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kopema

Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 08:24:48 PMYou'll the goddam stupid one boy. It's idiots like you who don't understand that some Christians are not supposed to DO kill in the name of their god religion.  The fact are there, it's your goddam thick skull that wont accept reality. You should disallow yourself from participating in discussions, if you can not accept the facts.

The Atheist who couldn't even read the original OP calls someone else "Goddamned" and "stupid" and "idiot."  And then AGAIN claims that only the people who violate Christianity are representatives of it; and says anyone who disagrees with him "won't accept reality" and should be silenced.

And oh, BTW, the "all beliefs except mine are violent" sermon came from the guy with the "I am going to murder everyone on this forum" signature.

Did he miss anything?  If not, then it would appear that the Christianity-Is-Evil argument has finally been condensed into a singularity.
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Quote from: Darth Fife on September 22, 2013, 07:08:22 PM
Sorry, if I happen to be a student of history...

I suggest you google "Corrupt Popes" for starters. For something a little more recent, how about the "Prophet" Joseph Smith, or that wonderful little imp Charlie Manson?*

Oh, and I didn't say "all" Christians would follow a corrupt, Christian leader. But then again, not all Germans followed Adolf Hitler.

As for the insipid comment that not believing in god is, in itself, an unorganized religions, I would only ask if not believing in the Easter Bunny is also an "unorganized religion"?

-Darth

*Oh, yes, Charles Manson had a very strict religious upbringing. He viewed himself and The Family and the catalyst which would bring about the events depicted in the Book of Revelations!
Manson? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, he had thousands following him. :rolleyes:

Our laws are based on Christian/Judeo laws, Christians follow no one man, they follow the bible.
Are you saying that Christians are going to break their own doctrine to worship a man and follow him off a cliff?

Dude, you really are a bigot with a serious problem of hatred for God or Christ in this case and those that believe in him, it's people like you that are far more dangerous and destructive to the Constitution than any Christian could possibly ever be.

I assume you even want to change the opening statement in the Declaration of Independence because of your disdain for our creator?

And I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
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As for the insipid comment that not believing in god is, in itself, an unorganized religions, I would only ask if not believing in the Easter Bunny is also an "unorganized religion"?

And for the record, I am not a Christian, but I thank God our Nation was founded on Christian values and not some damn fool Atheist.
Think about that.
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kopema

Quote from: The Fallen on September 22, 2013, 08:46:53 PM
Quote from: taxed on September 22, 2013, 08:26:52 PM
It's always either the Crusades, or Timothy McVeigh... libs are so predictable.
What the hell are you talking about?  Have you taken your meds?  :rolleyes:
Your intelligence and sanity are matched only by your originality.
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Quote from: Solar on September 22, 2013, 08:48:41 PM
Dude, you really are a bigot with a serious problem of hatred for God or Christ in this case and those that believe in him, it's people like you that are far more dangerous and destructive to the Constitution than any Christian could possibly ever be.

I know that sort of sounds bad.  But it really goes even deeper than that.

Until and unless somebody comes out with an official Atheist Bible, that belief system (or rather anti-belief system) will remain functionally identical to nihilism.

Do liberals REALLY believe their constant claims that Christianity is the same thing as Nazism or Islam?  I think even they don't have a clue.  They just see everything outside themselves as a giant blob of wrongness.  And anything that tries to "trick" them into thinking it isn't evil -- only proves itself to be hypocritical, and therefore the ultimate evil.

It's not a situation where "down that path lies madness."  That path is madness.  The craziest Muslim extremist in the world at least knows that he HAS beliefs; the liberal willingly severs that last tiny thread back to the concept of an objective reality.
''It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error.''

- Justice Robert H. Jackson

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Quote from: kopema on September 22, 2013, 09:16:39 PM
I know that sort of sounds bad.  But it really goes even deeper than that.

Until and unless somebody comes out with an official Atheist Bible, that belief system (or rather anti-belief system) will remain functionally identical to nihilism.

Do liberals REALLY believe their constant claims that Christianity is the same thing as Nazism or Islam?  I think even they don't have a clue.  They just see everything outside themselves as a giant blob of wrongness.  And anything that tries to "trick" them into thinking it isn't evil -- only proves itself to be hypocritical, and therefore the ultimate evil.

It's not a situation where "down that path lies madness."  That path is madness.  The craziest Muslim extremist in the world at least knows that he HAS beliefs; the liberal willingly severs that last tiny thread back to the concept of an objective reality.
Well said, and you're right, it is inseparable from the nihilistic delusion of destroying everything we hold dear in our culture.
I'd love to hear how Atheists would have written the Bill of Rights or the Constitution in the days of our founders.
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Quote from: Solar on September 22, 2013, 10:01:41 PM
I'd love to hear how Atheists would have written the Bill of Rights or the Constitution in the days of our founders.

You don't need a huge amount of imagination.  Just read their Manifesto.

