Just curious, was the FBI looking at old college entrance exams and saw irregularities, say Obozo or AOC?
Just asking, because they did state, they stumbled across the scam: "because it was uncovered by FBI agents there working an unrelated case."
Federal prosecutors in Boston on Tuesday charged 50 people, including the actresses Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin, in the largest college admissions cheating scam ever prosecuted in the United States.
Authorities say the operation, dubbed Varsity Blues, uncovered 33 parents described by US Attorney Andrew Lelling as a "catalog of wealth and privilege" who collectively paid $25 million to a college admissions counselor named William Singer, who pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate in an investigation into what Lelling called the "widening corruption of elite college admissions."
In exchange for the money, Singer allegedly bribed college officials, coaches and college entrance exam administrators, who then helped students secure admissions "not on their merits but through fraud," Lelling said.
Officials say 13 people were arrested by the FBI in Los Angeles -- including the actresses, who are in custody without incident.
In some cases, authorities say Singer arranged for a student to take the SAT individually with a proctor he had bribed in Texas or California. In other cases, Singer allegedly bribed coaches to establish fake credentials designating students as recruited athletes even when those students did not play the sport in question.
In one instance highlighted by federal prosecutors, it is alleged that the head women's soccer coach at Yale was paid $400,000 to accept a student even though the applicant did not play soccer. The parents of that student had allegedly paid Singer $1.2 million.
"Today's arrest should be a warning to others," the FBI's Joseph Bonavolonta said. "You can't pay to play. You can't cheat to get ahead, because you will get caught."
The nationwide scheme was prosecuted in Boston in part because it was uncovered by FBI agents there working an unrelated case. They say fake test scores were submitted to Boston College, Boston University and Northeastern University.
https://abc13.com/actresses-ceos-charged-in-alleged-college-admissions-scam/5186103/
UGLY! It is good to see the FBI doing what they should be doing.
Going to be hard for the dims to find enough candidates to fill all of those ballot spots in the near future.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 12, 2019, 10:55:24 AM
UGLY! It is good to see the FBI doing what they should be doing.
We all know this has been going on for decades, but it wasn't until Trump came along, that it was finally exposed.
WAIT....!
I'm a little confused. Hollywood keeps telling me "White Privilege" is alive and well in America. If that is the case why would the "White Privilege" elites of Hollywood have to bribe the educated system of higher learning to get their kids into school.....? They should be able to walk right through the doors and say....look I'm "privileged" please open the doors for me.
I sure wish someone would explain how this "White Privilege" stuff works because I'm White and tired of setting my damn alarm clock to 4 am.
I know the article doesn't state "White Privilege". It states "catalog of wealth and privilege". I just wanted to bust a little Hollywood chops. I have a gut feeling that 90 plus percent are Hollywood privileged that are bribing the colleges to get their (I can't pass the test) kids into the so called elite schools of higher learning.
It's good to see the FBI doing the job it was created to do. I had the FBI as a whole at a F-. Today I give them an atta-boy and grade them with a big fat A+ for a job well done..... :thumbsup:
So are the colleges themselves implicated in this scandal? Or are they victims of this too? Because Im certain those ivy league schools are corrupt as hell, and trump will find something sooner or later.
This explains a lot. This is another example of the Trump regime kicking another leg out from under the table holding up the Marxist house of cards.
Quote from: Bronx on March 12, 2019, 12:30:41 PM
WAIT....!
I'm a little confused. Hollywood keeps telling me "White Privilege" is alive and well in America. If that is the case why would the "White Privilege" elites of Hollywood have to bribe the educated system of higher learning to get their kids into school.....? They should be able to walk right through the doors and say....look I'm "privileged" please open the doors for me.
I sure wish someone would explain how this "White Privilege" stuff works because I'm White and tired of setting my damn alarm clock to 4 am.
I know the article doesn't state "White Privilege". It states "catalog of wealth and privilege". I just wanted to bust a little Hollywood chops. I have a gut feeling that 90 plus percent are Hollywood privileged that are bribing the colleges to get their (I can't pass the test) kids into the so called elite schools of higher learning.
