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Title: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: Solar on April 30, 2017, 12:53:27 PM
WTF?
I have no idea what's happening at Heritage, but it doesn't smell Right.

Asked by Chris Wallace whether Heritage would be Bannon's "safety net as he's forced out of the White House," Needham demurred on "Fox News Sunday." "I can tell you," Needham replied, "there's a lot of speculation in the room and in the media that never misses a chance to divide and attack conservatives."

With that non-answer, speculation over the fate of Heritage Foundation will no doubt reach a new fever pitch. News of DeMint's ouster has already sent shockwaves throughout the think tank and reverberations through right wing circles in Washington, D.C.

During the entire putsch, Heritage employees have been left in the dark. Many didn't learn that DeMint was being pushed out until Politico published the story Friday afternoon. And as DeMint loyalists clean out their desks and after one board member, Todd Herrick, resigned in protest, Heritage has still issued no official statement.

Less than 24 hours before Needham arrived at Fox News' D.C. studios, Heritage vice president of personnel, Wes Dyck, sent a staff-wide email warning employees not to talk to the press.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/will-steve-bannon-take-over-heritage-after-jim-demint-leaves-mike-needham-wont-say/article/2621712
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: Hoofer on April 30, 2017, 01:51:37 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 30, 2017, 12:53:27 PM
WTF?

Actually I said, "What the Hell!?!?!?" when I read the headline.  Serious damage to the "Heritage brand" - they can't be that foolish.

Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: Solar on April 30, 2017, 03:11:20 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 30, 2017, 01:51:37 PM
Actually I said, "What the Hell!?!?!?" when I read the headline.  Serious damage to the "Heritage brand" - they can't be that foolish.
Exactly!
Even if he's not a serious contender, Heritage needs to be out in front of this whole debacle, it's ridiculous that they didn't address this head on and stop any rumor before it starts.
Ya know, simple stuff like, "We're meeting to select from a short list of highly qualified Conservative candidates." How hard is that?
But no, this screams of total disarray and a huge lack of leadership within the organization. A House cleaning is in order, get rid of the squishies!!!
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: Hoofer on April 30, 2017, 04:56:30 PM
Is this guy trying to appeal to drunks and homeless men?

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farttimes.co.za%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2Fstephen-bannon.jpg&hash=13ceb0c2fbe4d418d36c6590d9b2789c42c65821)

Another fashion statement, the shave-with-a-hair-clipper-look
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jta.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F08%2FGettyImages-577916392.jpg&hash=62b733044a04f25908896257000e194a018a4994)

Sure.... the homeless dude look
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.famousbirthsdeaths.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2Fsteve-bannon-bio-net-worth-facts.jpg&hash=800be529c53c88559bac89a89dad998b07218811)

Get a haircut, put on a suit and tie, find someone that'll teach you how to carry yourself like a gentleman - we wouldn't have a slob like that at a picnic, he looks disgusting!
Title: Update!!!
Post by: Solar on May 01, 2017, 12:28:04 PM
Just like I said, the org is in total disarray and it has everything to do with RINO. Comments mine...

1. The report states that Heritage is in "massive turmoil." That is not a good sign for the premiere conservative think-tank on the Right.

2. Heritage board members were irked that DeMint "made the think tank too bombastic and political."

Too political? Isn't that what they're all about, pushing the Conservative agenda? Guess not, now they want to support the Marxist Establishment GOP.
Do so Heritage, and you're dead to Conservatives!!!

Another board member said, "Jim brought everyone in from the Senate to Heritage and made it hyper-political. Heritage is also about civil society and culture. He's taken that off of the table."
Bull Shit you little squishy!

The report points out that DeMint inserted Heritage into various policy battles thus far in the Trump administration by scathingly attacking Congress for backing a bill that didn't repeal Obamacare. Heritage also attacked the border-adjustment tax proposal made by Paul Ryan.

