Another Civil War possible?

Started by anothercw, May 15, 2019, 11:06:00 AM

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anothercw

https://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-II-Eric-Gurr/dp/1096813564

Thoughts on the likelikhood of a second civil war. I wrote this book based on research into Yugoslavia, Spain(1930s) and Greece after WW2.

anothercw

I'd be happy to answer any questions on how I came to my conclusions and how I crafted the book using historical context.

Solar

I bet you started this before Trump, right?
I'll play.
First off, the left won't fight, they need the govt to enforce laws to inflict their damage. Now, assuming we never got Trump, Cruz wasn't elected, Hillary began pushing the lefts agenda, then we would have been ripe for revolution.
OK, so war breaks out. First off, you need a military willing to fight for a Marxist govt. Not gonna happen, we have a voluntary military of people that grasp our Founders vision, they don't see a citizenry fighting for their Rights as the enemy, so right there, the left would be without arms, simply because they've been raised to see guns as inherently evil, a belief that guns attack people on their own, so they're afraid at the very sight of a gun, so they won't be fighting.

Take State by State, again, we out number the left, even city by city, the left only has a handful of big cities, so that gives us targets we can call siege on and starve them into surrender, especially when one considers libs very subsistence exists because of govt, they are not the producers, we are.
Oh, and our first targets would be the media which would fall at the threat of a gun, and when you consider their audience are sheep, they'd cave in a day when told "Resistance is Futile". :biggrin:

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anothercw

Well, you're not entirely wrong, I'll give you that.
And yep, the left is far outnumbered through most of the country.
But what about California?  I think CA and New England are going to be more difficult than you think.

In the middle of the country there is no path for the left to win. It just doesn't exist. In California, it does.

The trouble with the left and Civil Wars is that they generally divide themselves pretty quickly. That's what happened in Greece. The communists took over and the other 3 left leaning groups just gave up.

In Spain, the first thing the left did was burn down three convents. Not a good strategy for a nation that was largely Catholic.

But you are wrong about California. It will be easy for the left to take. Holding it is another issue.

The other thing you are wrong about is needing a military. Civil wars aren't fought with tanks and fighters. They are just as often (more actually) fought with rifles and pistols.

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You can add this to Solar post

People must remember the average Conservative has two or more guns.  The average Liberal has no guns.   Stop the food supply and water into the big cities in each state and the second civil war is over.  How many people in the big cities know how to get out of town if all main highway are block and the airport are shut down.   :lol:
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anothercw

Responding to Walkstall here.

Sheesh dude. Did you read the book?
What you described is the exact tactic the right uses to starve out the cities (in the book).

I don't want to give the whole thing away, but that's a large part of what happens.

walkstall

Quote from: anothercw on May 15, 2019, 12:00:21 PM
Responding to Walkstall here.

Sheesh dude. Did you read the book?
What you described is the exact tactic the right uses to starve out the cities (in the book).

I don't want to give the whole thing away, but that's a large part of what happens.


No I did not read your book.  As a Conservative I just used everyday common sense.  Us old people have been using common sense for over 8+ decades.  It scares the hell out of Lib's and the Left.  :lol:   
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Solar

Quote from: anothercw on May 15, 2019, 11:56:39 AM
Well, you're not entirely wrong, I'll give you that.
And yep, the left is far outnumbered through most of the country.
But what about California?  I think CA and New England are going to be more difficult than you think.

In the middle of the country there is no path for the left to win. It just doesn't exist. In California, it does.

The trouble with the left and Civil Wars is that they generally divide themselves pretty quickly. That's what happened in Greece. The communists took over and the other 3 left leaning groups just gave up.

In Spain, the first thing the left did was burn down three convents. Not a good strategy for a nation that was largely Catholic.

But you are wrong about California. It will be easy for the left to take. Holding it is another issue.

The other thing you are wrong about is needing a military. Civil wars aren't fought with tanks and fighters. They are just as often (more actually) fought with rifles and pistols.
:biggrin:
No, I am not wrong about Ca. I was born here more than 6 decades ago, and I assure you, the image the media gives you is far from reality. The only reason the left is in charge of Ca is two fold.
One, the GOP didn't fight back as the Dims began Gerrymandering, two, it is only the South and the Bay area, the rest of the State is still solid Conservative full of Militia.
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Quote from: anothercw on May 15, 2019, 12:00:21 PM
Responding to Walkstall here.

Sheesh dude. Did you read the book?
What you described is the exact tactic the right uses to starve out the cities (in the book).

I don't want to give the whole thing away, but that's a large part of what happens.
By the way, welcome to the forum. :cool:
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Quote from: anothercw on May 15, 2019, 11:23:16 AM
I'd be happy to answer any questions on how I came to my conclusions and how I crafted the book using historical context.
I think the bigger question is, what would be the trigger? For so long we've been complacent, the left has been making inroads for more than 60 years, had Hitlary won, AI think we'd be on the verge but she didn't, so what could possibly be the trigger?
Impeaching Trump, Senate going against the will of the people, forcing Trump to stop building the Wall? Whatever it is, it would have to be a big enough trigger for the people to stand up against the govt. I don't think the left is so stupid as to make that mistake.
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Realistically, I do not believe a civil war is a possibility and this thread should be in "Conspiracy".

That being said, liberals would have no chance. If one looks at how they live, they depend on goods and services they consistently fight against. They live in a dream world that does not exist without "the folks". If "the folks" stop delivering their desired goods and services they would only last a few days. Just one example. What would happen if truck drivers quit making deliveries to NYC?
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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on May 15, 2019, 12:59:38 PM
Realistically, I do not believe a civil war is a possibility and this thread should be in "Conspiracy".

That being said, liberals would have no chance. If one looks at how they live, they depend on goods and services they consistently fight against. They live in a dream world that does not exist without "the folks". If "the folks" stop delivering their desired goods and services they would only last a few days. Just one example. What would happen if truck drivers quit making deliveries to NYC?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Just imagine if they lost Internet, or we close Starbucks. Ohhh the Horror. :biggrin:
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Quote from: anothercw on May 15, 2019, 11:06:00 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-II-Eric-Gurr/dp/1096813564

Thoughts on the likelikhood of a second civil war. I wrote this book based on research into Yugoslavia, Spain(1930s) and Greece after WW2.
I don't think it's likely at all.  Except for a few urban areas on either coast, the Leftist/Marxists who might attempt an insurrection, do not have the power to even seize control of their own states.  Besides, most of them are lost if they get 50 miles outside of their cities and a lot of them don't know how to drive or own a car.  They don't own guns and they are really pretty helpless if you take away their phones an other electronics.  Have you ever seen how they scurry like rats in the dark when there's a massive blackout in one of their cities? Most the cities power supply come from rural areas that voted for Trump!

It really is a urban versus rural thing.

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Solar

Quote from: wally on May 15, 2019, 02:49:17 PM
I don't think it's likely at all.  Except for a few urban areas on either coast, the Leftist/Marxists who might attempt an insurrection, do not have the power to even seize control of their own states.  Besides, most of them are lost if they get 50 miles outside of their cities and a lot of them don't know how to drive or own a car.  They don't own guns and they are really pretty helpless if you take away their phones an other electronics.  Have you ever seen how they scurry like rats in the dark when there's a massive blackout in one of their cities? Most the cities power supply come from rural areas that voted for Trump!

It really is a urban versus rural thing.


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Purrrfect!! :thumbup:
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Quote from: Solar on May 15, 2019, 04:14:59 PM
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Purrrfect!! :thumbup:
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