I just read an article about thriving for american dream and how it is percieved from another point of view. It leaves me stunned how many people believe in a big "american dream" but at the same time they let themselves be ruled by big corporations. People do not think about how much corporations rule their life. Only after they realize that they are not free until they see the big picture they have to be sleep in order to achieve american dream.
This is not just a dream, it should be a way of life. a way of freedom.
What do you guys think would be corporations thriving for if they announce "american dream" in their advertising campaigns.
you can read the full article at
http://www.superbious.com/Political/article_160_Waking-Up-From-the-American-Dream-The-Reality-of-Corporatocracy.html (http://www.superbious.com/Political/article_160_Waking-Up-From-the-American-Dream-The-Reality-of-Corporatocracy.html)
Oh great, a one topic LIBertarian, Big Evil Corporations!!!
Son, you have no idea just how infinitesimal and myopic your view of the big picture really is.
You focus on one tiny aspect of a broken leg our culture and want to amputate.
This needs moved to Financial forum.
It is interesting that so many people do not understand the purpose of corporations. They exist to provide a return to their shareholders. They are not entitlement organizations. In order to deliver the desired return they must deliver goods and services that are desired in the marketplace. How they do this setermines how they are perceived as corporate citizens as PR is a big piece of the equation of success. McDonald's is not bad because they make huge profits. They are delivering a desired product efficiently and profitably.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 13, 2013, 07:51:06 AM
It is interesting that so many people do not understand the purpose of corporations. They exist to provide a return to their shareholders. They are not entitlement organizations. In order to deliver the desired return they must deliver goods and services that are desired in the marketplace. How they do this setermines how they are perceived as corporate citizens as PR is a big piece of the equation of success. McDonald's is not bad because they make huge profits. They are delivering a desired product efficiently and profitably.
In their view, big equates to evil, which is a liberal ploy to destroy free mkt principles.
In addition it is the Govt interfering in the free mkt like that of a symbiotic leach/host relationship, and the answer the LIBertarian comes up with, is more Governmental interference.
Yeah, that should work out well. :rolleyes:
Henry Ford is a perfect example of why corporations work to the benefit of the people, he created a product cheaply, and efficiently.
Granted, he killed off some competition, but he improved the Mkt overall.
From Adventuremkt's link:
QuoteMcDonalds burger is pretty cheap, compared to the cost McDonalds pays to produce it, McDonalds profits are much more than what would be considered "fair."
Translation: Marxist ideals...
Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2013, 08:09:32 AM
From Adventuremkt's link:
Translation: Marxist ideals...
"Fair" is a four letter word!
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 13, 2013, 10:01:07 AM
"Fair" is a four letter word!
Yep, anymore the only ones dictating fairness is the left, and we see just how well that's working out.
Quote from: adventuremrkt on April 13, 2013, 06:38:38 AM
I just read an article about thriving for american dream and how it is percieved from another point of view. It leaves me stunned how many people believe in a big "american dream" but at the same time they let themselves be ruled by big corporations. People do not think about how much corporations rule their life. Only after they realize that they are not free until they see the big picture they have to be sleep in order to achieve american dream.
This is not just a dream, it should be a way of life. a way of freedom.
What do you guys think would be corporations thriving for if they announce "american dream" in their advertising campaigns.
you can read the full article at
http://www.superbious.com/Political/article_160_Waking-Up-From-the-American-Dream-The-Reality-of-Corporatocracy.html (http://www.superbious.com/Political/article_160_Waking-Up-From-the-American-Dream-The-Reality-of-Corporatocracy.html)
What in the hell are you talking about?
Quote from: taxed on April 13, 2013, 05:39:45 PM
What in the hell are you talking about?
He's buying the Marxist dogma.
Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2013, 05:44:08 PM
He's buying the Marxist dogma.
He's swallowing it up and not even chewing...
Quote from: taxed on April 13, 2013, 06:07:38 PM
He's swallowing it up and not even chewing...
I can appreciate his passion, though I wish they wouldn't be so myopic in their efforts and try and understand the topic in an more in depth way.
They glom onto Libertarianism without understanding what it's all about, which tends to piss of true Libertarians and water down it's true meaning.
QuoteKarl Marx predicted that while such a system may be successful temporarily, corporate greed would eventually turn businesses into mere profit-seeking institutions ignoring the welfare of the consumer and the worker while pushing smaller "capitalists" (i.e. business owners) into the working class.
I don't know many libertarians who would agree with this!
Nor do I know any who would consider the US economic system a free market.
Quote from: TowardLiberty on April 14, 2013, 08:29:00 AM
I don't know many libertarians who would agree with this!
Nor do I know any who would consider the US economic system a free market.
Which is the point, he claims Libertarian status, but has no idea what a Libertarian is.
Quote from: Solar on April 14, 2013, 09:05:21 AM
Which is the point, he claims Libertarian status, but has no idea what a Libertarian is.
I guess this was a drive by...
Quote from: taxed on April 15, 2013, 08:03:47 PM
I guess this was a drive by...
I don't think that was his plan. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on April 15, 2013, 08:14:17 PM
I don't think that was his plan. :biggrin:
He forgot to roll down the window....
Quote from: taxed on April 15, 2013, 11:27:21 PM
He forgot to roll down the window....
Now that's just embarrassing, considering it was a convertible. :laugh:
Anyone that thinks the US is still a free market system, is sadly mistaken.
The article blames corporations, but almost by accident, admits that the fault lies with crooked politicians. I can choose whether or not to buy something from a corporation; I don't have that luxury with the crap that comes from our elected politicians. :sad:
Quote from: Solar on April 16, 2013, 05:51:14 AM
Now that's just embarrassing, considering it was a convertible. :laugh:
The back window was up... he was in his child seat...
Quote from: kramarat on April 16, 2013, 05:58:21 AM
Anyone that thinks the US is still a free market system, is sadly mistaken.
The article blames corporations, but almost by accident, admits that the fault lies with crooked politicians. I can choose whether or not to buy something from a corporation; I don't have that luxury with the crap that comes from our elected politicians. :sad:
Its all so damn hypocratic it makes me want to puke, they scream and hate private corporations while at the same time support government support and protection of certain corporations.
That article is the equivalent of a childs comprehension of economy.
Quote from: Mountainshield on April 20, 2013, 06:00:00 AM
Its all so damn hypocratic it makes me want to puke, they scream and hate private corporations while at the same time support government support and protection of certain corporations.
That article is the equivalent of a childs comprehension of economy.
It's pretty sickening. The left loves to hate corporations, and say that they have bought Washington....and that's the end of it. As if politicians themselves are not to blame. In the meantime, their hero in chief is one of the biggest corporate owned whores that ever hit the white house. :confused:
Shoot; I just realized that white house is a racist term. :sad:
Quote from: taxed on April 16, 2013, 05:37:55 PM
The back window was up... he was in his child seat...
Created illusion of being in control, and pretending to understand how the system works, much in the way of the car he is supposedly driving, which too, is an illusion.
His post is the result of watching too many Ted Turner, Captain Planet cartoons.