I un-installed Firefox, and I'm posting this using the Opera browser. It trails behind Chrome, IE, and Firefox in market share, but has steady growth, and has over 200mm users, which ain't too shabby. They've been around for a while, and ride Chrome's coattails with the Blink engine. They aligned with Chrome's browser technology, and after this Firefox clusterf*, I'd expect them to get a little growth spurt.
So far, it works OK. Here's their site: http://www.opera.com/ (http://www.opera.com/)
I downloaded Chromium and it fucked up everything, just as if it had a virus attached, I may have to do a rollback to fix the damage it did.
I'll give Opera another shot, tried it last year and didn't care for it.
Quote from: taxed on April 04, 2014, 11:50:11 AM
I un-installed Firefox, and I'm posting this using the Opera browser. It trails behind Chrome, IE, and Firefox in market share, but has steady growth, and has over 200mm users, which ain't too shabby. They've been around for a while, and ride Chrome's coattails with the Blink engine. They aligned with Chrome's browser technology, and after this Firefox clusterf*, I'd expect them to get a little growth spurt.
So far, it works OK. Here's their site: http://www.opera.com/ (http://www.opera.com/)
I've been looking for an alternative for a while now, not because of this ridiculous queers-are-utterly-intolerant BS, but because I've never been a Firefox fan, and I'm less than thrilled with the nose-diving performance of successive Chrome upgrades. I run Chrome on three different machines right now; one runs XP Pro, one Win7 and one Win8. On all three, Chrome is fast becoming the top challenger (to the current champ, Avast) for the title of Penultimate Resource Hog. Running the latest version of Chrome is the hard-drive equivalent of an Olympic decathlon. I haven't seen smoke yet, but it wouldn't surprise me.
This graphic from StatCounter shows some pretty strong trending in browser usage (though Opera appears to be, uh, sorta lounging down there at around 1-2%...), especially the upswings in Chrome, Safari, and other mobile browsers, to the obvious catastrophic (and oh-so-richly deserved) detriment of IE and, to a lesser extent, to Firefox, which has been falling in market share for a while now.
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1103.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg463%2Ftbone0106%2FBrowserUsage_zps5e2a6d0f.png&hash=40cdb11eddfbf27277c2208373ff92a65fc5a213) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/tbone0106/media/BrowserUsage_zps5e2a6d0f.png.html)
It will be interesting to see how the trends on this graphic change (or don't) in coming months. In any case, I believe I'll do my part and give Opera a whirl also.
Quote from: TboneAgain on April 04, 2014, 01:16:21 PM
I've been looking for an alternative for a while now, not because of this ridiculous queers-are-utterly-intolerant BS, but because I've never been a Firefox fan, and I'm less than thrilled with the nose-diving performance of successive Chrome upgrades. I run Chrome on three different machines right now; one runs XP Pro, one Win7 and one Win8. On all three, Chrome is fast becoming the top challenger (to the current champ, Avast) for the title of Penultimate Resource Hog. Running the latest version of Chrome is the hard-drive equivalent of an Olympic decathlon. I haven't seen smoke yet, but it wouldn't surprise me.
This graphic from StatCounter shows some pretty strong trending in browser usage (though Opera appears to be, uh, sorta lounging down there at around 1-2%...), especially the upswings in Chrome, Safari, and other mobile browsers, to the obvious catastrophic (and oh-so-richly deserved) detriment of IE and, to a lesser extent, to Firefox, which has been falling in market share for a while now.
It will be interesting to see how the trends on this graphic change (or don't) in coming months. In any case, I believe I'll do my part and give Opera a whirl also.
Yeah, it pretty much is the viable choice at this point. Chrome works fine on my machine, but I don't like using them. Opera has its quirks so far, but I'm willing to use through those while they improve. Building and bringing a new browser to market is too much of an endeavor. Chrome is an anomaly.
I didn't go for Chrome. It sure was heavily promoted. Actually to the point of seeming coercive. I just figured it would be all about connectivity -- to Google.
I have IE8 on this Win7 PC, but have to go into "programs" to launch it. On the taskbar is Firefox, Opera, and Avast. I use Avast for email.
Sorry to hear Firefox is having problems. Thanks for the heads up.
My Opera was acting up, so I did an uninstall reinstall and the result was
an Opera nothing like the previous one. Oh, I also have an Opera Developer copy. The new Opera looks something like that. I lost all my bookmarks doing the uninstall.
So, browser wars continue.
I am told the typical web page contains 96 https, meaning 96 trips to and from the ads and various hangers on, such as data miners, profilers, usage monitors,
all that stuff. I am supposed to have security, but judging from the ads I get after visiting around, there is no way I am keeping them at bay.
