I like this guy, Alan Hays.

A Florida state senator plans to introduce a bill that would make Dinesh D'Souza's docudrama, America, required viewing for most teenagers in the state, The Hollywood Reporter learned on Friday.

Republican Alan Hays said he'll introduce in November his one-page bill that simply states that students in the 1,700 Florida public high schools and middle schools are to be shown the film unless their parents object.

"The most dreaded disease in America today is political correctness. We need to inform our students of our whole history, and teach them how to think, not what to think," Hays said. "Let them talk with their teachers, their peers and their parents, then draw their own conclusions. But they need both sides, and this movie shows a side they just aren't seeing."

Hays said his intent is to reach out to charitable groups that would supply schools with the necessary copies of the movie so as not to burden Florida taxpayers.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lawmaker-push-bill-requiring-dinesh-721053

hah....good luck wit dat.

Of course the bastards who keep showing Gore's piece of crap in the schools........will label this as every possible evil conspiracy known to man.

And with the help of the ACLU, DOJ, NAACP, et al......it will never see the light of day.

Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2014, 02:10:01 PM
I like this guy, Alan Hays.

A Florida state senator plans to introduce a bill that would make Dinesh D'Souza's docudrama, America, required viewing for most teenagers in the state, The Hollywood Reporter learned on Friday.

Republican Alan Hays said he'll introduce in November his one-page bill that simply states that students in the 1,700 Florida public high schools and middle schools are to be shown the film unless their parents object.

"The most dreaded disease in America today is political correctness. We need to inform our students of our whole history, and teach them how to think, not what to think," Hays said. "Let them talk with their teachers, their peers and their parents, then draw their own conclusions. But they need both sides, and this movie shows a side they just aren't seeing."

Hays said his intent is to reach out to charitable groups that would supply schools with the necessary copies of the movie so as not to burden Florida taxpayers.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lawmaker-push-bill-requiring-dinesh-721053

I'm not overly impressed by this. I don't care if it is for our against our side, political propaganda doesn't belong in schools (Yeah, I know Gore POS is played there all the time, but what are ya gonna do?).

Actually, I think they should have lobbied for it to have an "X" rating - then kids would actually want to see it and would do anything they could get into it! 

-Darth

Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2014, 02:10:01 PM
I like this guy, Alan Hays.

A Florida state senator plans to introduce a bill that would make Dinesh D'Souza's docudrama, America, required viewing for most teenagers in the state, The Hollywood Reporter learned on Friday.

Republican Alan Hays said he'll introduce in November his one-page bill that simply states that students in the 1,700 Florida public high schools and middle schools are to be shown the film unless their parents object.

"The most dreaded disease in America today is political correctness. We need to inform our students of our whole history, and teach them how to think, not what to think," Hays said. "Let them talk with their teachers, their peers and their parents, then draw their own conclusions. But they need both sides, and this movie shows a side they just aren't seeing."

Hays said his intent is to reach out to charitable groups that would supply schools with the necessary copies of the movie so as not to burden Florida taxpayers.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lawmaker-push-bill-requiring-dinesh-721053

Wrong-headed, and certainly not conservative. We're not the ones who try to dictate what kids see in school.

While I may like the movie and the ideas in it, I'm not ready to lay down a law that says "thou shalt watch this." That exact attitude gave us the union public school teacher corps we have now.

Quote from: TboneAgain on July 25, 2014, 06:10:37 PM
Wrong-headed, and certainly not conservative. We're not the ones who try to dictate what kids see in school.

While I may like the movie and the ideas in it, I'm not ready to lay down a law that says "thou shalt watch this." That exact attitude gave us the union public school teacher corps we have now.

Both you and Darth are flat out wrong about the movie, it's not propaganda, it's freakin History, unbiased history!

Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2014, 07:03:14 PM
Both you and Darth are flat out wrong about the movie, it's not propaganda, it's freakin History, unbiased history!

Perhaps "propaganda" was too strong a word, but I think you get the point T-bone and I are making.

