Autopsy Shows Michael Brown Was Struck at Least 6 Times
By FRANCES ROBLES and JULIE BOSMAN
nytimes.com
AUG. 17, 2014

QuoteFERGUSON, Mo. — Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was killed by a police officer, sparking protests around the nation, was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy performed on Sunday found.

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown's skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family's request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.

Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.

The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Mr. Brown's clothing, to which Dr. Baden did not have access.

Some key facts from this NYT article:

* This Medical Examiner is not local, but flew in from NYC and did the autopsy at the Brown family's request;

* Brown was struck by 6 bullets, 4 in the arm, 2 in the head, none from behind;

* There have been reports (based on chatter by an eyewitness chatting in the background of a news video) of Brown attempting to flee, stopping when so instructed by the officer, then trying to bumrush the officer by surprise, and then being shot; the 6 bullet strikes are potentially consistent with Brown having tried to rush the police officer ----> 4 to the arm when Brown was moving and difficult to hit, 1 to the face, causing him to fall, and the last, to the top of his head, when Brown was falling (my speculation, except regarding the hit to the top of the head having been the last bullet);

* While the NYC ME could not comment on powder burns or residue on Brown's clothing, this is not relevant to the two hits to Brown's head; powder burns/residue from those shots, if any, would have been on Brown's face and the top of his head; there were none, therefore those 2 hits, including the one that was fatal, were not at close range.

The claim that Brown was shot in the back is disproved. The claim that Brown was shot while having his arms raised is proven highly doubtful (police only aim at arms and hands in movies and TV shows). The claim that Brown was shot at close range while lying on the pavement is disproven.

So once again, the MSM have been deceived by race-hucksters and victimologists, and by their own bias and haste. I was very prepared, despite the huckster-like actions of Brown's family and rioting, to believe that this shooting was unjustified, and possibly even murder. With this autopsy, by the Brown family's chosen ME, all the spectacular claims of the family, the Jackson-Sharpton types, and their MSM poll parrots have almost completely unraveled. At this point, IMO, it would take a hostile, highly biased, jury to convict this officer of anything.

Of course he could have shot him in the arm because he's a piss poor shot. You people alway believe the police because right now they're just shooting blacks. It's only when the show in white neighborhoods shooting whites - and they will - will it dawn on you that public workers with guns are not to be trusted. Right now they're avoiding the Ruby Ridges and the Wacos, but the potential is always there.

Quote from: mdgiles on August 18, 2014, 05:44:12 AM
Of course he could have shot him in the arm because he's a piss poor shot. You people alway believe the police because right now they're just shooting blacks. It's only when the show in white neighborhoods shooting whites - and they will - will it dawn on you that public workers with guns are not to be trusted. Right now they're avoiding the Ruby Ridges and the Wacos, but the potential is always there.

I hope this was satiric.

My next door neighbor (of 20+ years) is a former cop. He hasn't shot anyone hereabouts (or anywhere, that I know of). Ditto for a neighbor 2 doors down in another direction, except that he is still serving.

Quote from: mdgiles on August 18, 2014, 05:44:12 AM
Of course he could have shot him in the arm because he's a piss poor shot. You people alway believe the police because right now they're just shooting blacks. It's only when the show in white neighborhoods shooting whites - and they will - will it dawn on you that public workers with guns are not to be trusted. Right now they're avoiding the Ruby Ridges and the Wacos, but the potential is always there.

Roughly twenty years ago, a friend of my father, a white police chief of a neighboring town, chased a white car thief to literally outside my parents' house, where the perp got out waving a gun and with one shot (not wildly made) the cop managed to put that white asshole down without further harm.

You bet I know the potential is there. It freaking well drove right up to our door.

Just don't expect much sympathy because it was a white cop and a black victim. Black cops shooting white kids don't get that sort of publicity and you know it. The race of either the cop or the victim should not matter. It's what led up to the officer deciding to pull that trigger --- that's the ONLY thing that matters, not the pigment.

Quote from: SVPete on August 18, 2014, 06:03:43 AM
I hope this was satiric.

My next door neighbor (of 20+ years) is a former cop. He hasn't shot anyone hereabouts (or anywhere, that I know of). Ditto for a neighbor 2 doors down in another direction, except that he is still serving.

The 10% Giles, crazy Sharpton devotee, is currently speaking.

Hopefully he'll be replaced by the rational Giles as soon as gets some Ritalin, or orange juice, or whatever he needs, in him.

And Erich Folder has authorized a third-autopsy.   

" We've gotta prove that the bullets ricochet'd off something ahead of Brown as he ran, so that they entered from the front because he was being shot from behind.  Don't make me look like a fool, people. "

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_POLICE_SHOOTING_MISSOURI?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-08-17-18-17-22

Quote from: kit saginaw on August 18, 2014, 08:45:33 AM
And Erich Folder has authorized a third-autopsy.   

" We've gotta prove that the bullets ricochet'd off something ahead of Brown as he ran, so that they entered from the front because he was being shot from behind.  Don't make me look like a fool, people. "

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_POLICE_SHOOTING_MISSOURI?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-08-17-18-17-22

Also....
Holder Orders DOJ to Do Further Autopsy on Michael Brown
more @
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/holder-orders-doj-do-further-autopsy-michael-brown-n182626

Quote from: mdgiles on August 18, 2014, 05:44:12 AM
Of course he could have shot him in the arm because he's a piss poor shot. You people alway believe the police because right now they're just shooting blacks. It's only when the show in white neighborhoods shooting whites - and they will - will it dawn on you that public workers with guns are not to be trusted. Right now they're avoiding the Ruby Ridges and the Wacos, but the potential is always there.