I suppose you could also try to wade through the hundreds of pages of the European Constitution, or try and assemble the sprawling jigsaw puzzle the Supreme Court has post-precedented the US Constitution into.  But it would be a giant waste of time; all of that gobbledygook is really just intentional obfuscation of their core belief.
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Those who attempt to equate modern Christianity with that of the chronically murderous cult of Islam are either ignorant of history or outright dishonest.




kit saginaw

Notice how the subject's totally diverted? 

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I've done it on lib-sites, so all I can comment-on are trolling's ostentatiously oblique intrinsicals.

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Quote from: kit saginaw on September 23, 2013, 04:32:51 AM
Notice how the subject's totally diverted? 

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I've done it on lib-sites, so all I can comment-on are trolling's ostentatiously oblique intrinsicals.

Of course the post modern atheists will divert threads that show muslim violence with refering to crusades, european wars, colonization and and most humorously individuals raised in "christian" setting but with antithetical christian beliefs. I don't know whether to cry because it is so pathetic or laugh at them, but like Dennis Prager says about situations like this it is usually better to laugh  :smile:

When you study the statistics of atheism and religion with murder/war/concentration camps(gulags) you can really only do two conclusions, either religion is a much lesser evil than atheism or religion/atheism are not the causes of atrocities/violence but lesser factors capable of influencing outcomes but not start them.

As for the wars of europe, when I come home I will post an article I wrote about the 30 years wars in the history forum as this is the war that most atheist claim is the best example (outside the crusades) that supposedly show that christians will kill for their God. All conflicts throughout Europe is the result of maximization of power by the ruling regimes in Europe and has nothing to do with religion in itself except for it being politically expedient to use religion when applicable to reach those ends and discard religion when it would be a hindrance.

The Fallen mentioned Ireland, but as self proclaimed students of history these atheists really haven't done their homework. If they did they would realize that the problems in Ireland are the cause of British colonization policies and land appropriation of which differenes in religion is just a byproduct of these policies.

Solar

Quote from: kopema on September 22, 2013, 10:42:03 PM
You don't need a huge amount of imagination.  Just read their Manifesto.

I suppose you could also try to wade through the hundreds of pages of the European Constitution, or try and assemble the sprawling jigsaw puzzle the Supreme Court has post-precedented the US Constitution into.  But it would be a giant waste of time; all of that gobbledygook is really just intentional obfuscation of their core belief.
Good point, one need look no further than communist China as an example of Religious freedoms. :laugh:
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This is the photo essay showing peaceful Islam at work. These bowel waste savages asked people as young as 5 what the name of the pisspot fake prophet Mohammed's MOTHER was. If they couldn't answer---they died.

Peaceful Islam. Yes, yes, in EVERY way like Christianity!!!!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2428875/Terror-Kenya-Survivors-reveal-gunman-executed-non-Muslims.html

Yawn

Some of these followers of MudHamMud are recent Somali immigrants to America who returned to the Dark Continent to drive Christians from that backward land.  They're deliberately putting these savages in Michele Bachmanns district.

kopema

Quote from: quiller on September 23, 2013, 06:15:38 AM
Peaceful Islam. Yes, yes, in EVERY way like Christianity!!!!!

George Orwell's definition of liberals:  "power worshippers without power."

Inside every liberal nutjob's head is an unshakeable image of how Christianity would work if HE were running it.  And yes, that happens to look an awful lot like Islam.

BTW, did you ever notice that every liberals' insane and idiotic image of how free enterprise works always turns out to look EXACTLY like what would happen if all businesses were run by chronically unemployable narcissistic jackasses who were more interested in waging class warfare than in actually providing any useful goods and services at a competitive price?

Again:  not a coincidence.
''It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error.''

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Quote from: kopema on September 23, 2013, 10:01:51 AM
George Orwell's definition of liberals:  "power worshippers without power."

Inside every liberal nutjob's head is an unshakeable image of how Christianity would work if HE were running it.  And yes, that happens to look an awful lot like Islam.

BTW, did you ever notice that every liberals' insane and idiotic image of how businesses work always turns out to look EXACTLY like what would happen if they were all run by chronically unemployable narcissistic jackasses who were more interested in waging class warfare than in actually providing any useful goods and services at a competitive price?

Again:  not a coincidence.

Eric Blair (Orwell's real name) was a Fabian socialist warning of what leftist trash like the muslim maggot Obama would do, if in power.

"And now, here's Chris Matthews with the Two Minutes of Hate!"

mdgiles

Quote from: Darth Fife on September 22, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
That is how Christianity presents itself today. However, it is merely one charismatic leader away from becoming the next Islam. Any organized religion can be manipulated into a force for Evil.

Good men will do good deeds and bad men will do bad deed of their own free will. It requires Religion, to get Good men to do bad deeds in the name of god.

-Darth
Only if they can make 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian commentary disappear. Unlike Islam, Judeo-Christianity has a long history of examination of its Holy book.
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