It's good to see the FBI doing the job it was created to do. I had the FBI as a whole at a F-. Today I give them an atta-boy and grade them with a big fat A+ for a job well done..... :thumbsup:
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True Marxist fashion... it's white privilege when YOU do it, not me.
Quote from: taxed on March 12, 2019, 02:11:07 PM
This explains a lot. This is another example of the Trump regime kicking another leg out from under the table holding up the Marxist house of cards.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That one actress ensures that they have a "Full House".
:lol:
Quote from: Solar on March 12, 2019, 02:22:13 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I've been thinking for a while, how are they going to make a dent in academia? I didn't even think about this...
Quote from: taxed on March 12, 2019, 02:47:36 PM
I've been thinking for a while, how are they going to make a dent in academia? I didn't even think about this...
That's how I saw it as well. First you take away the bred and butter, then once exposed, you expand your investigation.
Eventually proving, they no longer need taxpayer subsidies and force them to abandon the nonsense classes on Marxism and return to actually educating the next generation.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/lori-loughlin-released-on-dollar1-million-bail-in-college-admissions-scandal/ar-BBUILzG?li=BBnb7Kz
QuoteActress Lori Loughlin was released on $1-million bail Wednesday after being taken into custody as part of a sweeping college admissions corruption scandal.
That is crazy. She is not a threat nor a flight risk.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/obama-family-tennis-coach-charged-in-college-admissions-scheme/ar-BBUJizW?li=BBnbcA1
QuoteA tennis instructor for former first lady Michelle Obama and her daughters, Malia and Sasha, was among dozens of people indicted by federal authorities in a college admissions scandal announced Tuesday.
Gordon Ernst, who previously served as a tennis coach at Georgetown University before becoming the women's tennis coach at the University of Rhode Island, is accused of conspiracy to commit racketeering while he was employed at the Washington, D.C., school.
Prosecutors allege Gordon accepted more than $2.7 million in bribes between 2012 and 2018 to put at least 12 students on the Georgetown tennis teams, including students who did not play the sport competitively, according to the indictment.
The bribes were paid to Ernst through the nonprofit Key Worldwide Foundation founded by William Rick Singer in 2012. Singer was the architect of the scam, which involved cheating on college admission tests and bribing college coaches.
:popcorn:
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on March 13, 2019, 09:39:22 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/lori-loughlin-released-on-dollar1-million-bail-in-college-admissions-scandal/ar-BBUILzG?li=BBnb7Kz
That is crazy. She is not a threat nor a flight risk.
A million to her is 10 grand to joe shmoe...if we have to have a progressive tax system, damn straight I am fine with a progressive bail system
Nice knowing the FBI has no problems going after the little people. But not Holder, Bill or Hillary.
I'll be the first to say it. This is only scratching the surface, there will be many more exposed because this was par for the course across the country for decades,, Singer came in after this practice had already been established.
He wanted in on the action, and sloppily exposed the entire market for what is is, a huge fraud on the taxpayer.
This was common knowledge when I lived in Sac, that if you wanted to go to the more expensive schools, there were people out there that could make it happen.
Trump is only just getting started, stay tuned. :thumbup:
Who is William Rick Singer, Sacramento man accused in college admissions scam?
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article227458949.html
Quote from: Sauce on March 14, 2019, 04:35:17 AM
A million to her is 10 grand to joe shmoe...if we have to have a progressive tax system, damn straight I am fine with a progressive bail system
That should be added to the if you were in charge thread. Bribery is illegal. I view the Progressive view of punishment. Bribing to get into a college should not have a worse punishment than a murderer.
Bribing to get into a college is not the worse thing in the world. Getting a bribe in order to sell a country Uranium is a critical issue. They have to deal with the consequences since they are caught but Lori L. is not a threat to society nor a flight risk. They will be punished. I am still waiting for the justice on the Clintons.
