And So It Begins: Weapon Bans

Started by Solar, December 27, 2012, 04:13:36 PM

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All gun control will do is help Obama and his tit suckers help history not to repeat itselfs. Remember the battle of Athens, Tennesse
People sleep peacefully at night because there are a few tough men prepared to do violence on their behalf.

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A wise man uses it to scratch his balls.

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QuoteWhite House weighs broad gun-control agenda in wake of Newtown shootings
By Philip Rucker, Saturday, January 5, 1:57 PM

The White House is weighing a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation's gun violence than simply reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition, according to multiple people involved in the administration's discussions.

A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said.

Husein can expect severe backlash if he tries Executive Orders on this nonsense.
But I want to know when giving your son a weapon became illegal, it's always been a Right of Passage since the beginning of time.
Then there is the question of, what constitutes a school, Home schools would have to post signs making illegal to enter neighborhoods.
School grounds are one thing, but near schools?
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kramarat

Quote from: Solar on January 05, 2013, 09:49:09 PM
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Husein can expect severe backlash if he tries Executive Orders on this nonsense.
But I want to know when giving your son a weapon became illegal, it's always been a Right of Passage since the beginning of time.
Then there is the question of, what constitutes a school, Home schools would have to post signs making illegal to enter neighborhoods.
School grounds are one thing, but near schools?

I'm not gonna worry about it. Obama has been the catalyst behind the most expansive gun and ammo purchases in recent history. Nobody is turning them in...........................unless it's to upgrade. :wink:

Solar

Quote from: kramarat on January 05, 2013, 10:54:48 PM
I'm not gonna worry about it. Obama has been the catalyst behind the most expansive gun and ammo purchases in recent history. Nobody is turning them in...........................unless it's to upgrade. :wink:
It's not that as much as it is chipping away at the 2nd.
It's like owning a plane, but if they put enough restrictions on the air, what good is a plane?

Next they will have noise ordinances and make firing a weapon illegal because you might hurt someones hearing.

But your honor, I saved her life.
You also hurt the ears of those around you....30 days and confiscate his guns.

But no, I'm not worried.
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Quote from: Solar on January 06, 2013, 07:07:11 AM
It's not that as much as it is chipping away at the 2nd.
It's like owning a plane, but if they put enough restrictions on the air, what good is a plane?

Next they will have noise ordinances and make firing a weapon illegal because you might hurt someones hearing.

But your honor, I saved her life.
You also hurt the ears of those around you....30 days and confiscate his guns.

But no, I'm not worried.

I'm a little worried. What the hell would we do if Obama ordered door to door, house to house searches?

Obama is the culmination of decades of government creep. It's pretty scary when you stop and think about it. The constitution means nothing to him..................it's only a hindrance.

Solar

Quote from: kramarat on January 06, 2013, 07:16:39 AM
I'm a little worried. What the hell would we do if Obama ordered door to door, house to house searches?

Obama is the culmination of decades of government creep. It's pretty scary when you stop and think about it. The constitution means nothing to him..................it's only a hindrance.
That's years off from now, but it's the little ridiculous laws leading to that day which will make it easier for them to follow through on confiscation.

Example: You posted in jest that all libs should be sent to third world countries so as to appreciate the US more.
Some leftist court in the future uses that info to judge you and declares you a threat and mentally unstable, in turn taking your right to own a weapon.

We need to stop these ass holes at every turn, no matter how miniscule the move appears.
Of course we all agree the mentally ill shouldn't possess weapons, but determining the standard of mental illness is the big question.

You must be mentally ill, everyone knows it's impossible to round up a certain group and ship them off to another country....
See my point?
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JustKari

Quote from: Solar on January 05, 2013, 09:49:09 PM
Update:

Husein can expect severe backlash if he tries Executive Orders on this nonsense.
But I want to know when giving your son a weapon became illegal, it's always been a Right of Passage since the beginning of time.
Then there is the question of, what constitutes a school, Home schools would have to post signs making illegal to enter neighborhoods.
School grounds are one thing, but near schools?

Because you asked, I have to submit a form, even now, that says that guns are permitted on our school grounds.  According to what I have read from the homeschool defence league, if I don't submit that form, they could legally confiscate my guns because we live in a school zone.

