Al Qaeda-linked Somali militant group claims responsibility for deadly Kenya mall attackQuoteThe Al Qaeda-linked Somali militant group al-Shabab is claiming responsibility for a deadly attack targeting non-Muslims at an upscale mall in Kenya's capital.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/21/attack-on-nairobi-mall-kills-10-people/?intcmp=latestnews#ixzz2fYpKGvPq (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/21/attack-on-nairobi-mall-kills-10-people/?intcmp=latestnews#ixzz2fYpKGvPq)
Somalia. Isn't that where we had a Blackhawk down? Isn't this where the Somali pirates come from? Now they're attacking (non-Muslim) civilians in Kenya?
What other purpose does this shithole of a country serve? It would be a far, far better thing to turn Somalia into a parking lot. Doesn't necessarily have to be a glass parking lot, rubble-strewn will suffice. (Then go back and rearrange the rubble.)
At some point the world needs to come together and ban Islam -- worldwide. EVERY at of political violence has its roots in Islam's struggle to dominate.
Americans are injured... but I can't find out if any died or are among the remaining hostages, as the siege is still ongoing. The latest news was 25-minutes ago.
If sub-Saharan Africa would ban guns, this wouldn't have happened. So come-on, White House. Sign my petition. Vee musdt keep al qaeda (al shabaab) 'on the run'...
Quote from: kit saginaw on September 22, 2013, 03:06:11 AM
Americans are injured... but I can't find out if any died or are among the remaining hostages, as the siege is still ongoing. The latest news was 25-minutes ago.
If sub-Saharan Africa would ban guns, this wouldn't have happened. So come-on, White House. Sign my petition. Vee musdt keep al qaeda (al shabaab) 'on the run'...
:lol:
Just a simple "Gun free Zone'" sign would have nipped this in the bud.
Quote from: Yawn on September 21, 2013, 02:04:43 PM
At some point the world needs to come together and ban Islam -- worldwide. EVERY at of political violence has its roots in Islam's struggle to dominate.
History has shown that
any religion based on the belief of a willful, all powerful deity can, and eventually will, be corrupted by men to do incredible Evil. If you seek to ban Islam because some of its adherents do incredibly Evil things, then you must also ban Christianity and Judaism. Even though those two religions are relatively peaceful now, that does not mean that in the future, some charismatic leader will rise up and lead the faithful to do incredible Evil - perhaps even eclipsing the current violence perpetrated by Islamic radicals - in the name of God.
It has happened before, only a fool would say it can't happen again!
-Darth
Quote from: Solar on September 22, 2013, 05:39:01 AM
Just a simple "Gun free Zone'" sign would have nipped this in the bud.
Yep. Just like throwing chum in the water keeps sharks away.
Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 08:01:35 AM
Christians have committed atrocities against other religious and non-religious people and they are still doing it in the name of God.
Got that a little twisted, haven't you, sport? 79 dead, thaks to raghead scum.....
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/22/20631656-sunday-morning-bomb-at-christian-church-in-pakistan-kills-at-least-75?lite (http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/22/20631656-sunday-morning-bomb-at-christian-church-in-pakistan-kills-at-least-75?lite)
59 dead (and the number is climbing) at the Kenya mall. More dead in the church bombing, but look what gets the press coverage, downplaying violence by muslims agaijnst Christians.
Quote from: quiller on September 22, 2013, 08:39:40 AM
Got that a little twisted, haven't you, sport? 79 dead, thaks to raghead scum.....
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/22/20631656-sunday-morning-bomb-at-christian-church-in-pakistan-kills-at-least-75?lite (http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/22/20631656-sunday-morning-bomb-at-christian-church-in-pakistan-kills-at-least-75?lite)
59 dead (and the number is climbing) at the Kenya mall. More dead in the church bombing, but look what gets the press coverage, downplaying violence by muslims agaijnst Christians.