Quote from: Solar on March 14, 2019, 07:31:34 AM
I'll be the first to say it. This is only scratching the surface, there will be many more exposed because this was par for the course across the country for decades,, Singer came in after this practice had already been established.
He wanted in on the action, and sloppily exposed the entire market for what is is, a huge fraud on the taxpayer.
This was common knowledge when I lived in Sac, that if you wanted to go to the more expensive schools, there were people out there that could make it happen.
Trump is only just getting started, stay tuned. :thumbup:
Who is William Rick Singer, Sacramento man accused in college admissions scam?
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article227458949.html
Newt, on outnumbered on fox, just suggested that trump form a commision to examine the entire higher education system, particularly the pricing and admissions. Imagine what that could turn up.
Myabe this will be trumps excuse to get rid of the dept of education.
Quote from: T Hunt on March 14, 2019, 12:02:59 PM
Newt, on outnumbered on fox, just suggested that trump form a commision to examine the entire higher education system, particularly the pricing and admissions. Imagine what that could turn up.
Myabe this will be trumps excuse to get rid of the dept of education.
Don't leave out what they are teaching, not just getting into them.
Quote from: T Hunt on March 14, 2019, 12:02:59 PM
Newt, on outnumbered on fox, just suggested that trump form a commision to examine the entire higher education system, particularly the pricing and admissions. Imagine what that could turn up.
Myabe this will be trumps excuse to get rid of the dept of education.
:thumbup:
Wouldn't it be great if the government was completely out of the business altogether? Make it a private entity, where actual accountability, from teacher to superintendent is based on productivity in the form of test scores. The best get promoted, the worst find a new job.
Quote from: Sauce on March 14, 2019, 04:35:17 AM
A million to her is 10 grand to joe shmoe...if we have to have a progressive tax system, damn straight I am fine with a progressive bail system
The purpose of the bail system is to make sure the person shows up for trial, not to punish. Now the purpose of the progressive tax system is to punish people - for having "too much" money.
Quote from: Solar on March 14, 2019, 12:21:12 PM
:thumbup:
Wouldn't it be great if the government was completely out of the business altogether? Make it a private entity, where actual accountability, from teacher to superintendent is based on productivity in the form of test scores. The best get promoted, the worst find a new job.
Getting the government out would do wonders. However, there is so much funding from the government to universities it is not likely. Both parties are in this. I remember I lectured at a large public university 25-30 years ago and got to know a number of the administration and faculty of the business school. The conversation was always about "funding". Consequently, all this "free" money leads to leftists leanings. One result of this is the insane practice of "tenure". There is no other industry that has this invitation to incompetency.
My unknown source says that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wants to add Sally Fields to the list to be investigated on how Forrest Gump got into the University of Alabama.
I couldn't resist...... :lol:
What if this exposes Hussein's college records, exposing him as a foreign student?
Quote from: taxed on March 15, 2019, 03:07:52 PM
What if this exposes Hussein's college records, exposing him as a foreign student?
I believe that's the entire reason behind this investigation, it was the only way they were ever going to catch his ass, if they could snare a whole bunch of these in one huge investigation, Hussein is bound to turn up as it broadens..
Quote from: Solar on March 15, 2019, 03:32:28 PM
I believe that's the entire reason behind this investigation, it was the only way they were ever going to catch his ass, if they could snare a whole bunch of these in one huge investigation, Hussein is bound to turn up as it broadens..
What would the end result be for Hussein? Treason?
Elizabeth Warren condemned them so I am satisfied.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on March 15, 2019, 04:39:44 PM
What would the end result be for Hussein? Treason?
A show on MSNBC.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on March 15, 2019, 04:39:44 PM
What would the end result be for Hussein? Treason?
Good question. The charges would be endless, along with the investigation proving the DNC was in on the fraud, so God only knows.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 15, 2019, 06:01:31 PM
A show on MSNBC.
They're going to need to custom fit his glasses with those ears...
