QuoteNorth Korean Missile Launch Fails, and a Show of Strength Fizzles
SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea launched a ballistic missile Sunday morning from near its submarine base in Sinpo on its east coast, but the launch failed, according to American and South Korean military officials.
The timing was a deep embarrassment for the North's leader, Kim Jong-un, because the missile appeared to have been launched to show off his daring as a fleet of American warships approached his country to deter provocations.
Cmdr. Dave Benham, a spokesman for the United States Pacific Command, said the military had "detected and tracked what we assess was a North Korean missile launch at 11:21 a.m. Hawaii time April 15."
The missile blew up almost immediately, and the type of missile involved is still being assessed, he said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/15/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-pyongyang-kim-jong-un.html?_r=0
I guess the whole world should be shaking in fear from this Clown! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: redbeard on April 15, 2017, 05:34:26 PM
I guess the whole world should be shaking in fear from this Clown! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
For now, the little fat boy is crying wolf ... one of these days he just may actually succeed and catch everyone off guard.
Quote from: Ms.Independence on April 15, 2017, 06:07:24 PM
For now, the little fat boy is crying wolf ... one of these days he just may actually succeed and catch everyone off guard.
It's not over yet over there. This latest missile attempt just fanned the fire! I think the short crazy fat guy is Dead man walking. Someone is going to take him out and I would put my money on China!
Talk about incompetent... :lol:
Kind of like the guy that tries to rob a bank, pulls out his gun, clip falls out, looks at gun, pulls trigger, shoots himself, then sues the bank because the security guard broke his ribs with a nightstick.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2017, 06:05:15 PM
I really believe North Korea will detonate a nuke. I just think it will be accidental and in North Korea.
I'm halfway there!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39612095
Watch the video of John Sudworth (both). ...granted, both of they would have passed censorship.
I've often wondered, "If we could get the IDEAL of Liberty and Freedom to these people, could or would they respond positively, or would it take near annihilation and occupation to turn their culture around, a generation, perhaps?"
Iraq is still 'up in the air' as to their future. Maybe just liberation isn't enough.
Japan worked, Germany worked pretty well also.. until the idiots opened the borders to lunacy - now they're trying to figure out how to prevent Tranny, again!
I don't think China would allow North Korea to turn to a representative form of government - ever. I'd guess they'd be perfectly happy with a single Korean state, all Communist.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 16, 2017, 06:44:20 AM
I've often wondered, "If we could get the IDEAL of Liberty and Freedom to these people, could or would they respond positively, or would it take near annihilation and occupation to turn their culture around, a generation, perhaps?"
South Korea is probably the best example of how it can go.
It took from 1953 to now to get South Korea fully democratic.
There were a lot of struggles between populism and authoritarianism
throughout those decades.
Authoritarianism is deeply rooted in Asian culture.
It will take at least two generations to transform the culture.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 16, 2017, 06:44:20 AM
I don't think China would allow North Korea to turn to a representative form of government - ever. I'd guess they'd be perfectly happy with a single Korean state, all Communist.
I've been saying that China likes to have North Korea around
to do the dirty jobs for which China doesn't want to be blamed.
Maybe China is becoming more civilized.
Maybe China is deciding that they have no use for such a henchman anymore.
Maybe China has decided that they can out-compete everyone economically,
and doesn't want a loose cannon like North Korea
threatening to make a mess of the world.
Quote from: je_freedom on April 16, 2017, 10:38:46 AM
South Korea is probably the best example of how it can go.
It took from 1953 to now to get South Korea fully democratic.
There were a lot of struggles between populism and authoritarianism
throughout those decades.
Authoritarianism is deeply rooted in Asian culture.
It will take at least two generations to transform the culture.
I've been saying that China likes to have North Korea around
to do the dirty jobs for which China doesn't want to be blamed.
Maybe China is becoming more civilized.
Maybe China is deciding that they have no use for such a henchman anymore.
Maybe China has decided that they can out-compete everyone economically,
and doesn't want a loose cannon like North Korea
threatening to make a mess of the world.
IF the little fat boy thinks the U.S. is a push over. Then just think what the fat boy thinks China would be if they were to go after them.
Quote from: je_freedom on April 16, 2017, 10:38:46 AM
South Korea is probably the best example of how it can go.
It took from 1953 to now to get South Korea fully democratic.
There were a lot of struggles between populism and authoritarianism
throughout those decades.
Authoritarianism is deeply rooted in Asian culture.
