And yes, there are many of you out there reading this, so here's my question.
After nearly 4 years, it's become glaringly apparent that socialism will never work in this country and after the damage obama has done to the economy as well as this spirit of this nation, will you be voting for him, or someone else?

Please, be honest, and if you say yes, give a reason.

Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2012, 05:55:58 AM
And yes, there are many of you out there reading this, so here's my question.
After nearly 4 years, it's become glaringly apparent that socialism will never work in this country and after the damage obama has done to the economy as well as this spirit of this nation, will you be voting for him, or someone else?

Please, be honest, and if you say yes, give a reason.

Because he's a Leftoid just like they are, and that fact is more important than the good of the country? 

Quote from: mdgiles on July 14, 2012, 06:12:50 AM
Because he's a Leftoid just like they are, and that fact is more important than the good of the country? 

Yeah, I know, but I was hoping to hear a lib articulate their reasons, for or against.
If it's for, they are either voting on emotion, or they simply hate the country, there can be no other explanation.

#64 Sound of Crickets Chirping

Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 14, 2012, 08:02:33 AM
#64 Sound of Crickets Chirping

I guess it's safe to assume from their silence, they won't be voting for hussein.

Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2012, 05:55:58 AM
And yes, there are many of you out there reading this, so here's my question.

Strike 1: no lurkers have replied.

QuoteAfter nearly 4 years, it's become glaringly apparent

Strike 2: loaded question.

Quotethat socialism will never work in this country

Strike 3: strawman.

Remember that the 2008 depression occurred under Bush's administration.  At the worst, Obama has worsened it; he didn't actually create it.  The Depression occurred after one of the most conservative decades in our history.  Reagan's term saw one of the worst recessions in our history; do you notice a pattern here?

From a social standpoint, my support for Obama lies in his endorsement of gay marriage and the fact that he is not a religious nut.

QuoteStrike 3: strawman.

Remember that the 2008 depression occurred under Bush's administration.  At the worst, Obama has worsened it; he didn't actually create it.  The Depression occurred after one of the most conservative decades in our history.  Reagan's term saw one of the worst recessions in our history; do you notice a pattern here?

From a social standpoint, my support for Obama lies in his endorsement of gay marriage and the fact that he is not a religious nut.

So now you're blaming Reagan for the mess created by Carter. Interesting you want to blame Bush for Obama screw ups but want to absolve Carter of any blame for the mess Reagan inherited.

I see a pattern alright. You like to blame Republicans and make excuse for Democrats.

I remember Carter's recession.  Mortgage interest rates were around 18%.  And then the peanut man hid out at the White House to mull over what the country's problem was, and he came up with deciding that the citizens of this country were just affected with "Malaise."  Barack Hussein Obama has, and I truly believe this, as his goal the complete destruction of the economic base and the culture of this country.  I believe he is a foreign born Muslim and he is obeying his pedophile "Prophet" to make the world safe for a Grand Caliphate. 

I also remember that Reagan had sent word to Iran that if they did not release the hostages by the time he took office, they would suffer dire consequences.  They released all Americans during the time Reagan was being sworn in.  Carter, when he heard the news, said, eloquent as always, "Right on, man."

Reagan was one of the greatest presidents in the history of this country.  Obama is the worst.  He's way down there with Jimmy Carter who is running a close second.

I want the time to return when I was proud of my America.  When we were prosperous and proud.  When we defended our borders and protected our country.  I long for the time when we had a president with integrity and not a foreign-born Socialist Muslim.   

I want these lily-livered craven cowards out of the Senate and Congress.  I want a real American as president.

Carter created the Department of Energy.

He should never be forgiven for that.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 14, 2012, 12:59:26 PM

From a social standpoint, my support for Obama lies in his endorsement of gay marriage and the fact that he is not a religious nut.

So it doesn't matter that he's economically incompetent? Or that he runs the country the way he'd run the city of Chicago?

Quote from: Charliemyboy on July 14, 2012, 03:00:42 PM
I remember Carter's recession.  Mortgage interest rates were around 18%.  And then the peanut man hid out at the White House to mull over what the country's problem was, and he came up with deciding that the citizens of this country were just affected with "Malaise."  Barack Hussein Obama has, and I truly believe this, as his goal the complete destruction of the economic base and the culture of this country.  I believe he is a foreign born Muslim and he is obeying his pedophile "Prophet" to make the world safe for a Grand Caliphate. 

I also remember that Reagan had sent word to Iran that if they did not release the hostages by the time he took office, they would suffer dire consequences.  They released all Americans during the time Reagan was being sworn in.  Carter, when he heard the news, said, eloquent as always, "Right on, man."

Reagan was one of the greatest presidents in the history of this country.  Obama is the worst.  He's way down there with Jimmy Carter who is running a close second.

I want the time to return when I was proud of my America.  When we were prosperous and proud.  When we defended our borders and protected our country.  I long for the time when we had a president with integrity and not a foreign-born Socialist Muslim.   

I want these lily-livered craven cowards out of the Senate and Congress.  I want a real American as president.

Very accurate and I totally agree.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 14, 2012, 12:59:26 PM
Strike 3: strawman.
From a social standpoint, my support for Obama lies in his endorsement of gay marriage and the fact that he is not a religious nut.

It simply boggles the mind that anyone could think that one's sex life or marital status has any importance whatsoever as compared to the problems this country has or that a president's opinion has any worth in the matter.  The very idea that someone would  cast one's vote for someone on that basis leaves me utterly bewildered.  It just doesn't compute.   

Quote from: Charliemyboy on July 14, 2012, 05:01:40 PM
It simply boggles the mind that anyone could think that one's sex life or marital status has any importance whatsoever as compared to the problems this country has or that a president's opinion has any worth in the matter.  The very idea that someone would  cast one's vote for someone on that basis leaves me utterly bewildered.  It just doesn't compute.

I was getting ready to respond to him, when I hit that statement.
What is the use in responding to someone so hyper focused on one issue, to completely overlook the fact that the guy is Hell bent on our destruction, yet closes his eyes to all but one social issue, screams pure selfishness.

There is no getting through to people like that, they come with but one agenda and that's never good for the whole of the country.

Quote from: Charliemyboy on July 14, 2012, 03:00:42 PM
I remember Carter's recession.  Mortgage interest rates were around 18%.  And then the peanut man hid out at the White House to mull over what the country's problem was, and he came up with deciding that the citizens of this country were just affected with "Malaise."  Barack Hussein Obama has, and I truly believe this, as his goal the complete destruction of the economic base and the culture of this country.  I believe he is a foreign born Muslim and he is obeying his pedophile "Prophet" to make the world safe for a Grand Caliphate. 

I also remember that Reagan had sent word to Iran that if they did not release the hostages by the time he took office, they would suffer dire consequences.  They released all Americans during the time Reagan was being sworn in.  Carter, when he heard the news, said, eloquent as always, "Right on, man."

Reagan was one of the greatest presidents in the history of this country.  Obama is the worst.  He's way down there with Jimmy Carter who is running a close second.

I want the time to return when I was proud of my America.  When we were prosperous and proud.  When we defended our borders and protected our country.  I long for the time when we had a president with integrity and not a foreign-born Socialist Muslim.   

I want these lily-livered craven cowards out of the Senate and Congress.  I want a real American as president.

I sympathize with your sentiments. I too remember the Carter "malaise." What a useless guy; still is. Actually, mortgage rates hit 24% +/- for a while, and even the prime rate was above 21% IIRC. I bought my first house in 1978 at the very ending of what was, for the time, what we would call a housing "bubble" today. Two years later, the bubble had burst, and my house was suddenly worth about 20% less than I owed on it. I finally sold it in 1987 for just about what I'd paid for it, even after making significant improvements. It was a miserable time in the late '70s. It gave us fun new vocabulary terms like "stagflation" and "ayatollah" and "crazed rabbit attack." If not for the Reagan recovery, I'd have lost my ass on the place.

The fact that there is a single person living in the US who would vote for Dear Leader again solely because he supports gay marriage is, well, bewildering to me. It puts me in mind of some of the Occupy freaks the unions were paying to be there, who didn't even know what they were protesting, just doing what they were told.

I guess it's "Screw the other 98% of the population and their problems, we must help the gays get married, and we must avoid having a POTUS who appears to be religious at all cost, nothing else matters, and DL's the guy to get it done." I suppose that sort of thinking is easy on the brain cells, since only two or three of them are doing anything.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 14, 2012, 12:59:26 PM
Strike 1: no lurkers have replied.

Strike 2: loaded question.

Strike 3: strawman.

Remember that the 2008 depression occurred under Bush's administration.  At the worst, Obama has worsened it; he didn't actually create it.  The Depression occurred after one of the most conservative decades in our history.  Reagan's term saw one of the worst recessions in our history; do you notice a pattern here?

From a social standpoint, my support for Obama lies in his endorsement of gay marriage and the fact that he is not a religious nut.

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"From a social standpoint, my support for Obama lies in his endorsement of gay marriage and the fact that he is not a religious nut."
That truly is sad. That's your logic for voting for him? So now he has this change of heart five months before the election, you want to keep this community organizer and committed Alinskyite in office. This man has done nothing but divided this country on every issue. That's what he's trained to do his entire adult life. He's a radical who abuses his power using his pen and executive order. You have no character.