Quote from: Solar on March 15, 2019, 03:32:28 PM
I believe that's the entire reason behind this investigation, it was the only way they were ever going to catch his ass, if they could snare a whole bunch of these in one huge investigation, Hussein is bound to turn up as it broadens..
I find this an interesting comparison:
- The Dims were pretty sure Trump had conspired with the Russians to get elected. But they didn't have any proof and got way ahead of themselves based on their speculation. So they made the accusation then went on a witch hunt for proof. There was nothing there. By then, the Dim / LSM ire against Trump was so great, and so many people had their reputations on the line, they would stop at nothing to find something to burn him with and are still at it - now moving beyond the collusion claim. And anyone that found themselves in their cross-hairs were going to get scrutinized severely to force them to give something up - even if it was made up. This whole process should be illegal and there should be consequences to those who established the special council for not doing their homework ahead and wasting so much time and money.
- The Pubs, on the other hand, have a pretty good idea that HiLIARy and BO were breaking the law. But they didn't get ahead of themselves. For HiLIARy, they had easy proof since she was privately storing classified information, but the BO DOJ told the FBI not to prosecute (based on Page's testimony). And the Pubs have not called for special investigations of BO. If they turn up evidence (yes,real evidence) that BO was breaking the law, then they will indict. That's more like how it is supposed to be done. Although, I'll say, that if BO is found to be breaking the law, he'll become a martyr with those who worshiped him and the lunacy will continue.
It's such obvious, damning evidence of how the Dims operate. If it fits their objective, it's presumption of guilt; guilty until proven innocent ... and then they will still figure something out to make sure you are guilty.
There is no middle ground with the Dims - they are a treasonous enemy of our Republic. BO showed how they are parasites sucking the life out of the American freedom in contrast to how Trump is building true industry and respect back into our country that had been given away. The Dims are lemmings that are told what to do and threatened if they don't fall into line. It's only a matter of time until we separate in some manner. They need to go live in their socialist cesspool for awhile so that their own people will learn the truth and will then turn against their socialist leaders and return to the ideas that make this country work so well.
No longer the USA: United States of America. Now the DSA: Divided States of America = {UAR: American Republic} U {SA: Socialist America}.
Quote from: topside on March 16, 2019, 06:45:18 AM
I find this an interesting comparison:
- The Dims were pretty sure Trump had conspired with the Russians to get elected. But they didn't have any proof and got way ahead of themselves based on their speculation. So they made the accusation then went on a witch hunt for proof. There was nothing there. By then, the Dim / LSM ire against Trump was so great, and so many people had their reputations on the line, they would stop at nothing to find something to burn him with and are still at it - now moving beyond the collusion claim. And anyone that found themselves in their cross-hairs were going to get scrutinized severely to force them to give something up - even if it was made up. This whole process should be illegal and there should be consequences to those who established the special council for not doing their homework ahead and wasting so much time and money.
- The Pubs, on the other hand, have a pretty good idea that HiLIARy and BO were breaking the law. But they didn't get ahead of themselves. For HiLIARy, they had easy proof since she was privately storing classified information, but the BO DOJ told the FBI not to prosecute (based on Page's testimony). And the Pubs have not called for special investigations of BO. If they turn up evidence (yes,real evidence) that BO was breaking the law, then they will indict. That's more like how it is supposed to be done. Although, I'll say, that if BO is found to be breaking the law, he'll become a martyr with those who worshiped him and the lunacy will continue.
It's such obvious, damning evidence of how the Dims operate. If it fits their objective, it's presumption of guilt; guilty until proven innocent ... and then they will still figure something out to make sure you are guilty.
There is no middle ground with the Dims - they are a treasonous enemy of our Republic. BO showed how they are parasites sucking the life out of the American freedom in contrast to how Trump is building true industry and respect back into our country that had been given away. The Dims are lemmings that are told what to do and threatened if they don't fall into line. It's only a matter of time until we separate in some manner. They need to go live in their socialist cesspool for awhile so that their own people will learn the truth and will then turn against their socialist leaders and return to the ideas that make this country work so well.