It will take at least two generations to transform the culture.
I've been saying that China likes to have North Korea around
to do the dirty jobs for which China doesn't want to be blamed.
Maybe China is becoming more civilized.
Maybe China is deciding that they have no use for such a henchman anymore.
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"Authoritarianism is deeply rooted in Asian culture.
It will take at least two generations to transform the culture."
I agree on this point. The same crowd has been in total control for multiple generations. There is not anybody living there today who has really ever had the opportunity or responsibility of making decisions. The culture of capitalism and democracy is foreign to what they have ever seen it will take a long time.
Another good point you made is that maybe China feels they can compete economically on the world stage. The Chinese are quite smart and have probably figured out communism and capitalism do not mix. They have given their population a taste of capitalism and that toothpaste cannot be put back into the tube.
Quote from: je_freedom on April 16, 2017, 10:38:46 AM
South Korea is probably the best example of how it can go.
It took from 1953 to now to get South Korea fully democratic.
There were a lot of struggles between populism and authoritarianism
throughout those decades.
Authoritarianism is deeply rooted in Asian culture.
It will take at least two generations to transform the culture.
I've been saying that China likes to have North Korea around
to do the dirty jobs for which China doesn't want to be blamed.
Maybe China is becoming more civilized.
Maybe China is deciding that they have no use for such a henchman anymore.
Maybe China has decided that they can out-compete everyone economically,
and doesn't want a loose cannon like North Korea
threatening to make a mess of the world.
For NK to change, China has to reform first, stop fearing the outside world as the enemy.
But as long as china's phobias exist, NK will always be a poverty ridden puppet. NK is the buffer between the evils of the Western world and china itself, much like a frightened child in the night hiding safely under his blanket from the monsters in the dark.
It's not so much a generational issue, as it is millennia of isolation.
Quote from: Solar on April 16, 2017, 01:09:04 PM
For NK to change, China has to reform first, stop fearing the outside world as the enemy.
But as long as china's phobias exist, NK will always be a poverty ridden puppet. NK is the buffer between the evils of the Western world and china itself, much like a frightened child in the night hiding safely under his blanket from the monsters in the dark.
It's not so much a generational issue, as it is millennia of isolation.
Unlike the rest of us, Solar, you have a unique perspective on North Korea.
Kinda *suspected* NK was some kind of Chinese buffer, based on the numerous times China flew fighters into NK to engage US air planes.
Then the huge ground forces that seemingly emerged out of "nowhere" and almost went unchecked across the whole nation.
North Korea is to China, like the Golan Heights is to Israel....
a buffer zone. the last place I'd want to live.Truth be told, North Korea is the "Laboratory rat cage" of China's Communism. How far can you push these people in utter poverty and deprivation before they rebel... and how to stop them when they do. In fact, I'll bet the
Chinese watched those military parades and wondered, "What do we need to do, to get our people in such a patriotic spirit? That little fat guy has done better than we ever expected!"
Reminds me of Hillary Clinton speaking admiringly of Cristina Kirchner (Argentina) during the height of her power, 'a true woman of power, in a world of men.'
Quote from: Solar on April 16, 2017, 01:09:04 PM
For NK to change, China has to reform first, stop fearing the outside world as the enemy.
But as long as china's phobias exist, NK will always be a poverty ridden puppet. NK is the buffer between the evils of the Western world and china itself, much like a frightened child in the night hiding safely under his blanket from the monsters in the dark.
It's not so much a generational issue, as it is millennia of isolation.
A puppet is no good if you can't control him. North Korea's position with China has been Deeply reduced by the unpredictable actions of the little fat crazy guy! Soon it will get to the point that removing and replacing him with someone more stable would be in china's interest. If China leaves it to the US and south Korea they could lose their influence over a united Korea!
I think China will act!
Quote from: Hoofer on April 16, 2017, 01:35:27 PM
Unlike the rest of us, Solar, you have a unique perspective on North Korea.
Kinda *suspected* NK was some kind of Chinese buffer, based on the numerous times China flew fighters into NK to engage US air planes.
Then the huge ground forces that seemingly emerged out of "nowhere" and almost went unchecked across the whole nation.
North Korea is to China, like the Golan Heights is to Israel.... a buffer zone. the last place I'd want to live.
Truth be told, North Korea is the "Laboratory rat cage" of China's Communism. How far can you push these people in utter poverty and deprivation before they rebel... and how to stop them when they do. In fact, I'll bet the Chinese watched those military parades and wondered, "What do we need to do, to get our people in such a patriotic spirit? That little fat guy has done better than we ever expected!"