It's the other side that dictates what will and won't be taught in our schools, not us. If we adopt the tactics of the Marxists, do we not become as Evil as the Marxists?

I'd actually prefer to see the movie banned in public schools - nothing helps a movie's popularity like being declared to be "forbidden fruit".

-Darth

WHY would anybody object?

I haven't seen the movie but the question I ask nof those who did:

IS IT EDUCATIONAL?  IS IT FACTUAL?....If so then it isn;t propaganda and SHOULD be shown.

Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 07:54:12 PM
Perhaps "propaganda" was too strong a word, but I think you get the point T-bone and I are making.

It's the other side that dictates what will and won't be taught in our schools, not us. If we adopt the tactics of the Marxists, do we not become as Evil as the Marxists?

I'd actually prefer to see the movie banned in public schools - nothing helps a movie's popularity like being declared to be "forbidden fruit".

-Darth

I don't know your age, but the movie consists of what we all used to learn in school 50 years ago.
So to call it anything other than history, feeds into the leftists agenda of a one sided opinion of hiistory.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 25, 2014, 07:58:24 PM
WHY would anybody object?

I haven't seen the movie but the question I ask nof those who did:

IS IT EDUCATIONAL?  IS IT FACTUAL?....If so then it isn;t propaganda and SHOULD be shown.

Exactly Billy!
I have yet to see it, but from what I have read, historians confirm it's one of the best historical documentaries ever put to film.
I'm not enough of a historian to pass judgement anyway.

This will open Pandora's storage locker.

Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 07:54:12 PM
Perhaps "propaganda" was too strong a word, but I think you get the point T-bone and I are making.

It's the other side that dictates what will and won't be taught in our schools, not us. If we adopt the tactics of the Marxists, do we not become as Evil as the Marxists?

I'd actually prefer to see the movie banned in public schools - nothing helps a movie's popularity like being declared to be "forbidden fruit".

-Darth

Now there's a solution, let the kids always stand up and tell the parents what they want to do.  Parents, don't dont teach your children any respect, they might actually grow up to be ......what?   

Run the movie in school and make it required.  Give them 1/2 their yearly grade on the results they watched.  The movie DOES leave the viewers space to form their own opinions based on the question asked in the title, "America, Where Would We Be Without Her"?   

Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 04:27:05 PM
I'm not overly impressed by this. I don't care if it is for our against our side, political propaganda doesn't belong in schools (Yeah, I know Gore POS is played there all the time, but what are ya gonna do?).

Actually, I think they should have lobbied for it to have an "X" rating - then kids would actually want to see it and would do anything they could get into it! 

-Darth

Or....we could just show both movies to students, throw in a few Michael Moore flicks, a few Charleton Heston / Clint Eastwood flicks....and have a legitimate, reasonable panel discussion (with students involved) about the accuracy and messages of all of them.

It's people like you who got us in the hole that we're in.

Just mumble "oh well, they're showing the Gore flick 5 times this week, but I don't want to make waves and say anything about it, or bring up the D'Souza flick.  Better just be quiet and gentlemanly about it all".

We gotta stop that shit, and your outlook is of absolutely no help.

I am truly surprised to find on a conservative site, that so many have bought into the Leftist meme that any presentation is political propaganda for one side or the other. You do realize you are mouthing the Left's: "everything is politics" crap.

 
See you've had your coffee this morning!    I'm headed that way myself.

That idea of Hays was announced by the media and I don't see that it was even ever proposed by Hays.

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/sections/bills/bills.aspx

Secondly, the liberal viewpoint on the film "America" is that it is not based on fact but rather conservative opinion and earlier in  2014, D'Souza was indicted on charges of making illegal political contributions to a 2012 United States Senate campaign.  He plead guilty in the U.S. District Court to a charge of using "straw donors" to make illegal political campaign donations. D'Souza avoided prison time and was sentenced to eight months in a community confinement center, five years parole, and a $30,000 fine. D'Souza also was an adviser to Ronald Reagan.   Even if the bill was proposed I don't see it happening. Our students are growing up in the liberal educational system and their agenda is to produce future liberal voters.