"You people"? 

I glad you're the level headed one WAITING for the facts to come out because this ROBBER might be a VICTIM of evil white cops who shoot black yutes for sport.

I do not believe this police officer was out to shoot anyone.  I do not believe he committed murder.  It makes no sense.  He was doing his job, and it was not murder.  All police shootings are investigated, as they should be.

How about when there is no charge against this officer?  Another excuse to riot?   

DaisyJane

Quote from: mdgiles on August 18, 2014, 05:44:12 AM
Of course he could have shot him in the arm because he's a piss poor shot. You people alway believe the police because right now they're just shooting blacks. It's only when the show in white neighborhoods shooting whites - and they will - will it dawn on you that public workers with guns are not to be trusted. Right now they're avoiding the Ruby Ridges and the Wacos, but the potential is always there.

Who, exactly, is 'you people?' Please supply references that support your contention that police officers are 'just shooting blacks,' whether 'right now' or at any other time.

Quote from: TboneAgain on August 18, 2014, 12:19:27 PM
Who, exactly, is 'you people?' Please supply references that support your contention that police officers are 'just shooting blacks,' whether 'right now' or at any other time.

"You People" is code for you idiot not accepting the racist excuse/component to justify blacks burning down and looting their own neighborhoods.
"We be trashing our own kind, cause our race baitin masters told us to".

Damn I hate idiots that can't see past their own biased hatred.

A very good question!


Ferguson Protester: "Why Didn't They Shoot Those Looters?"

Quote from: walkstall on August 18, 2014, 12:37:33 PM
A very good question!


Ferguson Protester: "Why Didn't They Shoot Those Looters?"

Answer: The orders came from much higher up. They got a distraction for the Marxist, and by God, we'll milk it as long as possible.

    The autopsy clearly indicates Michael brown was moving towards the bullets at a fairly considerable pace with his head lowered.  Note the mention of scrape marks down the front side of the face caused by scraping on the asphalt as the victim fell (almost certainly due to the gunshots to the head).  This clearly indicates when the victim fell to the ground he was moving in the direction of the bullets head down.  The bullets entered from the top and the scrape marks were on the front side.  His momentum being sufficient to cause the victim to slide as he hit the asphalt.  This is only possible if the victim was moving forward with his head down as he fell to the ground.
    It is possible the one shot which grazed the right arm and then entered the right side of the victims chest caused the victim to collapse to the ground, but much more likely caused by the shots to the head for 3 reasons: 1) According to witness statements the youth pushed the officer into the patrol car and began to struggle for the officers gun.  At least 1 shot was fired from within the patrol car.  This was likely the shot which entered the side of the victim.  None of the 3 superficial shots remained in the victim.  If these shots were fired from within the car they would have struck the patrol car.  The only shot which fits this profile (non-fatal and remained in the victim) is the shot to the side.  The shot which grazed the arm and entered the right side of his chest was likely an early shot.  2) for the side shot to have caused the fall on the face the victim would have to have been moving towards the officer with his right side forward then twist face forward and collapse unprotected with momentum after the shot.  Neither this shot nor any of the 3 superficial shots would likely cause complete collapse and a twist without the ability to block the fall.  3) this is a very awkward manner to approach the shooter with speed.
    The most likely scenario is the victim strong-armed the officer into the patrol car and began struggling for the gun.  The officer controlled the gun and fired at least once from within the car striking the victim on the right side.  The victim then retreated and was ordered to stop.  The victim charged the officer possibly extending his arms towards the officer as he approached and was fired upon several times.  1 of these shots hit him near the eye top to bottom and another (the fatal shot) hit him in the brain (top to bottom).  He then collapsed face forward, sliding without blocking his fall (no scraps on the hands).

The store video is not in dispute.  The victims friend has confirmed the persons in the store video were none other than himself and Michael Brown.  The store video is completely relevant here as it goes to state of mind of the victim.  We were led to believe the victim was a fine upstanding gentle giant of a citizen about to go off to college.  This was anything but true as the store video indicates.  The victim was a low-life thief with little character, no respect for the law or consideration of others, who had a propensity for violence.  Plain and simple.  And it fits precisely with the forensic evidence and witness statements.  It is understandable the family would like to portray him otherwise, but let's get real here.  He was a two-bit, violent, low-life punk who thought he was entitled to do whatever he wanted, with zero respect for the law and a violent tendency.  The families failure to teach him otherwise resulted in the inevitable.
    Furthermore, regardless of whether the officer knew of the incident, the VICTIM certainly knew what he had just done and was likely reluctant to be apprehended.  Even his friend has admitted he strong-armed the officer pushing him into the patrol car (apparently trying to obtain the officers weapon).  According to his best friends statements the officer fired at least one shot from within the car.  He then CLAIMS after the victim retreated the officer shot him in the back and then in the head with his arms raised in surrender.  None of the forensic evidence supports these later claims.