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Title: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: Solar on December 17, 2012, 06:56:03 AM
I know nothing about this guy or his site, and yes, he strikes me as a bit racist.
However, part of what he says is true regarding the election and voting numbers and how it applies to the future in National elections.
What do you think?

The 2012 Election: What It Means for Whites (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfy4xu1-wDE#ws)
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: keyboarder on December 17, 2012, 07:21:28 AM
This message isn't entirely racist to me.  Like you said, it could be a bit racist to some but the message goes right to the heart of the issue of so many that just didn't bother to vote.  Who'll ever know, if he's right about why we lost, if the right person is in office now?  I still consider that the election was not a true one because of the off shore voters being disenfranchied. I think the votes of our servicemen were as important as any votes but many were denied a voting event.  How many lost votes could have helped the GOP?  Is it possible that the servicemen's votes could have tipped the election in our favor?  I'll always wonder about this.  We heard so much about how the voters in the south were being disenfranchised by issues of producing ID at the polls-phooy-they come up with ID for many reasons that have nothing to do with voting.  This is the type of issue and the way it got slid on by to give the poor helpless voters their way that would make alot of folks just throw their hands up and refuse to vote.  These voters don't feel like their votes willl do any good.  There's been so many documentations of voter fraud, yet the left denies any such incidents.
Rant over!    :angry:
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: mdgiles on December 17, 2012, 07:28:22 AM
Here's an idea. Stop blaming Romney's loss on the black vote - 13% of the population, and a far smaller percentage of the voting public - and Hispanics - 8% of the Population and again a smaller percentage of the voting public (blacks voters and Hispanic voters - for a number of reasons - are no where near their population figures). If you want to blame someone, blame SINGLE WHITE FEMALES. I realize it's easier to blame Obozo on blacks and Hispanics - rather than your girlfriend or your daughter - because you want to remain in their good graces. However, even the idea of black or Hispanic votes, is based upon the idea that both ethnic groups voted as a group - an idea promoted by the Dems and the media because it serves their purposes. To note that it also serves the purposes of racist bigots, is simply repeating myself.
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: TowardLiberty on December 17, 2012, 07:43:45 AM
Yeah, this guy is a racist.

He may not view any one race as better than the others, but the fact that he speaks in collectives, "white" and "non-white," is proof that he is not an individualist.

The truth of the matter is that a majority of Americans voted for nobody.

Over 50% of the voting age population did not even bother to vote.

And I proudly count myself as part of that "silent majority."
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: walkstall on December 17, 2012, 07:52:51 AM
Quote from: keyboarder on December 17, 2012, 07:21:28 AM
This message isn't entirely racist to me.  Like you said, it could be a bit racist to some but the message goes right to the heart of the issue of so many that just didn't bother to vote.  Who'll ever know, if he's right about why we lost, if the right person is in office now?  I still consider that the election was not a true one because of the off shore voters being disenfranchied. I think the votes of our servicemen were as important as any votes but many were denied a voting event.  How many lost votes could have helped the GOP?  Is it possible that the servicemen's votes could have tipped the election in our favor?  I'll always wonder about this.  We heard so much about how the voters in the south were being disenfranchised by issues of producing ID at the polls-phooy-they come up with ID for many reasons that have nothing to do with voting.  This is the type of issue and the way it got slid on by to give the poor helpless voters their way that would make alot of folks just throw their hands up and refuse to vote.  These voters don't feel like their votes willl do any good.  There's been so many documentations of voter fraud, yet the left denies any such incidents.
Rant over!    :angry:


I think we need to get past voter fraud, it there we know it.   What killed us was the people that did not vote.  Remember about  43%  of Americans who could have voted did not or was not allowed to vote. (our service men and woman) 
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: TowardLiberty on December 17, 2012, 07:56:48 AM
Quote from: walkstall on December 17, 2012, 07:52:51 AM

I think we need to get past voter fraud, it there we know it.   What killed us was the people that did not vote.  Remember about  43%  of Americans who could have voted did not or was not allowed to vote. (our service men and woman) 

The number is even higher than that.

