I have to say, I am sensing some very dark clouds on the horizon.  The warning signs are growing larger and larger with each passing day and I am asking myself, could we be heading for some very dark times for this nation come next election.  It appears that the Dems are fanning the fires of racism to provoke their constituents against their fellow Americans.  Who is dividing us?  Politicians who seek more power adn they see that they have no record to stand on come next election adn are now getting desparate.  Check out this article.
My next statement is uncharacteristic of me because, as a former intelligence officer, business executive, homeland security professional and now an associate dean, my hallmark has always been prudence and ensuring my words are measured. But I feel it needs to be said.

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...I wonder if 2008 is the last peaceful American presidential election I
will  have witnessed in my lifetime. I find myself asking, "To what lengths will
people go to ensure President Obama is reelected?"





Will President Obama step in and calm the waters, and if he doesn't, does
that beg the question of whether or not agitation to the point of violence is
the Democrats' strategy for victory in 2012?





I look around me and, like a geologist measuring
the warning signs of an impending volcanic eruption, I'm disturbed and
wondering  if anyone else is picking up on the signs of disaster...

http://www.rightface.us/forum/topics/guest-post-by-ron-miller-another-civil-war

Nobody cares enough for a Civil War to happen. The extremes could fight each other, but 98% of the country would sit around and watch, probably calling 911 because the noise was disturbing their viewing of American Idol.

Quote from: Tennenbaum on September 03, 2011, 08:04:05 PM
Nobody cares enough for a Civil War to happen. The extremes could fight each other, but 98% of the country would sit around and watch, probably calling 911 because the noise was disturbing their viewing of American Idol.

The point I am making is that these fires are being stoked by political leaders.  Claiming that American citizens (Tea Party)  want to lynch black people, I find those words very startling because they are coming from CONGRESSMEN and WOMEN, our so called leaders.  The vitriol is being ratched up in a very amplified manner.

Quote from: Tennenbaum on September 03, 2011, 08:04:05 PM
Nobody cares enough for a Civil War to happen. The extremes could fight each other, but 98% of the country would sit around and watch, probably calling 911 because the noise was disturbing their viewing of American Idol.

Not when it comes to race.

Quote from: Seawolf on September 03, 2011, 08:10:04 PM

The point I am making is that these fires are being stoked by political leaders.  Claiming that American citizens (Tea Party)  want to lynch black people, I find those words very startling because they are coming from CONGRESSMEN and WOMEN, our so called leaders.  The vitriol is being ratched up in a very amplified manner.

Yes, well it takes a lot of drama to get noticed in these days of 24/7 cable tv news, the blogosphere, and message boards. It's all PR.

I don't see anything coming from it. People are becoming desensitized to hyperbole.

If it happens, it will be the perpetrators burning down the very own neighborhoods.
The rest of us will watch in horror from our living rooms.

These people are opportunists, not organizers, they cannot build an army to venture beyond their slum filled streets, they will walk a few blocks, loot a local business and take their catch back home.

And these idiots wonder why businesses won't set up in their neighborhoods and the few that do have to charge a premium due to loss.

Quote from: ? on September 03, 2011, 08:10:24 PM
Not when it comes to race.

IN my lifetime I have never witnessed this sort of behavior coming from our so called leaders.  Many of my friends are sensing something is changing and they are right and it's not for the better.  Pause for a moment and notice that black unemployment is running in the 16 percent range.  Many are desparate for jobs and when times get really bad, it's easy to stoke these flames when people are trying to feed their families.

Quote from: ? on September 03, 2011, 08:10:24 PM
Not when it comes to race.

You think that this is enough of an issue to polarize people into actual combat? I don't.

Well, I would think that "a former intelligence officer, business executive, homeland security professional and now an associate dean" whose "hallmark has always been prudence and ensuring my words are measured" would do a better job of proof reading his post and would have caught the two times in the same sentence he misspelled the word "and" (adn).  ::)

I have a feeling you're none of the above! I think you are just a race baiter!

But, hey, that's just me!

-Dr Watt

Pepe and I have made this point in, let's say, another venue.  If members of certain communities were to begin systematic looting, then folks in our climes would use deadly force.  We would join together and go after them, systematically, devil take the hindmost.  Let us hope, speaking for our climes, that they do not start down that path.  It would literally be a dead end.

Quote from: Tennenbaum on September 03, 2011, 08:15:02 PM
You think that this is enough of an issue to polarize people into actual combat? I don't.

I think when you community is the one suffering the most in this dire economic crisis with rampant unemployment bad things can and usually do happen.  Take for instance flash mobs robbing stores.  It's becoming the craze and what is going to happen when someone gets shot?  There are also random flash mob violence happeing where innocent bystanders are becoming victims to random mob attacks.  Our society is changing and it for the worse.  Let's be honnest Tenn, you probably have never seen bad times like this.  I witnessed this under Carter except this is rapidly becoming worse then what we witnessed under Carter.  When you have to feed a family and you can not find a job, you start seeing society cracking under the pressure. 

Quote from: Berggeist on September 03, 2011, 08:17:55 PM
Pepe and I have made this point in, let's say, another venue.  If members of certain communities were to begin systematic looting, then folks in our climes would use deadly force.  We would join together and go after them, systematically, devil take the hindmost.  Let us hope, speaking for our climes, that they do not start down that path.  It would literally be a dead end.

Race war? That is tired.

I don't believe for a second that Obama would try to calm it down.... Obama while speaking to latin Americans refered to conservatives as "the enemy".... let's also not forget what happend in Kenya when Obamas cousin Raila Odinga lost....

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2008/10/raila-odinga-obama-campaigned-for-odinga-violence-after-loss/

Quote from: Dr_Watt on September 03, 2011, 08:17:38 PM
Well, I would think that "a former intelligence officer, business executive, homeland security professional and now an associate dean" whose "hallmark has always been prudence and ensuring my words are measured" would do a better job of proof reading his post and would have caught the two times in the same sentence he misspelled the word "and" (adn).  ::)

I have a feeling you're none of the above! I think you are just a race baiter!

But, hey, that's just me!

-Dr Watt

I'm a race baiter?  But then a Congressman and woman single out a group of Americans who have decided to exercise their 1st Ammendment and then tell their black communities that these Americans want to lynch you.  That is not race baiting?  What planet are you from because the Congressional Black Caucus has been spending this week calling Tea Party members racist who want to kill blacks or that they need to go straight to hell.  Are you going to tell me you have seen this sort of rhetoric before from political leaders?

Quote from: Seawolf on September 03, 2011, 08:19:28 PM

I think when you community is the one suffering the most in this dire economic crisis with rampant unemployment bad things can and usually do happen.  Take for instance flash mobs robbing stores.  It's becoming the craze and what is going to happen when someone gets shot?  There are also random flash mob violence happeing where innocent bystanders are becoming victims to random mob attacks.  Our society is changing and it for the worse.  Let's be honnest Tenn, you probably have never seen bad times like this.  I witnessed this under Carter except this is rapidly becoming worse then what we witnessed under Carter.  When you have to feed a family and you can not find a job, you start seeing society cracking under the pressure.

That is an uprising, not a civil war. A civil war requires two sides. I don't think that black and white is a viable candidate for that anymore. Even rich and poor doesn't seem particularly viable.

The flash mob thing is just societal pressure resulting in aimless violence. It doesn't have any political or economic goal.

We will never see what happened in the middle east happen here. At least not in the foreseeable future. People here, despite some economic woes, still have too much to lose, too many distractions.