"And 400 years before that, you were murdering each other in quarrels over tribal god images." -Q, Encounter at Farpoint-Darth
Quote from: quiller on September 22, 2013, 08:39:40 AM
QuoteChristians have committed atrocities against other religious and non-religious people and they are still doing it in the name of God.
Got that a little twisted, haven't you, sport? 79 dead, thaks to raghead scum.....
As the old saying goes: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of liberal minds."
According to the liberal religion, the only sin is that of hypocrisy. That's why, liberal "logic" demands that only exceptions can prove rules.
Ergo, a twelve-hundred-year string of uninterrupted aggression and systematic persecution, facilitated and encouraged by Sharia governments, is a GOOD thing: Muslims doing what Muslims are SUPPOSED to do.
But when Jim Jones got kicked out and hunted down by Christians - while he called himself one? Proof positive that Christianity is the source of all evil in the world today.
Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 08:01:35 AM
Christians have committed atrocities against other religious and non-religious people and they are still doing it in the name of God.
Name where and when. Put up, or shut up. BTW if you say The Crusades, you prove yourself to be an ignorant asshole.
This is the problem with the anti-christs of the West. They've convinced themselves that there's some moral equivalency between Christians and Muslims. "They're both extremists." "They both commit atrocities in the name of their God." They have ZERO credibility (except among their own) when they make those statements.
Quote from: Yawn on September 22, 2013, 09:52:30 AM
This is the problem with the anti-christs of the West. They've convinced themselves that there's some moral equivalency between Christians and Muslims. "They're both extremists." "They both commit atrocities in the name of their God." They have ZERO credibility (except among their own) when they make those statements.
Moral Relativism is the perfect theology for the liberal Cult Of The Ego: "Only the ignorant little people get bogged down in details. I, on the other hand, am enlightened enough to see the Universal
oneness of all things!"
It's the ultimate form of hubris. A star and a grain of sand look exactly the same to God -- and to every braindead moron in the world. That would be perfectly fine except that, unfortunately, liberals do NOT see themselves as the braindead morons in that allegory.
Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 12:51:19 PM
Wars have been fought between Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland and between Jews and Arabs in the Middle East. Today, some people (Christians) kill abortionists in the name of God.
http://www.oodegr.com/english/atheismos/atheism_atrocities.htm (http://www.oodegr.com/english/atheismos/atheism_atrocities.htm)
http://notachristian.org/christianatrocities.html (http://notachristian.org/christianatrocities.html)
And when they do, other Christians track them down and prosecute then under applicable laws.
Quote from: PeterR on September 22, 2013, 12:58:23 PM
And when they do, other Christians track them down and prosecute then under applicable laws.
Ouch!!
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Quote from: PeterR on September 22, 2013, 12:58:23 PM
And when they do, other Christians track them down and prosecute then under applicable laws.
They would be tracked down and prosecuted regardless of the religious belief (or lack thereof) of the prosecutors. Do you have any doubt that and Islamic prosecutor (in the U.S.) would prosecute an Islamic terrorist?
-Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on September 22, 2013, 03:24:07 PM
They would be tracked down and prosecuted regardless of the religious belief (or lack thereof) of the prosecutors. Do you have any doubt that and Islamic prosecutor (in the U.S.) would prosecute an Islamic terrorist?
-Darth
That is what we do. That is precisely
not what is done in Islamic nations.
For far too long the supposed vast majority of "peace-loving, moderate Muslims" have failed to reign in the supposedly few extremists who defile their own religion. If the mullahs can't, or won't, rouse their moderate brethren to denounce the extreme fundamentalists, then they are part of the problem.
I don't know of any Christian person in our society who doesn't despise the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church. We have even passed local laws regarding them and their activities at military funerals. Large segments of our population (the Patriot Guard Riders) have acted to frustrate the efforts of the Westboro fanatics.
I see no (none, nada, nothing) such sentiments or actions in Islamic society.
Christianity did in fact move beyond the 14th century - Islam remains mired in the 7th.
