I'm actually interested in opinions from everyone on my original post.


don't worry it wont turn you into a vampire to make ANY opinion on a thread posted by a <gasp> LIBERAL!!!!


What do you really THINK about the statement? 

Quote from: Steve,SPHR on July 22, 2016, 05:44:25 PM
I'm actually interested in opinions from everyone on my original post.


don't worry it wont turn you into a vampire to make ANY opinion on a thread posted by a <gasp> LIBERAL!!!!


What do you really THINK about the statement?

steve
I see it as a loaded question based on the individual behavior...some get exactly what they deserve and then others get what they dont deserve...the details of the two are far and wide but I think you know where I'm going

Quote from: blades on July 22, 2016, 06:05:50 PM
steve
I see it as a loaded question based on the individual behavior...some get exactly what they deserve and then others get what they dont deserve...the details of the two are far and wide but I think you know where I'm going

blades good point.  I do get it.


but what is your response to those who do fall under the radar?  it simply is not that simple to cut people out.


thanks for your input I do appreciate it it helps me see your view.

thanks again.

I will say I am on the East Coast many of you are on the West Coast and I find myself waiting for responses.

My God People WAKE UP!!!

(just kidding)

I have heard this saying from companies looking to hire new employees...

from companies on the West Coast that they like East Coast employee's because are not laid back...we MOVE.  go.go.go.


is this true??

Quote from: quiller on July 22, 2016, 05:41:24 PM
Interesting logic that you instantly presumed the group would not offer training, a chain of command, or that such a group would automatically be without accountability.

It's that last part that suggests you aren't aware there are responsible gun owners, or responsible citizens. Not all of us are leftist mobs roaming around vigilante-style, instigating mayhem.

As for the need for an armed militia, why would you say there is no need? Are you saying we should not protect ourselves against a Clinton or a Trump government?

Who would they be accountable to? Who decides what is "acceptable" training or what the chain of command will consist of? Presuming all is just going to work out is an assumption and we all know what they say about assumptions.

I am well aware there are responsible gun owners in fact I'd wish to become an gun owner some day myself but being a responsible gun owner doesn't automatically mean they'd make a good militiamen.  That is again an assumption.

And I did say at present didn't I? Either or is president yet.

Quote from: Steve,SPHR on July 22, 2016, 06:26:45 PM
I will say I am on the East Coast many of you are on the West Coast and I find myself waiting for responses.

My God People WAKE UP!!!

(just kidding)

not me...I am in whats called the anus of america...good ole kansas city Mo.

back to your question...its a hard one cause the ones under the radar is vague ...if you mean the ones that dont vote cause they like me see the two parties for what they are...complete fascist...I have since I was about 14..now 51... referred to them as watching a tennis match...
lets face it when you look at it against their sworn oath to protect and defend the Constitution they have a 100% failure record..
so those that see it like I do do not deserve it..
while I do vote.. up until obama have never voted D or R...just went 3rd or wrote in my own name..but sucked it up out of fear and voted R both times...will never do that again...this time I might write in cruz or go 3rd just to give them a higher percentage for next time..wont know until november what I will do

hope that helps

but those that dont even know what a votre is...well they get what they deserve

Quote from: Gunbunny42 on July 22, 2016, 05:31:46 PM
One because there is no need for an armed militia at present time. And two assembling a bunch of people with weapons whom have no discipline, no chain of command, no accountability to anyone but themselves doesn't spark fated that all will be well.

I disagree, There is definitely a need for an armed militia in certain area's of the country, particularly the border area, there have been "armed militia's"  that were well organized by ex military, ex law enforcement and ex Sheriff's the Federal Govt fears these entities and does everything it can to stop them.

Who do you think Obamao would appoint to an "armed civilain security force"? and what do you think would be their goals.

I would trust them/Him as far as I could throw 'em.

I would on the other had trust a local militia whose members I know and who credentials to serve on such entity, I am aware of.

Quote from: Steve,SPHR on July 22, 2016, 03:04:15 PM

As I described on the other thread I have.


Yet when President Obama called for a civilian volunteer corps he was labeled a dictator.


so which is it?

What has Obamao demonstrated?

Lawlessness, a disregard for the Constitution, anti Law Enforcement, anti Law and Order.

You don't let someone like that form his own Civilian Security force....Hitler, Sadam Hussein and Suharto, from Obamao's old Stomping grounds did that....look at the results.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 22, 2016, 06:41:14 PM

I disagree, There is definitely a need for an armed militia in certain area's of the country, particularly the border area, there have been "armed militia's"  that were well organized by ex military, ex law enforcement and ex Sheriff's the Federal Govt fears these entities and does everything it can to stop them.

Who do you think Obamao would appoint to an "armed civilain security force"? and what do you think would be their goals.

I would trust them/Him as far as I could throw 'em.

I would on the other had trust a local militia whose members I know and who credentials to serve on such entity, I am aware of.

the feds are the reason for the militia not the ones that should be forming one...and what Obama means is not what I would call it...I think historically thats called a brown shirt  brigade...

Quote from: blades on July 22, 2016, 07:11:23 PM
.and what Obama means is not what I would call it...I think historically thats called a brown shirt  brigade...

That's exactly right.

Quote from: Steve,SPHR on July 22, 2016, 05:44:25 PM
I'm actually interested in opinions from everyone on my original post.


don't worry it wont turn you into a vampire to make ANY opinion on a thread posted by a <gasp> LIBERAL!!!!


What do you really THINK about the statement?

The bigger question is, why are you in need of controlling human nature?
People succeed, people fail, and it's human nature to get up and try again. Stop trying to remove the hurdles in life that make people stronger!

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 22, 2016, 06:41:14 PM

I disagree, There is definitely a need for an armed militia in certain area's of the country, particularly the border area, there have been "armed militia's"  that were well organized by ex military, ex law enforcement and ex Sheriff's the Federal Govt fears these entities and does everything it can to stop them.

Who do you think Obamao would appoint to an "armed civilain security force"? and what do you think would be their goals.

I would trust them/Him as far as I could throw 'em.

I would on the other had trust a local militia whose members I know and who credentials to serve on such entity, I am aware of.

The borders need more attention no doubt but I'm not sure unorganized milita is the way to go about it. Out of curiosity what other areas of the country you think need a milita?

I don't trust the current occupant but I don't think we need a milita as present, reguardless of whos in the white house.

Quote from: Gunbunny42 on July 22, 2016, 06:39:11 PM
Who would they be accountable to? Who decides what is "acceptable" training or what the chain of command will consist of? Presuming all is just going to work out is an assumption and we all know what they say about assumptions.

I am well aware there are responsible gun owners in fact I'd wish to become an gun owner some day myself but being a responsible gun owner doesn't automatically mean they'd make a good militiamen.  That is again an assumption.

And I did say at present didn't I? Either or is president yet.

This keeps getting better the more you admit to, Not-a-gun-owner-but-you-MIGHT-someday.....

Become a responsible gun owner. THEN tell us what we can and cannot do in armed and polite America.

Quote from: Gunbunny42 on July 22, 2016, 08:23:36 PM

The borders need more attention no doubt but I'm not sure unorganized milita is the way to go about it. Out of curiosity what other areas of the country you think need a milita?

I don't trust the current occupant but I don't think we need a milita as present, reguardless of whos in the white house.

Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Washington DC....

Gee. All those Democrat cities with the black-on-black violence that the leftist media ignores....