So they live among us, are we next in line?


snip~
An apparent plot to publicly behead a random civilian on the streets of Sydney in support of ISIS sparked counter-terrorism raids backed by nearly 1,000 Australian police, officials said Thursday. Australian Federal Police said 15 people were arrested in relation to "serious terrorism-related offenses" in a massive pre-dawn operation. Prime Minister Tony Abbott told reporters that the raids came after intelligence showed an Australian occupying a "quite senior" rank within ISIS was making "direct exhortations" for supporters back home to kill.  When asked about reports that those detained had been planning to publicly behead a random individual, "that's the intelligence we received," Abbott said. "This is not just suspicion, this is intent, and that's why the police and security agencies decided to act."

more @
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/australia-raids-foil-alleged-beheading-plot-support-isis-n205986

Quote from: walkstall on September 18, 2014, 10:37:35 AM
So they live among us, are we next in line?


snip~
An apparent plot to publicly behead a random civilian on the streets of Sydney in support of ISIS sparked counter-terrorism raids backed by nearly 1,000 Australian police, officials said Thursday. Australian Federal Police said 15 people were arrested in relation to "serious terrorism-related offenses" in a massive pre-dawn operation. Prime Minister Tony Abbott told reporters that the raids came after intelligence showed an Australian occupying a "quite senior" rank within ISIS was making "direct exhortations" for supporters back home to kill.  When asked about reports that those detained had been planning to publicly behead a random individual, "that's the intelligence we received," Abbott said. "This is not just suspicion, this is intent, and that's why the police and security agencies decided to act."

more @
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/australia-raids-foil-alleged-beheading-plot-support-isis-n205986

Unfortunately, I believe we will see something happen in the US in the near future. These heathens have resources and numbers, not to mention motivation. Australia has very strict immigration laws and we do not with an open border. I really don't believe the Obama administration is serious about the issue.

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 18, 2014, 10:57:34 AM


Unfortunately, I believe we will see something happen in the US in the near future. These heathens have resources and numbers, not to mention motivation. Australia has very strict immigration laws and we do not with an open border. I really don't believe the Obama administration is serious about the issue.

From my perspective young man, he is helping them any way he can.

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 18, 2014, 10:57:34 AM


Unfortunately, I believe we will see something happen in the US in the near future. These heathens have resources and numbers, not to mention motivation. Australia has very strict immigration laws and we do not with an open border. I really don't believe the Obama administration is serious about the issue.

In order for him to be serious about an issue, he would need to believe its a threat.  He's still under the impression that ISIS groups are not related to islam, nor are they anything but a JV team.

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 18, 2014, 10:57:34 AM


Unfortunately, I believe we will see something happen in the US in the near future. These heathens have resources and numbers, not to mention motivation. Australia has very strict immigration laws and we do not with an open border. I really don't believe the Obama administration is serious about the issue.

Absolutely! But will it be reported? Nope!

Obama IS the issue where ISIS is concerned in the U.S. He knows they are here and I believe he knows when and where they are going to attack. It is too coincidental that he withdrew troops too early over in the Middle East despite all the warnings.  ISIS has been forming and has been creeping into other countries including our waiting to attack.  Very recently Obama allowed vast numbers of illegal kids into this country...then the focus on ISIS surfaced.   He just sent 3,000 troops to combat Ebola when a medical team would have been more appropriate.  3,000 troops that won't be available to protect our homeland.  ISIS is in the shadows and I predict will attack right around November 4, 2014 just in time for the elections!  Not only will the November elections not take place, he will seize that opportunity to declare marshal law.

Yes, I obviously hope I am just being paranoid and am very wrong.

Quote from: suzziY on September 18, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Obama IS the issue where ISIS is concerned in the U.S. He knows they are here and I believe he knows when and where they are going to attack. It is too coincidental that he withdrew troops too early over in the Middle East despite all the warnings.  ISIS has been forming and has been creeping into other countries including our waiting to attack.  Very recently Obama allowed vast numbers of illegal kids into this country...then the focus on ISIS surfaced.   He just sent 3,000 troops to combat Ebola when a medical team would have been more appropriate.  3,000 troops that won't be available to protect our homeland.  ISIS is in the shadows and I predict will attack right around November 4, 2014 just in time for the elections!  Not only will the November elections not take place, he will seize that opportunity to declare marshal law.

