forum, not a pissing match forum.
Can you understand that?

A debate forum that affords, and I am quoting you, "first amendment protections" only to Conservatives?  That's not a debate forum.  That's a kangaroo court.

Now, I realize First Amendment protections do not apply to private entities. But when you stack the deck in favor of those who agree with you, you cease to be a debate forum. 
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Yawn on November 09, 2012, 06:27:49 AM
Do you understand the First Amendment?  As the FOUNDERS envisioned it?

You were given the right to a difference of RELIGIOUS Opinion and POLITICAL Opinion.

There were community standards that had nothing to do with the First Amendment.

pornography would not have been granted 1st Amendment rights. Vulgarity would not be either.  And neither would the "Shouting FIRE! in a crowded theater"

The left seems to consistently violate all three.

He told you to debate ISSUES and TOPICS.  You have those rights. 
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 09, 2012, 06:29:19 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 06:18:32 AM
A debate forum that affords, and I am quoting you, "first amendment protections" only to Conservatives?  That's not a debate forum.  That's a kangaroo court.

Now, I realize First Amendment protections do not apply to private entities. But when you stack the deck in favor of those who agree with you, you cease to be a debate forum.
The fact that you're still here speaks volumes to my leniency.
If I played a heavy hand, you would have been gone for your insolence long ago.

By the way, I'm still waiting for a response on that post you dodged twice yesterday.
But everyone here knows you're not here for debate, rather just rude behavior, but atypical of a lib with a low intellect.
You really do bore me you know.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 06:30:17 AM
Quote from: Yawn on November 09, 2012, 06:27:49 AM
Do you understand the First Amendment?  As the FOUNDERS envisioned it?

You were given the right to a difference of RELIGIOUS Opinion and POLITICAL Opinion.

There were community standards that had nothing to do with the First Amendment.

pornography would not have been granted 1st Amendment rights. Vulgarity would not be either.  And neither would the "Shouting FIRE! in a crowded theater"

The left seems to consistently violate all three.

He told you to debate ISSUES and TOPICS.  You have those rights.

Yes, but thanks for the condescending lecture.  Did you read the forum owner's post?  "you do not have the first amendment rights I afford Conservatives."
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 06:31:07 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2012, 06:29:19 AM
The fact that you're still here speaks volumes to my leniency.
If I played a heavy hand, you would have been gone for your insolence long ago.

By the way, I'm still waiting for a response on that post you dodged twice yesterday.
But everyone here knows you're not here for debate, rather just rude behavior, but atypical of a lib with a low intellect.
You really do bore me you know.

So ignore me.  Or boot me.  It's your little pond, you know.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 09, 2012, 06:39:55 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 06:31:07 AM
So ignore me.  Or boot me.  It's your little pond, you know.
Why? You are a perfect example of liberalism failed.

Now answer my questions on that other post, or is it you can't without looking like a fool?
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 06:41:48 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2012, 06:39:55 AM
Why? You are a perfect example of liberalism failed.

Now answer my questions on that other post, or is it you can't without looking like a fool?

Unlike the other 19 posters in this massively successful conservative forum, I don't hang on your every word nor do I follow every thread. And if I bore you, why do you care?  To which post are you referring?
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 09, 2012, 06:48:21 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 06:41:48 AM
Unlike the other 19 posters in this massively successful conservative forum, I don't hang on your every word nor do I follow every thread. And if I bore you, why do you care?  To which post are you referring?
Stop running away and answer my question.

Yep, and since he is clueless as to how a free mkt economy functions, he does what Govt does best, tax!
Now with that in mind, we know he has two choices, tax the Hell out of people, or print/borrow money, both of which are negatives for the country.

But here's the problem, at what point will the world lose faith in the dollar?
Of course no one knows the answer, but it doesn't take a genius to see at some point our dollar will no longer be a safe investment, at which point hyper inflation will end our very way of life because the world moved to a better holding, be it gold or another economy, but they will dump us in a heart beat.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:21:11 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2012, 06:48:21 AM
Stop running away and answer my question.

Yep, and since he is clueless as to how a free mkt economy functions, he does what Govt does best, tax!
Now with that in mind, we know he has two choices, tax the Hell out of people, or print/borrow money, both of which are negatives for the country.

But here's the problem, at what point will the world lose faith in the dollar?
Of course no one knows the answer, but it doesn't take a genius to see at some point our dollar will no longer be a safe investment, at which point hyper inflation will end our very way of life because the world moved to a better holding, be it gold or another economy, but they will dump us in a heart beat.

I'm not running away.  Unlike you and the other geniuses on the far right, I have not made myself independently wealthy, despite being in my mid 60's,  by following the precepts of Ayn Rand and thus do not have unlimited time to attend TEA party rallies and bitch about the far left.  I have to do something every now and then to make sure the revenue keeps coming in.

There are more choices than that.  But you admit yourself no one knows the answer to the question you asked.  All I can say is, we'll see.  I know that the national debt, as a percent of GNP, was higher in 1947 (due to fighting a big war) than it is now and it got paid down during a period of postwar prosperity that occurred despite very high marginal tax rates.  I also know that only spending reductions wil not fix our problem, and I also know that the problem we have was not caused just by Dims.  The national debt doubled on Reagan's watch, and then again on Bushie II's.  I also know that coming together in a bi-partisan effort to fix it, as Boehner (the "RINO") has pledged is not a bad thing.  It's putting country before ideology, but I know that's a completely foreign concept to geniuses like you and your ilk.

Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: TowardLiberty on November 09, 2012, 07:42:24 AM
"We're ready to be led."

.... speak for yourself, Mr. Boehner.

Some of us have no need for political leaders.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 09, 2012, 07:48:06 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:21:11 AM
I'm not running away.  Unlike you and the other geniuses on the far right, I have not made myself independently wealthy, despite being in my mid 60's,  by following the precepts of Ayn Rand and thus do not have unlimited time to attend TEA party rallies and bitch about the far left.  I have to do something every now and then to make sure the revenue keeps coming in.

There are more choices than that.  But you admit yourself no one knows the answer to the question you asked.  All I can say is, we'll see.  I know that the national debt, as a percent of GNP, was higher in 1947 (due to fighting a big war) than it is now and it got paid down during a period of postwar prosperity that occurred despite very high marginal tax rates.  I also know that only spending reductions wil not fix our problem, and I also know that the problem we have was not caused just by Dims.  The national debt doubled on Reagan's watch, and then again on Bushie II's.  I also know that coming together in a bi-partisan effort to fix it, as Boehner (the "RINO") has pledged is not a bad thing.  It's putting country before ideology, but I know that's a completely foreign concept to geniuses like you and your ilk.
Why is it you make excuses for the road were on?
No one ever said this was only a problem with the left, the point is, the world has tolerated our debt only because they have no other currency to back.
But we just had a Marxist raise our debt a trillion for every year he was in office and plans on doing even more over the next four, as well as print money, further devaluing the dollar.
At some point the world will stop and divest itself of our model.

Telling the POTUS that we plan on backing his plan is akin to being an accomplice to murder, throwing out ideology and acquiescing, or rather capitulating with the enemy is treason, especially when the POTUS is Hell bent on fundamentally changing the country into that of a European socialist failed system.

Do you care nothing of what our Founding Fathers gave us, do you care nothing for the future generation?
You know very well the path were on is a path to destruction, we are spending the Nation into debt.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:55:11 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2012, 07:48:06 AM
Why is it you make excuses for the road were on?
No one ever said this was only a problem with the left, the point is, the world has tolerated our debt only because they have no other currency to back.
But we just had a Marxist raise our debt a trillion for every year he was in office and plans on doing even more over the next four, as well as print money, further devaluing the dollar.
At some point the world will stop and divest itself of our model.

Telling the POTUS that we plan on backing his plan is akin to being an accomplice to murder, throwing out ideology and acquiescing, or rather capitulating with the enemy is treason, especially when the POTUS is Hell bent on fundamentally changing the country into that of a European socialist failed system.

Do you care nothing of what our Founding Fathers gave us, do you care nothing for the future generation?
You know very well the path were on is a path to destruction, we are spending the Nation into debt.

We'll see.  I am betting there is sunshine ahead. You're not.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: Solar on November 09, 2012, 07:59:19 AM
Quote from: TowardLiberty on November 09, 2012, 07:42:24 AM
"We're ready to be led."

.... speak for yourself, Mr. Boehner.

Some of us have no need for political leaders.
I agree, political leader is akin to sports hero, both are a misnomer.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: hfishjr81 on November 09, 2012, 07:59:59 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2012, 05:36:38 AM
In politics there is no real honesty, but to a conservative, these people are our representatives, they are supposed to be an extension of us, the constituent.

Conservatives are far from always honest, this election proved that on many occasions. From spreading lies about Obama's religion, to skewing the positives pertaining to the current healthcare legislation. The political conservatives will say anything to try and get their way. 

Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2012, 05:36:38 AM
Man, you really need to check your base morals, look and see if someone hasn't stolen them.
Please read what I said and tell me honestly if you get it or not.
Your entire post is filled with dishonesty in the form of lying to yourself and hypocrisy .

My base morals are fine pertaining to my thoughts on equality, though, as Ive stated many times, politicians on both sides are being used by big business to steal from all of us, and that is morally bankrupt.

Your entire posts are filled with double standards, and lacking any perspective outside of your small box. You need to step out and look around, it will help in future discussion. Maybe even allow you the opportunity to breathe a little better after this last political victory.

Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: TowardLiberty on November 09, 2012, 08:11:49 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2012, 07:59:19 AM
I agree, political leader is akin to sports hero, both are a misnomer.

Quite true.

Typically leaders do not need to force people, at gun point, to do what they want them to!
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 08:13:52 AM
Quote from: TowardLiberty on November 09, 2012, 08:11:49 AM
Quite true.

Typically leaders do not need to force people, at gun point, to do what they want them to!

Someone's using gun point?
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: TowardLiberty on November 09, 2012, 08:26:01 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 08:13:52 AM
Someone's using gun point?

Oh yes.

Those people in government have no problem seeing violence used to enforce their will, or to take their "paychecks."

The state is the only entity that can legally initiate force and aggression.

The reason the decisions and policies of the state are so hotly contested and controversial, is that after they are passed and made into law, they are forced on to people, with violence backing it up, regardless of their opinion on the matter.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 08:46:01 AM
Quote from: TowardLiberty on November 09, 2012, 08:26:01 AM
Oh yes.

Those people in government have no problem seeing violence used to enforce their will, or to take their "paychecks."

The state is the only entity that can legally initiate force and aggression.

The reason the decisions and policies of the state are so hotly contested and controversial, is that after they are passed and made into law, they are forced on to people, with violence backing it up, regardless of their opinion on the matter.

"the sky is falling!  the sky is falling!"
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: keyboarder on November 09, 2012, 08:58:24 AM
Boehner is tired of his job but not his paycheck.  He's got two years to help Obama and that's two years too many.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: TowardLiberty on November 09, 2012, 09:06:16 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 08:46:01 AM
"the sky is falling!  the sky is falling!"

???

Nothing about my post is predicting any dire emergency.

This is nothing but a cold analysis of politics, in all times and places.
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: MichaelJ on November 09, 2012, 09:08:55 AM
I think Mr Boehner just misspelled a word, he meant to say "we're ready to be laid"
Title: Re: Boehner: 'Mr. President, This Is Your Moment. We’re Ready to Be Led'
Post by: keyboarder on November 09, 2012, 10:06:20 AM
 :blushing:  True enough!  That's about what it'll amount to but he can't win for us with this ideaology.  He's just offered his resignation whether he wanted to or not.