More and more people are seeing the political process for what it is... and saying to it, "check please."

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdailyreckoning.com%2Fwp-content%2Fblogs.dir%2F5%2Ffiles%2F2012%2F12%2FDRUS12-14-12-4.png&hash=b7190f84794eb49c44b29c92e517904a13b82a5f)


http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/bowman-joel7.1.1.html (http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/bowman-joel7.1.1.html)
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: walkstall on December 17, 2012, 08:03:36 AM
Quote from: TowardLiberty on December 17, 2012, 07:56:48 AM
The number is even higher than that.

More and more people are seeing the political process for what it is... and saying to it, "check please."

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdailyreckoning.com%2Fwp-content%2Fblogs.dir%2F5%2Ffiles%2F2012%2F12%2FDRUS12-14-12-4.png&hash=b7190f84794eb49c44b29c92e517904a13b82a5f)


http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/bowman-joel7.1.1.html (http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/bowman-joel7.1.1.html)

Thank TL, I was being nice with the 43%.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: keyboarder on December 17, 2012, 08:04:09 AM
Quote from: mdgiles on December 17, 2012, 07:28:22 AM
Here's an idea. Stop blaming Romney's loss on the black vote - 13% of the population, and a far smaller percentage of the voting public - and Hispanics - 8% of the Population and again a smaller percentage of the voting public (blacks voters and Hispanic voters - for a number of reasons - are no where near their population figures). If you want to blame someone, blame SINGLE WHITE FEMALES. I realize it's easier to blame Obozo on blacks and Hispanics - rather than your girlfriend or your daughter - because you want to remain in their good graces. However, even the idea of black or Hispanic votes, is based upon the idea that both ethnic groups voted as a group - an idea promoted by the Dems and the media because it serves their purposes. To note that it also serves the purposes of racist bigots, is simply repeating myself.

You replying to the topic or my reply?  Just want to make sure I'm not being labeled as a racist bigot.  My number one complaint is about the servicemen that were DENIED a vote.  It has become too darned easy for this administration to cancel out anyone or anything that might hinder their agenda.   This stuff of not being able to get the ballots to the right places and the voting done and sent back on time is ageless.  My husband's last active duty was in 1992 and it was going on then too.  This lack of being able to vote in major elections happened to him 4 times in all in his twenty years of service.  Nothing is being done ahead of voting time to resolve this issue and it just keeps going on.  On the other hand, the south gets major attention by asking for ID to be able to vote.   The resolution for ID didn't get passed soon enough for the new law to be valid for this voting.  Guess what?  The next election will see just as much skepticism as this one because the new law still has that loophole of a person just not able enough to get a damned picture taken for voting purposes.  This is, for the most part, a big ole' stinking lie.  For the record, I didn't say anything about blacks or hispanics or any other label someone might be wearing.  My concern is for the people in my state, as mixed up and crazy as it is, we're all in the same boat.  My major concern is that NOONE who wants to vote isn't denied.  More than anything I want a true vote.
On another voting issue, and I may be able to pull up the interview from archives, i'll try anyway, we had a mayor up for re-election in one of our smaller cities not too long ago.  There were alot of complaints about this mayor from the early part of her term as mayor and it raised alot of questions for alot of our viewing area of local news, so an extension of the tv news broadcast called "on Your Side" tried to interview her about some of the allegations and she made a mockery of the whole incident.  She's been relieved of her term, a new mayor has been installed and the former mayor was brought up on criminal charges-some of it was hiding votes in her office. 
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: sn00ze on December 17, 2012, 08:04:11 AM
Non Party affiliations and Libertarians can account for those numbers.  Myself I have a different slant on voting, I'm pushing 65 and know first hand what has happened to our cities due to the politicians allowing so many illegals in.  No one seems to care how much damage it did to the election process and you can bet it was by design.  All you have to do is look at the numbers for the answer.  I could go on and on about how the entire face of my home town "Houston" changed in a very short 30 years, but I won't since so many people are so sensitive.  It really hasn't anything to do with disliking or downing another race, it is all about balance and following the laws.  I find it laughable when I switch on the TV and listen to what these hypocrites are saying in Washington.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: TowardLiberty on December 17, 2012, 08:09:25 AM
Quote from: sn00ze on December 17, 2012, 08:04:11 AM
Non Party affiliations and Libertarians can account for those numbers.  Myself I have a different slant on voting, I'm pushing 65 and know first hand what has happened to our cities due to the politicians allowing so many illegals in.  No one seems to care how much damage it did to the election process and you can bet it was by design.  All you have to do is look at the numbers for the answer.  I could go on and on about how the entire face of my home town "Houston" changed in a very short 30 years, but I won't since so many people are so sensitive.  It really hasn't anything to do with disliking or downing another race, it is all about balance and following the laws.  I find it laughable when I switch on the TV and listen to what these hypocrites are saying in Washington.   :rolleyes:

Hey fellow Houstonian.


Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: TowardLiberty on December 17, 2012, 08:09:56 AM
Quote from: walkstall on December 17, 2012, 08:03:36 AM
Thank TL, I was being nice with the 43%.   :popcorn:

No problem. I am always down to help out!
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: mdgiles on December 17, 2012, 08:13:04 AM
Quote from: keyboarder on December 17, 2012, 08:04:09 AM
You replying to the topic or my reply?  Just want to make sure I'm not being labeled as a racist bigot.  My number one complaint is about the servicemen that were DENIED a vote.  It has become too darned easy for this administration to cancel out anyone or anything that might hinder their agenda.   This stuff of not being able to get the ballots to the right places and the voting done and sent back on time is ageless.  My husband's last active duty was in 1992 and it was going on then too.  This lack of being able to vote in major elections happened to him 4 times in all in his twenty years of service.  Nothing is being done ahead of voting time to resolve this issue and it just keeps going on.  On the other hand, the south gets major attention by asking for ID to be able to vote.   The resolution for ID didn't get passed soon enough for the new law to be valid for this voting.  Guess what?  The next election will see just as much skepticism as this one because the new law still has that loophole of a person just not able enough to get a damned picture taken for voting purposes.  This is, for the most part, a big ole' stinking lie.  For the record, I didn't say anything about blacks or hispanics or any other label someone might be wearing.  My concern is for the people in my state, as mixed up and crazy as it is, we're all in the same boat.  My major concern is that NOONE who wants to vote isn't denied.  More than anything I want a true vote.
On another voting issue, and I may be able to pull up the interview from archives, i'll try anyway, we had a mayor up for re-election in one of our smaller cities not too long ago.  There were alot of complaints about this mayor from the early part of her term as mayor and it raised alot of questions for alot of our viewing area of local news, so an extension of the tv news broadcast called "on Your Side" tried to interview her about some of the allegations and she made a mockery of the whole incident.  She's been relieved of her term, a new mayor has been installed and the former mayor was brought up on criminal charges-some of it was hiding votes in her office.
Not you.
QuoteHowever, even the idea of black or Hispanic votes, is based upon the idea that both ethnic groups voted as a group - an idea promoted by the Dems and the media because it serves their purposes. To note that it also serves the purposes of racist bigots, is simply repeating myself.
Actually I was referring to the Dems and the media.
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: keyboarder on December 17, 2012, 10:37:55 AM
Quote from: mdgiles on December 17, 2012, 08:13:04 AM
Not you.Actually I was referring to the Dems and the media.