Quote from: Darth Fife on September 22, 2013, 03:24:07 PM
They would be tracked down and prosecuted regardless of the religious belief (or lack thereof) of the prosecutors. Do you have any doubt that and Islamic prosecutor (in the U.S.) would prosecute an Islamic terrorist?
I don't doubt that,
in America, he would be required to follow the rules of civilized behavior. Because that's what Christians do; and that's why Muslims and liberals hate us.
Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 12:51:19 PM
Wars have been fought between Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland and between Jews and Arabs in the Middle East. Today, some people (Christians) kill abortionists in the name of God.
http://www.oodegr.com/english/atheismos/atheism_atrocities.htm (http://www.oodegr.com/english/atheismos/atheism_atrocities.htm)
http://notachristian.org/christianatrocities.html (http://notachristian.org/christianatrocities.html)
You are damn stupid. I'm sick and tired of idiots who don't understand that Christians are not supposed to kill in the name of their religion, whereas Islam demand that it's believers kill in the name of it's religion. If you can't get that simple fact through you thick skull, perhaps you shouldn't participate in these discussions. As for the murderers of the abortion doctors, the last I checked the forces of Law and Order - supposedly the representatives of the society - hunted them down. Personally I think abortionists are little better than murderers, but I'm quite willing to let the Almighty deal with them. I will put my efforts into changing the laws that allows those murders - mostly of black babies - to take place.
Quote from: mdgiles on September 22, 2013, 04:03:02 PM
You are damn stupid. I'm sick and tired of idiots who don't understand that Christians are not supposed to kill in the name of their religion, whereas Islam demand that it's believers kill in the name of it's religion. If you can't get that simple fact through you thick skull, perhaps you shouldn't participate in these discussions. As for the murderers of the abortion doctors, the last I checked the forces of Law and Order - supposedly the representatives of the society - hunted them down. Personally I think abortionists are little better than murderers, but I'm quite willing to let the Almighty deal with them. I will put my efforts into changing the laws that allows those murders - mostly of black babies - to take place.
And I'll have your back Mr. Giles.
Quote from: mdgiles on September 22, 2013, 04:03:02 PM
You are damn stupid. I'm sick and tired of idiots who don't understand that Christians are not supposed to kill in the name of their religion, whereas Islam demand that it's believers kill in the name of it's religion. If you can't get that simple fact through you thick skull, perhaps you shouldn't participate in these discussions. As for the murderers of the abortion doctors, the last I checked the forces of Law and Order - supposedly the representatives of the society - hunted them down. Personally I think abortionists are little better than murderers, but I'm quite willing to let the Almighty deal with them. I will put my efforts into changing the laws that allows those murders - mostly of black babies - to take place.
That is how Christianity presents itself today. However, it is merely one charismatic leader away from becoming the next Islam. Any organized religion can be manipulated into a force for Evil.
Good men will do good deeds and bad men will do bad deed of their own free will. It requires Religion, to get Good men to do bad deeds in the name of god.
-Darth
Quote from: PeterR on September 22, 2013, 03:46:22 PM
I don't know of any Christian person in our society who doesn't despise the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church. We have even passed local laws regarding them and their activities at military funerals. Large segments of our population (the Patriot Guard Riders) have acted to frustrate the efforts of the Westboro fanatics.
Even so, the WBC is lightyears ahead of Islamic TERRORISTS. They are only practicing "speech" (though I think they go beyond the limits of Free Speech). They don't compare to those who MURDER in the name of their religion. In the West, only the radical Left comes close (violence and vandalism).
Quote from: Darth Fife on September 22, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
That is how Christianity presents itself today. However, it is merely one charismatic leader away from becoming the next Islam. Any organized religion can be manipulated into a force for Evil.
Good men will do good deeds and bad men will do bad deed of their own free will. It requires Religion, to get Good men to do bad deeds in the name of god.
-Darth
:rolleyes:
Seriously? You think all Christians would follow the pope if he took the path you suggest?