3. The beginning of the end for DeMint was when the Republican Study Committee severed its alliance with Heritage.

But Demint is too political? What a load of shit, I'm done with Heritage!!!

http://www.dailywire.com/news/15856/jim-demint-will-be-ousted-heritage-foundation-here-aaron-bandler#
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: Hoofer on May 02, 2017, 03:09:36 PM
They bring in a squishy friend here, and the guy brings in a RINO, the RINO brings in a liberal radical feminist - the organization runs so far off track, the founders wouldn't recognize it.

Just look at Liberty University in Lynchburg.  It's nothing like what it was 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: je_freedom on May 02, 2017, 07:25:01 PM
Here are the culprits:

http://www.heritage.org/article/board-trustees

It would take some work to dig into the background of each one.
It might help to list them in order of appointment to the board.

The Board of Trustees is "the man behind the curtain" of most organizations.
They're the ones operating the controls,
while the CEO is "the wizard" that's shown to the public.

Everyone needs to know that most of the major corporations have HQs in NYC,
and that most of them have interlocking boards of directors.
They make decisions not for the good of the company of which they are a director,
they make decisions for the good of the collective group of people
who are on the boards of all the corporations!


This interlocking network also includes the boards of directors of the "mainstream" media.
So the TV networks, etc. are simply mouthpieces for this ruling clique.
The on air personalities, the editorial directors, etc.
are just hired propagandists for this ruling clique.
They also control the "entertainment" industry - movies and TV shows -
thereby flooding people's minds with the culture and values that
THEY want us to have!

This ruling clique also funnel billions of dollars to
"not for profit" foundations and universities
that write "scholarly" papers that rationalize the scams
this ruling clique inflicts on the rest of us.

And they also provide billions of dollars to the DC lobbyists,
who actually write the legislation that Congress passes into law!

So somebody needs to look into the connections between
Heritage Foundation's board and the rest of the ruling clique.
That's how they seize most of their power!
And the seizure is never seen before, during, or after power is seized!
It's all done out of sight of the rest of us!

Tracing it all out would be the ultimate act of investigative journalism!
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: je_freedom on May 02, 2017, 08:04:22 PM
Okay, here they are in order of appointment to the Board:

Ryan Haggerty, Heritage Trustee Since 2017           Investment Manager, Estate of Bert Fields, Jr.
   
Michael W. Gleba, Heritage Trustee from 2016;       Chairman/CEO, Treasurer and Trustee, Sarah Scaife Foundation

Virginia Heckman, Heritage Trustee Since 2016       Manager, Noble Properties Inc.

Mark A. Kolokotrones, Heritage Trustee Since 2015  Founder and President, Castle Knoll Investments LLC

William L. Walton, Heritage Trustee Since 2015        Founder and Chairman, Rappahannock Ventures LLC

Rebekah A. Mercer, Heritage Trustee Since 2014      Owner, Ruby et Violette

Anthony J. Saliba, Heritage Trustee Since 2012        Executive Managing Director, ConvergEx Group  Chicago, Ill.

Meg Allen, Heritage Trustee Since 2009                   Director, DRAMLA, S.A., Geneva, Switzerland

Abby Spencer Moffat, Heritage Trustee Since 2009   Chief Executive Officer, Diana Davis Spencer Foundation

Robert Pennington , Heritage Trustee Since 2009   

Todd W. Herrick, Heritage Trustee Since 2007          Retired chairman, president and CEO of Tecumseh Products Co.

Nersi Nazari, Ph.D., Heritage Trustee since 2006      Chairman & CEO, Vital Connect, Inc.

Kay Coles James, Heritage Trustee Since 2005

Chairman
Thomas A. Saunders III, Heritage Trustee Since 2005

Brian Tracy, Heritage Trustee since 2003,                 Founder, Brian Tracy International, San Diego, California

Larry P. Arnn, Ph.D. , Heritage Trustee Since 2002    President, Hillsdale College, Hillsdale, Michigan

Steve Forbes, Heritage Trustee Since 2001               President and Chief Executive Officer, Forbes Inc.

