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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: PanamaSlim on August 21, 2017, 09:38:59 PM

Title: American Politics
Post by: PanamaSlim on August 21, 2017, 09:38:59 PM
Hello Everyone:  I am studying American Politics...I will just lurk observe for awhile most likely if you do nodt mind.

It all seems quite confusing to me.

I may have some questions later.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: taxed on August 21, 2017, 09:49:31 PM
Quote from: PanamaSlim on August 21, 2017, 09:38:59 PM
Hello Everyone:  I am studying American Politics...I will just lurk observe for awhile most likely if you do nodt mind.

It all seems quite confusing to me.

I may have some questions later.

We're going to need to see some ID.

Have you registered with the Anonymous Forum Visitors' Association yet?
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Solar on August 21, 2017, 10:05:07 PM
Quote from: PanamaSlim on August 21, 2017, 09:38:59 PM
Hello Everyone:  I am studying American Politics...I will just lurk observe for awhile most likely if you do nodt mind.

It all seems quite confusing to me.

I may have some questions later.
We not only study it, we live it, and it used to confuse the shit out of us, till we discovered both party's are leftist to the core.
We'll be glad to answer any questions.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: taxed on August 21, 2017, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 21, 2017, 10:05:07 PM
We not only study it, we live it, and it used to confuse the shit out of us, till we discovered both party's are leftist to the core.
We'll be glad to answer any questions.

That's pretty much it.  It's the people against the Marxists....
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: kdavis on August 23, 2017, 01:26:14 PM
Quote from: taxed on August 21, 2017, 10:05:51 PM
That's pretty much it.  It's the people against the Marxists....

Or is it the Marxists and the Nazi's?

In Jim Marrs book "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" he explains that most of the corporate mass media "is owned by the very same families and corporations who supported the Nazis before World War II."
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Solar on August 23, 2017, 01:33:11 PM
Quote from: kdavis on August 23, 2017, 01:26:14 PM
Or is it the Marxists and the Nazi's?

In Jim Marrs book "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" he explains that most of the corporate mass media "is owned by the very same families and corporations who supported the Nazis before World War II."
Anymore, there is no real distinction between the two or any number of leftist groups, all huddled under the Democrat big tent.
It all started with Marxism, morphed into Fabian Socialism, now simply called "Progressive". But they're essentially all Communists at heart.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Hoofer on August 23, 2017, 05:45:18 PM
Quote from: PanamaSlim on August 21, 2017, 09:38:59 PM
Hello Everyone:  I am studying American Politics...I will just lurk observe for awhile most likely if you do nodt mind.

It all seems quite confusing to me.

Study the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.   It's not at all confusing, and even more relevant today than when they penned it.

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I may have some questions later.

At least you'd have the right answers.  All this political party stuff - just going off in crazy, unconstitutional directions.  Not so much as "who is right and wrong" but what is *really* constitutional, and what is not.  A real conservative is a Constitutional Conservative... anything else doesn't belong here.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Walter Josh on August 23, 2017, 08:13:44 PM
Quote from: PanamaSlim on August 21, 2017, 09:38:59 PM
Hello Everyone:  I am studying American Politics...I will just lurk observe for awhile most likely if you do nodt mind.

It all seems quite confusing to me.

I may have some questions later.

Panama,
if you're looking for a political subject to explore, consider the following mystery, or is it a riddle?
Just how in tarnation did the GOP (Republicans) acquire the label of "our conservative party"?????
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Solar on August 23, 2017, 08:54:49 PM
Quote from: Walter Josh on August 23, 2017, 08:13:44 PM
Panama,
if you're looking for a political subject to explore, consider the following mystery, or is it a riddle?
Just how in tarnation did the GOP (Republicans) acquire the label of "our conservative party"?????
They did? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Hoofer on August 24, 2017, 05:01:29 AM
Quote from: Walter Josh on August 23, 2017, 08:13:44 PM
Panama,
if you're looking for a political subject to explore, consider the following mystery, or is it a riddle?
Just how in tarnation did the GOP (Republicans) acquire the label of "our conservative party"?????
Darn good question!!!   Maybe it's shorten version of anti-conservative party.   

