You can't use Katrina as a yard stick. What was the success in a relatively small area of gun confiscation....thats right...and I know what I'm talking about...we tried taking guns off the streets for twenty five years in DC...didn't work after appox 1,000 search warrants.Now apply that to an area the size of the CONUS and you have an idea of the impossibility of said task. There are millions of household in the US which have Guns, many by retired and active duty cops,then there are the JUDGES, MAGISTRATES, SHERIFF's and PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS(active and RETIRED) who are armed out of necessity as putting criminals in jail makes you real un popular with them. If they are going to take everyone's guns away they are going to take away the cops' guns too and make some idiotic rule like Britain where you come in and draw your duty weapon from the Armory.Trust me on this....cops talk about what they would do if faced with this situation this all the time.Most will outright refuse and a lot would find a way to bollix the operation if "ordered" to do so.
I agree Billy, it was an anomaly. Husein wouldn't use local enforcement, he'd approach it with some other entity, say the IRS, considering the size of that monster.I just don't see it happening in our lifetime, but I do see it coming eventually.
Well the discussion has already begun in NY state. I think in the city it is really difficult to own a gun and if I am correct you have to house it at a gun storage facility. So if I am right then they have already started the process in a city the size of NY. No they do not go door to door but I bet that those who do not want to get into trouble with the law comply or do not own a gun even if they would like too. Over the last few years it is impossible to get a gun without some kind of registration when you get it. Go to a small town with the national guard and start taking guns and most would not be so crazy to try and fight to keep them. Word gets around and lots of people not wanting to get into a battle with the national guard would voluntarily turn them in. One step at a time and even those who would resist become less and less able as those around them give in, taking them out of the group who could resist the government. I work in NY state and some of the people up hear talked to police who would not want to undertake such a thing and some of these people would resist I am sure. But Germany had a military that was probably the best in the world at the time but the forces resisting them were just too much so that in time their ability to resist was not great enough to keep up the fight. If that military could be beaten down to rubble it is hard to imagine that the citizens of this country would be strong enough to resist the will of the federal government. The fact that they have the outrageous gall to even talk about taking away what is a fundamental right should be enough to enlighten everyone that the war against guns is well underway and in my mind we have already gone beyond the turning point. They have the political power and the media is nothing but their propaganda branch. I own quite a few guns but live in a small town where crime is not nonexistent but is fairly low. So I never understood the perspective that someone would want or need an AR or M16. I knew they must be fun to shoot but in my mind I never considered it something worth fighting about keeping. I was not going to support banning them and certainly not confiscating them but at the same time thought that they really did not need to have these guns. Well time has changed that view and if I had the cash right now I would own at least one and maybe several. maybe a 50 cal and one of those new M110's. I honestly can see there will come a day where those who own them will be glad that they bought them and those without them will curse that they did not have the foresight to realize they should have one in their home.
Idiots, or agenda?You know you live in a Country run by idiots if.... Being stripped of theability to defend yourself makes you "safe".
I think I can use Katrina as a yardstick......................along with Kent State, Waco, Ruby Ridge...................What shocked me about the post Katrina confiscation, was that it happened under the Bush administration. Where was the guy in the chain of command saying, "We can't do this"?Cops might refuse the order, but are a bunch of kids in the National Guard going to disobey a direct order?I'm not saying it will happen, but Obama scares me. He has no reverence for the constitution at all; and I also think that he would love to see a disarmed America.Remember too; the constitution isn't even taught in schools anymore. I don't think that most people under the age of 30, would even have a clue about the 2nd amendment........................particularly when Obama gets on TV and says that it's a right to go hunting.
Think the youngsters in Texas are the same as the youngsters in NY?
Kent State? Where it was found out years later that the National Guardsman WERE receiving gunfire from somewhere, probably from some leftists who wanted to create the incident that took place. Ruby Ridge? Where all that time and effort went into confiscating ONE (1) families guns at their isolated home. Waco? Where they had to call up military hardware, to wipe out a group of isolated believers. I don't think any of those incidents with perhaps the exception of Kent State - where the blue collar national guardsman cordially despised well-to-do leftist collegiates - will happen again. Because they were based upon some level of trust between the people and the government, in those far off days we assumed "our" government was in the "right". These days I don't even think the people who run the government, trust the government.And which people under thirty are you talking about. Remember when you talk about the average OWS type and you speak of some working Joe, your talking about two entirely different species. Think the youngsters in Texas are the same as the youngsters in NY?
My point was, the government does these illegal things, (Waco and Katrina were big time illegal), and no one gets prosecuted, no one goes to jail, nothing ever happens.Now we've got Obama; who apparently doesn't recognize any constitutional limits on government, and it doesn't look like anyone is interested in stopping him.