A thought about Islam

Started by Cryptic Bert, June 02, 2014, 10:25:22 PM

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mdgiles

Quote from: TboneAgain on June 08, 2014, 12:44:42 PM
What the hell are you talking about? Please point out to us the last Communist terrorist you can think of. We'll wait.

During the 80's, just before the collapse of Communism, Europe was full of terrorists. The Bader-Meinhof gang, the Red Brigades being just two. The Communists gave assistance to all of them. It wasn't a coincidence that terrorists from all over the world received training in Libya, or all used the Czech explosive Semtex. Of course most of them disappeared when their support did.
"LIBERALS: their willful ignorance is rivaled only by their catastrophic stupidity"!

TboneAgain

Quote from: mdgiles on June 08, 2014, 05:07:43 PM
During the 80's, just before the collapse of Communism, Europe was full of terrorists. The Bader-Meinhof gang, the Red Brigades being just two. The Communists gave assistance to all of them. It wasn't a coincidence that terrorists from all over the world received training in Libya, or all used the Czech explosive Semtex. Of course most of them disappeared when their support did.

Of course you're correct. And it was a generation or so ago. And most of those who used it were trained by Islamists.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. -- Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; IT IS FORCE. -- George Washington

Walter Josh

Tbone and w/respect.
Felix Dzerzhinsky, Stalin's Director of the Cheka (Secret Police)
most emphatically used massive terror against the Russian
Peasantry (Kulaks) in the period 1930-1937 and exterminated
millions in the process. He was a 'Communist Terrorist'!!!

mdgiles

Quote from: Walter Josh on June 08, 2014, 09:58:28 PM
Tbone and w/respect.
Felix Dzerzhinsky, Stalin's Director of the Cheka (Secret Police)
most emphatically used massive terror against the Russian
Peasantry (Kulaks) in the period 1930-1937 and exterminated
millions in the process. He was a 'Communist Terrorist'!!!
Nope, Dzerzhinsky was Lenin's head of "state security". Stalin inherited Menzhinsky, who "passed away". Then Yagoda,who "dropped dead". Then Yezhov, who contracted a case of "lead poisoning". Finally Beria, who after Stalin died was "removed" by the other party leaders before he could "remove" them. Head of the Checka/OGPU/NKVD/KGB was a position you really didn't want, since your underlings were always looking for a "promotion".
"LIBERALS: their willful ignorance is rivaled only by their catastrophic stupidity"!

Mountainshield

Quote from: TboneAgain on June 08, 2014, 12:44:42 PM
What the hell are you talking about? Please point out to us the last Communist terrorist you can think of. We'll wait.

If Islam is finding "useful fools" to commit terrorist acts, then it follows that Islam is LOOKING for exactly such fools to do exactly such things, wouldn't you agree?

Your post is weird. What do you actually think of Islam and Islamic terrorism?

Indeed what Solar said, and to clarify further I think based on just my personal experience, so I might be totally wrong on this but my point was that I think most muslims are not really islamists at all. I grew up in the Norwegian "slum" (compared to most nations ghetto's its a suburb thanks to oil-welfare) still it was about 120 project apartment buildings filled almost entirely of turkish immigrants, somalis and Norwegian ethnic single mothers. Lowest median income of entire region. Growing up with muslims they never prayed to allah, most of the muslim girls did not use muslim clothing, and as we grew older they even started eating bacon and I would say at least 90% of them started drinking and partying like Norwegians. Now that being said I personally had one somali friend that was sent away to London islam fundamentalist school at age 12 by his parents.

But from this personal experience it seems to me most muslims do not want Islam in their lives at all, but only do so out of either fear of retribution against their family in the old countries and in order to not look like bad muslims in front of their peers that might report them to the local mullah or imam or whatever.

As for latest communist terrorist attack you have the Breivik red flag operation where one known communist (known member of masonic league in Norway, I don't know much about the American Freemasons, but having many relatives in the Norwegian masonic lodge I know for a fact they are all Fabian socialists) pretended to be a conservative christian and killed muslim and white socialists.