Like the media does with "semi-automatic gun", becomes "automatic gun" ....  "Communist useful idiot" becomes "liberal" or "progressive"?
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: kdavis on August 24, 2017, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 23, 2017, 01:33:11 PM
Anymore, there is no real distinction between the two or any number of leftist groups, all huddled under the Democrat big tent.
It all started with Marxism, morphed into Fabian Socialism, now simply called "Progressive". But they're essentially all Communists at heart.

Thank you for enlightening me on that. How were they allowed to get control of the media?
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Possum on August 24, 2017, 01:03:17 PM
Quote from: kdavis on August 24, 2017, 12:10:36 PM
Thank you for enlightening me on that. How were they allowed to get control of the media?
Or did the media get hold of them? In other words did the lsm help to get "their" liberal and rinos elected?
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: supsalemgr on August 24, 2017, 01:06:27 PM
Quote from: kdavis on August 24, 2017, 12:10:36 PM
Thank you for enlightening me on that. How were they allowed to get control of the media?

First, this is not new. They have just come out of the closet. Notice, these organizations are based out NYC and Washington, hotbeds of liberalism. They went to leftists universities and this is the result.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: kdavis on August 24, 2017, 01:51:55 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 24, 2017, 01:06:27 PM
First, this is not new. They have just come out of the closet. Notice, these organizations are based out NYC and Washington, hotbeds of liberalism. They went to leftists universities and this is the result.

That makes sense however the owners should be able to steer their media companies in the direction they want it to go. The owners do not necessarily come from the liberal areas. It seems like conservatives in politics would want conservatives with money to control the media.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Possum on August 24, 2017, 02:20:49 PM
Quote from: kdavis on August 24, 2017, 01:51:55 PM
That makes sense however the owners should be able to steer their media companies in the direction they want it to go. The owners do not necessarily come from the liberal areas. It seems like conservatives in politics would want conservatives with money to control the media.
Maybe the owners are steering their companies where they want them to go.
http://fortune.com/2015/11/02/liberal-media/
Conservatives do not want their politicians to control the media, they want the media to tell the truth. The liberals do not want their politicians to control the media either, they want the media to control the politicians.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Solar on August 24, 2017, 02:24:54 PM
Quote from: kdavis on August 24, 2017, 12:10:36 PM
Thank you for enlightening me on that. How were they allowed to get control of the media?
The same way they've taken over major corporations, with Soros money through stockholders and leveraged buyouts.
Yes, the left will stop at nothing in their pursuit of total control.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Solar on August 24, 2017, 02:26:27 PM
Quote from: kdavis on August 24, 2017, 01:51:55 PM
That makes sense however the owners should be able to steer their media companies in the direction they want it to go. The owners do not necessarily come from the liberal areas. It seems like conservatives in politics would want conservatives with money to control the media.
It's not that simple. The left predominantly all of the media with the exception of News Corporation, the very people that push leftist RINO down our throats, which is why these Establishment RINO whores do as they're told and ignore the base.

This list comes via a bit of a conspiracy site, but the data is correct.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/who-owns-the-media-the-6-monolithic-corporations-that-control-almost-everything-we-watch-hear-and-read

Time Warner

Home Box Office (HBO)
Time Inc.
Turner Broadcasting System, Inc.
Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.
CW Network (partial ownership)
TMZ
New Line Cinema
Time Warner Cable
Cinemax
Cartoon Network
TBS
TNT
America Online
MapQuest
Moviefone
Castle Rock
Sports Illustrated
Fortune
Marie Claire
People Magazine

Walt Disney

ABC Television Network
Disney Publishing
ESPN Inc.
Disney Channel
SOAPnet
A&E
Lifetime
Buena Vista Home Entertainment
Buena Vista Theatrical Productions
Buena Vista Records
Disney Records
Hollywood Records
Miramax Films
Touchstone Pictures
Walt Disney Pictures
Pixar Animation Studios
Buena Vista Games
Hyperion Books