Reminds me of Hillary Clinton speaking admiringly of Cristina Kirchner (Argentina) during the height of her power, 'a true woman of power, in a world of men.'
I guess it's a testament to complete control over all information and how a true communist state can, as you put it, "Laboratory rat cage", mold the populace into whatever you want.
They also believe to a certain extent that beyond the DMZ lies great evils, that is, unless you are some of the privileged few with connections to SK.
But for the most part, the majority of NK are kept in the dark and taught to believe Americans are evil slaveholders through Capitalism.
I try and keep up with what is happening in the area and read the horror stories of the few that escape from time to time. The one telling story is how they live in abject fear of the govt, but Kim is all loving as their true savior. :blink:
I guess in truth, it's the same story for every dictatorship throughout history, just hard to believe in what we consider the enlightened and modern era, such a horror still exists, which brings us to China and it's selfish need to keep NK functioning at all costs.
Quote from: redbeard on April 16, 2017, 01:36:54 PM
A puppet is no good if you can't control him. North Korea's position with China has been Deeply reduced by the unpredictable actions of the little fat crazy guy! Soon it will get to the point that removing and replacing him with someone more stable would be in china's interest. If China leaves it to the US and south Korea they could lose their influence over a united Korea!
I think China will act!
The puppet is doing exactly as instructed, don't believe the Kabuki theater the press and China want you to swallow.
Kim does exactly what he is told, even when he acts like the spoiled impulsive child he is, he still knows he only exists at the pleasure of China.
If you look at any picture of the young Kim, you'll see the exact same skinny old handler behind him every time, this guy answers directly to China, he is the intermediary between the child and the old leadership of China and if things don't go the way China dictates....
Well suffice it to say, it will always go the way of China. They will tell him to rein him in or replace him if the kid gets out of hand.
When it comes to NK, it's a product of China plain and simple.
Search out "Kim's handlers in North Korea". There is a lot written on the subject, but suffice it to say, it reads like an amazing plot, as in who controls the Mafia?
Quote from: Solar on April 16, 2017, 02:24:48 PM
The puppet is doing exactly as instructed, don't believe the Kabuki theater the press and China want you to swallow.
Kim does exactly what he is told, even when he acts like the spoiled impulsive child he is, he still knows he only exists at the pleasure of China.
If you look at any picture of the young Kim, you'll see the exact same skinny old handler behind him every time, this guy answers directly to China, he is the intermediary between the child and the old leadership of China and if things don't go the way China dictates....
Well suffice it to say, it will always go the way of China. They will tell him to rein him in or replace him if the kid gets out of hand.
When it comes to NK, it's a product of China plain and simple.
Search out "Kim's handlers in North Korea". There is a lot written on the subject, but suffice it to say, it reads like an amazing plot, as in who controls the Mafia?
Then Trump did exactly the right thing by calling the Chinese President out on The little fat crazy guy! If it is determined that Kim has outlived his usefulness he is dead man Walking! China is in a great place right now to replace the little shit with a new(leader) and earn the praise of the world by doing it! It is almost to the point that Kim may be worth more to them dead them alive!
Quote from: redbeard on April 16, 2017, 02:34:01 PM
Then Trump did exactly the right thing by calling the Chinese President out on The little fat crazy guy! If it is determined that Kim has outlived his usefulness he is dead man Walking! China is in a great place right now to replace the little shit with a new(leader) and earn the praise of the world by doing it! It is almost to the point that Kim may be worth more to them dead them alive!
Exactly! Trump has been playing a masterful game perfectly, put China in Check when he met with Liu and bombed Afghanistan at the same moment, that was pure genius!
Trump has been briefed well on the geopolitics of the area and I suspect he told China, if they want to keep NK as a buffer, they better sit his ass down and straighten him out, or you'll be facing the possibility of a unified Koreas at your doorstep.
Kim knew his time was running out, that's why he had his brother killed, it bought him much needed time.
China loved having a sort of Royalty line of extended kin from the original Kim, and if necessary, they'll
invent, ahem, discover a long lost relative to the original ruler.
The next few weeks are going to be fascinating to watch.
Quote from: Solar on April 16, 2017, 03:21:35 PM
Exactly! Trump has been playing a masterful game perfectly, put China in Check when he met with Liu and bombed Afghanistan at the same moment, that was pure genius!