Sorry Darth, but your conspiracy theory is simply laughable and to be quite honest makes you sound a bit loony..
Quote from: Solar on September 22, 2013, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Darth Fife on September 22, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
That is how Christianity presents itself today. However, it is merely one charismatic leader away from becoming the next Islam. Any organized religion can be manipulated into a force for Evil.
Seriously? You think all Christians would follow the pope if he took the path you suggest?
Sorry Darth, but your conspiracy theory is simply laughable and to be quite honest makes you sound a bit loony..
Lighten up dude. The guy believes that Atheism is a "disorganized" religion. And that (somehow) makes the hundred million REAL murders irrelevant, when compared to all the hordes of imaginary people Christianity graphically slaughtered inside this guy's head.
There's no reason to call his beliefs "loony." It's 100% accurate, of course; there's just no reason anybody needs to say it.
Quote from: kopema on September 22, 2013, 05:03:40 PM
Seriously? You think all Christians would follow the pope if he took the path you suggest?
Sorry Darth, but your conspiracy theory is simply laughable and to be quite honest makes you sound a bit loony..
Lighten up dude. The guy believes that Atheism is a "disorganized" religion. And that (somehow) makes the hundred million REAL murders irrelevant, when compared to all the hordes of imaginary people Christianity graphically slaughtered inside this guy's head.
There's no reason to call his beliefs "loony." It's 100% accurate, of course; there's just no reason anybody needs to say it.
Yes, it was a nutty thing to say, Christians don't follow man, they follow God and the bible and the law, it's also a conservative construct most are raised with.
It's just his bigotry speaking, nothing else.
Quote from: Solar on September 22, 2013, 04:25:12 PM
:rolleyes:
Seriously? You think all Christians would follow the pope if he took the path you suggest?
Sorry Darth, but your conspiracy theory is simply laughable and to be quite honest makes you sound a bit loony..
Sorry, if I happen to be a student of history...
I suggest you google "Corrupt Popes" for starters. For something a little more recent, how about the "Prophet" Joseph Smith, or that wonderful little imp Charlie Manson?*
Oh, and I didn't say "all" Christians would follow a corrupt, Christian leader. But then again, not all Germans followed Adolf Hitler.
As for the insipid comment that not believing in god is, in itself, an unorganized religions, I would only ask if not believing in the Easter Bunny is also an "unorganized religion"?
-Darth
*Oh, yes, Charles Manson had a very strict religious upbringing. He viewed himself and The Family and the catalyst which would bring about the events depicted in the Book of Revelations!
Quote from: walkstall on September 22, 2013, 04:26:37 PM
Semper Fi
I am familiar with the phrase, but I am not one of its progeny.
If, however inadvertently, I may have given you the impression I was a Marine, I have to disabuse you of that belief. I was a Navy Corpsman attached to the First Marine Division during that unpleasantness in Korea. I was
with the Marines, but never
in the Marines.
During the time I was with Able Medical Company (similar to a MASH unit, absent the presence of nurses), we Corpsmen had a saying (but never within earshot of any Marines):
"The Marine Corps trains cooks, clerks and killers; the skill positions they borrow from the Navy."
That being said (and with a furtive look around in case Goose is lurking), I had, and still retain, an admiration for the courage and esprit de corps of all Marines. In the midst of chaos and carnage, they showed a most solicitous concern for the well-being of their Corpsman, for which, on more than one occasion, I was grateful.
Semper Fi, indeed, my friend.
Quote from: Darth Fife on September 22, 2013, 07:08:22 PM
Sorry, if I happen to be a student of history... I suggest you google "Corrupt Popes" for starters. For something a little more recent, how about the "Prophet" Joseph Smith, or that wonderful little imp Charlie Manson?*....................
OK, you're going to have to narrow this WAYYY down. Exactly which part of that insane gibberish is supposed to prove that you're not completely batshit crazy?
You're not even just a run-of-the-mill fanatic anymore; you're just going around in an incredibly tight circle on that crazy train of yours. Everytime somebody points out you're using exceptions to prove rules, you triple down. And now there's something in there about the Easter Bunny killing more people than the religions of Communism, Socialism and Fascism combined?
If any part of this was meant as a joke, it stopped being funny a long time ago.
Quote from: mdgiles on September 22, 2013, 09:22:22 AM
Name where and when. Put up, or shut up. BTW if you say The Crusades, you prove yourself to be an ignorant asshole.
It's always either the Crusades, or Timothy McVeigh... libs are so predictable.
Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 08:33:24 PM
Btw, I don't give a fuck if the forces of Law and Order - supposedly the representatives of the society - hunted them down. They still killed, the ones who called themselves Christians in the name of their god.
What the hell are you talking about? Have you taken your medication?
Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 08:24:48 PMYou'll the goddam stupid one boy. It's idiots like you who don't understand that some Christians are not supposed to DO kill in the name of their god religion. The fact are there, it's your goddam thick skull that wont accept reality. You should disallow yourself from participating in discussions, if you can not accept the facts.
The Atheist who couldn't even read the original OP calls someone else "Goddamned" and "stupid" and "idiot." And then AGAIN claims that only the people who violate Christianity are representatives of it; and says anyone who disagrees with him "won't accept reality" and should be silenced.
And oh, BTW, the "all beliefs except mine are violent" sermon came from the guy with the "I am going to murder everyone on this forum" signature.
Did he miss anything? If not, then it would appear that the Christianity-Is-Evil argument has finally been condensed into a singularity.
Quote from: Darth Fife on September 22, 2013, 07:08:22 PM
Sorry, if I happen to be a student of history...
I suggest you google "Corrupt Popes" for starters. For something a little more recent, how about the "Prophet" Joseph Smith, or that wonderful little imp Charlie Manson?*
Oh, and I didn't say "all" Christians would follow a corrupt, Christian leader. But then again, not all Germans followed Adolf Hitler.
As for the insipid comment that not believing in god is, in itself, an unorganized religions, I would only ask if not believing in the Easter Bunny is also an "unorganized religion"?
-Darth
*Oh, yes, Charles Manson had a very strict religious upbringing. He viewed himself and The Family and the catalyst which would bring about the events depicted in the Book of Revelations!
Manson? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, he had thousands following him. :rolleyes:
Our laws are based on Christian/Judeo laws, Christians follow no one man, they follow the bible.
Are you saying that Christians are going to break their own doctrine to worship a man and follow him off a cliff?
Dude, you really are a bigot with a serious problem of hatred for God or Christ in this case and those that believe in him, it's people like you that are far more dangerous and destructive to the Constitution than any Christian could possibly ever be.
I assume you even want to change the opening statement in the Declaration of Independence because of your disdain for our creator?
And I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
Quote
As for the insipid comment that not believing in god is, in itself, an unorganized religions, I would only ask if not believing in the Easter Bunny is also an "unorganized religion"?
And for the record, I am not a Christian, but I thank God our Nation was founded on Christian values and not some damn fool Atheist.
Think about that.
Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 08:46:53 PMQuote from: taxed on September 22, 2013, 08:26:52 PM
It's always either the Crusades, or Timothy McVeigh... libs are so predictable.
What the hell are you talking about? Have you taken your meds? :rolleyes:
Your intelligence and sanity are matched only by your originality.
Quote from: Solar on September 22, 2013, 08:48:41 PM
Dude, you really are a bigot with a serious problem of hatred for God or Christ in this case and those that believe in him, it's people like you that are far more dangerous and destructive to the Constitution than any Christian could possibly ever be.
I know that sort of
sounds bad. But it really goes even deeper than that.
Until and unless somebody comes out with an official Atheist Bible, that belief system (or rather anti-belief system) will remain functionally identical to nihilism.