Viacom

Paramount Pictures
Paramount Home Entertainment
Black Entertainment Television (BET)
Comedy Central
Country Music Television (CMT)
Logo
MTV
MTV Canada
MTV2
Nick Magazine
Nick at Nite
Nick Jr.
Nickelodeon
Noggin
Spike TV
The Movie Channel
TV Land
VH1

News Corporation

Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
Fox Television Stations
The New York Post
Fox Searchlight Pictures
Beliefnet
Fox Business Network
Fox Kids Europe
Fox News Channel
Fox Sports Net
Fox Television Network
FX
My Network TV
MySpace
News Limited News
Phoenix InfoNews Channel
Phoenix Movies Channel
Sky PerfecTV
Speed Channel
STAR TV India
STAR TV Taiwan
STAR World
Times Higher Education Supplement Magazine
Times Literary Supplement Magazine
Times of London
20th Century Fox Home Entertainment
20th Century Fox International
20th Century Fox Studios
20th Century Fox Television
BSkyB
DIRECTV
The Wall Street Journal
Fox Broadcasting Company
Fox Interactive Media
FOXTEL
HarperCollins Publishers
The National Geographic Channel
National Rugby League
News Interactive
News Outdoor
Radio Veronica
ReganBooks
Sky Italia
Sky Radio Denmark
Sky Radio Germany
Sky Radio Netherlands
STAR
Zondervan


CBS Corporation

CBS News
CBS Sports
CBS Television Network
CNET
Showtime
TV.com
CBS Radio Inc. (130 stations)
CBS Consumer Products
CBS Outdoor
CW Network (50% ownership)
Infinity Broadcasting
Simon & Schuster (Pocket Books, Scribner)
Westwood One Radio Network

NBC Universal

Bravo
CNBC
NBC News
MSNBC
NBC Sports
NBC Television Network
Oxygen
SciFi Magazine
Syfy (Sci Fi Channel)
Telemundo
USA Network
Weather Channel
Focus Features
NBC Universal Television Distribution
NBC Universal Television Studio
Paxson Communications (partial ownership)
Trio
Universal Parks & Resorts
Universal Pictures
Universal Studio Home Video
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Solar on August 24, 2017, 02:28:26 PM
Quote from: s3779m on August 24, 2017, 02:20:49 PM
Maybe the owners are steering their companies where they want them to go.
http://fortune.com/2015/11/02/liberal-media/
Conservatives do not want their politicians to control the media, they want the media to tell the truth. The liberals do not want their politicians to control the media either, they want the media to control the politicians.

Spot on. From your link.

And the thing is, conservatives have a point. Study after study has shown that the mainstream media leans left, and that, as economists Tim Groseclose and Jeff Milyo have written, "an almost overwhelming fraction of journalists are liberal." The extent of this bias, of course, depends on what your definitions of liberal and conservative. And the media has other, arguably more important, biases: towards controversy and producing content that is profitable. But it is safe to say that the median journalist in America is to the left of the median American voter, and that this affects how the news is presented to the public.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Solar on August 24, 2017, 02:49:01 PM
Quote from: s3779m on August 24, 2017, 02:20:49 PM
Maybe the owners are steering their companies where they want them to go.
http://fortune.com/2015/11/02/liberal-media/
Conservatives do not want their politicians to control the media, they want the media to tell the truth. The liberals do not want their politicians to control the media either, they want the media to control the politicians.
Sorry, I accidentally bumped yours when I screwed up my own post.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: taxed on August 24, 2017, 10:28:23 PM
Quote from: kdavis on August 24, 2017, 01:51:55 PM
That makes sense however the owners should be able to steer their media companies in the direction they want it to go. The owners do not necessarily come from the liberal areas. It seems like conservatives in politics would want conservatives with money to control the media.

Can you give me an example of a cable news agency owned by conservatives?
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Possum on August 25, 2017, 12:01:22 AM
Quote from: taxed on August 24, 2017, 10:28:23 PM
Can you give me an example of a cable news agency owned by conservatives?
Well, except for the cable part, this one.  :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: kdavis on August 25, 2017, 04:19:58 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 24, 2017, 02:28:26 PM
Spot on. From your link.