I hope Mozilla survives, That foundation served a good purpose.
Quote from: red_dirt on April 04, 2014, 02:52:55 PM
I didn't go for Chrome. It sure was heavily promoted. Actually to the point of seeming coercive. I just figured it would be all about connectivity -- to Google.
I have IE8 on this Win7 PC, but have to go into "programs" to launch it. On the taskbar is Firefox, Opera, and Avast. I use Avast for email.
Sorry to hear Firefox is having problems. Thanks for the heads up.
My Opera was acting up, so I did an uninstall reinstall and the result was
an Opera nothing like the previous one. Oh, I also have an Opera Developer copy. The new Opera looks something like that. I lost all my bookmarks doing the uninstall.
So, browser wars continue.
I am told the typical web page contains 96 https, meaning 96 trips to and from the ads and various hangers on, such as data miners, profilers, usage monitors,
all that stuff. I am supposed to have security, but judging from the ads I get after visiting around, there is no way I am keeping them at bay.
I hope Mozilla survives, That foundation served a good purpose.
I hope they rot in hell.
I'm out of the loop on that one. Right now looking
to see what is going on. Hadn't heard about it.
I think of Mozilla as a privacy advocate, with a lot
of add ons such as script blocker.
I'll find out what the controversy is soon.
Quote from: red_dirt on April 04, 2014, 03:00:08 PM
I'm out of the loop on that one. Right now looking
to see what is going on. Hadn't heard about it.
I think of Mozilla as a privacy advocate, with a lot
of add ons such as script blocker.
I'll find out what the controversy is soon.
As long as it's their privacy that's not being invaded.
I believe they crossed the line on this one, seeing how they claim to protect free speech, as long as it doesn't disagree with their views.
Quote from: Solar on April 04, 2014, 01:08:41 PM
I downloaded Chromium and it fucked up everything, just as if it had a virus attached, I may have to do a rollback to fix the damage it did.
Damn!
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I'll give Opera another shot, tried it last year and didn't care for it.
It's only day 1 for me, but I actually really like it so far. They have a nice extensions directory, and it loads and renders smoothly. Tomorrow may be different, of course.
I'm trusting these guys will gain market share and continue with improvements.
Quote from: taxed on April 04, 2014, 06:23:53 PM
Damn!
It's only day 1 for me, but I actually really like it so far. They have a nice extensions directory, and it loads and renders smoothly. Tomorrow may be different, of course.
I'm trusting these guys will gain market share and continue with improvements.
Probably a big boost, since Mozilla pulled this shit, and it's safe to say those that didn't have Chrome, was because they don't trust google, so they'll be looking for an alternative.
I use Chrome for Admin, so I don't have to log out and log back in all the time, but honestly, I hate it other than it's still a fast browser.
I know how to pick 'em!
http://beta.slashdot.org/story/197583 (http://beta.slashdot.org/story/197583)
Quote from: taxed on April 04, 2014, 09:57:56 PM
I know how to pick 'em!
http://beta.slashdot.org/story/197583 (http://beta.slashdot.org/story/197583)
Word! :wink:
I am no fan of Chrome either, but I found it pretty good if you do the following:
1. stay logged off of the Google account
2. Install NoScript, AdBlockPlus, DoNotTrack, and CsFire extensions. No popups, no adds, and no tracking for the most part.
Thanks for that. I just unistalled Chromium after a two day run.
I was under the impression it is an open source version of Chrome.
Very fast.
When I ran my usual malware scan today, there were 193 items, about
half designated "Google Chrome." I thought the two were separate.
I'll look into those add ons.
I might go the Richard Stallman way and just run wget for web browsing.
Kidding, but if I don't see any evidence of Opera moving forward with support on my OS, then I guess I'm stuck with Chrome. Opera said they are planning new releases, and I'm not so sure about that.
Five free browsers (recommended by Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit)....
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-free-alternative-web-browsers-for-windows/ (http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-free-alternative-web-browsers-for-windows/)
As I write this, I'm using SRWare Iron. I'd say I can't tell it from Google Chrome, but I can -- it's faster and my hard drive isn't undergoing its usual heart stress test. It should look like Chrome actually. It's based on the same Chromium open source software. Check it out! (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php)
Quote from: TboneAgain on April 06, 2014, 07:53:39 PM
As I write this, I'm using SRWare Iron. I'd say I can't tell it from Google Chrome, but I can -- it's faster and my hard drive isn't undergoing its usual heart stress test. It should look like Chrome actually. It's based on the same Chromium open source software. Check it out! (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php)
I'm on it too.....
It does seem fast as hell.... hmmm...
