Be Carson's CPAC speech sound pretty good to me...

Started by wally, February 27, 2015, 07:47:22 AM

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wally

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kit saginaw

Carson was good and concise, from the small portions I've seen.  And Fiorina was surprisingly witty and hard-hitting.  Cruz and Walker seemed somewhat off their game.   And I saw a snippet of Christie being interviewed by Ingraham, who I thought was considering running herself.  -He wasn't awe-inspiring.  It might be too early to assess what's been said, plus I'm usually an internet-driveby on weekdays.   

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Quote from: kit saginaw on February 27, 2015, 08:20:53 AM
Carson was good and concise, from the small portions I've seen.  And Fiorina was surprisingly witty and hard-hitting.  Cruz and Walker seemed somewhat off their game.   And I saw a snippet of Christie being interviewed by Ingraham, who I thought was considering running herself.  -He wasn't awe-inspiring.  It might be too early to assess what's been said, plus I'm usually an internet-driveby on weekdays.

I see Carson as a good spokesperson for the GOP. Maybe a good candidate for some post like HHS, but I see him as PR value more than anything.
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Quote from: Solar on February 27, 2015, 09:47:02 AM
Carson? No experience whatsoever.

I'm not pushing for Carson.  I actually am leaning in favor of Scott Walker, right now. BUT, I think you are not really considering what a depth of experience this man has compared to so many of the others. True, he's not exprienced in the art of con games and lies and manipulation that goes with the turf of professional politicians.  Most TEA folks have seen those 'qualifications' as the things that are running this country right off a cliff!

Have you read his biography"Gifted Hands"? ( Or perhaps you may have seen the movie, with Denzel Washington, playing Dr. Benjamin Carson. )  This book and movie about this extrordianry man were out many years ago and portray an accomplished Leader, long before he had any sort of political aspirations.  He was the foremost piediatric neurosurgeon in the worlld!  He came from a single parent  welfare home where he grew up with his mother and brother.  His mother never finsihed scholl and "Benny" became a doctor and his brother became an engineer.  Both joined ROTC in school and made it to the rank of Colonel.   Dr. Cason, I believe, turned down a chance for West point, in favor of Medical school and a career as a doctor, rather tha his second choice of a career in the military.

Ronald Reagan did not have much political background, when this "Actor" decided to run for Governor. 

Again, I'm not throwing my support "all in" for Ben Carson or anyone right now, but Dr. cason is a remarkable human being and a real asset for our party!
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jungle x

Yeah, I saw some of that on tv and I don't think Carson has a chance but he's quite impressive. A little too low-key for my tastes but so far the one there that seems the most "presidential" in tone and substance is Walker IMO but there's still almost two years left of the petty teen currently squatting in the WH.

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Quote from: jungle x on February 27, 2015, 01:31:43 PM
Yeah, I saw some of that on tv and I don't think Carson has a chance but he's quite impressive. A little too low-key for my tastes but so far the one there that seems the most "presidential" in tone and substance is Walker IMO but there's still almost two years left of the petty teen currently squatting in the WH.

The fact that the dem/MSM combine is picking everything Walker says apart is telling. They are scared to death of him. Notice there is little negativity from dem/MSM about Bush. They are setting up another McCain/Romney treatment. Love him until he is nominated.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on February 27, 2015, 02:13:01 PM
Notice there is little negativity from dem/MSM about Bush. They are setting up another McCain/Romney treatment. Love him until he is nominated.

Jeb's name was booed pretty enthusiastically early.  Though Hannity, who'll be airing his Jeb-interview tonight, said that the booing tailed-off during the Q&A.  I think the audience was just being polite... and not being 'won over', like Hannity was implying they were. 

Jeb will 'win over' the CPAC/TEA crowd when he withdraws from the race.