And the thing is, conservatives have a point. Study after study has shown that the mainstream media leans left, and that, as economists Tim Groseclose and Jeff Milyo have written, "an almost overwhelming fraction of journalists are liberal." The extent of this bias, of course, depends on what your definitions of liberal and conservative. And the media has other, arguably more important, biases: towards controversy and producing content that is profitable. But it is safe to say that the median journalist in America is to the left of the median American voter, and that this affects how the news is presented to the public.

The article says that journalists consider their jobs to be prestigious. I heard recently however that the approval of the media is about as low as Congress around 10%. I don't see how they can consider that to be prestigious.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Solar on August 25, 2017, 05:02:28 PM
Quote from: kdavis on August 25, 2017, 04:19:58 PM
The article says that journalists consider their jobs to be prestigious. I heard recently however that the approval of the media is about as low as Congress around 10%. I don't see how they can consider that to be prestigious.
They're the bigger boil on a cows butt, so they think they carry more clout. :biggrin:
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: kdavis on August 28, 2017, 12:24:30 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 24, 2017, 01:06:27 PM
First, this is not new. They have just come out of the closet. Notice, these organizations are based out NYC and Washington, hotbeds of liberalism. They went to leftists universities and this is the result.

Scott Pelley did the CBS nightly news until recently and he is from Texas not the liberal areas and went to college there. While he was doing the news, they were at least as biased and anti-Trump as the other networks. That suggests that the owners have more clout then the journalists.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: supsalemgr on August 28, 2017, 12:48:10 PM
Quote from: kdavis on August 28, 2017, 12:24:30 PM
Scott Pelly did the CBS nightly news until recently and he is from Texas not the liberal areas and went to college there. While he was doing the news, they were at least as biased and anti-trump as the other networks. That suggests that the owners have more clout then the journalists.

What planet have you been living on if the bosses having more clout than the owners is a revelation?
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: taxed on August 28, 2017, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: kdavis on August 28, 2017, 12:24:30 PM
Scott Pelley did the CBS nightly news until recently and he is from Texas not the liberal areas and went to college there. While he was doing the news, they were at least as biased and anti-Trump as the other networks. That suggests that the owners have more clout then the journalists.

I had no idea!

I'm sending a message to Drudge on their tip line right now.....
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: kdavis on August 28, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
Quote from: taxed on August 28, 2017, 12:49:23 PM
I had no idea!

I'm sending a message to Drudge on their tip line right now.....

I actually replied to the wrong message. I should have replied to Solar's reply #17 (see above) which states the following:

"But it is safe to say that the median journalist in America is to the left of the median American voter, and that this affects how the news is presented to the public."

Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: taxed on August 28, 2017, 01:04:33 PM
Quote from: kdavis on August 28, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
I actually replied to the wrong message. I should have replied to Solar's reply #17 (see above) which states the following:

"But it is safe to say that the median journalist in America is to the left of the median American voter, and that this affects how the news is presented to the public."

They better be.  You have to be a Marxist to get a job with a news organization -- with the exception of a very, very few.  With that said, if we know their politics, then journalistic ethics are out the window anyway.  We shouldn't have any idea how a journalist leans.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: Solar on August 28, 2017, 01:39:53 PM
Quote from: kdavis on August 28, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
I actually replied to the wrong message. I should have replied to Solar's reply #17 (see above) which states the following:

"But it is safe to say that the median journalist in America is to the left of the median American voter, and that this affects how the news is presented to the public."
Taxed is correct, they only hire like minded leftists.
Title: Re: American Politics
Post by: walkstall on August 28, 2017, 01:57:16 PM
Quote from: taxed on August 28, 2017, 01:04:33 PM
They better be.  You have to be a Marxist to get a job with a news organization -- with the exception of a very, very few.  With that said, if we know their politics, then journalistic ethics are out the window anyway.  We shouldn't have any idea how a journalist leans.

They are like judges all you have to do is see how they perform in their jobs.