I read up on it a little bit. They rewrote a lot of the Chrome code, so it is literally Chrome with all the rendering and good stuff, without the spyware crap. Wow. Hands down the best browsing experience I've ever had. The speed is incredibly faster.
Quote from: taxed on April 06, 2014, 09:00:33 PM
I'm on it too.....
It does seem fast as hell.... hmmm...
One nice thing -- I was able to transfer my bookmarks from Google Chrome to Iron with just a few clicks, something the Windows version of Opera just wouldn't do. I don't know about syncing them yet, still digging on that. (That is one damn nice thing about Chrome.) Also, Iron doesn't have Chrome's built-in .pdf reader. I'm using the Foxit Reader extension and it seems to work perfectly.
Quote from: TboneAgain on April 06, 2014, 09:31:27 PM
One nice thing -- I was able to transfer my bookmarks from Google Chrome to Iron with just a few clicks, something the Windows version of Opera just wouldn't do. I don't know about syncing them yet, still digging on that. (That is one damn nice thing about Chrome.) Also, Iron doesn't have Chrome's built-in .pdf reader. I'm using the Foxit Reader extension and it seems to work perfectly.
Yeah, I can't tell if I'm using Chrome or Iron, except for the speed.
I deleted Chromium yesterday and dumped 198 tracking items with a Spyware Blaster scan. Then tonight, just for the heck of it, I ran a MalwareBytes Pro full scan and dumped another 200 tracking bugs. So, that's a total of 400 adware items after about a hour with Chromium, which is supposed to be an open
source engine that Chrome is based on. I can only assume all those trackers are put on during installation and with the initialization of the program.
I would to hell have never looked at this thread.
I really don't give a grand F about what some Fairy is doing at Mozilla...In fact, if I have to trouble myself with all what the homos are doing, I might as well kick it in now and save the trouble. Waterfox = installed, run two days, uninstalled on account of repeated crashes. Chromium = installed, run two hours, uninstalled on account of 190 Chrome logos turning up on SuperSpyWare scan after two hours of running. Next day, deep scan on all drives turns up another 198 items.
That's what I get.
Quote from: red_dirt on April 06, 2014, 11:51:55 PM
I deleted Chromium yesterday and dumped 198 tracking items with a Spyware Blaster scan. Then tonight, just for the heck of it, I ran a MalwareBytes Pro full scan and dumped another 200 tracking bugs. So, that's a total of 400 adware items after about a hour with Chromium, which is supposed to be an open
source engine that Chrome is based on. I can only assume all those trackers are put on during installation and with the initialization of the program.
That's a good reason not to use Chrome (the same as Chromium) or Firefox.
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I would to hell have never looked at this thread.
I really don't give a grand F about what some Fairy is doing at Mozilla...In fact, if I have to trouble myself with all what the homos are doing, I might as well kick it in now and save the trouble. Waterfox = installed, run two days, uninstalled on account of repeated crashes. Chromium = installed, run two hours, uninstalled on account of 190 Chrome logos turning up on SuperSpyWare scan after two hours of running. Next day, deep scan on all drives turns up another 198 items.
That's what I get.
It's not what some fairy did at Mozilla. Not sure what you're talking about.
What they did is very disturbing and I really would like to show my distaste by using another browser but so far I do not see as any of those that were suggested as a good alternative. All these so called activists for a more free society seem to be some of the most intolerant people imaginable. And it is not because I would support the group that this guy did because I think that all the legal protections given for a married couple should be given to a gay couple as well. I do not think that it should be the equivalent to the religious aspects of a marriage. For me those two issue are separate.
Every day I get more and more upset with the rapid decline in our freedoms all in the name ironically of more freedom.
Quote from: raptor5618 on April 07, 2014, 08:49:58 AM
What they did is very disturbing and I really would like to show my distaste by using another browser but so far I do not see as any of those that were suggested as a good alternative. All these so called activists for a more free society seem to be some of the most intolerant people imaginable. And it is not because I would support the group that this guy did because I think that all the legal protections given for a married couple should be given to a gay couple as well. I do not think that it should be the equivalent to the religious aspects of a marriage. For me those two issue are separate.
Every day I get more and more upset with the rapid decline in our freedoms all in the name ironically of more freedom.
Then you haven't tried the Iron browser. Best one I've ever had.
Quote from: taxed on April 07, 2014, 12:38:38 PM
Then you haven't tried the Iron browser. Best one I've ever had.
Works just like Chrome, only bare bones by comparison, something I prefer.
Now I just have to transfer bookmarks and Firefox is history.
Stupid fags don't realize just how far back they've pushed their progress, so much so, that even those that supported them are pushing back.