yeah right, you idiots still allow how many states to give a drivers license to an illegal alien and you are worried about who has a cell phone in a car?  ::)


Billy

HA HA HA ONE day a couple months ago I witnessed a rear ender
we were at a red light and it turned green I was like 5 cars back in the slow lane. only 1 car in the hammer lane. the light turns green and I start to go and I notice the guy in the other lane still sitting there texting on his cell phone all of a sudden bam he gets rear ended by a guy talking on his cell phone so I stop to make sure they were all right and these 2 guys are ready to get busy their blaming the other when One ask me if I seen what happened?. I said ya he was texting and you were talking on your cell phone Sounds like a tie to me your best bet would be to go about your business because if I have to be a witness I guarantee your both gonna be getting a ticket DUMB ASSES. I got back in my truck and left

Quote from: zip on November 17, 2010, 04:06:07 AM
    Arpad the arguement you need your cellphone to report emergencies doesnt wash...until a few years ago that wasnt even happening...reporting emergencies pales compared to the deaths and costs of cell phone usage in cars...we all pay more insurance because of it...
Anyone thats not for making cell phone use in cars illegal should not be for being under the influence of alchohol illegal either....if you want people to drive and use cell phones than let them drive drunk its less of a threat than the cell phones

I sense a pet peeve driving this particular argument but if you want to use the "billions of children will die" argument maybe we ought roll back all those "shall issue" CCW laws that were enacted over the past several years. You know, there are people driving around with loaded handguns within reach!  :o Talk about the potential for catastrophe! I'll bet those gun nuts are getting into bloody shootouts at every four-way stop!

Ok, enough with the hyperbole.

I just don't see the need for this sort of law. We already have laws on the books about reckless driving and if someone can't drive and talk on a cell phone, and an injury results, then you've got a reckless driver. I could even support law that makes the use of a cell phone that results in injury and aggravating circumstance with increased penalties. But outlawing the use of cell phones while driving, in my humble opinion, crosses the line between punishing infringements on the rights of others and making humanity more perfect by correcting the wayward. The former is the proper use of the law, the latter is not.

Quote from: BILLY-bONNEY on November 17, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
yeah right, you idiots still allow how many states to give a drivers license to an illegal alien and you are worried about who has a cell phone in a car?  ::)
Billy

Who are you calling "idiots", Billy?  Yes, liberals are idiots, but I don't know of any liberals involved in this conversation.

I accused Indy of "sounding" like a liberal, and Solar accused me of "sounding" like a liberal.  But everybody knows that Indy and I are NOT liberals.

This whole debate is a tough one.  I don't want the government telling me what I can and can't do either, but there are some things that must be regulated and restricted, simply because there are MILLIONS of people out there who are IDIOTS, and what they do can have grave consequences for those of us who AREN'T idiots.

Hmmm...."Im all for banning ALL cell phone usage in cars"  Zip, what about the passenger rights. When I get in my truck alone I shut my cell off as it has a missed call system and a voice mail.  If my wife is with me she get the cell.     

Just talked to my oldest friend in Sandiego last night, snd he tod me he was trying to look at Google maps while stopped at a light, and a cop wrote him a ticket.
Apparently in Ca you can't even touch a cell phone while driving.

A $20 ticket turned into a $150. after court fees and penalty assessments.

The computer in my car refuses to let me drive without my lights on, in the day. This just cost me $200+ to replace a sealed single headlamp, but even worse I learned that even though my state does NOT require daytime-lights-on driving, the car company WANTS it and I cannot get it changed by tinkering in the computer code.

In short, a foreign company gets away with telling me how I have to drive. That's EVER-so-convenient for polite drivers trying to minimize the glare for anyone ahead of them in a drive-thru lane..

The government decided that you can't just sit in your car, now you have to be strapped in, and with most newer cars you're also forced to pay extra for "safety" features you will pay HUGE amounts of money to get re-set (like airbags) when the majority of deployments were from passenger mistakes and not crashes.

So when it comes to GPS tracking in cars, consider it mandatory. It will be phased in until every car has the computer chips you can't change, doing things they won't tell you. And if they want your cell phone silenced, it's as easy as turning on your car. On means phone off.

Quote from: Indy on November 17, 2010, 02:20:23 PM
So the guy trapped in his overturned car on some lonely back road calls help how? :(

  Umm indy it will be only against the law while DRIVING...not pulled over or turned over

Quote from: arpad on November 17, 2010, 05:54:54 PM
I sense a pet peeve driving this particular argument but if you want to use the "billions of children will die" argument maybe we ought roll back all those "shall issue" CCW laws that were enacted over the past several years. You know, there are people driving around with loaded handguns within reach!  :o Talk about the potential for catastrophe! I'll bet those gun nuts are getting into bloody shootouts at every four-way stop!

Ok, enough with the hyperbole.

I just don't see the need for this sort of law. We already have laws on the books about reckless driving and if someone can't drive and talk on a cell phone, and an injury results, then you've got a reckless driver. I could even support law that makes the use of a cell phone that results in injury and aggravating circumstance with increased penalties. But outlawing the use of cell phones while driving, in my humble opinion, crosses the line between punishing infringements on the rights of others and making humanity more perfect by correcting the wayward. The former is the proper use of the law, the latter is not.

   You make alot of assumptions arpad.....what you sense is a cop that saw lots of mangled people and has two son in laws one a police sgt one a state trooper that tell me cell phones got to go...they are killers...

    Ill take the word of a working cops that view the TRUTH first hand over people that just dont wanna give up making phone calls while the drive...which is Fin totally unnecessary...

Quote from: Solar on November 19, 2010, 07:38:04 AM
Just talked to my oldest friend in Sandiego last night, snd he tod me he was trying to look at Google maps while stopped at a light, and a cop wrote him a ticket.
Apparently in Ca you can't even touch a cell phone while driving.

A $20 ticket turned into a $150. after court fees and penalty assessments.

Whatever happens in "Planet California" STAYS in Planet California.   ;) ;D

Quote from: AmericanFlyer on November 20, 2010, 06:22:37 AM
Whatever happens in "Planet California" STAYS in Planet California.   ;) ;D

I really wish that were the case.
But Sanfranfreako is a breeding ground for freaks.