Do liberals REALLY believe their constant claims that Christianity is the same thing as Nazism or Islam? I think even they don't have a clue. They just see everything outside themselves as a giant blob of
wrongness. And anything that tries to "trick" them into thinking it isn't evil -- only proves itself to be hypocritical, and therefore the ultimate evil.
It's not a situation where "down that path lies madness." That path is madness. The craziest Muslim extremist in the world at least knows that he HAS beliefs; the liberal willingly severs that last tiny thread back to the concept of an objective reality.
Quote from: kopema on September 22, 2013, 09:16:39 PM
I know that sort of sounds bad. But it really goes even deeper than that.
Until and unless somebody comes out with an official Atheist Bible, that belief system (or rather anti-belief system) will remain functionally identical to nihilism.
Do liberals REALLY believe their constant claims that Christianity is the same thing as Nazism or Islam? I think even they don't have a clue. They just see everything outside themselves as a giant blob of wrongness. And anything that tries to "trick" them into thinking it isn't evil -- only proves itself to be hypocritical, and therefore the ultimate evil.
It's not a situation where "down that path lies madness." That path is madness. The craziest Muslim extremist in the world at least knows that he HAS beliefs; the liberal willingly severs that last tiny thread back to the concept of an objective reality.
Well said, and you're right, it is inseparable from the nihilistic delusion of destroying everything we hold dear in our culture.
I'd love to hear how Atheists would have written the Bill of Rights or the Constitution in the days of our founders.
Quote from: Solar on September 22, 2013, 10:01:41 PM
I'd love to hear how Atheists would have written the Bill of Rights or the Constitution in the days of our founders.
You don't need a huge amount of imagination. Just read their Manifesto.
I suppose you could also try to wade through the hundreds of pages of the European Constitution, or try and assemble the sprawling jigsaw puzzle the Supreme Court has post-precedented the US Constitution into. But it would be a giant waste of time; all of that gobbledygook is really just intentional obfuscation of their core belief.
Those who attempt to equate modern Christianity with that of the chronically murderous cult of Islam are either ignorant of history or outright dishonest.
Notice how the subject's totally diverted?
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Quote from: kit saginaw on September 23, 2013, 04:32:51 AM
Notice how the subject's totally diverted?
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I've done it on lib-sites, so all I can comment-on are trolling's ostentatiously oblique intrinsicals.
Of course the post modern atheists will divert threads that show muslim violence with refering to crusades, european wars, colonization and and most humorously individuals raised in "christian" setting but with antithetical christian beliefs. I don't know whether to cry because it is so pathetic or laugh at them, but like Dennis Prager says about situations like this it is usually better to laugh :smile:
When you study the statistics of atheism and religion with murder/war/concentration camps(gulags) you can really only do two conclusions, either religion is a much lesser evil than atheism or religion/atheism are not the causes of atrocities/violence but lesser factors capable of influencing outcomes but not start them.
As for the wars of europe, when I come home I will post an article I wrote about the 30 years wars in the history forum as this is the war that most atheist claim is the best example (outside the crusades) that supposedly show that christians will kill for their God. All conflicts throughout Europe is the result of maximization of power by the ruling regimes in Europe and has nothing to do with religion in itself except for it being politically expedient to use religion when applicable to reach those ends and discard religion when it would be a hindrance.
The Fallen mentioned Ireland, but as self proclaimed students of history these atheists really haven't done their homework. If they did they would realize that the problems in Ireland are the cause of British colonization policies and land appropriation of which differenes in religion is just a byproduct of these policies.
Quote from: kopema on September 22, 2013, 10:42:03 PM
You don't need a huge amount of imagination. Just read their Manifesto.
I suppose you could also try to wade through the hundreds of pages of the European Constitution, or try and assemble the sprawling jigsaw puzzle the Supreme Court has post-precedented the US Constitution into. But it would be a giant waste of time; all of that gobbledygook is really just intentional obfuscation of their core belief.