OK, got 'cha.  Nevertheless, here is a video of some of the stuff we've been dealing with in SC.  This was two people, not just the mayor.  There were numerous allegations ranging from questionable votes and hiring undocumented workers, also misuse of taxpayer monies.  Note in this rediculous intervew that the mayor was railing about worker's comp. monies being unnecessary expenditures for the citizen's tax money.  Yeah right, we found out why the taxpayers weren't getting enough money in her office to get their jobs done.  The police chief under the mayor was arrested as well.  There are other clips along with this one that you can click on that tells most of the story.  How some people get elected to public office is beyond me.  How do they keep their base side hidden from view until they take an office?  I submit that their past comes with them.
Mayor Sallie Peake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLJ8bP5a0_8#)
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: Solar on December 17, 2012, 10:38:55 AM
Quote from: TowardLiberty on December 17, 2012, 07:56:48 AM
The number is even higher than that.

More and more people are seeing the political process for what it is... and saying to it, "check please."

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdailyreckoning.com%2Fwp-content%2Fblogs.dir%2F5%2Ffiles%2F2012%2F12%2FDRUS12-14-12-4.png&hash=b7190f84794eb49c44b29c92e517904a13b82a5f)


http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/bowman-joel7.1.1.html (http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/bowman-joel7.1.1.html)
Fascinating, I would love to see those numbers compared to the 80s.
Which is why I posted this, it was his point about Romney would have won if the populace had not changed since the 80s.
I think much of it can be blamed on a open borders policy.
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: keyboarder on December 17, 2012, 10:50:19 AM
Yep Solar, you've got this right.  Plus, leave out some that might hinder the agenda to get elected.
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: mdgiles on December 17, 2012, 11:49:46 AM
Quote from: keyboarder on December 17, 2012, 10:37:55 AM
OK, got 'cha.  Nevertheless, here is a video of some of the stuff we've been dealing with in SC.  This was two people, not just the mayor.  There were numerous allegations ranging from questionable votes and hiring undocumented workers, also misuse of taxpayer monies.  Note in this ridiculous interview that the mayor was railing about worker's comp. monies being unnecessary expenditures for the citizen's tax money.  Yeah right, we found out why the taxpayers weren't getting enough money in her office to get their jobs done.  The police chief under the mayor was arrested as well.  There are other clips along with this one that you can click on that tells most of the story.  How some people get elected to public office is beyond me.  How do they keep their base side hidden from view until they take an office?  I submit that their past comes with them.
Mayor Sallie Peake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLJ8bP5a0_8#)
So. Which political party does she belong to?
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: keyboarder on December 17, 2012, 11:44:42 PM
Democratic Party, unless she's changed. 
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: mdgiles on December 18, 2012, 05:55:07 AM
Quote from: keyboarder on December 17, 2012, 11:44:42 PM
Democratic Party, unless she's changed.
I rest my case. Not having the brains that GOD gave a bag of hammers, is one of the prerequisites for membership in the Democraptic party!  :huh:
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: Darth Fife on December 18, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
Quote from: mdgiles on December 17, 2012, 07:28:22 AM
Here's an idea. Stop blaming Romney's loss on the black vote - 13% of the population, and a far smaller percentage of the voting public - and Hispanics - 8% of the Population and again a smaller percentage of the voting public (blacks voters and Hispanic voters - for a number of reasons - are no where near their population figures). If you want to blame someone, blame SINGLE WHITE FEMALES. I realize it's easier to blame Obozo on blacks and Hispanics - rather than your girlfriend or your daughter - because you want to remain in their good graces. However, even the idea of black or Hispanic votes, is based upon the idea that both ethnic groups voted as a group - an idea promoted by the Dems and the media because it serves their purposes. To note that it also serves the purposes of racist bigots, is simply repeating myself.

When Giles is right, he is right!

Blacks didn't put Obama back in the White House, whites did!

Just like last time it was white Republicans who either didn't vote, or voted for Obama so they could prove to their country club friends that they weren't "racist" put Obama over the top.