No longer the USA: United States of America. Now the DSA: Divided States of America = {UAR: American Republic} U {SA: Socialist America}.
That's pretty much it in a nutshell, and why they tried so hard to remove him from office. They were certain they had it all locked up under Clinton, but Trump still won, and panic set in.
Now it comes down to individuals in the DNC facing serious prison time, they know the party is done for and they don't care, that's why they are now running on pure hate for everything America stands for, from antisemitism, Infanticide, racial division, to trying to outright ban weapons by repealing the 2nd.
If they were interested in saving the party, they'd have pretended to be Libertarians and used our arguments against us, but they no longer care, they need to destroy the country, that has been their main objective from the start.
So is the FBI going after Sen. Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren? A Scam is a scam.
A reflection and an opinion.
Suggest that entangling this fandango w/politics is feel good malarkey.
Consider a moment the likes of Plato, Euclid, Cicero, Duns Scotus,
Copernicus, Michelangelo, Shakespeare, Galileo and Haydn; to name
but a handful, from multiple hundreds of geniuses.
What common behavior/trait did they share???.........Why all were self-taught!!!
Institutional learning w/credentials/degrees, a relatively modern fad,
has never, NEVER, produced the creative and wise throughout history.
Those self-taught were endowed w/self-discipline, responsibility, courage,
perseverance, work and honor; virtues that guided them to positive achievement
* Is it not obvious that these virtues don't exist among the participants
in this scam?
* Isn't that cold reality infinitely more important than any sleazy politics
involved?
* And isn't it beyond obvious that asserting 'we are the greatest' is far
more absurd than an embarrassment?
Quote from: walkstall on March 16, 2019, 08:39:46 AM
So is the FBI going after Sen. Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren? A Scam is a scam.
She's even funnier... she said she was disgusted that someone would cheat like that.... I'm being serious.
Quote from: taxed on March 16, 2019, 11:53:31 AM
She's even funnier... she said she was disgusted that someone would cheat like that.... I'm being serious.
She is either totally oblivious to her transgression or her arrogance has once again overtaken her. Probably both.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 16, 2019, 12:06:09 PM
She is either totally oblivious to her transgression or her arrogance has once again overtaken her. Probably both.
She a Dem, she hopes her Pocahontas days will not follow her.
Quote from: Walter Josh on March 16, 2019, 11:49:19 AM
A reflection and an opinion.
Suggest that entangling this fandango w/politics is feel good malarkey.
Consider a moment the likes of Plato, Euclid, Cicero, Duns Scotus,
Copernicus, Michelangelo, Shakespeare, Galileo and Haydn; to name
but a handful, from multiple hundreds of geniuses.
What common behavior/trait did they share???.........Why all were self-taught!!!
Institutional learning w/credentials/degrees, a relatively modern fad,
has never, NEVER, produced the creative and wise throughout history.
Those self-taught were endowed w/self-discipline, responsibility, courage,
perseverance, work and honor; virtues that guided them to positive achievement
* Is it not obvious that these virtues don't exist among the participants
in this scam?
* Isn't that cold reality infinitely more important than any sleazy politics
involved?
* And isn't it beyond obvious that asserting 'we are the greatest' is far
more absurd than an embarrassment?
Excellent point Walter! :thumbup:
Quote from: Walter Josh on March 16, 2019, 11:49:19 AM
A reflection and an opinion.
Suggest that entangling this fandango w/politics is feel good malarkey.
Consider a moment the likes of Plato, Euclid, Cicero, Duns Scotus,
Copernicus, Michelangelo, Shakespeare, Galileo and Haydn; to name
but a handful, from multiple hundreds of geniuses.
What common behavior/trait did they share???.........Why all were self-taught!!!
Institutional learning w/credentials/degrees, a relatively modern fad,
has never, NEVER, produced the creative and wise throughout history.