Vice Chairman
Barb Van Andel-Gaby, Heritage Trustee Since 1996   Director, Alticor

Jerry Hume, Heritage Trustee Since 1993                 Chairman of the Board, Basic American Inc., San Francisco, California

The Hon. J. William Middendorf II, Heritage Trustee Since 1989  Chairman, Middendorf and Company, Washington, D.C.

Edwin J. Feulner, Heritage Trustee Since 1973           Founder, The Heritage Foundation, Washington, D.C.

More info on each one is available at:  http://www.heritage.org/article/board-trustees
And many of them have substantial amounts of info about them on various websites.
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: Solar on May 02, 2017, 08:07:49 PM
Quote from: je_freedom on May 02, 2017, 08:04:22 PM
Okay, here they are in order of appointment to the Board:

Ryan Haggerty, Heritage Trustee Since 2017           Investment Manager, Estate of Bert Fields, Jr.
   
Michael W. Gleba, Heritage Trustee from 2016;       Chairman/CEO, Treasurer and Trustee, Sarah Scaife Foundation

Virginia Heckman, Heritage Trustee Since 2016       Manager, Noble Properties Inc.

Mark A. Kolokotrones, Heritage Trustee Since 2015  Founder and President, Castle Knoll Investments LLC

William L. Walton, Heritage Trustee Since 2015        Founder and Chairman, Rappahannock Ventures LLC

Rebekah A. Mercer, Heritage Trustee Since 2014      Owner, Ruby et Violette

Anthony J. Saliba, Heritage Trustee Since 2012        Executive Managing Director, ConvergEx Group  Chicago, Ill.

Meg Allen, Heritage Trustee Since 2009                   Director, DRAMLA, S.A., Geneva, Switzerland

Abby Spencer Moffat, Heritage Trustee Since 2009   Chief Executive Officer, Diana Davis Spencer Foundation

Robert Pennington , Heritage Trustee Since 2009   

Todd W. Herrick, Heritage Trustee Since 2007          Retired chairman, president and CEO of Tecumseh Products Co.

Nersi Nazari, Ph.D., Heritage Trustee since 2006      Chairman & CEO, Vital Connect, Inc.

Kay Coles James, Heritage Trustee Since 2005

Chairman
Thomas A. Saunders III, Heritage Trustee Since 2005

Brian Tracy, Heritage Trustee since 2003,                 Founder, Brian Tracy International, San Diego, California

Larry P. Arnn, Ph.D. , Heritage Trustee Since 2002    President, Hillsdale College, Hillsdale, Michigan

Steve Forbes, Heritage Trustee Since 2001               President and Chief Executive Officer, Forbes Inc.

Vice Chairman
Barb Van Andel-Gaby, Heritage Trustee Since 1996   Director, Alticor

Jerry Hume, Heritage Trustee Since 1993                 Chairman of the Board, Basic American Inc., San Francisco, California

The Hon. J. William Middendorf II, Heritage Trustee Since 1989  Chairman, Middendorf and Company, Washington, D.C.

Edwin J. Feulner, Heritage Trustee Since 1973           Founder, The Heritage Foundation, Washington, D.C.

More info on each one is available at:  http://www.heritage.org/article/board-trustees
And many of them have substantial amounts of info about them on various websites.
Follow the money!
Went through the list quickly and noted the change is recent with an influx of Millennial corporate connections.
Yep, Heritage has an infestation problem.
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2017, 10:38:16 AM
Heritage is no longer Conservative, and this should explain it all and just how out of touch they are.

"When DeMint went in, Heritage became very political. It changed from a highly respected think tank to just a partisan tool and more ideological — more of a tea party organization than a think tank," said Mickey Edwards, one of the organization's founding trustees and a former Republican congressman from Oklahoma.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/02/why-jim-demint-was-ousted-from-heritage-237876
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: Hoofer on May 03, 2017, 01:58:16 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2017, 10:38:16 AM
Heritage is no longer Conservative, and this should explain it all and just how out of touch they are.