Trump has been briefed well on the geopolitics of the area and I suspect he told China, if they want to keep NK as a buffer, they better sit his ass down and straighten him out, or you'll be facing the possibility of a unified Koreas at your doorstep.
Kim knew his time was running out, that's why he had his brother killed, it bought him much needed time.
China loved having a sort of Royalty line of extended kin from the original Kim, and if necessary, they'll invent, ahem, discover a long lost relative to the original ruler.
The next few weeks are going to be fascinating to watch.
Short of killing the little shit could China be contemplating taking control of his nukes? They moved 150,000 troops to his border. If I was North Korea I wouldn't put my nuclear storage site close to the coast or the DMZ which really leaves the northern areas of the country near China! I'm sure China knows where they are and it Would sure pull his teeth! :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
http://www.nti.org/gmap/missile_north_korea.html
This is the map of North Korea's Nuke, Chemical, biological and missile sites.
Quote from: redbeard on April 16, 2017, 04:33:20 PM
Short of killing the little shit could China be contemplating taking control of his nukes? They moved 150,000 troops to his border. If I was North Korea I wouldn't put my nuclear storage site close to the coast or the DMZ which really leaves the northern areas of the country near China! I'm sure China knows where they are and it Would sure pull his teeth! :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
http://www.nti.org/gmap/missile_north_korea.html
This is the map of North Korea's Nuke, Chemical, biological and missile sites.
The troops are there in the event we decide to blast the little prick. China honestly doesn't know what Trump might do, and the troops are evidence that whatever he said to the president, he took him seriously.
The troops are to stop a flood of refugees if Trump attacks, that's it, nothing more. China simply doesn't have a military even remotely capable of going up against the US, their last military exercise was Tiananmen Square against a bunch of college kids.
This is one of those occasions I'm glad it's Trump making the plays, NK will be corralled and China will be making some serious concessions. Trump knows we're the big guy on the planet and he's not afraid to flex that muscle.
Apparently we may have hacked into their systems and brought the missle down ourselves.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3342396/north-korea-missile-launch-failure-us-cyber-attack-sabotage/
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 16, 2017, 07:10:03 PM
Apparently we may have hacked into their systems and brought the missle down ourselves.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3342396/north-korea-missile-launch-failure-us-cyber-attack-sabotage/
Honestly, I doubt it, NK has a completely isolated system. As much as it would be fun to keep swatting NK gnats out of the air, we can't take credit for NK's total incompetence. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2017, 06:45:50 AM
Honestly, I doubt it, NK has a completely isolated system. As much as it would be fun to keep swatting NK gnats out of the air, we can't take credit for NK's total incompetence. :biggrin:
I tend to agree with you. Sounds like a made for 24/7 news channels for a story.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 17, 2017, 07:15:36 AM
I tend to agree with you. Sounds like a made for 24/7 news channels for a story.
Yeah, when you look at the logistics involved, from line of sight laser strike to a ship at sea is beyond the horizon for a ship based system to lock on, let alone even see the missile.
The only possible scenario would be from space, and if I'm not mistaken, we signed a treaty on space based weapons, didn't we?
Here's a map of the area. Just click the X to close the story, map is behind.
http://koreas.liveuamap.com/en/2016/20-october-nks-irbm-launch-fails-again
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2017, 06:45:50 AM
Honestly, I doubt it, NK has a completely isolated system. As much as it would be fun to keep swatting NK gnats out of the air, we can't take credit for NK's total incompetence. :biggrin:
I think China did the last one, sort of a favor.
Fracas - first time I heard it, John Wayne, loved the way he said it, he knew a REAL Fracas when he heard one.
This is interesting speculation.http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39623882
QuoteAt a news conference at the UN on Monday, North Korea's permanent representative Ambassador Kim In-ryong, condemned the US missile strikes in Syria, which targeted an air base after a suspected chemical attack by the government.
He said the US was "disturbing global peace and stability and insisting on the gangster-like logic that its invasion of a sovereign state is decisive and just and proportionate and contributes to defending the international order".
How advanced is North Korea's nuclear programme?
And what about other world powers?
China has reiterated its call for North Korea to stop all tests, and has also called for a peaceful solution.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang told reporters in Beijing on Monday that the Korean peninsula was "highly sensitive, complicated and high risk" and that all sides should "avoid taking provocative actions that pour oil on the fire".
On Sunday, Lt Gen HR McMaster, the US top security adviser, said his country was working on a "range of options" with China, the first confirmation the two countries were co-operating to find a solution to the North Korean issue.
Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Moscow would not tolerate "missile adventures by Pyongyang" but a unilateral use of power by the US would be "a very risky course".
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Monday told a parliamentary session that diplomatic efforts were "important to maintain peace", but "dialogue for the sake of having dialogue is meaningless".
I suspect these are bold face LIES. They have other motivations, like drawing the US into another conflict, and assessing our military might & will to carry it out. Obama left the door wide open for Communist expansion, Trump is trying to close it - so, I don't buy these statements:QuoteChina has reiterated its call for North Korea to stop all tests, and has also called for a peaceful solution.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang told reporters in Beijing on Monday that the Korean peninsula was "highly sensitive, complicated and high risk" and that all sides should "avoid taking provocative actions that pour oil on the fire".
IMO - China would L-O-V-E to reunite the Korean peninsula, under some kind of communist state. Their expansion of the area continues.
QuoteRussia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Moscow would not tolerate "missile adventures by Pyongyang" but a unilateral use of power by the US would be "a very risky course".
IMO - Russian intelligence, like the Chinese might have been surprised by Donald Trump's resolve, now that they KNOW he's willing to use whatever resources America HAS... what better way to discover those weapons and their capabilities, than make-the-deploy and/or use them on a throw-away fat-little-blowhard-dictator?
For all we know, China & Russia could be making public statements, but privately, "Hey Kim, just go for it, we got your back - and, BTW, we got some unproven new technology we'd like you to try out, we'll send over some advisors too!" The long/short of it - I think we're in for another Fracas in North Korea. China & Russia will come away unscathed, but will know what we're capable of doing, the little fat dictator will probably be replaced with a smarter, more obedient, stooge. At this stage, China could be egging Kim on ...
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2017, 08:14:06 AM
Yeah, when you look at the logistics involved, from line of sight laser strike to a ship at sea is beyond the horizon for a ship based system to lock on, let alone even see the missile.
The only possible scenario would be from space, and if I'm not mistaken, we signed a treaty on space based weapons, didn't we?
Here's a map of the area. Just click the X to close the story, map is behind.
http://koreas.liveuamap.com/en/2016/20-october-nks-irbm-launch-fails-again
The rumor is that some of the electronics North Korea bought on the black market were contaminated with a virus! The great thing about this is it could be disinformation but how would the Koreans know for sure? Remember the virus dropped on the Iranian nuke program that took out their centrifuges? I'm sure the north Koreans are aware of it and these "Rumors" add a new dimension to their trouble shooting!
There may be some truth to a worm being put into his missile program. They can lie dormant and undetected for years until activated.
The really fun part of this is it may not of been us that did it. South Korea, China and epically Japan have the technology to do this. China Warned them not to shoot a missile, could be them!. It very well could be from any player in the far east!
Quote from: redbeard on April 17, 2017, 04:01:04 PM
The rumor is that some of the electronics North Korea bought on the black market were contaminated with a virus! The great thing about this is it could be disinformation but how would the Koreans know for sure? Remember the virus dropped on the Iranian nuke program that took out their centrifuges? I'm sure the north Koreans are aware of it and these "Rumors" add a new dimension to their trouble shooting!
There may be some truth to a worm being put into his missile program. They can lie dormant and undetected for years until activated.
The really fun part of this is it may not of been us that did it. South Korea, China and epically Japan have the technology to do this. China Warned them not to shoot a missile, could be them!. It very well could be from any player in the far east!
Yeah, and it could be sabotage from within, or simply incompetence.
We'll never know, but I assure you, everyone, that worked on the rocket, from parts supplier to tarmac sweeper is facing lie detectors and interrogation techniques.
Truth is, it was most likely due to a fledging program, a program that's had more successes than failures and has been lucky up until they do they start bloviating and bellowing how great and awesome they are, only to keep the gun holstered and shoot their own feet.
I'm no expert by any means, just a realist and a guy measuring the odds, and compared to America's space program, NK has been pretty lucky up to this stage of the game.
Even to date, we have launch failures, we've just learned not to gloat and look like fools when it does happen.
I'm not saying it wasn't any combination of all those things, I'm just saying NK is more than likely suffering growing pains, especially when they press their people to produce when they aren't ready yet.
They promised to test one missile every week. If I was Trump I'd say go for it. They'd be completely out of missiles and have destroyed their country within a fortnight.