Good point, one need look no further than communist China as an example of Religious freedoms. :laugh:
This is the photo essay showing peaceful Islam at work. These bowel waste savages asked people as young as 5 what the name of the pisspot fake prophet Mohammed's MOTHER was. If they couldn't answer---they died.
Peaceful Islam. Yes, yes, in EVERY way like Christianity!!!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2428875/Terror-Kenya-Survivors-reveal-gunman-executed-non-Muslims.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2428875/Terror-Kenya-Survivors-reveal-gunman-executed-non-Muslims.html)
Some of these followers of MudHamMud are recent Somali immigrants to America who returned to the Dark Continent to drive Christians from that backward land. They're deliberately putting these savages in Michele Bachmanns district.
Quote from: quiller on September 23, 2013, 06:15:38 AM
Peaceful Islam. Yes, yes, in EVERY way like Christianity!!!!!
George Orwell's definition of liberals: "power worshippers without power."
Inside every liberal nutjob's head is an unshakeable image of how Christianity would work if HE were running it. And yes, that happens to look an awful lot like Islam.
BTW, did you ever notice that every liberals' insane and idiotic image of how free enterprise works always turns out to look EXACTLY like what would happen if all businesses were run by chronically unemployable narcissistic jackasses who were more interested in waging class warfare than in actually providing any useful goods and services at a competitive price?
Again: not a coincidence.
Quote from: kopema on September 23, 2013, 10:01:51 AM
George Orwell's definition of liberals: "power worshippers without power."
Inside every liberal nutjob's head is an unshakeable image of how Christianity would work if HE were running it. And yes, that happens to look an awful lot like Islam.
BTW, did you ever notice that every liberals' insane and idiotic image of how businesses work always turns out to look EXACTLY like what would happen if they were all run by chronically unemployable narcissistic jackasses who were more interested in waging class warfare than in actually providing any useful goods and services at a competitive price?
Again: not a coincidence.
Eric Blair (Orwell's real name) was a Fabian socialist warning of what leftist trash like the muslim maggot Obama would do, if in power.
"And now, here's Chris Matthews with the Two Minutes of Hate!"
Quote from: Darth Fife on September 22, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
That is how Christianity presents itself today. However, it is merely one charismatic leader away from becoming the next Islam. Any organized religion can be manipulated into a force for Evil.
Good men will do good deeds and bad men will do bad deed of their own free will. It requires Religion, to get Good men to do bad deeds in the name of god.
-Darth
Only if they can make 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian commentary disappear. Unlike Islam, Judeo-Christianity has a long history of examination of its Holy book.
Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 08:24:48 PM
You'll the goddam stupid one boy. It's idiots like you who don't understand that some Christians are not supposed to DO kill in the name of their god religion. The fact are there, it's your goddam thick skull that wont accept reality. You should disallow yourself from participating in discussions, if you can not accept the facts.
Christians are not supposed to kill, but they do.
EXACTLY, for some reason you're incapable of understanding the difference between someone breaking the dictates of their religion, and someone following it. Muslims are
SUPPOSED to kill. Even as you type that point in, the significance of what you're typing doesn't register.
Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 09:36:06 PM
2 Chronicles 7:14
King James Version (KJV)
14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Who do you think the Lord is talking about when He said "My people" ...?
So let me see if I understand this correctly; in order to prove your point, you're quoting from a book in which you don't believe?
Quote from: Telmark on September 23, 2013, 03:43:04 AM
Those who attempt to equate modern Christianity with that of the chronically murderous cult of Islam are either ignorant of history or outright dishonest.
From what I've heard, I'd go with both ignorant AND dishonest. :rolleyes:
Quote from: mdgiles on September 23, 2013, 11:37:36 AM
Only if they can make 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian commentary disappear. Unlike Islam, Judeo-Christianity has a long history of examination of its Holy book.
Huh? Muslims examine the living hell out of their unholy book and its even more unholy author. That's the big problem.