Those self-taught were endowed w/self-discipline, responsibility, courage,
perseverance, work and honor; virtues that guided them to positive achievement
* Is it not obvious that these virtues don't exist among the participants
in this scam?
* Isn't that cold reality infinitely more important than any sleazy politics
involved?
* And isn't it beyond obvious that asserting 'we are the greatest' is far
more absurd than an embarrassment?
I'm not 100% with you. I agree, there are still some areas that can be discovered independent of the body of available knowledge - with that I agree. But it's much more difficult than using the body of knowledge to grow from. The problem is how the knowledge is grown and force-fed into the students. There needs to be a revival in learning - a total reset on expectations and how it is fed to the students. Of course, the students also have to be honest - that is a major problem.
There's nothing wrong with using the knowledge of others to understand previous thought and to decide, for yourself, what to assert and what to reject. Also to use existing ideas to test your own knowledge and beliefs, e.g., when you come upon something of interest, don't read the support - come up with your own then compare to the support others bring. It's an efficient way to grow and to get to the edge of knowledge in any field. But at some point, the brightest start to think beyond the edge and contribute to the growth of wisdom and knowledge.
The best formal learning challenges you to go off the tried path. For example, I had a math professor who gave a take-home test to be worked with no other help but the class text. He placed an open problem (unsolved in all of the field) in the set. I actually thought I had solved it, but turns out that I made a simplifying assumption that gave a specific result - not the general result. The point is, formal learning can aid in real growth if it is formed well and the learner doesn't cheat himself (try to just look up answers). But at some point you have to go off-road. What most people think of as breakthrough is just incremental from what is taught - if even that. New knowledge is actually discovered in some fields - but is rare that any in the mainstream are part of it.
And I certainly agree that anyone that thinks themselves or their group the greatest have lost touch with reality.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 16, 2019, 12:06:09 PM
She is either totally oblivious to her transgression or her arrogance has once again overtaken her. Probably both.
How manchurian can these people be? It's like someone flips a switch to power them up in the morning.
My assertion being quite simple, is hardly complicated or obscure.
Some 5,000 years past, civilization evolved from the tribal into distinct cultures/societies,
among the earliest nation/states of the Fertile Crescent, such as Egypt and Mesopotamia.
The acquisition of knowledge and wisdom was driven and personalized by individuals rather than promoted by institutions. As such, genius was both self-created and developed.
This attitude and behavior persisted until modern times, producing the greatest minds
who ever existed; among them the Greeks and Romans who birthed Western Civilization.
We, who insist we are the greatest, instead are addicted to bullshit; an attribute on daily display among those we hilariously label leaders.
The vast majority in universities are simply passing time till their ticket is punched
so they can move into the marketplace!!!
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2019-03-14/first-busey-board-member-accused-college-admissions-scandal-resigning.html
https://www.dailybreeze.com/2019/03/14/sage-hill-school-board-of-trustees-members-resign-following-indictments-in-college-admissions-scandal/
https://www.kvue.com/article/news/education/university-of-texas/longhorns-tennis-coach-michael-center-fired-after-arrest/269-38210be5-171a-4229-b3fd-7677f9d00929
It's on and on...
https://www.local10.com/news/crime/miami-developer-robert-bob-zangrillo-charged-in-admissions-investigation
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/investigations-college-admissions-and-testing-bribery-scheme
Quote from: taxed on March 16, 2019, 11:49:35 PM
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/investigations-college-admissions-and-testing-bribery-scheme
I knew this was far bigger than was being let on, but I never expected to see it unravel so quickly, which is proof the investigation taking place is freakin huge!! :thumbsup:
For the most part, I don't really care about this whole thing to a point. If it takes these smug, Liberal celebrities down a notch, that's cool. I am waiting for the big fish like Hussein and the rest of these prominent left-wing Democrats that gets dug up. I have a feeling they will pull a Clinton and destroy evidence.
Can Warren be in trouble for saying she is Indian when she is not? What is the precedence on that?