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2017, 06:45:50 AM
Honestly, I doubt it, NK has a completely isolated system. As much as it would be fun to keep swatting NK gnats out of the air, we can't take credit for NK's total incompetence. :biggrin:
I don't see any way that software could cause a fuel tank rupture.
Sounds more like a manufacturing flaw to me.
Quote from: je_freedom on April 17, 2017, 08:28:35 PM
I don't see any way that software could cause a fuel tank rupture.
Sounds more like a manufacturing flaw to me.
Yep, we had something similar, an O-ring seal.
Quote from: redbeard on April 15, 2017, 06:17:36 PM
It's not over yet over there. This latest missile attempt just fanned the fire! I think the short crazy fat guy is Dead man walking. Someone is going to take him out and I would put my money on China!
US Deploys Two More Aircraft Carriers Toward Korean Peninsula: YonhapAccording to a report by South Korea's primary news outlet, Yonhap, the Pentagon has directed a total of three US aircraft carriers toward the Korean Peninsula, citing a South Korean government source.
Yonhap reports that in addition to the CVN-70 Carl Vinson, which is expected to arrive off the South Korean coast on April 25, the CVN-76 Ronald Reagan - currently in home port in Yokosuka, Japan - and the CVN-68 Nimitz carrier group - currently undergoing final pre-deployment assessment, Composite Training Unit Exercise off Oregon - will enter the Sea of Japan next week. According to the senior government official. the US and South Korea are discussing joint drills, which will include the three aircraft carriers and other ships.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-17/us-deploys-two-more-aircraft-carriers-toward-korean-peninsula-yonhap
Quotehttp://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/pete-hoekstra-china-north-korea-message/2017/04/18/id/785036/
Threats of military action between the U.S. and North Korea are at a fever pitch, but that doesn't mean the two powers are headed to war, former Rep. Pete Hoekstra, who chaired the House Intelligence Committee, tells Newsmax TV.
And, in fact, China has let North Korean leader Kim Jong Un know that he has only two choices: continue your present path in pursuing a nuclear arsenal and face imminent death — or back off and preserve your cushy regime
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Sounds like he got the word from China. Is he really dumb enough to cross them?
Quote from: redbeard on April 18, 2017, 02:08:33 PM
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Sounds like he got the word from China. Is he really dumb enough to cross them?
If I remember correctly, they warned him a few days before the failed launch. So it appears that the little Fat fuck thinks he's better than his Chinese handlers.
Yeah, his time may be running out real quick. This is what happens to leftists that live in a bubble.
Quote from: Solar on April 18, 2017, 02:13:43 PM
If I remember correctly, they warned him a few days before the failed launch. So it appears that the little Fat fuck thinks he's better than his Chinese handlers.
Yeah, his time may be running out real quick. This is what happens to leftists that live in a bubble.
That will be the most fertilized grave site ever.
Quote from: s3779m on April 18, 2017, 02:41:17 PM
That will be the most fertilized grave site ever.
The death of the dinosaurs created the great pools of oil reserves. With North Korea's 4 million man army are we watching Earth history in the Making? The next great oil reserve ready for formation? It is a great thing to be able that our country can help replenish some of the natural resources we have used in the past! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: redbeard on April 18, 2017, 03:11:21 PM
The death of the dinosaurs created the great pools of oil reserves. With North Korea's 4 million man army are we watching Earth history in the Making? The next great oil reserve ready for formation? It is a great thing to be able that our country can help replenish some of the natural resources we have used in the past! :lol: :lol: :lol:
"FAT" burns long and hot. Kim needs to be reminded of that. :blink:
Quote from: s3779m on April 18, 2017, 02:41:17 PM
That will be the most fertilized grave site ever.
No doubt the most popular toilet in NK.
Quote from: redbeard on April 18, 2017, 03:11:21 PM
The death of the dinosaurs created the great pools of oil reserves. With North Korea's 4 million man army are we watching Earth history in the Making? The next great oil reserve ready for formation? It is a great thing to be able that our country can help replenish some of the natural resources we have used in the past! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Fat is used to make soap.
The soap companies were very helpful in WWII.
Everyone was told to save the bacon grease, etc.
left over from cooking.
Then, once a week, a truck would go around and
gather up all the cans of fat the ladies had collected.
Radio announcers would say, "It's Thursday!
Time for all you ladies to get your fat cans to the curb!"
From fat, they made glycerin.
From glycerin, they made nitroglycerin.
From nitroglycerin, they made smokeless powder.
(By mixing it with nitrocellulose.)
So maybe Kim Jong Un really could
increase North Korea's military power!