It's hard for me to believe that even leftist Democrats (pardon the redundancy) are stupid enough to think that this latest impeachment effort involving the Ukrainian president will result in anything other than yet another embarrassment for their side.  Up until now, even Nancy Pelosi was shrewd enough to stave off this insanity.  So now, all of a sudden, on the slimmest of possible chances, they're going "all in" on this silly conversation with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy?  I don't buy it.  As deranged and self-deluded as they are, it's hard for me to believe that they can't figure out that this doesn't have a chance.  So what's going on?  I think that they're done with Biden.

The Democrats know good and well that if they bring all of this out into the open, it's going to expose the corruption and malfeasance on the part of Joe Biden as it pertains to his son, Hunter.  That's going to cast enough of a question mark onto him that it will no doubt finish his political career, thus paving the way for Elizabeth Warren.  They want a woman in the Oval Office, and right now, Joe Biden is standing in the way.  What a convenient way to get rid of him--simply tap into the TDS of all the other Democrats and make them ready to go after this last-ditch effort to have President Trump impeached--and the side-effect will be publicly humiliating Biden.  Perhaps I'm attributing too much intellectual prowess to these people--but then again, Democrats have been known to be wise to do evil.  What do the rest of you think?

Well you have a point there young man. If Joe Biden pulls out of this presidential race and all of a sudden this Ukraine thing goes the way of the Dodo bird than you hit the nail on the head and the democrats hit their mark.

Now please correct me if I'm wrong...my understanding is Creepy Joe Biden is the only democrat that has a chance in beating President Trump. If that is correct than this Ukraine shot at Trump missed and hit Joe Biden causing bigtime damage to his campaign.

Either way you slice this impeachment cake Joe Biden is the one the democrats hit and they hit him right between the eyes.

Pretty much agree. I think the reason they chose now to go through with this?
They held off so it could be drug out through the elections. They've been sitting on this for awhile now and only now decided to blame Trump for the very things they're guilty of.
Biden was a lost cause they could throw under the bus. Warren on the other hand is losing support of their Wall Street cronies, so she may be a liability, Pete Buttplug has yet to really start campaigning.
This is smart, wait for the field to shrink then steal the stage, though he has yet to actually divulge his Marxist platform, and by then, it'll be too late.

Bernie is about as lovable as roadkill skunk and Kamalla? Well, that's a recurring train wreck full of toxic waste. In the end I think it will be Buttplug and he'll lose in a landslide.

Quote from: Solar on September 26, 2019, 02:01:17 PM
Pretty much agree. I think the reason they chose now to go through with this?
They held off so it could be drug out through the elections. They've been sitting on this for awhile now and only now decided to blame Trump for the very things they're guilty of.
Biden was a lost cause they could throw under the bus. Warren on the other hand is losing support of their Wall Street cronies, so she may be a liability, Pete Buttplug has yet to really start campaigning.
This is smart, wait for the field to shrink then steal the stage, though he has yet to actually divulge his Marxist platform, and by then, it'll be too late.

Bernie is about as lovable as roadkill skunk and Kamalla? Well, that's a recurring train wreck full of toxic waste. In the end I think it will be Buttplug and he'll lose in a landslide.

I have a different take, on this.
Have you ever wondered exactly WHY the Dems hate Trump?  When he was just a Celebrity, he was zero threat.  When he was just a "Clown" running for President, he was no threat.  Then, He won.
And they lost their minds.  They have shown TDS in terminal fashion.  They have embarrassed themselves and America, Worldwide.  They abused the FISA courts, and hurt their own credibility. They have done NOTHING for the American People since he got elected.  They have lied, and Cheated.  Now, Bidet faces Criminal Charges, and they continue to shoot each other in the feets. 
Is it because they hate Republicans and Trump is one?  No.
Is it because he took their power away, and they are angry?  Some truth, but....No.
Is it because he is a lying mysoginistic, racist, buffoon? Uh....No.

It is because they KNOW they have been selling America down the pipes, and doing dishonest, and unethical dealings and that Trump is not "on board" the way Hillary was?  Everyone KNEW Hitlery was going win, right?  Pardons for all the Deep State, should the fecal matter hit the Air Handler.  But then, No Cankles.. "Ruh Roh, Rorge."(in Astro's voice).
Nope, they know, if he is reelected, they are all toast.  If we give him a new Senate majority and the House back, the Dems are Pig Slop and we are all fartin' in Silk.

Just my 2 cents.  Sorry it seems like a week's pay.

Quote from: tiny1 on September 26, 2019, 02:41:32 PM
I have a different take, on this.
Have you ever wondered exactly WHY the Dems hate Trump?  When he was just a Celebrity, he was zero threat.  When he was just a "Clown" running for President, he was no threat.  Then, He won.
And they lost their minds.  They have shown TDS in terminal fashion.  They have embarrassed themselves and America, Worldwide.  They abused the FISA courts, and hurt their own credibility. They have done NOTHING for the American People since he got elected.  They have lied, and Cheated.  Now, Bidet faces Criminal Charges, and they continue to shoot each other in the feets. 
Is it because they hate Republicans and Trump is one?  No.
Is it because he took their power away, and they are angry?  Some truth, but....No.
Is it because he is a lying mysoginistic, racist, buffoon? Uh....No.

It is because they KNOW they have been selling America down the pipes, and doing dishonest, and unethical dealings and that Trump is not "on board" the way Hillary was?  Everyone KNEW Hitlery was going win, right?  Pardons for all the Deep State, should the fecal matter hit the Air Handler.  But then, No Cankles.. "Ruh Roh, Rorge."(in Astro's voice).
Nope, they know, if he is reelected, they are all toast.  If we give him a new Senate majority and the House back, the Dems are Pig Slop and we are all fartin' in Silk.

Just my 2 cents.  Sorry it seems like a week's pay.

No doubt about it. That's why Hitlary stated, "If Trump Wins, We'll All Hang". They knew he had the dirt on them from decades past and he had a proven track record of doing the right thing.
Trump's election was no accident, he has the backing of actual Patriots, and I believe they've been working with him for years leading up to and after his election. We, the Nation, are in good hands with Trump and his people at the helm.

Quote from: Solar on September 26, 2019, 02:01:17 PM
Pretty much agree. I think the reason they chose now to go through with this?
They held off so it could be drug out through the elections. They've been sitting on this for awhile now and only now decided to blame Trump for the very things they're guilty of.
Biden was a lost cause they could throw under the bus. Warren on the other hand is losing support of their Wall Street cronies, so she may be a liability, Pete Buttplug has yet to really start campaigning.
This is smart, wait for the field to shrink then steal the stage, though he has yet to actually divulge his Marxist platform, and by then, it'll be too late.

Bernie is about as lovable as roadkill skunk and Kamalla? Well, that's a recurring train wreck full of toxic waste. In the end I think it will be Buttplug and he'll lose in a landslide.

Just some rambling thoughts in no particular order. The dims are desperate, no news flash there. When hillary lost, did the dims see that their dream of a socialist party capable of winning go down the drain? If so, if their party is broke, it would be easier to break the republican party (Trump) than to give up their socialist dream. Could they be thinking if American people were so disgusted with Trump, might they vote socialist? They have no message other than free and orangeman bad. With biden going down the ol crap shoot, warren needs all the help she can get, but all the help she can get will not make her look any better, harris can only get her way by you doing you know what, and there is just too many people out there for that......... Right? so destroy Trump. Problem there, from now on, Trump will need to hold rallies in a football stadium that holds 100,000 +. Campaign donations will be greater that what the dim party has brought in over the past several elections.  If Trump was afraid of the American people sitting on their collective ass and get complacent when it came time to vote, the dims just fixed that problem. Part of Trump's message has always been to tell how crazy the dims could be, now they have shown everyone. Would someone looking to build their party make the speech shit made, cuse me that should have been schiff made , of course not, but someone looking to or thinking they could destroy the other party would. The dim party is full of people who are being made fun of, deservedly so, but your not going to win elections with that front and center. Biden can't suck them down that ol crap shoot, the crazies do have a loyal base, trouble is that will all the dims have left. They just made a bad judgement call. 

Quote from: s3779m on September 26, 2019, 03:04:54 PM
Just some rambling thoughts in no particular order. The dims are desperate, no news flash there. When hillary lost, did the dims see that their dream of a socialist party capable of winning go down the drain? If so, if their party is broke, it would be easier to break the republican party (Trump) than to give up their socialist dream. Could they be thinking if American people were so disgusted with Trump, might they vote socialist? They have no message other than free and orangeman bad. With biden going down the ol crap shoot, warren needs all the help she can get, but all the help she can get will not make her look any better, harris can only get her way by you doing you know what, and there is just too many people out there for that......... Right? so destroy Trump. Problem there, from now on, Trump will need to hold rallies in a football stadium that holds 100,000 +. Campaign donations will be greater that what the dim party has brought in over the past several elections.  If Trump was afraid of the American people sitting on their collective ass and get complacent when it came time to vote, the dims just fixed that problem. Part of Trump's message has always been to tell how crazy the dims could be, now they have shown everyone. Would someone looking to build their party make the speech shit made, cuse me that should have been schiff made , of course not, but someone looking to or thinking they could destroy the other party would. The dim party is full of people who are being made fun of, deservedly so, but your not going to win elections with that front and center. Biden can't suck them down that ol crap shoot, the crazies do have a loyal base, trouble is that will all the dims have left. They just made a bad judgement call.

That's the thing, the Dims message for getting elected, isn't what can we do for the country, it's all about hate. Hate is not a motivator and the leftist base may hate Trump, but they don't hate what he's done for the Nation.
The Lib turnout is going to be extremely weak, considering the majority know Trump is going to win, so why bother voting?

Quote from: Serveto on September 26, 2019, 01:41:36 PM
It's hard for me to believe that even leftist Democrats (pardon the redundancy) are stupid enough to think that this latest impeachment effort involving the Ukrainian president will result in anything other than yet another embarrassment for their side.  Up until now, even Nancy Pelosi was shrewd enough to stave off this insanity.  So now, all of a sudden, on the slimmest of possible chances, they're going "all in" on this silly conversation with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy?  I don't buy it.  As deranged and self-deluded as they are, it's hard for me to believe that they can't figure out that this doesn't have a chance.  So what's going on?  I think that they're done with Biden.

The Democrats know good and well that if they bring all of this out into the open, it's going to expose the corruption and malfeasance on the part of Joe Biden as it pertains to his son, Hunter.  That's going to cast enough of a question mark onto him that it will no doubt finish his political career, thus paving the way for Elizabeth Warren.  They want a woman in the Oval Office, and right now, Joe Biden is standing in the way.  What a convenient way to get rid of him--simply tap into the TDS of all the other Democrats and make them ready to go after this last-ditch effort to have President Trump impeached--and the side-effect will be publicly humiliating Biden.  Perhaps I'm attributing too much intellectual prowess to these people--but then again, Democrats have been known to be wise to do evil.  What do the rest of you think?

Quite possible, remember Woo Woo Warren was reported as conspiring recently with Hillary Clinton.  This is the type of hit piece they are famous for...that and killing people which they know they cant with Quid pro Quo Joe.

I want to find out more about this "Whistleblower" who he is and what his background is OR if he/she even exists, they have a lot of people monitoring the phone any time a President speaks to a foreign head of State....CIA NSAprobably somebody from justice plus interpretors etc, one of them or several are deep stater,s especially CIA

Trump beats Bernie. Trump beats Warren. They are to far left.

Democrats want name recognition. Republicans are also guilty of that.

Biden gives them name recognition. Most voters have no idea what is going on.

That is why "Wife of Clinton" almost won. That is why "Son of Bush" won (1st time). It was not on the issues. I am pretty sure that we will be voting for "Daughter of Trump" or "Daughter of Clinton" in another decade.