And, of course, Romney's white Republican advisers who told him not to go "negative" on Obama. Romney surrounded himself with the same campaign team and the same advisers that McCain had during his 2004 campaign, so the outcome, really, should not have surprised anyone.


Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: Solar on December 18, 2012, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 18, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
When Giles is right, he is right!

Blacks didn't put Obama back in the White House, whites did!

Just like last time it was white Republicans who either didn't vote, or voted for Obama so they could prove to their country club friends that they weren't "racist" put Obama over the top.

And, of course, Romney's white Republican advisers who told him not to go "negative" on Obama. Romney surrounded himself with the same campaign team and the same advisers that McCain had during his 2004 campaign, so the outcome, really, should not have surprised anyone.
Carl Rove had his prints all over the mess, just like a murder scene.
I blame him for this massacre.
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: Darth Fife on December 18, 2012, 08:54:20 PM
Quote from: Solar on December 18, 2012, 06:44:26 PM
Carl Rove had his prints all over the mess, just like a murder scene.
I blame him for this massacre.

Even Inspector Clouseau could identify those fingerprints!

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboston.com%2Fcommunity%2Fblogs%2Frock_the_schoolhouse%2FPeter_Sellers.jpg&hash=ee8c44a214fa6f0dfcfda1b54bd9805850ed03cb)
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: Solar on December 19, 2012, 06:29:26 AM
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 18, 2012, 08:54:20 PM
Even Inspector Clouseau could identify those fingerprints!

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As evidenced by the brown ring around Boehnors nose has a remarkable resemblance to Roves ass ring.

We need to get Rove out of the GOP first, the unelected leach is sucking the life blood from the party.
One would think he was a liberal plant with the orders to bring the  party down from within.
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: mdgiles on December 19, 2012, 06:50:02 AM
Quote from: Solar on December 19, 2012, 06:29:26 AM
As evidenced by the brown ring around Boehnors nose has a remarkable resemblance to Roves ass ring.

We need to get Rove out of the GOP first, the unelected leach is sucking the life blood from the party.
One would think he was a liberal plant with the orders to bring the  party down from within.
No. He's just another one of those types who loves seeing their name in the media - for whatever reason - good, bad or indifferent. Watch him puff up like a bullfrog anytime they put a microphone in front of his mug.

BTW, I don't believe Obama won, I believe he cheated!
We have crowds of thousands coming out to see Romney/Ryan speak, often in the cold, rain and when they had to wait for hours. Yet we have the media telling us they couldn't be bothered to get out and vote?  :huh:
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: Solar on December 19, 2012, 07:04:21 AM
Quote from: mdgiles on December 19, 2012, 06:50:02 AM
No. He's just another one of those types who loves seeing their name in the media - for whatever reason - good, bad or indifferent. Watch him puff up like a bullfrog anytime they put a microphone in front of his mug.

BTW, I don't believe Obama won, I believe he cheated!
We have crowds of thousands coming out to see Romney/Ryan speak, often in the cold, rain and when they had to wait for hours. Yet we have the media telling us they couldn't be bothered to get out and vote?  :huh:
I agree Husein cheated, but don't discount incompetence heaped on by Rove.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/09/karl-rove-gop-craig-unger (http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/09/karl-rove-gop-craig-unger)
Title: Re: A Lot Of Truth In What He Says
Post by: mdgiles on December 19, 2012, 07:22:21 AM
Quote from: Solar on December 19, 2012, 07:04:21 AM
I agree Husein cheated, but don't discount incompetence heaped on by Rove.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/09/karl-rove-gop-craig-unger (http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/09/karl-rove-gop-craig-unger)
I think the left is pushing the meme that it was all about internal GOP politics fault to put us at each other's throat, and to keep us from raising an uproar about the vote. Remember when CBS accidentally scrolled the election outcome...............weeks before the election!  :huh: