Quote from: AndyJackson on November 22, 2014, 04:09:49 PM
That would be a real trick.  The black people of Ferguson actually getting mad at Obama & Holder for supporting lunatics from East STL, Chicago,  ATL, etc......coming in and burning down their city.

Reminds me of the Palestinians, whom BO & Holder love.

Burn the place down, cops standing down......"bwahahaha we win vs the cops !!"

Get mowed down by the cops....."waaahhh brutality racism police state.....MSM win".

Burn the place down......."oh, woe is me, we are displaced and without hope, somebody else's fault".

If we can enlist real American, conservative Black Folks, in stomping out this bullshit......that's the game changer.

Beyond their shared  'values' Obama has little in common with Rev. Al, the Huckster and he would gladly throw him under the bus as fast as did his mentor, Rev. Wright, if he sees it  may divert attention from hisowndamnself (and his henchman, Eric Holder)

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 22, 2014, 04:25:18 PM
The polls say otherwise. Here and here and here, just as a few examples, all of which show that the black vote went 90+% Democrat, as usual.

I can see the possibility of a long-term trend of blacks leaving the Democrats behind, but it has only just begun, and has a long way to go. What hurt the Dems this time around was not a lack of black loyalty. What hurt them was a lack of black turnout.

Ditto.  They are just waiting for more demagoguery to pull them back into the fold.  They aren't actively marching and relocating.  I promise.

If Hillary's "ahhhhh ain't nowhey's taaaahhhhrrrred" stupidity doesn't work.....then Warren's Indian-Black-Reparations will.  Or Biden's "Chains".  Or the residual NBP or Farrakhan or Chris Rock or WTF ever.

This is not a constituency that decides quickly, and packs up and moves.  It's a highly skewed, conditoned, stubborn demographic that needs to be worked with for 10-20 years.  We will not change the bullshit, PR, MSM effect in just the 2014 election, that's been cultivated by the dems from 1964 until now.  50 years and 3 generations.

We need to work the change, not just assume it.

If we wait for everyone to just magically see the light..........F   us.  Please don't.  Do the work.

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 22, 2014, 04:25:18 PM
The polls say otherwise. Here and here and here, just as a few examples, all of which show that the black vote went 90+% Democrat, as usual.

I can see the possibility of a long-term trend of blacks leaving the Democrats behind, but it has only just begun, and has a long way to go. What hurt the Dems this time around was not a lack of black loyalty. What hurt them was a lack of black turnout.

Could the lack of turnout be that a lot of Blacks are also tired of hearing the race card used on everything? Race relations under this administration are at a new low from their overuse on every subject you can think of.
A good example is the reports from Ferguson that the blacks from that area are getting really upset by the people who have come into their community preaching violence and riot! a Growing number of blacks are feeling used by their party and this administration!!  

Quote from: wally on November 22, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Beyond their shared  'values' Obama has little in common with Rev. Al, the Huckster and he would gladly throw him under the bus as fast as did his mentor, Rev. Wright, if he sees it  may divert attention from hisowndamnself (and his henchman, Eric Holder)

I think you overvalue their selfishness.  Of course they're all in it for their selves.  Selfish SOB's, 'til the end.

But.....they do share an overarching goal of "F America".

They will always have both in their sights.

We need to see both, day by day.  Or else they are the superior tactictians, and we are the rubes.

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 22, 2014, 04:25:18 PM
The polls say otherwise. Here and here and here, just as a few examples, all of which show that the black vote went 90+% Democrat, as usual.

I can see the possibility of a long-term trend of blacks leaving the Democrats behind, but it has only just begun, and has a long way to go. What hurt the Dems this time around was not a lack of black loyalty. What hurt them was a lack of black turnout.

Did you account for fraud?
Everything I've been reading says quite the opposite, so I can only assume fraud.

Quote from: redbeard on November 22, 2014, 04:59:26 PM
Could the lack of turnout be that a lot of Blacks are also tired of hearing the race card used on everything? Race relations under this administration are at a new low from their overuse on every subject you can think of.
A good example is the reports from Ferguson that the blacks from that area are getting really upset by the people who have come into their community preaching violence and riot! a Growing number of blacks are feeling used by their party and this administration!!

Well, I'm not black but I do think there are a whole lot of them disturbed about Obama's EO last week. I would be getting tired of being taken for granted by the Democrat Party and would resent being replaced by a bunch of illegals.

Little hope for the GOP to make them flip to them, except maybe with black men - they are much more likely to vote Republican than black women are, for obvious reasons.

Quote from: jungle x on November 22, 2014, 05:15:57 PM
Well, I'm not black but I do think there are a whole lot of them disturbed about Obama's EO last week. I would be getting tired of being taken for granted by the Democrat Party and would resent being replaced by a bunch of illegals.

Little hope for the GOP to make them flip to them, except maybe with black men - they are much more likely to vote Republican than black women are, for obvious reasons.

Well i'll give and observation that may mean something or may not. For the last 6 years in the plant I work in There were Obama shirts all over the place. Seemed like every Black in the plant had more then one. One woman in particular always wore a black pride or Obama shirt everyday. one day about 6 months ago she stopped wearing them. I don't think for a moment that she's a conservative republican but it looks like she is not an Obama supporter anymore.

Quote from: Solar on November 22, 2014, 03:42:06 PM..... I think we just coined a new term for Obola fuck ups. "Pullin a Gruber".

Here's an entire thread over on GlockTalk on Obama'isms.........................

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1551168

The fact is many,many blacks are very conservative people. They have just been so brainwashed by the subversive left that they can't see straight.

Quote from: Solar on November 22, 2014, 01:11:11 PM
Gruber sure spilled that pot of shit all over the Dims.

But the timing was off, or else the GOP would have swept the 2014 elections. (Unfortunately, some Dems escaped alive...dammit.)

The lamestream presstitutes have essentially ignored Gruber and with loyalists at NPR, the New Yawk Slimes and the Associated Press (and THEIR selective amnesia), we can expect ANY effort to capitalize on Gruber will be chalked off as post-election rancor, move along, partisan bullshit, nothing to see. And the whores keep scribbling tripe, soft-pedaling Der Fubar's many splendid failures.

The majority of voters get their news by TV. It's gonna be a long two years of investigations, and bigger efforts to just get the public's attention. By the time the 2016 elections roll by, Fast and Furious and similar EARLY Obama-bungles will have achieved that same status. By then the public will simply want to be rid of Hussein, let's move along before the birth-certificate thing proves real and EVERY thing Obama did became a monstrous joke on America.

Starting with, how can a man with no experience successfully running ANYTHING become President? Why didn't voters just ask, what's he ever done besides talk fast and flowery?

Keep in mind that most black activists are coming at BHO from the left and from their skin color. IOW, BHO isn't Progressive enough, and not racialist enough for them. They do not and cannot see that Progressive and racialist policies/actions are destructive.

Quote from: quiller on November 23, 2014, 06:38:32 AM
But the timing was off, or else the GOP would have swept the 2014 elections. (Unfortunately, some Dems escaped alive...dammit.)

The lamestream presstitutes have essentially ignored Gruber and with loyalists at NPR, the New Yawk Slimes and the Associated Press (and THEIR selective amnesia), we can expect ANY effort to capitalize on Gruber will be chalked off as post-election rancor, move along, partisan bullshit, nothing to see. And the whores keep scribbling tripe, soft-pedaling Der Fubar's many splendid failures.

The majority of voters get their news by TV. It's gonna be a long two years of investigations, and bigger efforts to just get the public's attention. By the time the 2016 elections roll by, Fast and Furious and similar EARLY Obama-bungles will have achieved that same status. By then the public will simply want to be rid of Hussein, let's move along before the birth-certificate thing proves real and EVERY thing Obama did became a monstrous joke on America.

Starting with, how can a man with no experience successfully running ANYTHING become President? Why didn't voters just ask, what's he ever done besides talk fast and flowery?

And that explains Bloody Nov how?

Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2014, 07:50:59 AM
And that explains Bloody Nov how?

November was the general malaise catching up with the generally incompetent. By the 2016 elections our media will have done whatever they can to erase all that, to elect whoever the Donks want.

Quote from: quiller on November 23, 2014, 06:54:18 PM
November was the general malaise catching up with the generally incompetent. By the 2016 elections our media will have done whatever they can to erase all that, to elect whoever the Donks want.

You mean, they'll try.

Quote from: wally on November 22, 2014, 03:57:10 PM
You just may be correct!  Perhaps the first sign of ehether they have had it with Obama will be if they begin to dis his buddy, Al Sharpten and call fo his prosecution for tax evasion (and maybe even inciting a riot, if blacks in Furguson, suffer from black on black crime from outside agitators and criminals)

Understand. both Sharptoon and Jackassson are creations of the media. They have never been voted into any political position, even in minority majority Congressional districts or cities. The are constantly pt forward as "black leaders" and all other blacks are ignored. Blacks are constantly being blamed for those two, and its the white, liberal, MSM which has made them what they are today.