Solar

Quote from: JustKari on January 06, 2013, 09:00:34 AM
Because you asked, I have to submit a form, even now, that says that guns are permitted on our school grounds.  According to what I have read from the homeschool defence league, if I don't submit that form, they could legally confiscate my guns because we live in a school zone.
Thank you for clarifying my point.

This is very scary, and if you didn't submit such a form, then anyone entering your home with a legal concealed carry would be subject to arrest as well as you for not informing them of the law, or displaying signs indicating you are an unprotected household/school.

This is that little chipping away that I was talking about.
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Quote from: Solar on January 06, 2013, 09:09:02 AM
Thank you for clarifying my point.

This is very scary, and if you didn't submit such a form, then anyone entering your home with a legal concealed carry would be subject to arrest as well as you for not informing them of the law, or displaying signs indicating you are an unprotected household/school.

This is that little chipping away that I was talking about.

Yes, exactly.

kramarat

A guy called into one of the radio programs a couple of weeks ago, that was part of the illegal confiscation of, (legal), firearms in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina..............................house to house searches.

In hindsight, he knows that what they were doing was wrong. At the time, however, he was just a guy in a uniform that was following orders. They gave no thought to the constitutionality of what they were doing. It is a condition that still exists.

Solar

Quote from: kramarat on January 06, 2013, 09:50:22 AM
A guy called into one of the radio programs a couple of weeks ago, that was part of the illegal confiscation of, (legal), firearms in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina..............................house to house searches.

In hindsight, he knows that what they were doing was wrong. At the time, however, he was just a guy in a uniform that was following orders. They gave no thought to the constitutionality of what they were doing. It is a condition that still exists.
Perfect example why we have to fight every step a lib takes, we need to educate constantly so this doesn't happen again.
If that had happened in my County, people would be dead, because most in my area wouldn't relinquish any weapons.
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Quote from: Solar on January 06, 2013, 10:05:34 AM
Perfect example why we have to fight every step a lib takes, we need to educate constantly so this doesn't happen again.
If that had happened in my County, people would be dead, because most in my area wouldn't relinquish any weapons.

Of course we have to fight. Problem is, the dead people in your county would be your neighbors.

If we learned anything in Waco, it's that they will bring more people and bigger guns.

I think that, (if anyone), Texas is reaching the point of putting the entire 2nd amendment to work. All states should be doing it.

No evil intent.......................but just in case.

The Second Amendment contains two clauses, the Militia Clause (A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State) and the Right to Arms Clause (the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed).

Solar

Quote from: kramarat on January 06, 2013, 10:13:56 AM
Of course we have to fight. Problem is, the dead people in your county would be your neighbors.

If we learned anything in Waco, it's that they will bring more people and bigger guns.

I think that, (if anyone), Texas is reaching the point of putting the entire 2nd amendment to work. All states should be doing it.

No evil intent.......................but just in case.

The Second Amendment contains two clauses, the Militia Clause (A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State) and the Right to Arms Clause (the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed).
Sadly tis true, but our Fore Fathers did the same, lesson learned.
And if it happened again, new people would learn that Govt can't cross that line.
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Quote from: kramarat on January 06, 2013, 07:16:39 AM
I'm a little worried. What the hell would we do if Obama ordered door to door, house to house searches?

Obama is the culmination of decades of government creep. It's pretty scary when you stop and think about it. The constitution means nothing to him..................it's only a hindrance.

How many cops you think would do that?.....I've been a professional law man and security consultant for almost 40 years and MOST of those I know in the profession, either active duty or retired would not do this.

Do you realize the logisitics of such an effort?

It would be impractical.

However, i think Obamao is drunk with power enough to think he could try something like this.

Billy
Evil operates best when it is disguised for what it truly is.

kramarat

Quote from: BILLY Defiant on January 06, 2013, 04:27:48 PM
How many cops you think would do that?.....I've been a professional law man and security consultant for almost 40 years and MOST of those I know in the profession, either active duty or retired would not do this.

Do you realize the logisitics of such an effort?

It would be impractical.

However, i think Obamao is drunk with power enough to think he could try something like this.

Billy


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