Yes, I obviously hope I am just being paranoid and am very wrong.

I think you have correctly identified what he wants to do, but I don't think it will happen. He is too unpopular right now and even dems would not totally go along with him. Also, it is becoming clear we still have heroes who are our military leaders. The bottom line is he is too unpopular to pull it off.

Quote from: suzziY on September 18, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Obama IS the issue where ISIS is concerned in the U.S. He knows they are here and I believe he knows when and where they are going to attack. It is too coincidental that he withdrew troops too early over in the Middle East despite all the warnings.  ISIS has been forming and has been creeping into other countries including our waiting to attack.  Very recently Obama allowed vast numbers of illegal kids into this country...then the focus on ISIS surfaced.   He just sent 3,000 troops to combat Ebola when a medical team would have been more appropriate.  3,000 troops that won't be available to protect our homeland.  ISIS is in the shadows and I predict will attack right around November 4, 2014 just in time for the elections!  Not only will the November elections not take place, he will seize that opportunity to declare marshal law.

Yes, I obviously hope I am just being paranoid and am very wrong.

We are in deep trouble if "3,000 troops" keep us from kicking ass.  That's why we have the national guard in every state and in most cities within the states.  Also the United States has 90 guns for every 100 citizens.   Making it the most heavily armed society in the world.  And that young lady just pisses off b o and the dem's.   

One funny thing I heard, maybe just another urban myth, is that Obama began referring to them as ISIL.......before their own change from ISIS to ISIL.

The difference being that the second IS previously stood for Iraq / Syria, and the newer IL stands for Iraq / Levant, with Levant being a term for the whole ME region.

Thus, the name change refers to a widely expanded goal, and area of conquest.

If it could be established that Obama embraced their bigger, better goals before they did, or even as soon as they did.....pretty damning for the Manchurian Candidate.

Makes you wonder about all those earlier discussions about the motto on his ring, his "I'll stand with the muslims" and "most beautiful sound",  NASA mission change,  and so on.

Evidence is piling up....to a mountain.  How can the MSM & academia continue to hide it  ?

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 18, 2014, 12:46:49 PM
I think you have correctly identified what he wants to do, but I don't think it will happen. He is too unpopular right now and even dems would not totally go along with him. Also, it is becoming clear we still have heroes who are our military leaders. The bottom line is he is too unpopular to pull it off.

You do have to worry about Obama and his inner circle deciding that they need to go for broke, because they're oh so close, and the "take down America" plan may suffer a big setback in the elections.

They could very well decide that they just can't leave it to the next wave of radicals, who may be incapable of getting it done, or too far away in the future.

They also all have an uncanny ability to decide that they're just so much smarter, better, more important, undeniable and unstoppable....than everybody else in the world.....that they won't be able to believe that they can be stopped.  A la Hitler, Kim, Che, etc.

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 18, 2014, 10:57:34 AM


Unfortunately, I believe we will see something happen in the US in the near future. These heathens have resources and numbers, not to mention motivation. Australia has very strict immigration laws and we do not with an open border. I really don't believe the Obama administration is serious about the issue.

Where issues of our security are concerned THE OBAMA has shown he doesn't give a damn time and time again.

Not only where Isis is the issue.

What we see in The Obama is tacit, explicit, refusal to act against jihadists who have now, as if beheading and then posting the video online weren't declaration enough, in their latest "new" video openly declared war upon the United States.

His refusal to act is in effect support. Thus yet again THE OBAMA also shows himself to be a traitor and ALSO wholly unfit to hold the office of President of the United States, guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.

And everyone in Washington D.C. knows it too.

EVERYONE knows this man is a criminal, but because of party politics, the Constitution is ignored, trampled upon and shredded.

And instead Boner's filing lawsuits, (not the prescribed Constitutional method of dealing with a rogue President such as this one) and Harry Reid is refusing to let any action move forward in the Senate.

At this point, now that we have had war declared upon us. I say impeach both of them too, as being complicit with THE OBAMA'S treason.

While our Congress may not have declared war, the fact, the reality is, this nation is now at war.

While both are the absolute worst crimes a person can commit, yes even worse tha murder in my book because well that's a long story for another thread. Treason in war time, is not the same thing as treason in peace time. Treason when this nation is at war, is way worse, even though they both carry the same penalty under law, and our Constitution.