And sorry for my norwenglish, I will endeavor to write better.

TboneAgain

Quote from: Mountainshield on June 09, 2014, 08:18:56 AM
Indeed what Solar said, and to clarify further I think based on just my personal experience, so I might be totally wrong on this but my point was that I think most muslims are not really islamists at all. I grew up in the Norwegian "slum" (compared to most nations ghetto's its a suburb thanks to oil-welfare) still it was about 120 project apartment buildings filled almost entirely of turkish immigrants, somalis and Norwegian ethnic single mothers. Lowest median income of entire region. Growing up with muslims they never prayed to allah, most of the muslim girls did not use muslim clothing, and as we grew older they even started eating bacon and I would say at least 90% of them started drinking and partying like Norwegians. Now that being said I personally had one somali friend that was sent away to London islam fundamentalist school at age 12 by his parents.

But from this personal experience it seems to me most muslims do not want Islam in their lives at all, but only do so out of either fear of retribution against their family in the old countries and in order to not look like bad muslims in front of their peers that might report them to the local mullah or imam or whatever.

As for latest communist terrorist attack you have the Breivik red flag operation where one known communist (known member of masonic league in Norway, I don't know much about the American Freemasons, but having many relatives in the Norwegian masonic lodge I know for a fact they are all Fabian socialists) pretended to be a conservative christian and killed muslim and white socialists.

And sorry for my norwenglish, I will endeavor to write better.

From what I've read about Breivik, he is many things, including rabidly Islamaphobic and just plain nuts, but he is not, and has never been, associated with any Communist cause or organization.

It still stuns me that a man like Breivik, a craven killer who assassinated 77 people, can only be sentenced to a maximum of 21 years under Norwegian law.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. -- Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; IT IS FORCE. -- George Washington

Billy's bayonet

Quote from: TboneAgain on June 08, 2014, 12:44:42 PM
What the hell are you talking about? Please point out to us the last Communist terrorist you can think of. We'll wait.

If Islam is finding "useful fools" to commit terrorist acts, then it follows that Islam is LOOKING for exactly such fools to do exactly such things, wouldn't you agree?

Your post is weird. What do you actually think of Islam and Islamic terrorism?

Ya Say ya Wanna list of  "Communist Terrorists"......here ya go.

Castro and his Pal Che Guerverra

The Former USSR KGB agents (Putin was one)

The Viet Cong (Met a few personally)

The Khmer Rouge (Pol Pots boys)

The Pathet Lao (met a few personally)

North Korean SPecial Operations Division ....Sabotuers and Kidnappers

Shining Path Guerillas (South America)

Carlos the Terrorist (avowed Marxist)

The Red Brigade (Italy 1970's to 1980's)

Ba'ader Meinhoff (germany & Western Europe 1960's to 1970)

New Peoples Army, Philippines (their boss Jose Maria Sasson is enjoying Amnesty at the Hague)

And My favorite who cover the bases of Narco Terroristas to Marxists goons... The FARC in Columbia.

Evil operates best when under a disguise

WHEN A CRIME GOES UNPUNISHED THE WORLD IS UNBALANCED

WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

IMPEACH BIDEN

Mountainshield

Quote from: TboneAgain on June 09, 2014, 01:13:41 PM
From what I've read about Breivik, he is many things, including rabidly Islamaphobic and just plain nuts, but he is not, and has never been, associated with any Communist cause or organization.

It still stuns me that a man like Breivik, a craven killer who assassinated 77 people, can only be sentenced to a maximum of 21 years under Norwegian law.

Then you have not read enough, though I guess the material available in english is very small and convoluted compared to the material available to Norwegians. He was rabidly islamaphonic online yet at the same time part of the socialist elite, he even spent summers at a vacation house masonic lodge overlooking the island, it is quite obvious they got the idea on one of their retreats watching the annual socialist youth gathering.

But we can argue these theories and supposed facts all day long, but a fact that is indisputable is that he gave the communist salute during his trial, and he is quite comfortably in prison btw, not bad having 4 room prison cell with computer and entertainment systems I must say, not really a sentence at all, more a reward.