The Old Testament is the Readers' Digest Condensed Version of a whole bunch of Jewish tomes chronicling mankind's ascent from barbarism to enlightenment. That's where psychos of all faiths dredge up the crazy and wildly out-of-context "examples" of how "evil" Christianity is.
The Koran is basically the Old Testament - but in reverse.
If you want to know about Christianity, the ONLY thing you need to do is know about Christ. The New Testament (i.e., the New Covenant) makes that perfectly clear.
The fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity is the difference between Mohammed and Jesus. And that's infinitely more profound than the difference between night and day.
Well, it's obvious that most of the MSM is doing everything they can to say as little as possible about the direct Islamic connection to this terror attack.
Meanwhile, it only took a day or two before the MSM headlined the story that the Naval yard shooter was a Buddhist (even though this probably had nothing to do with the crime).
Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 08:24:48 PM
You'll the goddam stupid one boy. It's idiots like you who don't understand that some Christians are not supposed to DO kill in the name of their god religion. The fact are there, it's your goddam thick skull that wont accept reality. You should disallow yourself from participating in discussions, if you can not accept the facts.
Christians are not supposed to kill, but they do.
You should GTFU and slow down the insults and name-calling.
As for the logic, every belief system has killers in it's community. You have to actually use some reason and admit which one(s) actually have MODERN doctrine & dogma which advocate violence and conquest.
Hint : This doesn't include books and crusades from 1000's of years ago that no longer exist. It's about philosophies and beliefs of today. We live and experience things today.
Give it a whirl....think and speak like a grown man.
Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 08:24:48 PM
You'll the goddam stupid one boy. It's idiots like you who don't understand that some Christians are not supposed to DO kill in the name of their god religion. The fact are there, it's your goddam thick skull that wont accept reality. You should disallow yourself from participating in discussions, if you can not accept the facts.
Christians are not supposed to kill, but they do.
Baruch Hashem (Blessed be The Name)
And some, who tell us they're followers of Him, easily take His Name in vain (the 3rd COMMANDMENT You SHALL NOT take the Name of the Lord Your God, in vain. The Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His Name in vain)) -- something "christians" aren't "supposed" to do.
Now, back to your point, can you list anyone who killed IN HIS NAME the way Muslims kill for Allah. I can't think of any. Not even those who kill abortionists do it IN HIS NAME. They do it to stop killers (abortionists) from murdering for profit.
Quote from: AndyJackson on September 23, 2013, 02:57:35 PM
You should GTFU and slow down the insults and name-calling.
As for the logic, every belief system has killers in it's community. You have to actually use some reason and admit which one(s) actually have MODERN doctrine & dogma which advocate violence and conquest.
Hint : This doesn't include books and crusades from 1000's of years ago that no longer exist. It's about philosophies and beliefs of today. We live and experience things today.
Give it a whirl....think and speak like a grown man.
How many has the religion of liberalism killed in the name of a woman's right?
Anti-God zealots vandalize Ten Commandments
Atheists and Muslims join forces against America culture. Why do Atheist murder so many in the name of their god?
A stone monument of the Ten Commandments that sits on a street behind the U.S. Supreme Court in Washington and was the subject of controversy in the past has been toppled by vandals. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/23/10-Commandments-monument-toppled-in-Washington (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/23/10-Commandments-monument-toppled-in-Washington)
OK, the thread topic was about a Muslim terrorist attack.
If one guy derails it into a retardeological attack on Christianity then couldn't you just move, you know... him?
Quote from: kopema on September 23, 2013, 06:12:25 PM
OK, the thread topic was about a Muslim terrorist attack.
If one guy derails it into a retardeological attack on Christianity then couldn't you just move, you know... him?
It hasn't been on topic since darth derailed it.
Quote from: mdgiles on September 23, 2013, 11:50:37 AM
So let me see if I understand this correctly; in order to prove your point, you're quoting from a book in which you don't believe?
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