Quote from: daidalos on September 18, 2014, 01:16:20 PM
Where issues of our security are concerned THE OBAMA has shown he doesn't give a damn time and time again.

Not only where Isis is the issue.

What we see in The Obama is tacit, explicit, refusal to act against jihadists who have now, as if beheading and then posting the video online weren't declaration enough, in their latest "new" video openly declared war upon the United States.

His refusal to act is in effect support. Thus yet again THE OBAMA also shows himself to be a traitor and ALSO wholly unfit to hold the office of President of the United States, guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.

And everyone in Washington D.C. knows it too.

EVERYONE knows this man is a criminal, but because of party politics, the Constitution is ignored, trampled upon and shredded.

And instead Boner's filing lawsuits, (not the prescribed Constitutional method of dealing with a rogue President such as this one) and Harry Reid is refusing to let any action move forward in the Senate.

At this point, now that we have had war declared upon us. I say impeach both of them too, as being complicit with THE OBAMA'S treason.

While our Congress may not have declared war, the fact, the reality is, this nation is now at war.

While both are the absolute worst crimes a person can commit, yes even worse tha murder in my book because well that's a long story for another thread. Treason in war time, is not the same thing as treason in peace time. Treason when this nation is at war, is way worse, even though they both carry the same penalty under law, and our Constitution.

I am not a constitutional expert so I do not now if this is possible or not. However, I believe the House should develop and approve a declaration of war against ISIS/ISIL since they have declared themselves a state. Then move it along to the Senate BEFORE the mid terms. Dare Harry Reid to table it. I believe it would pass even with a democrat majority. Then put Obama on the spot of signing a declaration of war so the US could unleash our forces against what I consider the most dangerous enemy we have had since WWII. I make this statement because we have already had our homeland attacked, the first since Pearl Harbor, and this crowd has pledged to do it again.

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 18, 2014, 01:31:23 PM
I am not a constitutional expert so I do not now if this is possible or not. However, I believe the House should develop and approve a declaration of war against ISIS/ISIL since they have declared themselves a state. Then move it along to the Senate BEFORE the mid terms. Dare Harry Reid to table it. I believe it would pass even with a democrat majority. Then put Obama on the spot of signing a declaration of war so the US could unleash our forces against what I consider the most dangerous enemy we have had since WWII. I make this statement because we have already had our homeland attacked, the first since Pearl Harbor, and this crowd has pledged to do it again.

I guess we need another attack in America, just to put Obama in a corner that he can't wiggle out of.  Without that, he will continue to play his game of pretending to act, while quietly supporting radical islam under the table.

All of this talk about stopping this, makes me wonder WTH happened with the JFK fiasco.  Who made the final decision to stop him (right or wrong), and how was it all arrived at  ?  Obviously, that's not the answer.  But somebody somewhere had the ability to decide, and do, what happened.  Makes you wonder just how much TPTB will allow for actual treason and defection by a sitting president, to go on and on and on.  It's getting pretty damned obvious now.

Quote from: walkstall on September 18, 2014, 10:37:35 AM
So they live among us, are we next in line?

Not beheading attacks. You notice they've done/or planned this in countries - the UK, Australia - where the public is disarmed. In America, they have the Second Amendment, and in places where they try to restrict it, all sorts of armed criminals. It would be a shame (yeah, right) to have some sword wielding IslamoNut, screaming "Allahu Akbar", have the opportunity to get up close and personal with some aimed rounds from about thirty concerned citizens 

Quote from: mdgiles on September 18, 2014, 02:59:23 PM
Not beheading attacks. You notice they've done/or planned this in countries - the UK, Australia - where the public is disarmed. In America, they have the Second Amendment, and in places where they try to restrict it, all sorts of armed criminals. It would be a shame (yeah, right) to have some sword wielding IslamoNut, screaming "Allahu Akbar", have the opportunity to get up close and personal with some aimed rounds from about thirty concerned citizens

Yeah, I already heard folks talking today about the sad relationship between this and the Aussie gun ban.  Maybe some of these things will actually end up being too damned hard to miss, even for the most blind and stupid, and socialist.

Funny thing, when people start having to worry about their own (and their family's) deaths in the streets......they sometimes start to abandon foolish liberal platitudes.

The various sicknesses floating into the country from Mexico and Africa should have the same effect on anybody who's remotely awake.