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Quote from: Solar on February 28, 2015, 06:13:22 AM
Does this have rino written all over it, or not? :glare:



No question. Like Romney, he is a good man, but we need a fighter and good conservative.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on February 28, 2015, 07:01:57 AM
No question. Like Romney, he is a good man, but we need a fighter and good conservative.
Yep, I'm not looking for a nice guy, I want a damned leader for a change, one that won't cave on his Coonservative principles.
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I agree
I don't think the Dems have anyone with his intelligence.
Maybe Sharpton? hehehe!!!!

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Quote from: Solar on February 28, 2015, 06:13:22 AM
Does this have rino written all over it, or not? :glare:



This doesn't say much...more of a bumper sticker slogan.  The issue is "What Safety net?  Where do you draw the line?  There are truely disabled and indigent elderly people.  I think you'd be hard pressed to find many consrvatives that felt there is no role of goverment keeping people from starving or freezing to death.  The few you might find, represent the sterotype the left use to tell everyone how heartless and selfish COnservatives are.  No Conservative would disagree with elimination of the generational dependancy of naredowell freeloaders and politicians passing out new 'etitilements' for vots.  Everything  from free Obamaphones to unemployment "insurance" benefits for two friggin years are expanding the nanny state into a communist style state;  free bread (confiscated from others) for support of the revolution, Comrade!  But, let's not allow them to get us so pissed off that we become the stereotypes they try to portray conservatives as being.
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Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

~Ronald Reagan

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Quote from: wally on February 28, 2015, 08:51:08 AM
This doesn't say much...more of a bumper sticker slogan.  The issue is "What Safety net?  Where do you draw the line?  There are truely disabled and indigent elderly people.  I think you'd be hard pressed to find many consrvatives that felt there is no role of goverment keeping people from starving or freezing to death.  The few you might find, represent the sterotype the left use to tell everyone how heartless and selfish COnservatives are.  No Conservative would disagree with elimination of the generational dependancy of naredowell freeloaders and politicians passing out new 'etitilements' for vots.  Everything  from free Obamaphones to unemployment "insurance" benefits for two friggin years are expanding the nanny state into a communist style state;  free bread (confiscated from others) for support of the revolution, Comrade!  But, let's not allow them to get us so pissed off that we become the stereotypes they try to portray conservatives as being.
Two words Wally. States Rights.
Ninety five % of Federal safety net BS needs to be abolished and what deserves salvaging, should be left to the states to deal with.
Food stamps? Abolished! The nation did just fine before them, and would indisputably prosper without them.
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     Yes, sounds good, but I would be looking at track record, not promises. As an example for Americans and especially young Americans, the Doctor is without equal, at this time.  Yet, look at what has to be done to truly end dependency:
     By now, only the blind mis-read the no-go zones in America (that is to say, nearly every major city east of the Missouri River, as something other than distribution nodes for narcotics, vice, and, increasingly, terror and narco terror.  The "no-go" applies to law enforcement and straight white Americans, male or female. That is the cold reality of it. What is being protected inside those barriers is anti social behavior beyond our comprehension, hopelessness, misery, but I still hope, a lot of joy.
     The thing that really opened it up to the awareness of ordinary citizens was the formation of Sharia no-go zones in European cities, notably Stockholm, London, Paris, and Amsterdam. As a matter of fact, we are now receiving reports of human trafficking and sex trade nodes in American cities.
      Now then, if that is not alarmist enough, let's consider the place of "dependency" in this criminal scenario. Dependency, however intentioned, enables real people to survive, children to achieve some semblance of humanity, and a lot of other things that assuage the conscience of a society which also has in mind a safe distance from all this action. I mean welfare, food stamps,  the myriad of public assistance initiatives, including government jobs. On that note, we must also touch on the Democratic political Machine and the go-along GOP.  These are the Clintons, with views of it all from the penthouses of Harlem and Washington, D.C.

      In summary, Doctor Carson and others making this claim to end dependency, while it makes a nice campaign poster, the substance  is not real.  Many GOP will see the Carson candidacy as a chance to demonstrate to the world that we are not racist. Problem is, everyone already knows that. That is a convenient political charge, akin to harping on the reputation of Democrats for sexual deviance. It's yesterday's news, and. as Reagan pointed out, beside the point. Actually, irrelevant.