"When DeMint went in, Heritage became very political. It changed from a highly respected think tank to just a partisan tool and more ideological — more of a tea party organization than a think tank," said Mickey Edwards, one of the organization's founding trustees and a former Republican congressman from Oklahoma.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/02/why-jim-demint-was-ousted-from-heritage-237876

I read that quote awhile back, or something very close to it - and wondered if the idea was to "raise awareness in the public realm" - attempt to bring in more $...?   

Unknown RICH people on these foundations get weary of non-recognition and want to be 'more appreciated for their tireless work and donated time'.   Then they finally GET RECOGNITION, and either loathe the person who turned the spotlight their way, or pretend not to care (liking it entirely, if it's good).   

Sort of like teenage girls going to Prom.   (spent all that money and time to look pretty, and nobody notices but the horny, filthy creeps!)
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: quiller on May 03, 2017, 02:03:42 PM
Hmmm, voices from decades past. Todd Herrick was no surprise. He sold his grandfather's Tecumseh Products just to be rich and self-important. The legacy of distaste remains heavy in the town he screwed over by that sale.
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2017, 02:54:05 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 03, 2017, 01:58:16 PM
I read that quote awhile back, or something very close to it - and wondered if the idea was to "raise awareness in the public realm" - attempt to bring in more $...?   

Unknown RICH people on these foundations get weary of non-recognition and want to be 'more appreciated for their tireless work and donated time'.   Then they finally GET RECOGNITION, and either loathe the person who turned the spotlight their way, or pretend not to care (liking it entirely, if it's good).   

Sort of like teenage girls going to Prom.   (spent all that money and time to look pretty, and nobody notices but the horny, filthy creeps!)
I thought it exposed just how much of a bubble these DC morons dwell in. They believe leftist media when they say we're nothing but a bunch of hicks, clingers of bibles and guns that want to bring back slavery.
Only true Conservatives know what it means to be TEA and only real working people know what it means to be a real Conservative.
Heritage is packed full of a bunch of phonies, just like the RNC.
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: taxed on May 03, 2017, 11:32:16 PM
They just need to stick to research and making pretty charts.
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: Hoofer on May 04, 2017, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: quiller on May 03, 2017, 02:03:42 PM
Hmmm, voices from decades past. Todd Herrick was no surprise. He sold his grandfather's Tecumseh Products just to be rich and self-important. The legacy of distaste remains heavy in the town he screwed over by that sale.

Wow!   Wasn't that 1970s or early 1980s?  There was quite an upheaval in the small engine business, if I remember right.
The only new technology was the breakerless ignition in the mid 1980's, they were stagnant in innovation.
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: quiller on May 04, 2017, 08:20:19 PM
Here's the statement from the chairman of the Heritage board of trustees on DeMint's departure. Ed Fuelner taking over (again) to provide interim leadership while the replacement-search continues.

QuoteHeritage is a permanent policy research institution fighting for conservative ideas, as Ed Feulner often reminds us. We remain committed, as ever, to the principles that have made America great: free enterprise; limited government; individual freedom; traditional American values; and a strong national defense. This will continue under the leadership of Ed and his successor.

Feulner led Heritage for more than three decades and returns to our organization after serving on President Trump's transition team. There is no one better to guide the ship while we seek our new leader and continue to push for conservative ideas and policies in Washington and around the nation.

http://www.heritage.org/article/statement-the-chairman-heritages-board-trustees
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: Solar on May 05, 2017, 06:14:14 AM
Quote from: quiller on May 04, 2017, 08:20:19 PM
Here's the statement from the chairman of the Heritage board of trustees on DeMint's departure. Ed Fuelner taking over (again) to provide interim leadership while the replacement-search continues.

http://www.heritage.org/article/statement-the-chairman-heritages-board-trustees
Yeah, I read that bull shit and thought back, during the last 3 decades how they held the GOP'e feet to the fire.
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: quiller on May 06, 2017, 03:47:40 AM
Now comes the defense for DeMint from Conservative Review executive editor Gaston Mooney (a former DeMint aide).

QuoteDeMint's zeal and influence was what originally attracted donors and board members of the Heritage Foundation — and his success in the conservative movement translated well.

