Will Trump be able to work better with Speaker Pelosi?

Started by ldub23, April 29, 2017, 05:24:30 AM

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Solar

Quote from: ldub23 on April 29, 2017, 04:17:50 PM
Illusion? Didnt reps just  blink once again on a gvt shutdown? Though i suppose they would cower in fear if there were  only  3 democrats  in congress they threatened a shutdown. Lets also not forget the rep party was decimated  in 2006 and  08 but had a huge  victory  in 2010. I dont think its hard to imagine dems winning 35-40 house seats  in 2018 when there will be no reason for a rep to bother to vote unless the pig Ryan gets off his ass and does something.
First off, that so called fear, is all theater, they pretend to be scared so they have an excuse to spend our tax dollars.
Yeah, they actually think we don't notice that they're nothing but Dims with an (R) next to their name.
As to your stats, there is a lot you don't understand about the details.
We TEA, gave the GOP new members in 2010, 2014, in fact, what you claim to be nothing more than a cycle of flipping power, was actually unprecedented. We not only gave the GOP new members and more power, we kneecapped the Dim party and stole more than 1000 Legislative seats across the country, completely draining their well of new membership.

No, that wasn't a simple changing of the guard, this was a historical gutting of one party. The Dim party is dead for an entire generation.
Why do we need a Dim party, when the GOP'e is already further left than was the 60s Dim party?
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Well, Ryan is a limp wristed moderate in a big girls blouse. He's an appallingly impotent majority leader and needs to be replaced. With that said he's still better than Nancy Pelosi. She's a nasty vindictive far left ideologue who might have onset dementia.

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Quote from: Solar on April 29, 2017, 08:20:45 AM
Nah, even Ryan can't resuscitate the Dim party, they're done for an entire generation.

The last time the Republicans had a larger lead in the House was in the 1920s.
And look what happened in the 1930s.
We should NEVER be complacent!

Currently, Ohio's delegation is 12 Rs and 4 Dims,
but Kasich (he's still Governor, darn it!)
is trying to change the way Ohio's districts are drawn
to give the Dims a better shot.
So don't think we'll automatically keep the House.

RINOs serve the ruling clique, the puppet masters,
not their party or their voters.
The two parties are like two horses owned by the same owner.
It makes little difference which one wins.

But when a maverick like Trump wins,
both the Dims and the RINOs team up to try to stop him,
just like Ryan and Pelosi are doing.

Today's Dim leaders ARE true dim bulbs.
But an entire generation of voters
is now being trained by the government schools
to be even more stupid than Fauxcahontas and Dinosaur Bernie!
If we become complacent, they win!
Here are the 10 RINOs who voted to impeach Trump on Jan. 13, 2021 - NEVER forget!
WY  Liz Cheney      SC 7  Tom Rice             WA 4  Dan Newhouse    IL 16  Adam Kinzinger    OH 16  Anthony Gonzalez
MI 6  Fred Upton    WA 3  Jaime Herrera Beutler    MI 3  Peter Meijer       NY 24  John Katko       CA 21  David Valadao

Solar

Quote from: je_freedom on April 29, 2017, 08:19:52 PM
The last time the Republicans had a larger lead in the House was in the 1920s.
And look what happened in the 1930s.
We should NEVER be complacent!

Currently, Ohio's delegation is 12 Rs and 4 Dims,
but Kasich (he's still Governor, darn it!)
is trying to change the way Ohio's districts are drawn
to give the Dims a better shot.
So don't think we'll automatically keep the House.

RINOs serve the ruling clique, the puppet masters,
not their party or their voters.
The two parties are like two horses owned by the same owner.
It makes little difference which one wins.

But when a maverick like Trump wins,
both the Dims and the RINOs team up to try to stop him,
just like Ryan and Pelosi are doing.

Today's Dim leaders ARE true dim bulbs.
But an entire generation of voters
is now being trained by the government schools
to be even more stupid than Fauxcahontas and Dinosaur Bernie!
If we become complacent, they win!
Why is it people can't seem to understand the simple fact that the Dim party is not returning to power for an entire generation?
But as I said, it matters not, because if we can't purge the leftists from the GOP, its over!
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ldub23

Quote from: Solar on April 29, 2017, 09:06:19 PM
Why is it people can't seem to understand the simple fact that the Dim party is not returning to power for an entire generation?
But as I said, it matters not, because if we can't purge the leftists from the GOP, its over!

I guess we will find out next Nov. If Ryan cant work with Trump on taxes and healthcare then 35-40 house seats lost might be conservative. Its baffling how reps simply cant pass conservative legislation.

Possum

Quote from: ldub23 on April 30, 2017, 04:35:59 AM
I guess we will find out next Nov. If Ryan cant work with Trump on taxes and healthcare then 35-40 house seats lost might be conservative. Its baffling how reps simply cant pass conservative legislation.
I guess thats one way of looking at it. I saw the rino Ryan doing everything he could to get that healthcare bill passed, Imho, conservatives did Trump a favor by NOT passing a bad bill. Don't assume Trump had coattails which helped the republicans gain control of congress, he didn't, and it does not look as if he will be able to help anyone this next election either, I dont even think he can help out Ryan and he's been kissing butt from day one. I have a bigger worry that Trump will do for the republicans what obama did for the democrats. For this reason I see the need to back the tea movement and not necessarily Trump.

Solar

Quote from: ldub23 on April 30, 2017, 04:35:59 AM
I guess we will find out next Nov. If Ryan cant work with Trump on taxes and healthcare then 35-40 house seats lost might be conservative. Its baffling how reps simply cant pass conservative legislation.
Ryan and Trump, both want socialized HC, the only reason they don't have a Bill is because of Conservatives and the GOP constituency.
In spite of what you hear, the country doesn't want govt involved.
If Trump gets his HC Bill, you can bet the only people leaving Congress will be Establishment leftist hacks.
RINO are not the beneficiaries of the GOP winning, no, it was TEA, Conservatives sweeping the nation to clean out govt and we're by no means finished kicking these scum out of office.
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