By gaining the support of the right movers and shakers in Congress, and a strong dose of sweat equity, he increased the think tank's success during his years as president, from 2013 to today. Before his leadership in 2012, the conservative think tank was rated No. 18 in UPenn's "Global Go To Think Tanks Index Report." In 2016, Heritage jumped to No. 12 in the same report.

In fact, under DeMint's leadership, Heritage is well positioned to conservatively influence the Trump administration, while retaining its independence and principles.

Removing DeMint will weaken Heritage as an institution and will be to the detriment of the conservative movement and our nation. It calls into question the overall judgment and prudence of the Heritage Foundation board.

Perhaps this is the swing back against DeMint's one-two punch from the ladder climbers who make up Washington's insider class. The symbolism in his ousting is clear: Even after the election of an anti-establishment presidential candidate, much work remains in changing Washington's status quo.

Jim DeMint's role in shaping the conservative movement and restoring our nation isn't done; his time at Heritage will be defined by the new life he gave the movement in Washington and across the country. He succeeded in changing the battlefield of ideas by actively turning principled conservatism into action and results.

But again we're reminded: The siren calls of power and cocktail parties of the swamp are often too loud for some to resist.

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/how-jim-demint-inspired-a-comeback-for-conservatism

Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2017, 06:28:28 AM
Quote from: quiller on May 06, 2017, 03:47:40 AM
Now comes the defense for DeMint from Conservative Review executive editor Gaston Mooney (a former DeMint aide).

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/how-jim-demint-inspired-a-comeback-for-conservatism
Which is actually impressive on a global scale, right behind the Cato Institute. :cool:
Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: quiller on May 09, 2017, 04:19:04 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 06, 2017, 06:28:28 AM
Which is actually impressive on a global scale, right behind the Cato Institute. :cool:

A few days have passed, and then this surfaced, a disturbing look at what wasn't being said about the Heritage people. Their claim to being less political than under DeMint turns out to not be true: he was after all a former U.S. Senator they hired expressly because he WAS. Paragraph breaks added below, for clarity.

QuoteResearch at Heritage has always had a partisan dimension. The think tank did criticize George W. Bush when he pushed for a prescription drug add-on to Medicare. It fired a foreign-policy scholar, however, when he dared to come out against the Republican president's wars.

Feulner's proudest achievement, and the thing about which Heritage boasts the most, is the role its Mandate for Leadership played in influencing the Reagan administration's agenda. It's meant to justify the think tank's existence — to show that policy ideas have consequences. But the Reagan era ended nearly three decades ago.

Heritage continues to publish Mandate for Leadership updates, yet how much responsibility does it want to claim for George W. Bush's agenda? Or for whatever Donald Trump's will be in a few years' time?

That's a question DeMint's successor won't be able to answer, because the truth is that neither Heritage nor the wider conservative movement is ever going to recapture its youth. The Reagan years were full of hope because conservative ideas were fresh — they hadn't been tried by Jimmy Carter or Lyndon Johnson, but they also hadn't really been tried by Richard Nixon or Gerald Ford.

Reagan was a beginning, and Heritage helped write the first chapter in conservatism's policy book. But like many aspiring authors, the conservative movement's leaders lost the plot after the first few pages. Since the 1980s, conservative groups have been adept at raising funds for themselves. They have not been adept at advancing conservatism beyond Reagan. It's as if the conservative movement went straight from adolescence to senility. 

http://theweek.com/articles/696006/what-jim-demints-ouster-says-about-conservative-movements-identity-crisis

Title: Re: Bannon take over Heritage after Jim DeMint leaves?
Post by: je_freedom on May 09, 2017, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: quiller on May 09, 2017, 04:19:04 AM
The Reagan years were full of hope because conservative ideas were fresh — they hadn't been tried by Jimmy Carter or Lyndon Johnson, but they also hadn't really been tried by Richard Nixon or Gerald Ford.

Conservatism had hardly been tried at all since Harry Truman.
Full-on conservatism hadn't been tried since Calvin Coolidge.